as a french, working in aftermarket parts sales (and even sometime in OEM parts) i can tell you why you had the wrong part: for ALL renaults from around 97 to 2005, you had 2 different strengh in parts for many "same" parts. that goes especially for your front arms, you have 2 screws holding your joint, and those screws can be 10 or 12 in size, but even with your vin number nothing tells you which one you have. so most aftermarket parts were designed for the "stronger part" so you find only the size 12, but since people always want cheaper parts, some manifacturers found it quite fun to also make the "weak" part again as it is cheaper. so instead of eradicating "weak" parts over the years, by selling only the strong one, we now still have a fight between both, with no way of knowing which one is installed. it may also be that your axle bearing was the correct one, but that the axle itself was allready changed once to a "weak" one, either new or from a scrapyard. so sadly for us (as a former french mecanic, and salesman) the usual procedure is to order both, mount the one that fits, and return the other one back for refund
@@FVBmovies cant tell you exactly, i know they updated their factory systems around that time, to be more precize on whats actually going on with your vin, but i dont have an exact year and dont have the details about that
twingo's are funky, and i love them for that absurdity. you lot have such odd engineering and drugs where clearly involved. here's to our rivalry continuing forever more. huzzar!
@@Zakis_wonderful_world you can put a tube on the cv joint so you can hammer it back on. Sometimes it's just about the spare being different in fitting, there are some that enter by hand. You can also try to heat the parts and let it cool for dissasembly for it may have adhesive (loctite), or heat the part on the exterior and cool the shaft for assembly.
Well, the OG Twingo will probably soon become a cult classic youngtimer in Europe, a bit like the original Morris Mini or the original Fiat 500. The later generations of Twingo are certainly better on a technical standpoint but they are soulless, unlike this little frog nugget.
these tripod joints were very common in many many french projects, and also other european cars back from the 70s until 90s. Even the mk7 Honda Civic uses it with the 1.7 petrol automatic. there are proper tools to get them out with ease (look for 'trizeta' in portuguese for hundreds of brazilian changing tutorials 😆). Well, great job maintaining these little guys, always a joy to see them. kudos from brazil!
The tripod joints are called homocinétic joints and they have advantages over the universal joint when use on FWD as the half axel's travels inside the tripod joint , adapting to the suspension travel and also the wheel hub rotation when steering ,and toe . The universal joint must have splintered Axel's to accommodate movement , but this technology is limited by its size , so the angle of use is more limited .
My 98' Saab 9-5 has them. they outlast 2 or 3 rubber boots if of course cleaned and lubed each change of boot. Gear oil is sealed on stub axle with joint outer case which needle roller beared wheels then goes in to with rubber booh between case and driveshaft. They did it right.
My Tesla Model S RWD has those trippody joints and despite the enormous torque of the motor they seem to last forever. CV joints are a different ball game when it comes to service life.
Heya, Frenchie here, it's kinda weird to see people enjoying their Twingo. Nowdays it's more of the car for the learner that don't want to worry too much when he has an accident. But still, kinda nice to see people enjoying the little things of life :]
You guys really shouldn't work around spinning tools like lathes or angle grinders with floppy gloves like that. It's gonna suck in your hand in no time if the gloves get caught. Loving the Twingo content though! Stay safe
As a former shop teacher I couldn't agree more. Gloves of any kind except thin nitril/latex ones are a definitely NO. The reason? What likely would cause a small wound instead grabs the glove and pulls the whole hand and perhaps more in causing serious injury.
and what injures they are. They're not those cool get you laid at the bar once they heal kinda injures. They're the kinda injuries children gawk in fear at when they see you at the grocery store.
This! i learned my own lesson tighening a drill bit with a rubber glove. It snatched the glove and sprained my thumb really badly. If it was a lathe I would have lost my hand.
@@EmployeeJoe630 I was repairing a septic tank, had to wear gloves. Grinder (that luckily was powered down, just coasting to a stop from inertia of the grinder wheel) slipped on poo water and decided that my pointer finger was an afront to its existence (i always knew Makita had it in for me). Had i not had the gloves on, it would've nicked me. Having the gloves on, the thing spun, grabbed the heavier duty rubber of a sleeved glove and decided to grind a divot in my finger which left, to this day a huge scar from nail to knuckle. So yes, even when you should wear gloves, those things are dangerous enough to frak you up royally and i've the poo grind to prove it.
I'm french. It's the first car I bought with my own money. Brand new. With AC ! (2001) I just loved this car. I went to have a better job, meet my wife and got to get rid of it (the twingo). It took me two years to ger rid of it though we had no use of it anymore.... I could not say goodbye to my green frog. I used it on the snow. It was so incredible to drive on the snow. I was going to the golf club with it too. The golf bag fitted into the trunk perfectly ! It was so stylish to park it near big german cars !
This axle solution is not unusual, it's like this in many older VW models as well. The difference is that the needle bearing thing goes into a cup first and that slides into the gearbox.
Great video and thank for taking me back. 2005 Clio 2 1.4 owner here (got it in '14), I definitely share the sense of being trolled by Renault engineers as I've had a number of baffling issues with it. The worst one was the cam shaft pulleys: they had some kind of thin metal ring spot welded onto them to keep the timing belt in place. For some reason (I suspect a previous garage damaged them while replacing the timing belt, I hadn't replaced it myself up until then), the rings came off one day and got twisted and mangled up between the pulleys for the water pump and crankshaft. The sound that made I can only describe as "engine dying". I ended up replacing the pulleys with ones from a 1.6 engine, as they didn't have those stupid spot welded metal rings, but proper single piece parts. They didn't sit on splines either, just a bare shaft (so to speak, lol) so it was a bit of a pain to get them aligned properly, but it worked out. Now i suspect I have a dodgy CV joint, but it is in the side of thr transmission, so I hope I don't need to mess with that spinny thing as I definitely have that as well... Anyway. Keep up the good content 👍
Those damn Frenchs. I think the "three wheels on needle bearings" are called "driveshaft tripods" iirc, I had the same driveshafts on my old Renault Super 5. If you are odd enough you can even remove them one by one, clean the needles, grease them again and reassemble. Since everything in these driveshaft is touchy we took the habit of simply replacing those entirely here, only weird people (me) or poor people (also me) repair them part by part. Good job on taking care of this leak, by owning a Renault Twingo/Super 5/21/11/Fuego etc (Basically all Renaults from the 80s 90s) you will master the art of plumbing more than mechanics, bruh.
I was going to mention since I didn’t hear it in the video, but yes these are called tripod joints. They are continuous velocity just like normal CV joints and not uncommon to see on both inboard and outboard sides of the driveshaft on some race cars. You can find commercially available motorsports-specific examples of these as Formula Student parts.
I recall a friend of mine back in highschool spent a good amount of time tuning one, it was cute from the outside but a beast on the road. Super fun to see them get love and attention
The thing you call a cv-joint is a Rzeppa joint. As you said, both types are cv (constant velocity) joints while one of them are named Rzeppa joint and the other is a tripod joint.
Guys....all you had to do was.....buy a complete driveshaft. That's all you had to do. Anyway, you two are such a nice couple that I'll turn a blind eye to this mistake.
Growing up my family always had two cars. One was always a twingo grin. And the other was always a vw t4 van. I kid you not when I say that most things transportable with the vw was transportable with the twingo aswell. That thing is breaking the laws of physics. Incredible cars.
Have to say awesome music selection. I have owned renault clio 1.2 8v and its such a fun nugget🤣 Low fuel consumption and the parts are practically free. The space in engine compartment makes it also pretty easy to fix it, but I do agree it has its quirks🤣
When you said that this car did something different from everyone else for something that already worked fine, I sighed in exhaustion. I don't like dealing with unnecessary weirdo stuff.
When I need to change that rubber boot from Renaults, I always cut the old, and then squeeze the new boot without dissasembling that roller thing 😂😂😂 its waaaay more easier Greetings from Brazil, here we have a lot of these quirky frenchies
okay bro I just gotta say that the bearing from the beginning I saw was the same one that probably fell out of my bro's Clio, thankfully watching this video I realized its my bro's car part, he thought it fell out of a tractor
I am amazed that French cars look symmetric outside, cause on the insides they're full of surprises. Also interesting to see that French people here don't get that idea, just that they like the Twingo 😂...
I just gave up on a MK1 PH3 1.4 Clio that won't start no matter what, after seeing different mechanics, swapping pieces and ECU, removing the immobilizer etc etc... Something in the electric system seemed to be really fucked up but nobody could spot the fault and all test and engine were okay. She won't start and I am really sad about it, so I am wrecking that poor green nugget. French cars like this usually are immortal but [insert whatever divinity of you liking here] forbid to deal with their age little issues on electronics and (sometimes) very difficult to find pieces like the right AC resistor. Or the leakings from the rotten seal of the roof antenna that ruins the service lights or, to locate the right engine codes between thousands of variants, with or without electronic injection or whether or not they use stone-age distributor or an actual coil-pack. But can legitimately resist the fancy design for the front and their zippy-looking body designs. Its something that most modern cars miss along with simple dashboard instrumentation. Leakings from CV joints and leaking transmission sealing are a factory default and there was never a recall for any of them. Funny enough their engines usually never had leaking problems.
Oh boy, I need to take my Twingo to the car shop to deal with the transmission and deal with the side drive shaft too. Thanks for showing up how to do the maintenance, it is rare to find good video material to understand how to maintan a Twingo Cheers from Brazil
I've had this problem on my R19 1.4i. After having the sealing changed 3 times by mechanics i decided to change the whole driveshaft by myself, also because it vibrated a little. I bough a brand new SKF driveshaft and put it in and by the moment (1 or years and at least 30'000km) it seems i solved my problem!
Oh yeah that brings back memories. Memories of changing the drive shafts on a Mk1 Kangoo, taking one look at that weird boot thing on the left shaft and thinking "Err what? Where's the rest of it?"
As a kid, I helped my father work on his Peugeot 504...I learned a lot of cuss words too. Don't you just LOVE working on French cars? The 2-hour job on a Toyota, Ford or even a Mercedes is a two-day job on a French car.
I agree. I even switched the two pot joints of my front axle to tripod type CVs. More axial movement. More max angle. They’re actually way better than common alternatives. Easy to maintain and repair. But the rubber boot is indeed weird. It’s the same on my fathers Renault Kangoo. I changed the driveshafts there too. And you also have to drain the transmission here.
Hi, here in south america we've got a lot of those renault with the same boot system, what we usually do when we find a stubborn triple thingy is to literally tape the rollers with electrical tape so they don't come apart and hit it with a hammer and a chisel in the middle part, or even better, an air hammer. Makes it way faster to do, and the splines are hard enough so you don't really have to take too much care to not hit them. Awesome vid, I'd love to work on more twingos but sadly they're missing from the streets, I've seen this system in the Megane and Clio, can't remember if there's other cars that use it also,
twingo is so good becoz it have the same engine as the clio but with a much smaller and lighter chassis , so its really overpowered for the chassis , its great car
My first car was a Twingo, but in that (ugly) greenish/yellow color I think anis it was called. The car still holds a very special place in my heart. A perfect beginners car imho!
I have a Twingo that's in our family for over 12 years now. I even raced it on Trackdays!! Lots of mods of course but even today my AC still works! And the "odd transmission axle" it's not big deal. I'm from Argentina but our Twingo is 100 % made in France and we are very French Cars enthusiasts. Having lots of great Citroens as well. Cher's from Argentina! Always happy to see a Twingo!
My mother had a Renault 5 from new, she bought it with the money she got when she got laid off from work. In 2 years she had done less than 9000 miles when the engine failed, the block actually cracked, from what can only be assumed a casting fault. My old man was a mechanic so the car had been well looked after. Renault just laughed at her when she asked them for some help. In the end she took them to court and got a new engine off them FOC, but she had to pay to get it fitted.
it's Renault...for many years they added what looked like a small gearboxe onto the gearboxe to contain...the fifth gear (they did that from the 70's to the early 2000's). I'm pretty sure it's the case on this Twingo Renault did strange things like a talking car in the 80's (the Renault 25 was equipped in option with a synthetic voice telling you things happening in the car like : the front right door is open, or : the lights are on) Renault does....strange things (sometimes it works but sometimes it fail) it's the case with this CV joint (why do they do that? nobody knows)
There's a company in France that buys up old 1st generation Twingos like this one and completely refurbishes them with electrical motors and old-school (no rare metals) batteries. Might be my next car.
@@Zakis_wonderful_world The company's called Lormauto. You'll have to translate their site though, it's only in French. There are a few videos on youtube presenting them (but also in French).
That joint isn't actually a constant velocity joint. They're only constant velocity when used in a pair with mirrored angles. Strange, but that's why you sometimes see weird joint setups on axles and driveshafts.
I used to work in a parts retailer and none of the the french cars could be sold parts for reliably with just a vin. You always wanted to see the old part because they built them with so many different parts. So Im not at all surprised you got the wrong bearing.
I'm pretty sure both of those are types of CV joints, but the one on the driver's side uses the bearing type so that you can pull it apart. My Jeep Liberty had the bearing type for the front driveshafts.
They use the same system on vans Peugeot j5 , boxer fist Ducati etc..the outer side and inner side are simply packed with grease it's a a very easy system originally . Here it seems they inserted it in gear box due to lack of room .a low cost adaptation . A small leak is normal on old French cars sometimes using a thicker oil and a leak additive works a treat . Those little cars are cheaply built to remain competitive if you like perfection Germans and Japanese are more suited
That non cv axel is the inner workings of a cv axel without the end bit i have had to pop those back into place on many hondas reminds me i need to rebuild my cv axles on my 1980 honda at some point both boots are dry rotten
5:34 this happens sometimes and it's the worst feeling ever. A ton of work, minor improvement, but not finished, because of some faulty part and you're going to have to do the same ton of work again.
I did this job on my clio, 6 months ago. Had the wrong bearing too lol. Usually just buy a new shaft but to save a bit. Had a mk1 clio1.8 RSi for 22 years. Buy an F4R for the Twingo 🖖👀👍
Was thinking of buying the complete shaft but it was more of an adventure to do it this way. For the engine swap I'm more leaning towards a potential K4M or a D4FT, cause you can get them pretty cheap. Though I've seen a guy in Slovenia put the F4R in a Twingo and it was crazy.
Here's a simple trick: Buy a complete driveshaft. It contains new bearings and seals for the inner and outer side and it is much cheaper in the end [and it's ready to build in].
I live in the USA, where Renault left in the 1980s. When Nissan bought Renault, I wondered if the Versa and Sentra were going to be some kind of Renault. It looks like they did not end up being Renaults. The Nissan CVT is a joke, but at least it doesn't have this stupid inner CV joint.
''there's still problems that need fixing''
as a french i'm proud you understood how french cars works in 1 sentence 👍👍
as a french, working in aftermarket parts sales (and even sometime in OEM parts) i can tell you why you had the wrong part:
for ALL renaults from around 97 to 2005, you had 2 different strengh in parts for many "same" parts. that goes especially for your front arms, you have 2 screws holding your joint, and those screws can be 10 or 12 in size, but even with your vin number nothing tells you which one you have. so most aftermarket parts were designed for the "stronger part" so you find only the size 12, but since people always want cheaper parts, some manifacturers found it quite fun to also make the "weak" part again as it is cheaper.
so instead of eradicating "weak" parts over the years, by selling only the strong one, we now still have a fight between both, with no way of knowing which one is installed. it may also be that your axle bearing was the correct one, but that the axle itself was allready changed once to a "weak" one, either new or from a scrapyard.
so sadly for us (as a former french mecanic, and salesman) the usual procedure is to order both, mount the one that fits, and return the other one back for refund
Ahhh I see, thanks for the insight.
Is this same you cannot know which wiring harness your car has unless you open the interior and take a look? :D
Je retiens pour quand j'aurai une voiture
Renault wasn't on my top 3, still have to ask, does the same applies for post-2005 Renaults'?
@@FVBmovies cant tell you exactly, i know they updated their factory systems around that time, to be more precize on whats actually going on with your vin, but i dont have an exact year and dont have the details about that
as a french man, seeing a twingo makes me happy
pourquoi on n ai la XD mais cool video
@@julesroumieux5417 jsp mec
twingo's are funky, and i love them for that absurdity. you lot have such odd engineering and drugs where clearly involved.
here's to our rivalry continuing forever more. huzzar!
pareil
@@osmacar5331 😂🤣
As a Renault technician, I just hit the bearings with a hammer to slide those out of the shaft. Takes me 1 or 2 minutes.
Renault, Passion for Life
I see, thanks for the tip. How do you put the new one on?
@@Zakis_wonderful_world you can put a tube on the cv joint so you can hammer it back on. Sometimes it's just about the spare being different in fitting, there are some that enter by hand. You can also try to heat the parts and let it cool for dissasembly for it may have adhesive (loctite), or heat the part on the exterior and cool the shaft for assembly.
@@sgalvan-urdyhm or you can heat them abit if it is tight, and even leave the axle out in the col first.
use a baguette, it will be more efficient, and as a bonus you'll have your lunch ready once you finish.
Its amazing seeing people maintain odd cars like the twingo in good condition, best regards from north carolina!
>good condition
>rusty struts
In europe the were actally pretty common
Well, the OG Twingo will probably soon become a cult classic youngtimer in Europe, a bit like the original Morris Mini or the original Fiat 500. The later generations of Twingo are certainly better on a technical standpoint but they are soulless, unlike this little frog nugget.
Not an odd car it's a regular car daily used by millions of people where it's been conceived 😂
@@chucku00 last generation of twingo is quite fun to drive actually, but don't go for the weakest engine
when the repair starts off with snap ring flying to another dimension, you know its gonna be a fun project😃
We call them circlips
Commonly known as a 'pingfuckit'
French here, not so many twingos left on the roads but always a pleasure to see one, very funy little car
Je sais pas ou tu vit mais sache qu'en Bretagne on en croise encore a tout les coins de rue
There's a shit load of Twingo's still going about the streets of Argentina lol
@@AguaraGuazu98 what what ? How 😂
@@skyzey9296 Je suis en Bretagne (56) et non des Twingo 1 comme dans la vidéo y en a plus tant que ça
Quite a lot of first-gen twingos over here, strange
these tripod joints were very common in many many french projects, and also other european cars back from the 70s until 90s. Even the mk7 Honda Civic uses it with the 1.7 petrol automatic. there are proper tools to get them out with ease (look for 'trizeta' in portuguese for hundreds of brazilian changing tutorials 😆). Well, great job maintaining these little guys, always a joy to see them. kudos from brazil!
Yes, but they didn't use a sealing bearing on them 😂...
Salve mano
The tripod joints are called homocinétic joints and they have advantages over the universal joint when use on FWD as the half axel's travels inside the tripod joint , adapting to the suspension travel and also the wheel hub rotation when steering ,and toe . The universal joint must have splintered Axel's to accommodate movement , but this technology is limited by its size , so the angle of use is more limited .
My 98' Saab 9-5 has them. they outlast 2 or 3 rubber boots if of course cleaned and lubed each change of boot. Gear oil is sealed on stub axle with joint outer case which needle roller beared wheels then goes in to with rubber booh between case and driveshaft. They did it right.
My Tesla Model S RWD has those trippody joints and despite the enormous torque of the motor they seem to last forever. CV joints are a different ball game when it comes to service life.
Heya, Frenchie here, it's kinda weird to see people enjoying their Twingo. Nowdays it's more of the car for the learner that don't want to worry too much when he has an accident. But still, kinda nice to see people enjoying the little things of life :]
They should worry a lot about having an accident in a can of sardines;)
@@bvcvcc1289 I meant it in the way that it's easy to repair and cheap, you don't fret over costs in these things.
You guys really shouldn't work around spinning tools like lathes or angle grinders with floppy gloves like that. It's gonna suck in your hand in no time if the gloves get caught.
Loving the Twingo content though! Stay safe
As a former shop teacher I couldn't agree more. Gloves of any kind except thin nitril/latex ones are a definitely NO.
The reason? What likely would cause a small wound instead grabs the glove and pulls the whole hand and perhaps more in causing serious injury.
and what injures they are. They're not those cool get you laid at the bar once they heal kinda injures. They're the kinda injuries children gawk in fear at when they see you at the grocery store.
This! i learned my own lesson tighening a drill bit with a rubber glove. It snatched the glove and sprained my thumb really badly. If it was a lathe I would have lost my hand.
@@EmployeeJoe630 I was repairing a septic tank, had to wear gloves. Grinder (that luckily was powered down, just coasting to a stop from inertia of the grinder wheel) slipped on poo water and decided that my pointer finger was an afront to its existence (i always knew Makita had it in for me). Had i not had the gloves on, it would've nicked me. Having the gloves on, the thing spun, grabbed the heavier duty rubber of a sleeved glove and decided to grind a divot in my finger which left, to this day a huge scar from nail to knuckle.
So yes, even when you should wear gloves, those things are dangerous enough to frak you up royally and i've the poo grind to prove it.
ling's magic shirt removing machine
giving more attention to a pair of twingos than some people do for their sport/expensive cars
I'm french. It's the first car I bought with my own money. Brand new. With AC ! (2001) I just loved this car. I went to have a better job, meet my wife and got to get rid of it (the twingo). It took me two years to ger rid of it though we had no use of it anymore.... I could not say goodbye to my green frog. I used it on the snow. It was so incredible to drive on the snow. I was going to the golf club with it too. The golf bag fitted into the trunk perfectly ! It was so stylish to park it near big german cars !
You have taken even more care with the twingos than my grandma with shes flowers
twingos must be protected at all costs
This axle solution is not unusual, it's like this in many older VW models as well. The difference is that the needle bearing thing goes into a cup first and that slides into the gearbox.
I have it on my Fiat Multipla 2002 too.
Yep and most FWD fords. It's probably more common than FWD having full CV joints.
Great video and thank for taking me back. 2005 Clio 2 1.4 owner here (got it in '14), I definitely share the sense of being trolled by Renault engineers as I've had a number of baffling issues with it. The worst one was the cam shaft pulleys: they had some kind of thin metal ring spot welded onto them to keep the timing belt in place. For some reason (I suspect a previous garage damaged them while replacing the timing belt, I hadn't replaced it myself up until then), the rings came off one day and got twisted and mangled up between the pulleys for the water pump and crankshaft. The sound that made I can only describe as "engine dying". I ended up replacing the pulleys with ones from a 1.6 engine, as they didn't have those stupid spot welded metal rings, but proper single piece parts. They didn't sit on splines either, just a bare shaft (so to speak, lol) so it was a bit of a pain to get them aligned properly, but it worked out. Now i suspect I have a dodgy CV joint, but it is in the side of thr transmission, so I hope I don't need to mess with that spinny thing as I definitely have that as well... Anyway. Keep up the good content 👍
As someone that works in assembly, I felt that snap-ring clip.
Great video, guys! 👍
Those damn Frenchs. I think the "three wheels on needle bearings" are called "driveshaft tripods" iirc, I had the same driveshafts on my old Renault Super 5. If you are odd enough you can even remove them one by one, clean the needles, grease them again and reassemble. Since everything in these driveshaft is touchy we took the habit of simply replacing those entirely here, only weird people (me) or poor people (also me) repair them part by part. Good job on taking care of this leak, by owning a Renault Twingo/Super 5/21/11/Fuego etc (Basically all Renaults from the 80s 90s) you will master the art of plumbing more than mechanics, bruh.
I was going to mention since I didn’t hear it in the video, but yes these are called tripod joints. They are continuous velocity just like normal CV joints and not uncommon to see on both inboard and outboard sides of the driveshaft on some race cars. You can find commercially available motorsports-specific examples of these as Formula Student parts.
@@RyanWu_ Oooh I see, thanks a lot for the explanations friend ! ✌
Gloves, bench grinders, and lathes are a recipe for appendage removal.
I recall a friend of mine back in highschool spent a good amount of time tuning one, it was cute from the outside but a beast on the road. Super fun to see them get love and attention
The thing you call a cv-joint is a Rzeppa joint. As you said, both types are cv (constant velocity) joints while one of them are named Rzeppa joint and the other is a tripod joint.
I remember the ancient saying about French arms, "the French copy no one, and no one copies the French".
hahahaaha
Congratulations on becoming a certified Renault mechanic
As a two-time Peugeot 406 owner, the video's title relates with me on an extradimensional level
"always put a rag over every snapring." It's the ones you don't expect that getcha.
GENUS (pure)
Guys....all you had to do was.....buy a complete driveshaft. That's all you had to do. Anyway, you two are such a nice couple that I'll turn a blind eye to this mistake.
Growing up my family always had two cars. One was always a twingo grin. And the other was always a vw t4 van. I kid you not when I say that most things transportable with the vw was transportable with the twingo aswell. That thing is breaking the laws of physics. Incredible cars.
"pranked by the french" has the be the most enticing title i have ever seen on this site, and its meme car content aswell, tailormade for me
Have to say awesome music selection. I have owned renault clio 1.2 8v and its such a fun nugget🤣 Low fuel consumption and the parts are practically free. The space in engine compartment makes it also pretty easy to fix it, but I do agree it has its quirks🤣
Please continue fixing those twingos. they are perfect.
It makes me so happy that people like to see this stuff.
Look at how HAPPY the two Twingos look like at the end.
Thank you for keeping these little funny cars alive.
When you said that this car did something different from everyone else for something that already worked fine, I sighed in exhaustion. I don't like dealing with unnecessary weirdo stuff.
love your videos! not even into cars but theyre fun to watch
Thank you! That's the best complement I could get, I am trying to make my videos in a way that even someone who's not into cars would enjoy them.
aww you're doing great then :) i like the premise of funny french car@@Zakis_wonderful_world
Thoses 3 bearing joints are called a Plunge joint, they are designed to permit in/out movement in the drive shaft, something a CV can't do.
I have a clio 1 and I still getting sick each time I smell valvoline... I feel your pain
BEST. CAR. EVER.
(Well, not completely, but it's really surprisingly good)
I started a similar type job on a Nissan, went to buy parts and the parts store suggested purchasing a remanufactured assembly.
Lesson learned
when you remove snap rings, make a hole in a plastic bag with the pliers, it helps catching it if it's flying
I look after a Clio 182, so I recognise some similar challenges. Wish we got the Twingo 1 in the UK, such a quirky car.
When I need to change that rubber boot from Renaults, I always cut the old, and then squeeze the new boot without dissasembling that roller thing 😂😂😂 its waaaay more easier
Greetings from Brazil, here we have a lot of these quirky frenchies
Trabant 601 also had similiar roller thingys on the CV axles. But they worked a little bit diferent
Designs like this are an engineer's wet dream and a technician's nightmare.
Rarely have I seen someone be so kidn to thier twingo. These things are the defacto beater where I am from.
It's like that here too. I have a problem where even if I buy a beater, I always end up fixing it.
okay bro I just gotta say that the bearing from the beginning I saw was the same one that probably fell out of my bro's Clio, thankfully watching this video I realized its my bro's car part, he thought it fell out of a tractor
Kolk pa lep twingo, madona, izjemno ohranjen!
Cool video, ravno prav humoren :)
jooo, če bi vidu prage
I’ve never seen any twingos here in the states but I like them for being little happy cars
"if it's leaking it's working" designer of the twingo 1992, Paris.
I am amazed that French cars look symmetric outside, cause on the insides they're full of surprises. Also interesting to see that French people here don't get that idea, just that they like the Twingo 😂...
I just gave up on a MK1 PH3 1.4 Clio that won't start no matter what, after seeing different mechanics, swapping pieces and ECU, removing the immobilizer etc etc... Something in the electric system seemed to be really fucked up but nobody could spot the fault and all test and engine were okay. She won't start and I am really sad about it, so I am wrecking that poor green nugget. French cars like this usually are immortal but [insert whatever divinity of you liking here] forbid to deal with their age little issues on electronics and (sometimes) very difficult to find pieces like the right AC resistor. Or the leakings from the rotten seal of the roof antenna that ruins the service lights or, to locate the right engine codes between thousands of variants, with or without electronic injection or whether or not they use stone-age distributor or an actual coil-pack. But can legitimately resist the fancy design for the front and their zippy-looking body designs. Its something that most modern cars miss along with simple dashboard instrumentation. Leakings from CV joints and leaking transmission sealing are a factory default and there was never a recall for any of them. Funny enough their engines usually never had leaking problems.
i now want a twingo. thank you for exposing me to the best of the french engineering
These little cars are pretty cool could see a clio 172 or 182 motor fitting in nicely.
Welcome to Renault maintenance, they have their own way of doing stuff
Im from the "oui oui baguette croissant" contry thumbs up for you guys having fun with a great car we happened to created a while back
I love the towing tomfoolery
Oh boy, I need to take my Twingo to the car shop to deal with the transmission and deal with the side drive shaft too.
Thanks for showing up how to do the maintenance, it is rare to find good video material to understand how to maintan a Twingo
Cheers from Brazil
Result! Twingos are superb little cars.
that battery for the Renault looks like it belongs in a power wheels. lol
I've had this problem on my R19 1.4i. After having the sealing changed 3 times by mechanics i decided to change the whole driveshaft by myself, also because it vibrated a little. I bough a brand new SKF driveshaft and put it in and by the moment (1 or years and at least 30'000km) it seems i solved my problem!
I first encountered this on a Kangoo.
One splash of transmission oil all over the shopfloor later i knew, i didn't like renault.
Oh yeah that brings back memories. Memories of changing the drive shafts on a Mk1 Kangoo, taking one look at that weird boot thing on the left shaft and thinking "Err what? Where's the rest of it?"
very enjoyable video! greetings from Lithuania! Love the car 😊
As a kid, I helped my father work on his Peugeot 504...I learned a lot of cuss words too. Don't you just LOVE working on French cars? The 2-hour job on a Toyota, Ford or even a Mercedes is a two-day job on a French car.
I am down for more Twingo tomfoolery.
tripod CV joints are common on nissans , and my suzuki has them on the inner joints. they aren't that weird. The rest of it, however, is very french.
I agree. I even switched the two pot joints of my front axle to tripod type CVs. More axial movement. More max angle.
They’re actually way better than common alternatives. Easy to maintain and repair. But the rubber boot is indeed weird. It’s the same on my fathers Renault Kangoo. I changed the driveshafts there too. And you also have to drain the transmission here.
Hi, here in south america we've got a lot of those renault with the same boot system, what we usually do when we find a stubborn triple thingy is to literally tape the rollers with electrical tape so they don't come apart and hit it with a hammer and a chisel in the middle part, or even better, an air hammer. Makes it way faster to do, and the splines are hard enough so you don't really have to take too much care to not hit them.
Awesome vid, I'd love to work on more twingos but sadly they're missing from the streets, I've seen this system in the Megane and Clio, can't remember if there's other cars that use it also,
Really thankful for the advice, how do you put it back on the axle?
This car look like a happy little frog and I love it
twingo is so good becoz it have the same engine as the clio but with a much smaller and lighter chassis , so its really overpowered for the chassis , its great car
My first car was a Twingo, but in that (ugly) greenish/yellow color I think anis it was called. The car still holds a very special place in my heart. A perfect beginners car imho!
It's the French. Be thankful that your wiring harness has color-coded wires.
I have a Twingo that's in our family for over 12 years now. I even raced it on Trackdays!! Lots of mods of course but even today my AC still works! And the "odd transmission axle" it's not big deal. I'm from Argentina but our Twingo is 100 % made in France and we are very French Cars enthusiasts. Having lots of great Citroens as well. Cher's from Argentina! Always happy to see a Twingo!
The familiar whirr of a renault D4F engine... ya love to see it
Volvo has those tripods as well but they're going into a sort of cup that's part of the axle.
When you work on a needle bearing it's always a good idea to use a cable tie to hold everything in place😊
My mother had a Renault 5 from new, she bought it with the money she got when she got laid off from work. In 2 years she had done less than 9000 miles when the engine failed, the block actually cracked, from what can only be assumed a casting fault. My old man was a mechanic so the car had been well looked after. Renault just laughed at her when she asked them for some help. In the end she took them to court and got a new engine off them FOC, but she had to pay to get it fitted.
We've all had the snap ring (circlip in UK) disappear to who knows where.
Yes! That one is a gearhead classic... ##$%@! :O\
it's Renault...for many years they added what looked like a small gearboxe onto the gearboxe to contain...the fifth gear (they did that from the 70's to the early 2000's). I'm pretty sure it's the case on this Twingo
Renault did strange things like a talking car in the 80's (the Renault 25 was equipped in option with a synthetic voice telling you things happening in the car like : the front right door is open, or : the lights are on)
Renault does....strange things (sometimes it works but sometimes it fail) it's the case with this CV joint (why do they do that? nobody knows)
There's a company in France that buys up old 1st generation Twingos like this one and completely refurbishes them with electrical motors and old-school (no rare metals) batteries. Might be my next car.
Sounds interesting, can you link me their website or something.
@@Zakis_wonderful_world The company's called Lormauto. You'll have to translate their site though, it's only in French. There are a few videos on youtube presenting them (but also in French).
@@Zakis_wonderful_world I think he talks about this project ruclips.net/video/vZ9KeVZL2tA/видео.html
That joint isn't actually a constant velocity joint. They're only constant velocity when used in a pair with mirrored angles. Strange, but that's why you sometimes see weird joint setups on axles and driveshafts.
I used to work in a parts retailer and none of the the french cars could be sold parts for reliably with just a vin. You always wanted to see the old part because they built them with so many different parts. So Im not at all surprised you got the wrong bearing.
Miata and Twingo would look great in a bar, giggling together over can of oil 😊
I'm pretty sure both of those are types of CV joints, but the one on the driver's side uses the bearing type so that you can pull it apart.
My Jeep Liberty had the bearing type for the front driveshafts.
They use the same system on vans Peugeot j5 , boxer fist Ducati etc..the outer side and inner side are simply packed with grease it's a a very easy system originally . Here it seems they inserted it in gear box due to lack of room .a low cost adaptation . A small leak is normal on old French cars sometimes using a thicker oil and a leak additive works a treat . Those little cars are cheaply built to remain competitive if you like perfection Germans and Japanese are more suited
As a french: we do a little bit of trolling :)
had the same leaking transmission fluid with my renault megane mk1, bought a completely new cv axle. Did not want the same cv axle hassle
3:29 gloves while using rotating machine: no no nope
This kind of assembly is what happens when Board rooms & Designers don’t want to collaborate with engineers to make reasonable compromises. 😩
That non cv axel is the inner workings of a cv axel without the end bit i have had to pop those back into place on many hondas reminds me i need to rebuild my cv axles on my 1980 honda at some point both boots are dry rotten
love them twingos.
Fiat did this same thing with the 128. Aaaand that’s why we won the “I got screwed” award at a 24 Hours of Lemons race.
Making a special tooling to catch the tripod is definitely an overkill, you just had to warm it up with a torch…
With a lil simple snap ring, aaaaand it flies off.. Man feels like theyre cursed
sure hope you had your safety squint on when you removed those snap rings xD
I have no idea why I watched this video but I enjoyed it
5:34 this happens sometimes and it's the worst feeling ever. A ton of work, minor improvement, but not finished, because of some faulty part and you're going to have to do the same ton of work again.
I did this job on my clio, 6 months ago. Had the wrong bearing too lol. Usually just buy a new shaft but to save a bit. Had a mk1 clio1.8 RSi for 22 years. Buy an F4R for the Twingo 🖖👀👍
Was thinking of buying the complete shaft but it was more of an adventure to do it this way. For the engine swap I'm more leaning towards a potential K4M or a D4FT, cause you can get them pretty cheap. Though I've seen a guy in Slovenia put the F4R in a Twingo and it was crazy.
@@Zakis_wonderful_world nice👍.
Here's a simple trick: Buy a complete driveshaft. It contains new bearings and seals for the inner and outer side and it is much cheaper in the end [and it's ready to build in].
I live in the USA, where Renault left in the 1980s. When Nissan bought Renault, I wondered if the Versa and Sentra were going to be some kind of Renault. It looks like they did not end up being Renaults.
The Nissan CVT is a joke, but at least it doesn't have this stupid inner CV joint.
My 2007 Alfa Romeo 159 has these Tripods as well on 1 side. I think it's quite common.
Only madman would repair french car