Nice clear video. Instead of holding the cut can with a cloth, you can use one of those neoprene soda/beer can cozies that fit over the can exactly. You can drill the holes before cut the ring off when the can is a little stiffer. You can use smaller energy-drink cans (8.4-ounce Red Bull, for instance, instead of standard 12-ounce soda can) or larger cans like 16-ounce Rockstar or 24-ounce malt liquor (Olde English 800, Colt 45, King Cobra) if you want a smaller or bigger stove. The larger cans have noticeably thicker aluminum walls, so they are little harder to cut but sturdier once assembled.
Just made one of these and felt the need to say thank you for putting together such a well edited and clearly narrated guide. All the best from the UK.
You are a genius!! As if the first generation werent good enough, now you improved it! Thank you for taking the energy to share. Consider putting a disclaimer about the hazard in handling razor-sharp metal.
The "music" brings back painful memories of being stuck on a level of Wolfenstein and not being able to find a way out. The beauty of a soda can stove is that it's free -- until you add tape. Cut the cans longer, slip one inside the other and you're back to free.
Very nice. I counted about 10 - 12 seconds from starting to full stable burn. That will save loads of fuel that was wasted on the original design just trying to warm up. 👍👍👍👍
I finished mine ! I'll test it after I get another blood transfusion from my fingers cuttings and loss of blood, now im convinced to bring my kitchen stove on my next camping trip.
Use 1/32 drill bit or if you prefer larger finger drains use 1/16 drill bit. Despite the 1980 Casio Synthesizer music and a laundry list of safety hazards, this is a great video on a very simple and useful product. Full disclosure, my dad drilled straight through his finger fixing a Christmas tree stand with these techniques... looked at me through the hole in his bone/nail. Love that man!
One small tip, when you're drilling the vent holes in the top don't have your finger on the inside of the can while youre drilling on the outside or you might wind up with a "vented" finger.
After I inadvertently sliced off most of my fingertips & drilled holes into the remaining ones, this stove was handy & efficient for cauterization. Mama always said, "What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger." This is why she always said that.
Awesome. With fire lighting illegal in Britain, I've been looking for alternatives to a big, dumb butane cooker for my travelling kit. This seems a sensible primary for making a brew or a quick bacon butty. Perfect for my needs👍
@@shatterpointgamesThe Minneapolis police beat a homeless man who was lighting small fires in a parking garage to keep warm. We're all living in a dystopia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also made that design...but if you fill half full on it....it will take a half a minute before flames goes out ....its fine I love that new improved design. Keep up the good work! God bless
the yellow flames are proof that the fuel isn't burning efficiently. I like the penny stove it seems to be one of the best. my grands and I made the card board and wax and cardboard and oil they seemed to be very close to the same in cooking time we did a little experiment on that one with 2 different fuels and made hot chocolate. still cool experiments and all will boil water and cook something to eat. great job thanks for sharing.
Probable the capillarity effect of the groove's in the inner can are too much,* sucking more fuel than is possible mix with air. * Maybe if make less groove's help.
one more thing...so glad there is someone teaching how to do these things, when TSHTF people need to know how to survive with what they can find. This is not just for campers. Good job
Great vid! To get all thre creases out of the metal tape and get a perfect seal use the backing paper from the tape to rub the tape down. Gently obviously! Works perfect. Duct fitters trick 😉
using a tall and a short can ie energy drink can and cola you get a size difference so one can will slide inside the other so you don't need the foil and it is stronger.
I want to describe a stove that I made after several years of R&D, for you. It was based upon your own design. I needed power and longevity of burn time for the outdoors. I needed to make Coffee, breakfast and hot water after that on one burn. Yet remain lite and compact to carry easily in my cook set. My stove is well over 45 min of burn time, usually about 54min burn time. I used a large sized , used Sterno canister for the base. I brazed in a smaller (you can JB weld this) a taller can upside down with the original top removed and fuel vanes added for flow down inside. The inside can ( heated pressurized fuel reservoir) is basically sealed once the pot or pan is placed on top. I packed the inbetween space with fiberglass insulation to the top level of the Sterno base can. The final part was to drill a 1/8th fill hole in the top of the braised center can bottom (which is now the top) to add fuel. This acts as the huge fuel tank , and low pressure heat expansion chamber. Of course the fiberglass is the flame ring just like your "Feest" stove and the principal is the same. However, the fuel volume is massive and there is an inherent preheat and charge with this design that acts more like a natural gas burner in efficiency and burn time. I have other alcohol stoves just like you. However, this is my go to must have HOG burner that out cooks all others for time and efficiency.
@@romainejayne1811 it's easy to make it. My stove design is also around 50 min of burn time. I just need 1 tuna can. I put the carbon felt first (or u can use toilet paper or jeans) to the bottom as the first layer. Then I give steel wool above as the second layer. Cover it on top with the iron mesh. I don't need JB weld or tape adhesive for my stove. I just need mini pot stand to boil or to cook. If I cook the rice, I put my simmer ring on top, to reduce the flame.
@@poutchiepuffin4266 I already bought my mesh but haven't made my stove yet. I leaned off using the carbon felt. Steel wool and jeans mat'l. lol Except my mesh is soft stainless steel and probably won't last long.
Great video, got here from Kenneth Kramm's video. He made, and uses this stove all the time, and it's great. I'm going to make this, and I appreciate your effort.
So I just spent the last four hours watching stove videos. I decided I wanted to build a stove and I made this one. This one gets up and running within a few seconds. I watched a video where some guy made his version of the double wall can stove. Then he lit it and spent three minutes saying how awesome his stove was while he was waiting for it to warm up. This was a fun project. I've still got ten more cans of coke, I wonder what else I can make.
the razor blade hangs out pretty far allowing it to flex, giving you some unclean cuts, putting them a bit further back on the board might help you with that.
I just made one of these, first one I made off another video and it won't light, this one worked great, I already put it with my emergency coffee maker, in case the power gos out. Going to make some more of these for cooking to. Thanks man!
I might try this just because it's cool. What do you think, would it be any easier to cut the can if it was filled with water and allowed to freeze first. Then you'd have something to push against and maybe cut through the aluminum completely. I think I might give it a try.
+Left of Everywhere That may work too by freezing but if you don't want to go to the trouble with the blocks of wood, you can use dollar store scissors and just a utility knife, a few of my prototypes were made that way and they came out great. The cans cut super easy.
Awesome , I like the whole deal where it burns nicer and more efficient, medal tape has some goo glue type stuff , idk if I’d cook over it until atleast burning off that glue but really is cool 😎
I actually have a decent tip here! A can opener will take off the top of a soda can with no sharp edges. You can fit a smaller hydroponic basket in the top doing that as well. Also, gloves are helpful you loon (but thanks for the solid instructional vid)
So many different designs. I did build a lot of versions around the time this video was made and my testing show the basis of the 3 part stove to be the most efficient. But the one I settled on was a very simple 3 piece design. Where the top pressed onto the bottom with a simple inner wall. No silver tape required.
It's a great idea, but may not work as well in cold temperatures. that was my experience with the penny soda can stove. The open center may make the difference though. Definitely worth testing!
Brian Wall my cousin made one for his deer blind and put it in a terra-cotta pot! And he is in Michigan! It heats up the pot and produces more heat. He said it actually roasted him out last night!
Nice video! I was going on an overnight hiking trip with the college in 2005 and wanted something to cook my evening meal on. I would up buying one much like the first design from Tinny at Minibull Design. For my $5 he included a video on how to make them. I tested it, liked it, and set to work making some more. Wound up selling one to a classmate... for $5. Stove worked great and all I had to buy was the metal flue tape. I'll try your design for my next one. :)
Everyone commenting on getting cut on the aluminum edges probably haven't handled cut aluminum much. It's is a slicing hazard only if you are sliding your hand across the cut surface. Pressure straight down will not likely result in a cut even if you are pounding your hand down on it. I know, I demonstrated this to some naysayers by repeatedly slamming my hand on a cut can edge and showing no penetration. AnywAY! Great Video, Nice to show every step. I don't miss the lack of instruction, your actions showed everything and there were no words to confuse the issue. I could show this to any friend who speaks another language and they could follow this easily. The music was epically intense for the video, LOL. I felt like I was in a drama. Anyway, I"ve made a few cans before seeing this. I see this has more steps, and I can see why. I will try it. I like the way it looks and how it works.
Fill the can with sand and then cut with the razor scribe. Makes for easier, cleaner, faster, safer cuts especially if you are making a dozen or so at a time.
if the issue is only the preheating of the stove, adding the very common fiberglass wick to the outside is awesome for that. Speeds up blossoming of the stove. I preheat all alcohol stoves, and it's undoubtedly the way to go. You can also use a can lid or just a bit of foil honestly, to hold fuel under the burner and preheat it.
Two weeks later (and many burns as well) no problems, this thing will light with even a small spark from a ferro rod. Although one lesson learnt was if you plan to use this stove make sure your pan is as dry as possible, if it isn't completely hold it over the flame for a few minutes then wipe away water that appears on the bottom, your efficiency will be severely effected if you don't.
The concept is ok but You know you can avoid using aluminum tape by letting the top side longer so that they come together one inside the other, keep trying. 👍
@@escapetherace1943 Well you need to try again cause i just slided top side inside bottom side and mine works perfectly. Btw, its my first soda can alcohol stove. Newbie luck prehaps? :D
The capillary modification should result in better cold weather performance. I'm tempted to 3D print a corrugator to make 1/4" pitch folds in can sidewall aluminum to use as a capillary inner wall in a pop can stove made from two can bottoms pressed together (no metal tape).
When your dish towel isn’t working and you need to grab a sharp piece of thin metal, feel free to wear gloves. Drilling toward your finger is not only foolish, but is also another great opportunity to wear gloves.
Using gloves while opperating power tools is an even worse idea.. just Google- glove caught in (and then insert whatever power tool) and watch the carnage...
The flames look like they're dancing. Great video. Next step is how to create controllers to turn up/ down the flame. I would of loved to see you put out the flame safely.
Forget about rhe background music..... Focus on the procedure... i love soda can survival stove... I've use it on my camping party and for an emergency Cooking ...👍
AJ Saveliev You set the pot directly on the stove. Otherwise the large flame coming out of the center consumes too much fuel. The outer jets will continue to burn.
No you do not set the pot directly on the stove. I have used this set up for years for backpacking. Initially I used 3 tent stakes to hold the pot over the stove, sometimes not the sturdiest. I also tried just finding appropriate sized rocks, not always easy or possibly. More recently I fashioned a pot holder out of a bit of stove-pipe coupling. Works good
Setting a small backpacking pot directly on top seems to be too close in my experience. I bought a small pot and stand combo by Esbit that can burn solid fuel tabs and is just the right size to fit one of these DIY alcohol can stoves. CS585HA model number. The can stove fits in the package for storage quite nicely and the stand has pretty good wind protection for the flame as well. Great for single person very light weight and small volume stove. Sterno stove bases are pretty commonly available at department stores, etc. If concerned about covering the center, could cut out a bottom section of another can to fit over it while burning.
Absolutely reusable. I test stoves by using them time after time. I have three ultimate stoves i put through the wringer. Original ultimate stove made from 2 Ocean Spray juice cans 500 burns Made from 2 monster cans has 390 burns Made from 2 Hansen energy drink cans with 350 burns
A seal between the top of the inner wall and the stove top, maybe? As I understand things, this would stop the pressure in the vapour chamber leaking to the stove centre/fill hole. A bit of your metal tape would do it.
Remember years ago there was a japanese sounding guy who made these with pipes and vanes etc...all designed to increase the production of heat. His stoves would whistle and roar( quietly,of course) with effort. Well worth researching if you start getting into these simple but relatively efficient little stoves. Remember to build 3 sizes...bigger the job, bigger the stove.
@@Sokol10 If you store on the shelf, then yes. If you are on the hike and have some leftover alcohol inside the stove after cooking, its not a problem to store it insid the trangia burner till your next meal time 3 hours later. Leave it on a shelf with alcohol, will obviously corrode it over time so burn last fuel off. Alcohol is cheap anyway.
Never made one, never planned to, but I've known of them, particularly in lightweight applications like hiking the Appalachian Trail. Anyway, I just checked in to my hotel and decided to buy some water since usually urban hotel water is nasty. I spot a bottle Ive never seen. As soon as I pick it up I'm thinking, "Oh that's a nice bottle! You could make one of those stoves out of this thing!" It's called Heart Water. I've never seen it before. Nice aluminum purple bottle. I drank it and I must say it was tasty water! Then I'm inspecting the can in amazement at the shear amount of aluminum it contains. Not sure I'll try making a stove, but I'll probably keep the bottle and reuse it. I think anyone looking for a lot more rigidity for a very slight weight increase should try doing it with a Heart Water bottle. Seriously. Pick one up and you'll see what I mean! Thanks for the video. It was enjoyable to watch. Next time boil some water though...
You might like to check out a new design I've posted with internal and external flame jets. It works best with ethanol, doesn't need priming, so heats from the moment it's lit, doesn't need a pot stand and allows easy retrieval of unburnt fuel for later use. It also works well with charcoal ruclips.net/video/DcUKaHoYEUU/видео.html
That's like trying to cook a turkey with Esbit or canned heat. Not a good idea. Besides you need a full size oven and not a stove for something like that.
Looks like your "improved" stove gets hot faster with less efficiency. The orange flame is unburned carbon. It's like a choke on a carburetor making the fuel/air mixture richer. The problem is you don't disengage the choke after your up to operating temperature. The result will be continued inefficient burning (wasted fuel).
My lower, right tricuspid began to throb....and left eye started twitching maddeningly... I was perplexed by the mesmerizing, and as of yet unknown neurological fingernails-clawing-down-a-chalkboard affect on my psyche. The music did, in fact suck.....the vid, however, was rad. IMHO.
I've watched a number of videos about making similar alcohol stoves and it goes without saying that most claim their particular configuration is an "improved model" when compared to other designs. From my perspective, it seems that when using the same amount of identical fuel you are limited to a theoretically finite and consistent BTU output regardless of how the stove is configured. Yes, some stoves may take less time to reach a "bloom" point after an initial "flare" but are they really generating more heat? Typically these alcohol stoves are designed with either an "open top" similar to the ones in this video or a "closed top" such as the widely made "penny can stoves." If one places a pot or other container more or less 3/4 of a inch above a penny can stove as soon as it is lit thereby immediately directing all flame to the bottom of a container how is it that you are mystically losing some large amount of useable heat? I'm not being a contrarian but those who claim that this or that design represents a genuinely "improved" model should offer more empirical evidence to support such statements I would likewise note that from a safety standpoint I think that the "open top" stoves are potentially more dangerous than the "closed top" models. Should an "open top" stove be inadvertently knocked over, it would appear that there is a greater danger of fire from spilled fuel. Conversely, while a "closed top" stove may, indeed, lose some fuel a reduced amount of lost alcohol would result in at least a lesser chance of an unwanted fire.
Good points. If the burn time is too long then it gives the cooking pot more time to bleed heat to the outside world, too fast and a lot of the heat shoots past the pot and is lost. There is a happy medium but the exact set up changes daily in the field. Add to the issue "what to do with the little fuel left after the pot comes to the boil" further muddies the water. Worrying over a 5 min boil or an 8 min boil seems silly to me. I would much rather have an 8 minute boil time and a bit of fuel left over then it to burn faster and use all the fuel before getting to a boil. Waiting for it to cool so I can top it up and then finish the boil is a big no no for me. By the way, if anyone is going to say that they only need to carry 879ml ( not a whole one litre !!) of meths over their 6 day hike because their stove is so fine tuned.... is just talking out their ars**e.
Hammocks rule: check out his other video of camp stove with long tube that removes fuel reservoir away from burner. You can fill while burning! Less flimsy and very stable looking base.
Pushpins are great for uniformity just make sure they go in straight. Sucks when everything is perfect and then one little flame shoots out slightly too far or at a different angle than the rest.
This is awesome, so light weight, should be in ever survival kit, I know diy oil burners for heat are made from the same deign so I suspect it should burn of anything flammable, used oil, diesel kerosene, methyl hydrate...
Its good for alcohol, not so good for petrol. While it will work with petrol, the flame gave off so much soot that its barely usable flame. But hey! It gave a lot of heat and light with petrol so there is that.
Nice clear video. Instead of holding the cut can with a cloth, you can use one of those neoprene soda/beer can cozies that fit over the can exactly. You can drill the holes before cut the ring off when the can is a little stiffer. You can use smaller energy-drink cans (8.4-ounce Red Bull, for instance, instead of standard 12-ounce soda can) or larger cans like 16-ounce Rockstar or 24-ounce malt liquor (Olde English 800, Colt 45, King Cobra) if you want a smaller or bigger stove. The larger cans have noticeably thicker aluminum walls, so they are little harder to cut but sturdier once assembled.
Just made one of these and felt the need to say thank you for putting together such a well edited and clearly narrated guide. All the best from the UK.
You are a genius!! As if the first generation werent good enough, now you improved it! Thank you for taking the energy to share. Consider putting a disclaimer about the hazard in handling razor-sharp metal.
Does everything need a warning label though.. what about the one for RUclips that tells you there are people like me here? lol.
The "music" brings back painful memories of being stuck on a level of Wolfenstein and not being able to find a way out. The beauty of a soda can stove is that it's free -- until you add tape. Cut the cans longer, slip one inside the other and you're back to free.
steal the tape from the hardware store and you're back to free
Get caught and you can teach stove making to the cop (constable on patrol) that's watching your cell.
@@quantanglement +1 for teaching me that constable on patrol bit.. amazing I've never heard that before.
To be honest i'm not sure if that is where cop comes from - just heard it from someone else. But, seems like it could be.
@@quantanglement grrrrrrrrr hahaha bright idea
Very nice. I counted about 10 - 12 seconds from starting to full stable burn. That will save loads of fuel that was wasted on the original design just trying to warm up.
👍👍👍👍
I finished mine ! I'll test it after I get another blood transfusion from my fingers cuttings and loss of blood, now im convinced to bring my kitchen stove on my next camping trip.
Use 1/32 drill bit or if you prefer larger finger drains use 1/16 drill bit. Despite the 1980 Casio Synthesizer music and a laundry list of safety hazards, this is a great video on a very simple and useful product. Full disclosure, my dad drilled straight through his finger fixing a Christmas tree stand with these techniques... looked at me through the hole in his bone/nail. Love that man!
Does it have a use besides a hobo dinner? Say, in a power outage, is it ok for a heater or a lamp?
One small tip, when you're drilling the vent holes in the top don't have your finger on the inside of the can while youre drilling on the outside or you might wind up with a "vented" finger.
With capillary action.
All fingers were harmed in the making of this stove
use sand paper to dull the cut edges.
Could I use beer cans, different music, & maybe not drill into my fingers?😜.. still cool tho👍
Always drill directly toward your finger
Alright
Stop when you see red fluid.
I like drilling directly toward my finger 💉
Or your eye... Depends on the situation.
@@cynthiamoon372 Dont be daft. Thats just the coolant to protect the drill bit!
After I inadvertently sliced off most of my fingertips & drilled holes into the remaining ones, this stove was handy & efficient for cauterization. Mama always said, "What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger." This is why she always said that.
LOL
The men want to criticize and make him do to their way. The women just get in there and do it. 😄 Great comment.
Nietzsche said it first, but yo mama must have been well read.
Awesome. With fire lighting illegal in Britain, I've been looking for alternatives to a big, dumb butane cooker for my travelling kit.
This seems a sensible primary for making a brew or a quick bacon butty.
Perfect for my needs👍
You're living in a dystopia
@@shatterpointgamesThe Minneapolis police beat a homeless man who was lighting small fires in a parking garage to keep warm. We're all living in a dystopia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also made that design...but if you fill half full on it....it will take a half a minute before flames goes out ....its fine I love that new improved design. Keep up the good work! God bless
the yellow flames are proof that the fuel isn't burning efficiently. I like the penny stove it seems to be one of the best. my grands and I made the card board and wax and cardboard and oil they seemed to be very close to the same in cooking time we did a little experiment on that one with 2 different fuels and made hot chocolate. still cool experiments and all will boil water and cook something to eat. great job thanks for sharing.
Probable the capillarity effect of the groove's in the inner can are too much,* sucking more fuel than is possible mix with air.
* Maybe if make less groove's help.
one more thing...so glad there is someone teaching how to do these things, when TSHTF people need to know how to survive with what they can find. This is not just for campers. Good job
What are TSHTF people? I know how to survive in the wild but I'm not familiar with that acronym.
Made one of these after following your instructions, works a treat, thank you!
Great vid! To get all thre creases out of the metal tape and get a perfect seal use the backing paper from the tape to rub the tape down. Gently obviously! Works perfect. Duct fitters trick 😉
Ahh. Nice
FOR SAFETY:
Use second can for bottom (3/4 ").
(No sharp edge hazard)
using a tall and a short can ie energy drink can and cola you get a size difference so one can will slide inside the other so you don't need the foil and it is stronger.
💯 % agree!
3:42 That slight collapse of the can wall is why you should do all scoring first, then seperate the sections after all scoring is done.
I want to describe a stove that I made after several years of R&D, for you. It was based upon your own design. I needed power and longevity of burn time for the outdoors. I needed to make Coffee, breakfast and hot water after that on one burn. Yet remain lite and compact to carry easily in my cook set. My stove is well over 45 min of burn time, usually about 54min burn time. I used a large sized , used Sterno canister for the base. I brazed in a smaller (you can JB weld this) a taller can upside down with the original top removed and fuel vanes added for flow down inside. The inside can ( heated pressurized fuel reservoir) is basically sealed once the pot or pan is placed on top. I packed the inbetween space with fiberglass insulation to the top level of the Sterno base can. The final part was to drill a 1/8th fill hole in the top of the braised center can bottom (which is now the top) to add fuel. This acts as the huge fuel tank , and low pressure heat expansion chamber. Of course the fiberglass is the flame ring just like your "Feest" stove and the principal is the same. However, the fuel volume is massive and there is an inherent preheat and charge with this design that acts more like a natural gas burner in efficiency and burn time. I have other alcohol stoves just like you. However, this is my go to must have HOG burner that out cooks all others for time and efficiency.
I wish you would make a short video for us to show your model, too. Sounds powerful!
@@romainejayne1811 it's easy to make it. My stove design is also around 50 min of burn time. I just need 1 tuna can. I put the carbon felt first (or u can use toilet paper or jeans) to the bottom as the first layer. Then I give steel wool above as the second layer. Cover it on top with the iron mesh. I don't need JB weld or tape adhesive for my stove. I just need mini pot stand to boil or to cook.
If I cook the rice, I put my simmer ring on top, to reduce the flame.
@@poutchiepuffin4266 I already bought my mesh but haven't made my stove yet. I leaned off using the carbon felt. Steel wool and jeans mat'l. lol Except my mesh is soft stainless steel and probably won't last long.
Great video, got here from Kenneth Kramm's video. He made, and uses this stove all the time, and it's great. I'm going to make this, and I appreciate your effort.
Very well done, instructional video from start to finish. I like the use of tape instead of ole JB Weld. Can't wait to build a few. THANKS.
So I just spent the last four hours watching stove videos. I decided I wanted to build a stove and I made this one. This one gets up and running within a few seconds. I watched a video where some guy made his version of the double wall can stove. Then he lit it and spent three minutes saying how awesome his stove was while he was waiting for it to warm up. This was a fun project. I've still got ten more cans of coke, I wonder what else I can make.
the razor blade hangs out pretty far allowing it to flex, giving you some unclean cuts, putting them a bit further back on the board might help you with that.
yep and while at it use a 2nd screw to keep it in place instead of ur thumb ;p
Two screws in the nicks allow you to swap out the blade easily as well, loosen, replace, retighten.
Use a heavy book and sandwich the blade between the pages at the correct height(s): no boards, no screws.
@@harveychapman3843 Best advice!
@@harveychapman3843 amazing advice.
That video game music is almost as cool as the stove and the stove is very cool. Props!
I just made one of these, first one I made off another video and it won't light, this one worked great, I already put it with my emergency coffee maker, in case the power gos out. Going to make some more of these for cooking to. Thanks man!
I might try this just because it's cool. What do you think, would it be any easier to cut the can if it was filled with water and allowed to freeze first. Then you'd have something to push against and maybe cut through the aluminum completely. I think I might give it a try.
+Left of Everywhere That may work too by freezing but if you don't want to go to the trouble with the blocks of wood, you can use dollar store scissors and just a utility knife, a few of my prototypes were made that way and they came out great. The cans cut super easy.
Very good idea
Awesome , I like the whole deal where it burns nicer and more efficient, medal tape has some goo glue type stuff , idk if I’d cook over it until atleast burning off that glue but really is cool 😎
Great design, great video, dreadful music
Delightful Douschebaggery Yes I agree
Must agree
Utterly agree....tht music was vexing to the core 😫😫😫
Still not as ugly as your thumbnail.. Lol
The music is awesome.
Thank you for your contributions to soda can stove R & D 😎👍
Finally! a use for diet Pepsi.
haha
I thought all diet sodas were for target practice
hahahaha that's the best use I have heard for diet sodas!
Iacomus Lycanthropus Fd
Diet Coke is VERY unhealthy more unhealthy than regular coke so DONT drink it
I actually have a decent tip here! A can opener will take off the top of a soda can with no sharp edges. You can fit a smaller hydroponic basket in the top doing that as well. Also, gloves are helpful you loon (but thanks for the solid instructional vid)
A little commentary along the way is much more informative talking about the steps, anything else like music I would rather turn on my Stereo.
So many different designs. I did build a lot of versions around the time this video was made and my testing show the basis of the 3 part stove to be the most efficient. But the one I settled on was a very simple 3 piece design. Where the top pressed onto the bottom with a simple inner wall. No silver tape required.
The inner wall has any functional purpose, or is it there just for a longer lifespan? Y want to test a stove like this one here
I’ve also encountered this problem where the flame wasn’t coming out of the original one and turns out If you just make the holes bigger it works
That’s a good demonstration of cutting a soda bottle that’s Excellent.
It's a great idea, but may not work as well in cold temperatures. that was my experience with the penny soda can stove. The open center may make the difference though. Definitely worth testing!
Brian Wall my cousin made one for his deer blind and put it in a terra-cotta pot! And he is in Michigan! It heats up the pot and produces more heat. He said it actually roasted him out last night!
Thank you utube .and the man who share this great idea
Instructions - A+
Music - F-
cmon musik is kewl
@@clpevyNil F*cking Gen Z hipster EDM noise.
(Not a boomer)
Very ratchet and clank
beeeeowoooow deeeo beoow beeewoweo dun dun nanan da duh dun nu uh.
@@scottdunn2178 it's D grade not F grade wtf
I've seen many videos on RUclips but I like your video and also make just like you. Good job 👌👌👌
Nice video! I was going on an overnight hiking trip with the college in 2005 and wanted something to cook my evening meal on. I would up buying one much like the first design from Tinny at Minibull Design. For my $5 he included a video on how to make them. I tested it, liked it, and set to work making some more. Wound up selling one to a classmate... for $5. Stove worked great and all I had to buy was the metal flue tape. I'll try your design for my next one. :)
What are other fuels you can use?
At 8:55 or so I just knew when the drill bit went through the can the next thing we would see is a fountain of blood, lol. Cool video man!
This stove is so cool that I am going to watch it again and again
Feels like I'm rollin through the hood, making a camp stove. ;-)
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Awesome video! Great detail and easily replicable by watcher!! Great Job!!
This is great..thanks for showing how to cut the can!!!
You should put amounts and burn times. Also what fuels burn best and longest.
more burnable holes more amount burnt.unless he could make vaporized fuel like normal gas tanks
Denatured alcohol
@@garymckinley6974 illegal in California
@@asamusicdude I didn't know that, no wonder I don't see it anymore.
@@garymckinley6974 your freaking kidding!
Everyone commenting on getting cut on the aluminum edges probably haven't handled cut aluminum much. It's is a slicing hazard only if you are sliding your hand across the cut surface. Pressure straight down will not likely result in a cut even if you are pounding your hand down on it. I know, I demonstrated this to some naysayers by repeatedly slamming my hand on a cut can edge and showing no penetration. AnywAY! Great Video, Nice to show every step. I don't miss the lack of instruction, your actions showed everything and there were no words to confuse the issue. I could show this to any friend who speaks another language and they could follow this easily. The music was epically intense for the video, LOL. I felt like I was in a drama. Anyway, I"ve made a few cans before seeing this. I see this has more steps, and I can see why. I will try it. I like the way it looks and how it works.
great video, it looks easier and more efficient that others, the music sounds like from a porno.
Very nice beautiful stove
Neat, still prefer putting steel wool in the walls to help wick.
Fill the can with sand and then cut with the razor scribe. Makes for easier, cleaner, faster, safer cuts especially if you are making a dozen or so at a time.
great video but as a Mother, I had butterflies in my stomach watching this PRAYING you wouldn't get cut! lol! Good job Andrew
if the issue is only the preheating of the stove, adding the very common fiberglass wick to the outside is awesome for that. Speeds up blossoming of the stove. I preheat all alcohol stoves, and it's undoubtedly the way to go.
You can also use a can lid or just a bit of foil honestly, to hold fuel under the burner and preheat it.
Doesn't the fuel eventually affect the glue on the tape?
Capi Berra metal tape is rated for high temps.
I made one using aluminium tape rated for 160 degrees Celsius. I got some initial leakage from the glue on the first burn but after that it was fine.
Get UL Listed hvac foil tape for best results
Two weeks later (and many burns as well) no problems, this thing will light with even a small spark from a ferro rod.
Although one lesson learnt was if you plan to use this stove make sure your pan is as dry as possible, if it isn't completely hold it over the flame for a few minutes then wipe away water that appears on the bottom, your efficiency will be severely effected if you don't.
he didnt say heat and high temps he said the fuel.
Not having seen the previous build, what's
'the breakthrough that makes the newer design burn so much better?
The concept is ok but You know you can avoid using aluminum tape by letting the top side longer so that they come together one inside the other, keep trying. 👍
doesn't work, it's too tight and messes up the middle layer (i tried this)
@@escapetherace1943 Well you need to try again cause i just slided top side inside bottom side and mine works perfectly. Btw, its my first soda can alcohol stove. Newbie luck prehaps? :D
@@fulldnbboy it burns out fuel way too fast anyway and most the heat's wasted. The tuna can stove designs work a lot better
All this sheet metal cutting and bending using bare hands and no cuts in your fingers, wow.
Listening to this video makes me feel like I'm exploring a haunted house and zapping monsters with a level 1 blaster.
The capillary modification should result in better cold weather performance. I'm tempted to 3D print a corrugator to make 1/4" pitch folds in can sidewall aluminum to use as a capillary inner wall in a pop can stove made from two can bottoms pressed together (no metal tape).
When your dish towel isn’t working and you need to grab a sharp piece of thin metal, feel free to wear gloves.
Drilling toward your finger is not only foolish, but is also another great opportunity to wear gloves.
Using gloves while opperating power tools is an even worse idea.. just Google- glove caught in (and then insert whatever power tool) and watch the carnage...
The flames look like they're dancing. Great video. Next step is how to create controllers to turn up/ down the flame. I would of loved to see you put out the flame safely.
The only way that would work is to have the alcohol pressurized, running past a control valve or else use a wick.
can it work with other types of fuel like naphtha
Very nice Alcohol Stove. Enjoyed your video.
Forget about rhe background music..... Focus on the procedure... i love soda can survival stove... I've use it on my camping party and for an emergency Cooking ...👍
This is the best video yet.
Good Lord. This sounds like The Spice Channel from the 1980s. 😉
You. Absolute. Madman.
do you have to have the pan above it setting on a rack?
Bad ass craftsman skills🦅😬
🤔Don’t know why he just didn’t extend the top to go over the bottom which would have taken the metal tape out of the equation but to each his own
I really liked watching the flame at the end, it was like the flame was dancing to the music.
Do you set the pot directly on the stove or do you need something to put the pot on?
AJ Saveliev You set the pot directly on the stove. Otherwise the large flame coming out of the center consumes too much fuel. The outer jets will continue to burn.
No you do not set the pot directly on the stove. I have used this set up for years for backpacking. Initially I used 3 tent stakes to hold the pot over the stove, sometimes not the sturdiest. I also tried just finding appropriate sized rocks, not always easy or possibly. More recently I fashioned a pot holder out of a bit of stove-pipe coupling. Works good
Setting a small backpacking pot directly on top seems to be too close in my experience. I bought a small pot and stand combo by Esbit that can burn solid fuel tabs and is just the right size to fit one of these DIY alcohol can stoves. CS585HA model number. The can stove fits in the package for storage quite nicely and the stand has pretty good wind protection for the flame as well. Great for single person very light weight and small volume stove. Sterno stove bases are pretty commonly available at department stores, etc.
If concerned about covering the center, could cut out a bottom section of another can to fit over it while burning.
You can do either. I like to set the pot right on top with Penny cans. The double wall ones I use a pot stand.
OHHH man you topped the original design..⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Just wondering how long it burns. Is it re-useable...or just one time and then dispose? Do you need to put it on fire resistant surface?
Absolutely reusable.
I test stoves by using them time after time.
I have three ultimate stoves i put through the wringer.
Original ultimate stove made from 2 Ocean Spray juice cans 500 burns
Made from 2 monster cans has 390 burns
Made from 2 Hansen energy drink cans with 350 burns
Instructions unclear dick cut on coke can
ooo a dick cut sounds horrible
so funny! lol lol hahahaheeheehee
@@mcgillicuddy4008 Men smh hahahaha
A seal between the top of the inner wall and the stove top, maybe? As I understand things, this would stop the pressure in the vapour chamber leaking to the stove centre/fill hole. A bit of your metal tape would do it.
How to add more fuel without dying or letting it flame out?
Remember years ago there was a japanese sounding guy who made these with pipes and vanes etc...all designed to increase the production of heat.
His stoves would whistle and roar( quietly,of course) with effort.
Well worth researching if you start getting into these simple but relatively efficient little stoves.
Remember to build 3 sizes...bigger the job, bigger the stove.
Nice&informative video! But Dude, this music freaks me out... :D
You know the metal tape may be metal but it's still glue that holds it in place, and glue is not immune to heat at all.
You're definitely right about the glue melting with the heat from the burning alcohol!
If you wanted this as an emergency backpack light/stove, how would you store the alcohol ?
Trangia stove stores liquid
That's already provided for in the 5th of JD he's got or should have with him.
The alcohol comes in plastic bottles right from the store. Just make sure you save the cap. ;)
@@Astro80s Store alcohol inside Trangia B25 burner can correde and produce cracks in the stove walls.
@@Sokol10 If you store on the shelf, then yes. If you are on the hike and have some leftover alcohol inside the stove after cooking, its not a problem to store it insid the trangia burner till your next meal time 3 hours later. Leave it on a shelf with alcohol, will obviously corrode it over time so burn last fuel off. Alcohol is cheap anyway.
I love the 70s style spy music!
I can almost see Ilya kuryaken or Simon Templar at work here...
I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I get a strong blue flame in the center and my pinholes around the edge never ignite.
jmaskdc sounds like the alcohol vapour isn't able to make it up to the pin holes. maybe try crushing the inner piece a bit more?
jmaskdc yeah me too, im trying to cook a pork roast im gonna cut thin before it goes bad too, hopefully Ill figure it out in a few minutes.
When cutting the stove bottom, fill the can will moist sand to maintain some strength to the walls
The 1/32 holes allow for a slower more controllable flame.
Never made one, never planned to, but I've known of them, particularly in lightweight applications like hiking the Appalachian Trail. Anyway, I just checked in to my hotel and decided to buy some water since usually urban hotel water is nasty. I spot a bottle Ive never seen. As soon as I pick it up I'm thinking, "Oh that's a nice bottle! You could make one of those stoves out of this thing!" It's called Heart Water. I've never seen it before. Nice aluminum purple bottle. I drank it and I must say it was tasty water! Then I'm inspecting the can in amazement at the shear amount of aluminum it contains. Not sure I'll try making a stove, but I'll probably keep the bottle and reuse it. I think anyone looking for a lot more rigidity for a very slight weight increase should try doing it with a Heart Water bottle. Seriously. Pick one up and you'll see what I mean! Thanks for the video. It was enjoyable to watch. Next time boil some water though...
You might like to check out a new design I've posted with internal and external flame jets. It works best with ethanol, doesn't need priming, so heats from the moment it's lit, doesn't need a pot stand and allows easy retrieval of unburnt fuel for later use. It also works well with charcoal
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The one on the right doesn't have complete combustion hense the orange flame but it does start more quickly.
I made one of these last night but it's taking forever to cook my turkey.
That's like trying to cook a turkey with Esbit or canned heat. Not a good idea. Besides you need a full size oven and not a stove for something like that.
Takes bout a gallon of alcohol to burn all the feathers off.
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Get your turkeys right out of the egg, eh?
Looks like your "improved" stove gets hot faster with less efficiency. The orange flame is unburned carbon. It's like a choke on a carburetor making the fuel/air mixture richer. The problem is you don't disengage the choke after your up to operating temperature. The result will be continued inefficient burning (wasted fuel).
music gave me a headache had to mute. rather hear the tools at work
I like the music it sounds original and could be used in a scary movie!
Starter
It gave me a knee pain
My lower, right tricuspid began to throb....and left eye started twitching maddeningly... I was perplexed by the mesmerizing, and as of yet unknown neurological fingernails-clawing-down-a-chalkboard affect on my psyche. The music did, in fact suck.....the vid, however, was rad. IMHO.
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You must get scared easily. LOL!
wao nice sharing ............ love from my workshop............
I've watched a number of videos about making similar alcohol stoves and it goes without saying that most claim their particular configuration is an "improved model" when compared to other designs. From my perspective, it seems that when using the same amount of identical fuel you are limited to a theoretically finite and consistent BTU output regardless of how the stove is configured. Yes, some stoves may take less time to reach a "bloom" point after an initial "flare" but are they really generating more heat? Typically these alcohol stoves are designed with either an "open top" similar to the ones in this video or a "closed top" such as the widely made "penny can stoves." If one places a pot or other container more or less 3/4 of a inch above a penny can stove as soon as it is lit thereby immediately directing all flame to the bottom of a container how is it that you are mystically losing some large amount of useable heat? I'm not being a contrarian but those who claim that this or that design represents a genuinely "improved" model should offer more empirical evidence to support such statements
I would likewise note that from a safety standpoint I think that the "open top" stoves are potentially more dangerous than the "closed top" models. Should an "open top" stove be inadvertently knocked over, it would appear that there is a greater danger of fire from spilled fuel. Conversely, while a "closed top" stove may, indeed, lose some fuel a reduced amount of lost alcohol would result in at least a lesser chance of an unwanted fire.
Good points. If the burn time is too long then it gives the cooking pot more time to bleed heat to the outside world, too fast and a lot of the heat shoots past the pot and is lost. There is a happy medium but the exact set up changes daily in the field. Add to the issue "what to do with the little fuel left after the pot comes to the boil" further muddies the water. Worrying over a 5 min boil or an 8 min boil seems silly to me. I would much rather have an 8 minute boil time and a bit of fuel left over then it to burn faster and use all the fuel before getting to a boil. Waiting for it to cool so I can top it up and then finish the boil is a big no no for me. By the way, if anyone is going to say that they only need to carry 879ml ( not a whole one litre !!) of meths over their 6 day hike because their stove is so fine tuned.... is just talking out their ars**e.
Hammocks rule: check out his other video of camp stove with long tube that removes fuel reservoir away from burner. You can fill while burning! Less flimsy and very stable looking base.
Great stove build thanks
Would a push-pin work for the holes instead of a drill?
I've done it that way successfully. For smaller holes I used a short needle that I'd imbedded into a wood handle
I've done it both ways. little effect on efficiency of the stove, drill is way easier
Pushpins are great for uniformity just make sure they go in straight. Sucks when everything is perfect and then one little flame shoots out slightly too far or at a different angle than the rest.
I used a drywalling screw worked great.
This is awesome, so light weight, should be in ever survival kit, I know diy oil burners for heat are made from the same deign so I suspect it should burn of anything flammable, used oil, diesel kerosene, methyl hydrate...
Its good for alcohol, not so good for petrol. While it will work with petrol, the flame gave off so much soot that its barely usable flame. But hey! It gave a lot of heat and light with petrol so there is that.
Overly technical for making a stove from a can, Good video though, the music gotta go.
Really well made I’m impressed I must try this thanks