@@InsanoRider777 You assume the average FFXIV player likes the trust system lol. I would of used it this expansion but I neglected it since ShB despite loving the idea.
Can’t help but hum this whenever I’m doing my experts… the motif thing is just so catchy and always seems to pop up when mechanics are happening. ^~^ love it
They're both thematically different, i think. On Blade's Edge is dark desperation, 'can't lose this' type beat. DT's is a more classic adventure midboss theme, sounds more like it's trying to convey 'new, majestic, yet dangerous creatures'. If you take into consideration that DT is Wuk Lamat's story and not the WoL's, the desperate, yet bright, sounds fit well, too.
A certain Lv 94 solo instance with this theme playing in the background was extremely epic. Honestly all the solo instances have been some of the best solo instances in the game.
Bakool Ja Ja’s confidence and bravado devolving into panicked desperation while Wuk Lamat continues to be the GOAT with this song playing was actual peak.
@@RobdeliaYT While it was undeniably epic, it just really makes no sense she's suddenly able to bully him when she couldn't even graze him a couple days prior, let alone defeat him
@@silque_brigandess Counterpoint, she was uncertain, lacking resolve then. She wanted to hurt him, but did not have the resolve to follow through no matter the cost to herself. This time she was fucking *DONE* . Bakool had loosed one of the greatest calamities to befall Tural for his own benefit and threatened her biological father with death. She learned and grew after the last incident, and while it hadn't been long, one's own insecurities can REALLY hold you back. She probably wasn't putting everything she had into it the first time, despite saying so, because she *felt* inferior at the time.
Took me to lv98 bit I just realized there is not a designated Solo Duty theme in Dawntrail. Honestly I think thay really speaks to how amazing the quality of this and the dungeon boss theme are that I didn't notice/care about that.
@@senounatsuru6453Also Dynamis lmao. Like very clearly Lamaty'i was supercharged on Emotion Power there! ('specially considering how quick she was generating LB.. She was PISSED.)
The time has come yet again to guess the composer/arranger. With the style of percussion and the bassline/ostinato in mind, I guess it's Takafumi Imamura. A little difficult for this one since it's not heavily guitar-based like in Endwalker, which is what Imamura usually likes to do. It could be Daiki Ishikawa but the dungeon boss theme sounds more like his style.
@@VioletMaeve I think a few of the city/area themes in Dawntrail are Soken. And because I've heard the music already, I'm pretty sure the 2nd and 3rd trials are Soken's music as well. Not entirely sure for the 2nd trial but pretty confident for the 3rd trial. And from what little we heard in the live letter, the music for the first turn of the raid is most likely Soken as well.
Wait a sec, what was I thinking? This can't be Imamura. I think this is that one track that Yoshitaka Suzuki said he arranged. I expected something "grander" (like final boss theme or at least one of the trials) but I guess he's only doing a midboss theme this time.
Don't agree with people saying both themes should have been switched. I think they are at their right place. Even though this one may look more epic, the other one is more dramatic for a final boss.
Agreed. This one feels like you're jumping into the fray with something dangerous, but not a particularly important foe. The other theme has more grandeur and you can feel the weight of the importance of that fight.
Agreed. Some people said the same thing in Endwalker but the themes all in their proper places. The midboss themes are supposed to be quick and yet somewhat tense but don't have so much of dynamics. The boss themes carry much more tension, as shown with both Endwalker and Dawntrail where the intros immediately build up the tension, with a lot more dynamics going on in the pieces.
I agree with you and others here. People keep saying that for every expansion, they don't get that the final boss of the dungeon is suppose to be tense and threatening. The "hype" theme has always been the midboss because that's the one where it's more about bashing bosses and the last one is the "fate is sealed here" kind of moment.
@@silque_brigandess To be fair, you would be correct. If they wanted to, they could of swapped it but it was left as it was due to wanting to update the mid-boss theme as it was the same since before ShB. They reused the ShB Insatiable remix they did for the collab with Dissidia Final Fantasy NT, which the game fully cancelled now and it wasn't the composers of NT that made it, they slapped it over the mid-boss themes of ShB. I do agree it should of been flipped, but I guess we can't now.
It's getting on me more and more, I was already loving it at release but now each time I'm listening to it, I say the same : clearly the best midboss theme of all FFXIV!
@@CojaGamez I think the Teddy Bears of Doom are worse - because the hitboxes are deveptive. The problem with the blob in Alexandria is it really punishes you for lagging.
The reason I love this song is because it fits so well with what happens in Dawntrail's story. It has a hint of despair, mixed with hope. It feels like as if the odds are against you, as if all hope is lost, but you're the one who can save everyone, you're the last hope.
'Repeatedly sees people in 97 and 99 dungeons still using augmented credendum gear or worse lunar envoy gear' those same people are constantly dying and trying to blame anyone else for their own shortcomings and failures. Had the 1st boss of the 99 dungeon take nearly an hour one time while trying to finish leveling my DRG because the healer wasn't trying to dodge the poison puddles and kept instantly exploding from a single tap
Classic FF is back, this is what FF should be. Don't get me wrong, I kinda liked the overuse of rock music in the last few expansions but this is just a return to wonderful classic boss music.
I like On Blade's Edge but people just gas that up because it has guitar. This theme fits the dungeon fights so much better probably the best midboss theme to date tho i really liked Persistance too (especially since it's basically an edited version of 1.0 Phantoms on the Lake by Uematsu lol). The rock themes are less fitting. This track also sounds massive when playing it on my main music speakers.
To me this theme is excitement incarnate. is there anything dire going down? nah. is it dangerous? sure is! is Wuk Lamat here with you to break shit with you? Sure is!! The song never fails to get me hype!
Music is amazing, but like others, this should’ve been the final boss music and the final boss music currently should be the mid-boss music. This is glorious final battle music.
They should save this for the Tree mob you run into after the Punitiy. I survived 2 shots from 1st boss as a healer with HQ diadochos gear but the AoE from the tree mob one shot me the first time i did the trust dungeon. Trees are more dangerous than Punitiys
Is it just me or THIS should be the last boss theme and the last boss theme should be mid boss theme? Cuz that's the first time I like the mid boss theme better than the final boss one. 😂
I felt the same way at first but then eventually just came to the conclusion that they are both epic and worthy!!! We get this theme twice a dungeon, that makes me happy😊
I think the last dungeon boss theme instrumentation works better for the second half end bosses more than this would. Although I do vastly prefer this as a song in general. This is easily one of my favorite, if not the favorite, dungeon boss theme out ofnall expacs.
Okay I don’t remember these dungeons. Why is that???? Is this new content? Or what…. I beaten Dawntrail but honestly do not remember some of these fights. Wow.
Definitely my least favorite boss theme, feels a little uninspired and kind of ruins the mood hard on the first 100 dungeon, that being said it has some okay parts and the ending of the loop is genuinely nice, also the WoL leitmotif is incorporated pretty well, not bad but a bit bland
It's not BAD - I'd call it great in any other MMORPG - but when it comes to the standards set by the past two expansions, it just sounds so... Generic?
@@SirRafarga This has nothing to do with the story. Its the soundtrack I'm having a beef with. They could've used some latin beats followed with some bongos, the whole tech beat doesn't really groove all that well with the setting and my god does the main theme hurt my ears. "TIME!... TO RIP OFF MY GODDAMN EARS!"
It's an okay story in my opinion, some places in the story were boring, other times it picked up. It's not the best expansion released but it's a good building place for the future. Can't say much on the side content yet, haven't got around to it. There's some beautiful scenery in each zone, that's all I'll really say about it
Uvi clutching up DT queues by playing a healer at launch. Thank you for your service o7
And Astrologian too. Much respect lol
My brother and I play tank and healer to avoid queues in the new expansion lol it's pretty great
Ive only played a healer so far in this expansion. Dps is not worth the long queue times.
I mean, Duty Support is a thing, but y'all would rather wait 90 minutes for maybe a 15 minute run instead of spend 25 minutes with the CPU.
@@InsanoRider777
You assume the average FFXIV player likes the trust system lol. I would of used it this expansion but I neglected it since ShB despite loving the idea.
Can’t help but hum this whenever I’m doing my experts… the motif thing is just so catchy and always seems to pop up when mechanics are happening. ^~^ love it
I can't decide if this is my favorite, or On Blade's Edge. They're both so good in such different ways.
They're both thematically different, i think. On Blade's Edge is dark desperation, 'can't lose this' type beat. DT's is a more classic adventure midboss theme, sounds more like it's trying to convey 'new, majestic, yet dangerous creatures'.
If you take into consideration that DT is Wuk Lamat's story and not the WoL's, the desperate, yet bright, sounds fit well, too.
@@simj202This is exactly how best to enjoy Dawntrail, It’s Wuk Lamat’s story and you’re just along for the ride!
@@sable7571 This, for real. It's so refreshing to have the story focus on a different main character.
@@TheIonGamesI’m so relieved to see some positivity regarding Wuk Lamat for once!
@@muffetmissulena6540 She's not perfect, but watching her grow on her journey and not just ask us to do everything for her is nice.
This song fits pretty well. It captures a feeling of terror, but also a slight sense of majesty
It's like a hunt in a beautiful location...
Actually, that's just Monster Hunter lol
This theme was just whatever for me at first, but it's definitely grown on me. I love the frantic energy in the strings at the beginning!
The Name of the music is roads forsaken if you want to have It in orchestrion roll for you’re house its a loot from Treasure map
Or marketboard?
Just a little hint of the gift of life leitmotif that appears everywhere I love it
Man I love this bit 1:07 , works so well with some of the expert dungeon bosses
i love how they included a snippet of Torn from the Heavens at 0:23
A certain Lv 94 solo instance with this theme playing in the background was extremely epic.
Honestly all the solo instances have been some of the best solo instances in the game.
Bakool Ja Ja’s confidence and bravado devolving into panicked desperation while Wuk Lamat continues to be the GOAT with this song playing was actual peak.
@@RobdeliaYT While it was undeniably epic, it just really makes no sense she's suddenly able to bully him when she couldn't even graze him a couple days prior, let alone defeat him
@@silque_brigandess Counterpoint, she was uncertain, lacking resolve then. She wanted to hurt him, but did not have the resolve to follow through no matter the cost to herself.
This time she was fucking *DONE* . Bakool had loosed one of the greatest calamities to befall Tural for his own benefit and threatened her biological father with death. She learned and grew after the last incident, and while it hadn't been long, one's own insecurities can REALLY hold you back. She probably wasn't putting everything she had into it the first time, despite saying so, because she *felt* inferior at the time.
Took me to lv98 bit I just realized there is not a designated Solo Duty theme in Dawntrail. Honestly I think thay really speaks to how amazing the quality of this and the dungeon boss theme are that I didn't notice/care about that.
@@senounatsuru6453Also Dynamis lmao. Like very clearly Lamaty'i was supercharged on Emotion Power there! ('specially considering how quick she was generating LB.. She was PISSED.)
I find myself humming this at work A LOT. Such a good jam
The time has come yet again to guess the composer/arranger. With the style of percussion and the bassline/ostinato in mind, I guess it's Takafumi Imamura. A little difficult for this one since it's not heavily guitar-based like in Endwalker, which is what Imamura usually likes to do. It could be Daiki Ishikawa but the dungeon boss theme sounds more like his style.
Soken had everything made in Endwalker, so I'm assuming if we haven't heard Soken yet, he'll be later or in the raids. He's cooking up something.
@@VioletMaeve I think a few of the city/area themes in Dawntrail are Soken. And because I've heard the music already, I'm pretty sure the 2nd and 3rd trials are Soken's music as well. Not entirely sure for the 2nd trial but pretty confident for the 3rd trial. And from what little we heard in the live letter, the music for the first turn of the raid is most likely Soken as well.
Wait a sec, what was I thinking? This can't be Imamura. I think this is that one track that Yoshitaka Suzuki said he arranged. I expected something "grander" (like final boss theme or at least one of the trials) but I guess he's only doing a midboss theme this time.
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Don't agree with people saying both themes should have been switched. I think they are at their right place. Even though this one may look more epic, the other one is more dramatic for a final boss.
Agreed. This one feels like you're jumping into the fray with something dangerous, but not a particularly important foe. The other theme has more grandeur and you can feel the weight of the importance of that fight.
Agreed. Some people said the same thing in Endwalker but the themes all in their proper places. The midboss themes are supposed to be quick and yet somewhat tense but don't have so much of dynamics. The boss themes carry much more tension, as shown with both Endwalker and Dawntrail where the intros immediately build up the tension, with a lot more dynamics going on in the pieces.
You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is that ShB's themes should have been swapped.
I agree with you and others here. People keep saying that for every expansion, they don't get that the final boss of the dungeon is suppose to be tense and threatening. The "hype" theme has always been the midboss because that's the one where it's more about bashing bosses and the last one is the "fate is sealed here" kind of moment.
@@silque_brigandess
To be fair, you would be correct. If they wanted to, they could of swapped it but it was left as it was due to wanting to update the mid-boss theme as it was the same since before ShB. They reused the ShB Insatiable remix they did for the collab with Dissidia Final Fantasy NT, which the game fully cancelled now and it wasn't the composers of NT that made it, they slapped it over the mid-boss themes of ShB. I do agree it should of been flipped, but I guess we can't now.
I've grown to really like this boss music 😅
1:07 favorite part here (at least because it sets up the pace for the rest of the song)
This is easily the best Miniboss theme.
It used to be the shb one for me. But this takes the crown yeah
ABSOLUTELY!!
It's getting on me more and more, I was already loving it at release but now each time I'm listening to it, I say the same : clearly the best midboss theme of all FFXIV!
This track feels perfect for viper’s tempo
I hadn't been this pumped up for a battle theme in a good while
This mini-boss music goes as hard as dungeon final boss music.
For me, Blade Edge = This Mid Boss theme . Both are great, just different.
God this theme fits so well on the expert dungeon mini bosses as they are terrifying and intense mini bosses I faced in casual dungeons.
The teddy bears of doom.
@@TerestraszNot as bad as that stupid blob boss, the first one of the level 100 alexandria dungeon. I despise that thing
@@CojaGamez I think the Teddy Bears of Doom are worse - because the hitboxes are deveptive. The problem with the blob in Alexandria is it really punishes you for lagging.
@@Terestrasz ping issues would punish you just about anywhere, tbf...
@@whitenoised It's especially bad here.
The reason I love this song is because it fits so well with what happens in Dawntrail's story. It has a hint of despair, mixed with hope. It feels like as if the odds are against you, as if all hope is lost, but you're the one who can save everyone, you're the last hope.
As soon as I heard this track in the Benchmark, I was hoping it would be either the mid-boss or end boss theme.
I was not disappointed.
I can hit buttons to this all day
Ah yes, the theme song of "Three newbies watch as the stubborn WAR solos the boss for 15 minutes"
And succeeds
_Someone_ has to give the three newbies their dungeon clear.
Damn right, this the MAN MODE theme
@@MBOmnis It'd take less time for the tank to wipe and then try the boss again from scratch having a better grasp of the mechanics.
@@LZ02-OVERTURE Assuming the group doesn't wipe a second, third or fourth time, sure...
My humble Opinion: This is the best Midboss Track of the game ❤and I love Endwalkers Midbosstrack! But this is peak 🎶
I can just HEAR Barreltender hopping and posing to this.
Cant wait for 7.1 to hear it in the new MSQ dungeon! :D
All right, all right. I love the intro of this song. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
This and Pathmaker are awesome. They really get you engaged in the fight....not every XIV boss track does that.
Song really gives off that fresh "New Saga" feel.
This is the theme that we hear the most. They always make the last boss easier than the first two.
'Repeatedly sees people in 97 and 99 dungeons still using augmented credendum gear or worse lunar envoy gear' those same people are constantly dying and trying to blame anyone else for their own shortcomings and failures.
Had the 1st boss of the 99 dungeon take nearly an hour one time while trying to finish leveling my DRG because the healer wasn't trying to dodge the poison puddles and kept instantly exploding from a single tap
I can't wait until Uncle Jesse hears this one!
This song is the rage i feel in my head at all of the ways i've seen these dungeons go wrong already
This bgm fit so well with lv97 ID
Classic FF is back, this is what FF should be. Don't get me wrong, I kinda liked the overuse of rock music in the last few expansions but this is just a return to wonderful classic boss music.
Man this and the Endwalker boss themes slap so hard.
I wanna learn Astro cause it looks fun af
Here's your astro gameplay: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, card draw, repeat.
Nah, i’m on the ‘I think this boss theme suits the midboss’ boat.
I like On Blade's Edge but people just gas that up because it has guitar. This theme fits the dungeon fights so much better probably the best midboss theme to date tho i really liked Persistance too (especially since it's basically an edited version of 1.0 Phantoms on the Lake by Uematsu lol). The rock themes are less fitting. This track also sounds massive when playing it on my main music speakers.
God, I like this one much better than the final boss theme while On Blade's Edge and Finality I like equally.... peak midboss music
To me this theme is excitement incarnate. is there anything dire going down? nah. is it dangerous? sure is! is Wuk Lamat here with you to break shit with you? Sure is!! The song never fails to get me hype!
Yeah, I can hear a bit of ff9's battle theme in there.
I love the *almost* makers ruin you can here in this
Jammin'! Love it.
After coming from EW's "On Blade's Edge", this feels alright to me. Still haven't surpassed it tho.
Music is amazing, but like others, this should’ve been the final boss music and the final boss music currently should be the mid-boss music.
This is glorious final battle music.
First dungeon hearing this: What the, am I fighting for my life?!
Fourth dungeon hearing this: The stakes have never been higher! Pump me up Soken!
Makes me think of Jonny Quest for some reason.
When fighting on a pirate ship
They should save this for the Tree mob you run into after the Punitiy. I survived 2 shots from 1st boss as a healer with HQ diadochos gear but the AoE from the tree mob one shot me the first time i did the trust dungeon.
Trees are more dangerous than Punitiys
Is it just me or THIS should be the last boss theme and the last boss theme should be mid boss theme? Cuz that's the first time I like the mid boss theme better than the final boss one. 😂
me too
I felt the same way at first but then eventually just came to the conclusion that they are both epic and worthy!!! We get this theme twice a dungeon, that makes me happy😊
I think the last dungeon boss theme instrumentation works better for the second half end bosses more than this would.
Although I do vastly prefer this as a song in general. This is easily one of my favorite, if not the favorite, dungeon boss theme out ofnall expacs.
Everyone mentioning Blade’s Edge, but I’m sorry.
DT battle music > Blade’s Edge
I don’t know what it is about blades edge but I absolutely hated it
Agreed. It was awful. @@deefour28
I like this theme but it should be swapped with the final boss theme of the dungeon. Imo this fits better as that.
@@jonathank.1621I meant to say final boss theme of the dungeon. My b
💯 agree. Had the exact same thought doing the first Dawntrail dungeon
Hard disagree. The final boss theme firs where it is. It has a sense of finality to it where this one just comes off as intense.
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This theme slaps so damn hard, so glad I don’t have to listen to on blades edge anymore I hated that track
i don't think anything's gonna beat on blade's edge.
Okay I don’t remember these dungeons. Why is that???? Is this new content? Or what….
I beaten Dawntrail but honestly do not remember some of these fights. Wow.
These are the first two dungeons
Really not a fan of this one. It sounds like one of those "popular happy song but in minor key" videos
Agreed, though it's growing on me just a little. There have been better themes.
This song completely blows On Blade’s Edge out of the water.
Definitely my least favorite boss theme, feels a little uninspired and kind of ruins the mood hard on the first 100 dungeon, that being said it has some okay parts and the ending of the loop is genuinely nice, also the WoL leitmotif is incorporated pretty well, not bad but a bit bland
Metal Gear Solid?
It's not BAD - I'd call it great in any other MMORPG - but when it comes to the standards set by the past two expansions, it just sounds so... Generic?
... I gotta be honest... I don't really think Dawntrail is cooking with their soundtrack. Its not BAD by any means, but its just OKAY. At least to me.
It's absolutely 🔥Way better than Endwalker's
@@vinny4765 Fair enough. We all have our takes.
But in my opinion, I think you're more wrong than a palpanisian horse on a mudfield.
Give it some time, story needs to build up a apocalypse again lol
@@SirRafarga This has nothing to do with the story. Its the soundtrack I'm having a beef with.
They could've used some latin beats followed with some bongos, the whole tech beat doesn't really groove all that well with the setting and my god does the main theme hurt my ears. "TIME!... TO RIP OFF MY GODDAMN EARS!"
I couldn't disagree more. They cooked.
Once again, the music is the best part of an expansion of FF14. And this time it's not only because the music is good. The expansion just plain sucks.
The core dawntrail melody is so boring to me.
Boring theme for a boring expansion.
Womp womp Lil bro, go unsub and leave us be 😂
@@G-Manfromhalflife Touch grass urgently.
It's an okay story in my opinion, some places in the story were boring, other times it picked up. It's not the best expansion released but it's a good building place for the future. Can't say much on the side content yet, haven't got around to it. There's some beautiful scenery in each zone, that's all I'll really say about it
@zephyr8072 You first bro. You felt the need to hate, don't be mad when you get your balls busted for it.
Amen to that. It feels like playing ARR again. And this is not a compliment.