UFC 297 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2024
- Headliners cross paths. Champ Sean Strickland sightsees and sweats; foe Dricus Du Plessis works on numbers. Mayra Bueno Silva arrives in Toronto, as does opponent Raquel Pennington. UFC 297 fight week is underway as the athletes check in and do PR.
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Super excited for this fight.
👍
Super
Amazing and super I like the vlog series nice this video
Only thing holding Strickland & Dricus together is their dislike for Izzy 😂
And DDP don't wanna get stabbed n Sean don't wanna go to prison
lol
Wtf....they shook hand like nothing happened
can yall just leave him alone. im not a fan of him either but yall bring izzy literally everywhere even if the video isnt abt him.
they prob squashed it behnd the scene and i mean..it's kind of hard to talk shit about a dude that's clearly mentally fucked up via childhood trauma
nobody likes seeing a grown man break down and cry in front of you because of trauma whether you like him or not@@zahidzehan3046
DDP and Sean just showed people how you resolve a dispute as grown men. Respect to them both.
yes, thats usually what happens when one gets butthurt enough to start threatening to stab the other person
It wasn’t resolved 😂 cameras and all , you cant really misbehave
@@strawhatJ grown men dont make fun of children getting abused either
To schedule a fight? 😂
@@jonnyboy5357Grown men know when to stop bullying others unprovoked.
That coworker gettin the signature for his buddy is a top tier individual
Dude is gonna be like 20 bucks or cover a day off lol
Good to see them shake hands after Dricus didn't press charges... glad they both see the bigger picture and respect the fight game enough to know what comes with it.
I thought Sean would be the one to press charges
If he pressed charges fight wouldn't happen😂 and UFC would no doubt not give him the title shot again
South Africans don't press charges. We sort our own problems out.
He saw Sean’s threat and now all the sudden wants to be buddies w him that boy scary 😂😂😂
That fight made them probably a million more dollars.
That interaction at the beginning is how real stand up dudes handle things. Perfect example for people to see
Exactly. Real men can have disagreements handle them (even with a fight) and show each other respect after.
Real men fight. What you talking about? All this respect is just weakness.
i feel like that brawl was all an act smh
@@tanemexyou never been in the heat of the moment ?
@@MrSean5123 I've been but it's different when you're trying to sell fights you know. Just my opinion. How the camera angle went from ddp to Sean slowly and how ddp was acting and the fact that they were sitting so close.
5:17 that instant reaction😂 I get the feeling
Chris Curtis' instant reaction to the weather was so funny LOL
Dricus and Seans interaction was so wholesome. I'm excited for this fight. The maturity level they both have to squash the "beef"... A lot of respect.
Im so confused when did they makeup
Dricus defended Sean's actions after their scuffle, so I'm assuming they had words privately, and sorted it out @@johndoe-fq7ez
@@johndoe-fq7ezinbox . Dricus mentioned days ago Strickland messaging him just saying don’t bring up his child hood trauma or he’ll stab him lol but in all seriousness they’re in Canada not the states . Freedom is on the line & so is money over here . So it’s a mutual understanding .
@@NoFraudsTVyeah he wouldv been fine pulling a gun or knife at dric in the states.. missed opportunity.. maybe some another day when they fight in the states wel see some blood drawn outside the cage like usual..
Dricus is a grown up. I dont think he's taken anything personal with sean
The interaction between Strickland and DDP was fire! LOVE these guys
They just lost 100k PPV buys with that interaction
@@michaeljames3912really? I’m even more intrigued for the fight now that I’ve seen this
@@Theoneeyed_ghoulsame, but the casual audience might not be
Did I miss something? Sean thanked him for being understanding, I can infer what he’s talking about but wondering if a convo happened prior? Help!!!
@@emanuelsmith1590same, I don’t really know what happened that made them bury the hatchet
No matter what happens Sean is already at peace. You can actually see the anxiety and anger he had slowly fading he even sounds more calm not always yelling his conversations. He has fans, funancial security , Bros gonna be okay
I like Sean but I feel like he's just a ticking time bomb
Yes. i don`t think he is done winning yet though. dricus is going to be outclassed boxing and surprised when he goes for the wrestling. i hope
@@m3rl707 somehow I dont think so. I think Sean is actually a guy with a fair bit of self control, and clearly a hell of a lot of self-awareness. He is a wild man, who is under control enough to move the wife and kid out of the way before starting a brawl. Of course if he gets CTE, who knows what could happen, but if he were a ticking time bomb, at 32 years old he'd have a record: DUIs, domestic violence, arrests for assault, like Jon Jones or War Machine did. I'd wager he's fine
I am not going to make any speculation, but maybe his girlfriend and Nina are a positive for him. He does seem to be a peace. That opening sequence was interesting. DPP's girlfriend was there and said nice to meet you. Sean said thanks for being understanding. Their fighters, their professionals., their people.
Facing your demons does that to you. He was hiding from it and got forced to face it head on. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they ended up training like that.
You can tell Sean’s well mannered he took off his hat stood up and shook Dricus’s hand
Nice seeing Sean's gf and his side peice get along so well.
Hahaha
beat me to this comment. Strickland a legend for that
bruhhhh
Wahhhaaa hhhaaa😂
Their both cool girls
I’m watching this from my train on the way to Toronto, gonna see this fight live! Wasn’t expecting Sean and Dricus to be so cordial, I am very surprised. They are both good guys at heart.
@JrE-il7cfsean threw elbows to dricus's brain stem in that brawl. could be fake but that's some dedication
That was so sick, especially after what happened last time. Respect to both fighters.
Yo, ticket prices are mad expensive
you hate someone and then be nice to them the day after.. I do it all the time. @JrE-il7cf
Enjoy the event it should be a great title fight with 2 very evenly matched fighter's in DDP V STRICKLAND 👍
I love how self aware Sean Strickland is about the attention he is getting. When the fans love you, they really love you, then they'll turn based on the most arbitrary things.
“One week they love you, next week they hate you. Make sure you get paid both weeks”- Conor McGregor
No way DDP and Strickland just had that friendly exchange as if they didn't just brawl and continually insult each other. Surreal.
despite DeSean's wild nature, he seems to be able to reflect well and make the right decision. Didn't want to see that beef go away, but I kinda like they grew beyond that situation. That's champ shit right there
That's because you don't know true character yet bubba. You'll get there tho
More like Boyfriends Club stuff.
It's probably because Sean realized how ridiculous he looks getting upset someone made fun of him when that's literally all he does he tries his hardest to hit the deepest when talking about someone than goes on podcasts crying and fighting dudes cause they made fun of his daddy issues lol that's mad hypocritical
Typically the beefs are never really serious in the first place. They want to sell the fight.
I wish dricus doubled down on the dad stuff
The co-worker that got his homie that hat is a real one.
going on Ebay lol
Timestamp?
yah my nephew got that hat!
@@myrohalb1244 1:07
I thought the same thing 😁
Respect to Dricus for coming up to Sean right away. That was a stand up thing to do
I thought they were gonna beat each-other up again 😂😂
@@williamj2494Sean texted Dricus after the scuffle and asked him nicely to please not mention his daddy and that he would also not mention anything personal if Dricus wanted. He said if Dricus mentioned his dad he would murder Dricus and ruin both of their lives. So yeah Sean is just a weird POS, Dricus is a good dude.
@@Navi_xooyour probably an American backing a South African over your own fellow American 😂
@@NotmintvrIs it a bad thing to back a respectable guy over a psychopath?
@saltoftheearth13 you do know he made fun of Sean for child abuse right? 😂
Damn, Dricus looks like an absolute beast on the mitts! I swear though, I just really want Sean to defend his title just once so he can be cemented as a true champion. Then dricus can have the damn thing. I have to pull for my man Sean in this one. The people’s champ!!
Sean is a true champion, he's the champion people love and enjoy. Although he says some silly stuff but he is real and raw. I'd love to see Sean visit South Africa to chill, DDP will definitely show him around, he will grow into a more calm and determined human being and champ.
So he defends his title once and you regard him as true champ, but Alex couldnt over Izzy but no problem with that.
@Lordalbertreels He didn't mention or say that at all about Alex, so not sure where your coming up with that lol
You must defend your title at least once to be considered a true champion. Everyone knows this. Otherwise they’ll just say it was a fluke. So yes, that even applies to the great Poatan!
That whole thing is bullshit. Guy fought 20 times in the ufc before he got the belt , he doesn't need some bullshit 1 fight stipulation to become champion
Lmfao “I want my fight to be wild, like waffle house at 3am” Chris Curtis haha
Ain’t that the truth…I was @ one when some dude and his boy started thrashing the joint over the lack of hot syrup…they tossed chairs and mugs at the cooks since it’s an open kitchen…one of the cooks threw hot grease at the attackers…and the cops didn’t show up until 5 or 6 hours later…Atlanta, Georgia 2017
His nickname is Action Man after all
@@jorgeacevedo2039 were they serving lean/sizrup as hot syrup or what? lol
@@jorgeacevedo2039I've seen some brawls in waffle house in Fayetteville 2018😂😂 shit is crazy
Great line
Of all the days to not be working I get the one when Strickland came through. So grateful to my buddy for shouting me out and have his signed hat sitting beside my computer at home now! Will be rooting for him this weekend. 👍
Unlucky bro !! Literally came here to look for your comment lmao
Yesterday, I read your comment on Reddit regarding the hat. When I watched that part in the video, it brought a smile to my face, your buddy is a G for doing that
@@pvls0014he absolutely is and Strickland as well, he had nothing but good things to say about him
That’s a good friend
I live an hour away from Toronto so it's both surreal and awesome to see Sean and all the other fighters actually here and experiencing what Canada has to offer especially when it comes to our freezing weather, It was nice to see both Sean and Dricus settle their beef like real gentlemen and I go back and forth on who actually wins the fight but I know that it's going to be a guaranteed banger!
I'd love for sean to win because he's truly the people's champ, but dricus is just so fucking huge for this weightclass it's crazy!
They literally visited Toronto during a cold snap. Coldest week of the year so far.
Canada doesnt have shit to offer but lack of freedom lol
I’m from Mississauga and it’s crazy to see these guys here
@@adambarr24 I'm from Brampton myself and it's still wild to think about LOL
That’s a real homie knew his boy missed seeing Sean and got him a autograph 😂
Tremendous respect to both guys for that opening hug. You could tell that meant a lot to both of them.
Win lose or draw Sean needs some help.
Lame that Strickland and Plessis are shaking hands. Just dumb at this point...
@alcottdevalte7440
It's a sport. Competitors aren't always sworn enemies
@@alcottdevalte7440 Well strickland started playing victim and started threatening to stab him so dricus didn't want to go in any further lol if there's anyone to blame for the beef dying its sean
@@thejoke2791 I always buy the PPV's. And this bad blood made it more exciting and fun. Now, it's all dumb after everything that happened with so much drama, crying and circus show...
Shoutout to the coworker getting a signed hat for his buddy! Good looking out!
Thass a real friend right there.
Good partner
We all need a friend like him
Man a comment above you is the person that got the hat 😅😅😅
The beginning really got to me. I love both of these guys so much, they are real warriors and we are in for a treat!!
Chris Curtis really said "It's not just going to be a fight, it's going to be a Waffle House at 3 am fight". 😂 I love it
Curtis's reaction walking out of the airport was like a scene out of cool runnings 😂😂😂
Lol spot on
Feel the rhythm, feel the rhyme, get on up its bobsled time!
Lmao. My favorite movie!
Ya dead sanka?
@@agoosoriano903 Yah Mon 😂😅
Sean and DDP really are just true men, they handled their beef and fought...now they can shake hands and have mutual respect haha.
This is true
And fight again
Nah DDP probably apologized in Sean's DMs about the father comments. Sean says: "Thanks again for understanding" when they shake hands.
Lame that Strickland and Plessis are shaking hands. Just dumb at this point...
@@porkerpete7722I think “thanks for understanding “ might had to do with dricus not pressing charges. But yiu can be right as well, we can only guess
this is the moast pure human moment in Ufc, i cannot believe what kind of ppl and storyes this sport brings together. pure souls man.......AND STILL!!!!!!!!
Nina's pure support for Sean like a brother sister is awesome.
😆 3rd wheelin
@8FREDOO 😆 jealous of a woman
Sean’s hittin that
She is annoing as hell. Not a journalist,never speak about the sport. Bleah
Alabama brother sister
My favourite part is both the athletes, Sean and Dricus, burying the hatchet, and focusing on professionalism.
that didnt happen
you casuals needing fighters to hug and kiss are killing the "sport"
@@travisgoestherenah fr lmao they ruined a little of the hype behind the fight they could’ve of ran w it they had a perfect promo
Yeah, coz that'll put butts in the seats 🙄
@travisgoesthere The irony of a person preferring the bad blood, which there is nothing wrong with that, calling someone who likes the sportmanship because it provides just a good a fight a "casual". Go back to Gilbert Yvel vs Semi Schilts, training partners, both Dutch, friends, and how violent it was. Mark Coleman vs Don Frye, no bad blood, a lot of respect and good nature, very violent fight. Wonderboy vs Holland, maybe not violent, but very entertaining, and there was only respect, and good grace amongst both. Cro Cop vs Pat Barry, training partners, friends, and the fight was still violent. Zombie vs Max, nothing but respect and admiration, yet very violent. Oh, yeah, you are right, what a casual I am.
Can't see Sean losing a decision, can't see Dricus losing a stoppage. Going to be a great fight!
Its gonna be boring
@@Totalnikkadeath It's impossible for Dricus to be boring but Sean is pretty boring lets be real
Well either Sean gives a masterclass or Dricus walks through him in early rounds
Slow starter vs fast starter if Sean manages to drag Dricus into the 3rd round it'll be a wrap 😅💯
If Dricus pushes the pace and wins R1. Dricus has early success R2 but starts gassing out, which allows Sean to take over for a couple of minutes, but Dricus lands something big at the end of the round. Then, Dricus has a second wind during R3 and puts it on Sean to take R3. However, If Dricus pushing a pace like this, I figure Sean would take over as the fight continues to takeoff, which would give him R4 or R5. However, in this scenario, Sean would likely take R2 when Dricus is gassing out a bit. I could see Sean getting 3-2 decision, with it being less likely that Dricus gets one. Sean could get a dominant decision like against Adesanya, but if he just dominates Dricus, and Dricus can’t land shit, he will probably get finished in the latter half of the fight..with Sean getting a TKO
Seeing Sean living his best life and being happy truly motivates me as someone who deals with a lot of demons and mental trauma you are an inspiration for me to be the best version of myself thank you for existing bud
This is a special fight. Everytime a special fight happens, you can see and feel the energy in the lead up and on these embedded episodes. Something epic will happen Saturday night.
Sean and DDP are awesome for actually being nice. Especially after that fight they had. Big respect to both fighters.
Love the good altercation from ddp and Sean.
Why? Takes away all the extra tension for the fight, khabib and Conor didn’t have any handshakes before their fight
Yes, it was just like watching an episode of the Care Bears cartoon.
@@usadarren4
Or is the "friendship" fake, for the sponsors ?
People need dictionaries nowadays. Altercation is not the word.
@@usadarren4uh yeah they want to sell the fight lol, it’s not “being fake” it’s business
This is the first time in a long time I am torn between who I want to win the title. Sean and Dricus are both super respectful. The last time this happened was DC vs Gustafsson. Super excited for this fight.
Same 🔥🔥 Both such solid dudes I don’t want either to lose.
Jan vs Glover? :D
Conor vs Khabib?
Nah. You can like Conor and hate Khabib or like Khabib and hate Conor. But that fight did not have mutual respect. Too much bad blood between the two of them.@@debbiedowner4327
Leon vs Colby
Wonderful respect for the beginning of the video!!! It's cool to show this aspect!!
I'm surprised Sean & Dricus shook hands and buried the hatchet!
There was never beef. Things were said actions were taken but none of that matters. What matters is the actual fight and they both understand that
Sometimes you shouldn't bury the hatchet though I think lines were crossed lmao
Two chads
They’re both good men
It could easily flare back up worse after the presser
You can tell Sean feels bad for those elbows to the neck that night. Dricus is a chill guy. Sean has immense respect for him. Heat of the moment really created an awkward situation. These guys could be good friends I'm sure. Fishing buds for life 🤙😁
Cringe as hell
@@idrunkdriveIt was a funny comment. Did you not get the joke at the end? Obviously not.
Can you explain the joke at the end, please? @@craigr4763
@@idrunkdrive😂😂😂
Bro had the perfect response lmao
Mad respect for them both for settling the beef. Standup guys and dont need that extra jazz.
I actually couldn’t stand these guys two months ago…now I can’t get enough. Great guys! Both super intelligent, funny and high values 👍🏽👍🏽🇦🇺
How Sean gets up and takes his hat off before shaking Dricuss‘ hand shows you what kind of guy he is.
But left the gloves on...🤔
Its cold homie
Its cold homie
Its cold homie
Its cold homie
I love that he bought a knife first thing after getting into Canada..😂😂
why
After threatening to stab Dricus if he brings up Sean's dad 😅
@@benjaminsmith1328 lmao bruh
@@benjaminsmith1328 Dude this is the comment i just searched for - super sketchy
Sean knocking about in Canada with his two girlfriends is quality content😂
Never has there been another real champ like we have here! Dude has a heart of gold behind all the bullshit.
Nice to see sean and dricus shake hands!
Literally killed all the hype
@@OVO-Adolf I've you're raised on WWE, then that is the kind of stupid hype you're used to.
Yes, but only if yer an old lady.
Then 2 minutes later buys a knife lol
@@cptpepper7731 I'm no WWE fan but why tf would we want to see two fighters make up before they fight? Make up and shake hands after
Sean and Dricus at the begining shaking hands and huging is the kind of Respect i looooooove to see ...💪🏻
Watching Sean evolve into what he’s become has been so awesome to see over the last year
"You get paid to make weight, not to fight." - This hits hard... nothing but the truth
I never thought DDP and Strickland would shake hands after this, I’m really impressed.
I was pretty much sure they would solve this as soon as I saw the Theo Von podcast.
Love how Sean showed respect to Dricus and his wife by removing his hat. Old school class
Cause dude already lost.. DDP completely destroyed him before the fight 😂
@@JohnnyCdz I mean ... The internet thought ddp was gay till recently 😂😂😂😂 Sean did damage
@@JohnnyCdzpfffttt you’re probably one of those peopke blabbing “ddp is in Sean’s head!!!!” Blah blah blah
That’s so subtle, but wholesome when you know! Great observation.
Great obersvation for sure. Hat etiquette.
It’s so cool to see my city on display like this, hope the ufc comes back again soon!
Love how he got a knife of all things. Dricus needa look out lmfao
The kid getting his coworker a signed hat was so wholesome.
sean buying a knife after hearing him talk about the texts is hilarious😂😂
Lmao I didn’t expect the video to kickoff with these two shaking hands and giving a hug 🤣🤣🤣 it’s all respect though in the end
lmfao Sean, his girl and Nina just going on trips together and Nina husband like "guys i like the UFC as well you know" lmao
Sean has two girlfriends
Curtis seamlessly going from general fight talk to a visceral reaction to the weather was fucking great. Bet he would have preferred going back on the plane in that moment.
7:18 I’m glad I ain’t the only one that says have a nice day, when it’s pitch black outside 😂
Woah, didn't see the cordial greeting coming 😂
Sean casually buying a knife after threatening to stab Dricus if he brings up his father while the UFC cameras film is hilarious 🤣
Lol it's good marketing for his persona. He knows what he's doing. And I love it.
@@NorthVikingKingno he's genuine nothing fake about him at all...
Both are such a good human being at the end of the day, very very nice to see. 👍
I might just be a random fan but it truly makes me happy to see them shake hands and get back to business.
Same!
Good to see an Australian champion fight in Canada
Desean is the African champ!
Who
Chinese champion
No, he's only coming back 2027, apparently. @@marcelotapia3970
That first clip is what it's all about. 2 warriors showing respect to each other before a war
Wow this confirms they will try to kill each other 😂 love this
For the first after years of watching MMA I honestly will feel sad for the loser...they re both great fighters and as it seems great guys as well
Im almost certain that dricus will win but in my own universe sean wins and has a press conference with conor and theire constantly hating each other lmao.
Dricus and Sean are super likeable in both personality and fighting style.
Saying "Good luck, ey" was the most Canadian thing the guy could have said
Idk wot yer talkin a 👢
It's common in South Africa. We say hey or ey often.
Eh*
sean buying a knife is killin me... tooo fuckn funny how serious this dude is
Lmao sean buying a knife at the bass pro shop , he is the realest
Two dudes that understand the fight game right here - love to see the handshake after all the crap talk and tussle in the crowd. Can’t wait for this banger 🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸
Sean taking off his hat to shake hands… only a few will know that actually is a huge sign of respect… 👍👍
In South Africa it is common for us to do that. It's great to see others abroad showing such respect.
Missed the part where he left his glove on which is a sign of disrespect.
He took off his hat as well as standing up I was always taught that by my Father " You NEVER Shake another man's hand sitting down you always stand up and shake his hand!"
You can tell Sean really is a good dude
I love that Chris Curtis is on the same card as Strickland 😂 lol I hope they both get the win 🏆
Sean has my support 110%. On another note dricus looks like an action figure. I dont know how a middle weight can look so huge.
💉
He’s in cahoots with Borranchina with the secret 🧃
I'm fucking HYPED for this fight. Sean is my favourite fighter and I want him to win, but Dricus has become such a cool guy to me after watching all these videos and interviews of him. I had no opinion on him before, but now I've seen more of his personalty I like him a lot. Gonna be such a great fight I can't wait!
That guy getting his boy a signed cap - Legend - Fair few beers owed there mate!
Watching Sean and his partner be so connected with NINA, is truly lovely. I can tell his success is bringing him peace. I don't care if he loses the animal in him. I wish him peace.
lol “partner” sounds gay
Bot comment no mma fan is a fan of Nina
Wrong, nina is great
She couldve chose plenty of other athletes to follow around. He wasnt even champ yet when she was giving him alot of coverage.@@JosephAdams93
@@mugen11120she’s entertaining and actually brings our fighter’s personalities . Been watching for 20 years. Her and Sanko are a fucking breath of fresh air for the UFC
Great respect between the 2 at the start. Hope it continues throughout fight week!
Love the interaction between 2 real men... 👌💪The media tries so heard to push the heat and instigate but they don't succeed!!!
Yeah the big bad media sat them close together at the last ppv and threw Sean on top of DDP. They also made DDP say anything about Sean's childhood and forced Sean to threaten to stab DDP with a knife. The media tries too hard.
Sean is truly the people’s champ. Last time he was fighting in Miami. Saw him strolling down Washington Ave and I said “What’s up Sean?” and he dapped me up.
“Oh my god why do you live here it’s so cold!” Man moving to Toronto Canada not too long ago, I felt this deeply
Looked up the weather, 20 degrees doesn't seem super cold but it says it feels like 5 🥶
Usually its 0° and up this time of year but it's abnormally cold at -12 so they are getting more than they bargain for lol.
I can't think of any fighter saying good luck to his opponent face to face lmao lfg Sean!
conor with floyd
Mad respect to both of these fighters
Im glad Strickland and Dricus can shake on it and learn to respect each others qualities. Those 2 are real men
how can you not love Strickland? you can tell he's a good dude who just acts out as a defense mechanism
It's plain as day for those that can see it.
Dude has legitimate “trauma” - most others just claim it. He’s the embodiment of being who you are despite, and also because of, your upbringing. The plurality of being a man in a broken world epitomized.
@@gramanhfolcwald1597 for sure, you can tell that first presser Sean's facial expressions change. Like some sort of PTSD that just surged with the thought of it.
I just don’t like the fact he can dish it out to everyone even to people who have nothing to do with him, but can’t take it.
Yes it was fucked to bring up childhood, but when you say crazy shit about people, you have to expect that you will meet someone who will say some shit that will make you flip.
Just like that one saying “you may be crazy, but there will always be someone crazier.
Sean is weak. All that abuse talk is weak. He should be a man and grow up.
Great how they embraced in the hallway, respect to both guys! May the best man win 🤙
Brilliant to see them shaking hands and respecting each other
Man I Fucking love Chris Curtis . Dude has been through everything in his career and he absorbs every moment in UFC
SOOO happy for Chris Curtis , dude gets to be on the same card as his homie and is scheduled an easy one
Sean & DDP be like - "Wakanda Forever"
The "Good Luck eh?" at 1:55 is so so Canadian! 😅
An absolute magnitude of immediate shock within the first minute of this video 😂 love it.
The thumbnail already brought the shock factor to me. 😂
@@thearyaputra 😂
It's funny to hear the fighters saying it's so cold when we've had a pretty mild winter so far lol
Including Sean buying a knife is comic gold 😂 editor needs a raise
Sean is someone I’ve seen change so much but still stay the same