O👏 LYM 👏PIC 👏WEIGHT 👏LIFT 👏ING 👏SHOES👏 Say it with me, guys. If you’re going to explain what footwear is better for powerlifting, or just generally fitness, at least throw in a quick primer for your audience on what the purpose of that footwear actually is. Same reason you don’t want to run a marathon in Vibrams, the Olympic weightlifting shoe is a very movement specific, sport specific piece of equipment. I understand people often use these shoes for the purpose of masking or compensating for immobility in certain positions, but part of the problem is easily remedied when we parse out what things ARE intended for, and not just focusing on what you shouldn’t be utilizing in your training.
Weightlifting shoes are great for squats if you have unfavourable proportions in terms of leg and torso length. I for example need weightlifting shoes to be able to squat normally because my legs are very long and my torso is relatively short compared to my legs. Squat doesnt feel natural for me without weightlifting shoes that rise your heels about 2.5cm. I just have bad genetics and need these to make the most out of my squats.
I love my Olympic weight lifting shoes, i use them for squating, benching (so i can keep my foot flat and tucked back) and standing OHP for a very stable foundation, i use socks for deadlifts
*Weightlifting* shoes *add* extra range of motion that your knee has to travel through. It shortens the ankles range of motion. The lifted heels let you access a larger range of motion for both the knee and hip joint regardless of ankle mobility restrictions. Use weightlifting shoes to squat if you want a better squat. They are literally built for it. Weightlifting shoes are also a necessity if you want to take the snatch, clean, and jerk seriously.
If you have poor mobility you can put plates under your heels until you can do flat. You don’t need lifting shoes. Especially if you can’t even squat 315 😂
man.. the amount of infomation i get in past 1 years from this chanel is massive im at point like "hmm i need some info, gotta search at mind pump show first"
I use Jordan 1's and just take the stock insole out. Those things are as low to the ground as can be, and I can't believe people used to play basketball in them 😅😂
Found Nike zoom tr2 for weightlifting on thrift market near my house, im sure they didn't make this anymore. Its perfect for me since it dont have elevated heels. I dont like lifted heels I tried it yesterday and man its different, my squat are very stable and my lift goes up The "lift barefoot for more natural strength" doesnt make sense, if the shoes help you lift heavier then its good. You dont want to limit the amount of weight your body can lift simply because of your ankle or feet. Same with using straps in heavy deadlift. Dont let grip strength limiting your potential gainz
One of the reasons for shoes being pushed is Rippitoe. And there is no distinction between a squat shoe with a heel and a flat deadlift shoe in that world. Lots of Adidas Powerlift worn in an SS gym. I was coached my an SSC for close to a year. Shoes were mandatory.
@@sptz87 It feels fine. I hardly notice a difference when deadlifting with them, but I notice an extreme difference in stability/comfort when squatting with them (especially front squat). Pulling with them is more about just being lazy and the fact that making the lift 0.5% harder is probably that much better for you.
That's what I usually do as I'm too cheap to buy specialized shoes and have a home gym. I am looking to buy a pair though as I keep smashing my toes on things just walking around. I had chucks for awhile and they are pretty good, but you can buy a more specialized shoe that is even flatter with a better toe box for almost the same price. Chucks used to be super cheap and now they are ridiculously expensive for what you are getting. Wrestling and boxing boots are pretty solid choices too. I'm looking at the sabo deadlift pro's right now. About 100$ us vs like 50-60 for the chucks. Also the reebok power lite are supposed to be really good but kinda pricey at around 120-180$ if you can find them at all.
Great video. I’ve struggled with squats for years and just recently learned about weightlifting shoes. For way too long I was that guy in the gym squating with running shoes or cross trainers. Now I squat barefoot and feel much more planted with a good base to squat from. I thought about trying weightlifting shoes but considering those shoes are easily over $200, it’s a lot to spend for one exercise.
Looks for some budget weight lifting shoes or previous 1-2 year old models they are worth the investment for squats.. of course depending on how serious you take it. Nike Metcons are pretty decent ones too with a heel lift they are everyday trainer at the gym but not completely "lifting" shoes
Why does the 2nd guy keep calling them squat shoes? He says "that's why they are called squat shoes" but they are weightlifting shoes. Then goes on to recommend stupid chucks
@@getstrongby4038 there is a reason they are popular in the powerlifting world. The soles are thin, hard and pretty flat and they are relatively cheap (compared to actual dedicated lifting shoes) if you get them online. I've used them and they work pretty well and I haven't personally had any durability issues, even with my wide feet. And to be honest, at least imo, most lifting shoes look terrible. But you really only wear most of them to lift, especially heeled ones, so I don't see an issue. You aren't going to be jaunnting around town in your reebok power lites, or Adidas Adipowers. But many people, myself included, like the look of Chucks (the high tops anyway, not so fond of the lows) and it's nice to be able to wear them outside the gym.
1:38 that's BS. Olympic lifters regularly clean (= big deadlifts) with squat shoes. Maybe not ideal for PURE deadlifting but totally viable. All elite lifters train in them.
Yeah you can find video of guys doing 300kg+ deadlifts in squat shoes. It obviously makes sense for them because they compete in those shoes as well, but if you try pulling with squat shoes you'll quickly realize that it makes plenty of sense for normal people as well.
Converse! The way I see it, and this is outside of circumstances beyond ones control mind you, if lifting shoes are a must in order to get depth and/or stability, improving rang of motion and strengthening the areas of concern is what is a must. NOT shoes to compensate.
who you getting strong for? yourself. so who cares about technique and compensations as long as you get strong. Should people do mobility exercises? yes. should you do stretching like yoga? yes but its for yourself
Wrong. What puts the lifter at risk barefooted is not the weight or the foot. It's the hard flat surface and the specific effect it has on the mechanics of foot through the gait cycle. And while you may be thinking there is no gait cycle because you are still or in mid stance. You are still loading and activating the same muscles and tendons. Athletes have always fucked their feet up. Professional dancers as well. Barefoot on hard flat surfaces is a pathological endeavor. It's now readily apparent but insidious and incremental. Bare foot is fine on grass, the beach. Hard flat ground is clinically speaking the pathogen. If you want to strengthen the lower extremities squatting and dead lifting on somewhat softer mat if you must but if you really want to bullet proof the lower extremities then start jumping rope. BTW if you know a Veterinarian ask them what percentage of dogs in the city develop arthritis.
No real difference as neither offer much ankle support and you're really buying them for the flatter, harder thinner sole. I would say if you are pulling sumo maybe high tops just to get a little pressure on the ankles.
@@jayn8392 thanks for the detailed reply, I prefer the look of the high tops and already had a pair lying around so I've been using them in the gym for over a week now, was using Adidas UltraBoosts before lol
O👏 LYM 👏PIC 👏WEIGHT 👏LIFT 👏ING 👏SHOES👏 Say it with me, guys. If you’re going to explain what footwear is better for powerlifting, or just generally fitness, at least throw in a quick primer for your audience on what the purpose of that footwear actually is. Same reason you don’t want to run a marathon in Vibrams, the Olympic weightlifting shoe is a very movement specific, sport specific piece of equipment. I understand people often use these shoes for the purpose of masking or compensating for immobility in certain positions, but part of the problem is easily remedied when we parse out what things ARE intended for, and not just focusing on what you shouldn’t be utilizing in your training.
Deadlifting = Flat Soles
Squats = Heel Raises.
Bingo
Weightlifting shoes are great for squats if you have unfavourable proportions in terms of leg and torso length. I for example need weightlifting shoes to be able to squat normally because my legs are very long and my torso is relatively short compared to my legs. Squat doesnt feel natural for me without weightlifting shoes that rise your heels about 2.5cm. I just have bad genetics and need these to make the most out of my squats.
I love my Olympic weight lifting shoes, i use them for squating, benching (so i can keep my foot flat and tucked back) and standing OHP for a very stable foundation, i use socks for deadlifts
I do the same thing.
*Weightlifting* shoes *add* extra range of motion that your knee has to travel through. It shortens the ankles range of motion. The lifted heels let you access a larger range of motion for both the knee and hip joint regardless of ankle mobility restrictions. Use weightlifting shoes to squat if you want a better squat. They are literally built for it. Weightlifting shoes are also a necessity if you want to take the snatch, clean, and jerk seriously.
just do kinobody
If you have poor mobility you can put plates under your heels until you can do flat. You don’t need lifting shoes. Especially if you can’t even squat 315 😂
man.. the amount of infomation i get in past 1 years from this chanel is massive
im at point like
"hmm i need some info, gotta search at mind pump show first"
I use Jordan 1's and just take the stock insole out. Those things are as low to the ground as can be, and I can't believe people used to play basketball in them 😅😂
Poppycock! I squat with my Nike Air all the time.
😅
Found Nike zoom tr2 for weightlifting on thrift market near my house, im sure they didn't make this anymore. Its perfect for me since it dont have elevated heels. I dont like lifted heels
I tried it yesterday and man its different, my squat are very stable and my lift goes up
The "lift barefoot for more natural strength" doesnt make sense, if the shoes help you lift heavier then its good.
You dont want to limit the amount of weight your body can lift simply because of your ankle or feet. Same with using straps in heavy deadlift. Dont let grip strength limiting your potential gainz
One of the reasons for shoes being pushed is Rippitoe. And there is no distinction between a squat shoe with a heel and a flat deadlift shoe in that world. Lots of Adidas Powerlift worn in an SS gym.
I was coached my an SSC for close to a year. Shoes were mandatory.
How do you find shoes slight heel rise when deadlifting like the Adidas Powerlift 4/5?
@@sptz87 It feels fine. I hardly notice a difference when deadlifting with them, but I notice an extreme difference in stability/comfort when squatting with them (especially front squat). Pulling with them is more about just being lazy and the fact that making the lift 0.5% harder is probably that much better for you.
Would it still help if you have no problem with ur foot or ankle?
Yep, it gives you a more stable and flat base than barefoot.
Lems primal 2’s...basically no sole, fees like bare foot.
Basically, buy shoes! or just go "*FOOT*. I have my own equipment so going foot on friday.
I use boots my knees and ankles are shit plus i have no equilibrium 🤕
I just lift in hey dudes😂
So just do squats and deadlifts barefoot?
That's what I usually do as I'm too cheap to buy specialized shoes and have a home gym. I am looking to buy a pair though as I keep smashing my toes on things just walking around. I had chucks for awhile and they are pretty good, but you can buy a more specialized shoe that is even flatter with a better toe box for almost the same price. Chucks used to be super cheap and now they are ridiculously expensive for what you are getting. Wrestling and boxing boots are pretty solid choices too. I'm looking at the sabo deadlift pro's right now. About 100$ us vs like 50-60 for the chucks. Also the reebok power lite are supposed to be really good but kinda pricey at around 120-180$ if you can find them at all.
Any suggestions to help with squatting with flat feet? I usually go barefoot but it aint helping.
Put two 5kg plates at the heel of your foot . Works the same as these shoes
Great video. I’ve struggled with squats for years and just recently learned about weightlifting shoes. For way too long I was that guy in the gym squating with running shoes or cross trainers. Now I squat barefoot and feel much more planted with a good base to squat from. I thought about trying weightlifting shoes but considering those shoes are easily over $200, it’s a lot to spend for one exercise.
Looks for some budget weight lifting shoes or previous 1-2 year old models they are worth the investment for squats.. of course depending on how serious you take it. Nike Metcons are pretty decent ones too with a heel lift they are everyday trainer at the gym but not completely "lifting" shoes
You are not spending 200$ for one exercise. You are paying 200$ for your health or injury reduction (especially when you lack good mobility)
I will fix is answer. *yes Romaleo 2s or Anta's.
“Next question from née-ya’ll” 🤣🤣🤣
What are those shoes?
*Nacks kwashtian*
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Why does the 2nd guy keep calling them squat shoes? He says "that's why they are called squat shoes" but they are weightlifting shoes. Then goes on to recommend stupid chucks
He recommends chucks because they are super flat and are good if you have good foot strength.
@@chrischapman7026 they aren't even real shoes man they are such bad quality. And they look ridiculous
Raised heel for squats if you have ankle impingement like I do. Chucks for deadlifts,
@@getstrongby4038 there is a reason they are popular in the powerlifting world. The soles are thin, hard and pretty flat and they are relatively cheap (compared to actual dedicated lifting shoes) if you get them online. I've used them and they work pretty well and I haven't personally had any durability issues, even with my wide feet. And to be honest, at least imo, most lifting shoes look terrible. But you really only wear most of them to lift, especially heeled ones, so I don't see an issue. You aren't going to be jaunnting around town in your reebok power lites, or Adidas Adipowers. But many people, myself included, like the look of Chucks (the high tops anyway, not so fond of the lows) and it's nice to be able to wear them outside the gym.
@@jayn8392 I've just always just had a disliking for them, even as a kid way before knew about lifting I hated them lol 😆
1:38 that's BS. Olympic lifters regularly clean (= big deadlifts) with squat shoes.
Maybe not ideal for PURE deadlifting but totally viable. All elite lifters train in them.
Yeah you can find video of guys doing 300kg+ deadlifts in squat shoes. It obviously makes sense for them because they compete in those shoes as well, but if you try pulling with squat shoes you'll quickly realize that it makes plenty of sense for normal people as well.
@@justinharrison1987 Overhead squatting with the same weight is way more difficult than deadlifts.Oly lifters can happily make that sacrifice.
Yeah lol
Converse! The way I see it, and this is outside of circumstances beyond ones control mind you, if lifting shoes are a must in order to get depth and/or stability, improving rang of motion and strengthening the areas of concern is what is a must. NOT shoes to compensate.
who you getting strong for? yourself. so who cares about technique and compensations as long as you get strong. Should people do mobility exercises? yes. should you do stretching like yoga? yes
but its for yourself
Amen
When I swapped Converse in from my Nike air max 90s, I noticed a massive difference right away. The stability difference was day and night.
Why should ankle mobility be a limiting factor to best work the muscles that the squat targets?
Wrong. What puts the lifter at risk barefooted is not the weight or the foot. It's the hard flat surface and the specific effect it has on the mechanics of foot through the gait cycle. And while you may be thinking there is no gait cycle because you are still or in mid stance. You are still loading and activating the same muscles and tendons. Athletes have always fucked their feet up. Professional dancers as well. Barefoot on hard flat surfaces is a pathological endeavor. It's now readily apparent but insidious and incremental. Bare foot is fine on grass, the beach. Hard flat ground is clinically speaking the pathogen. If you want to strengthen the lower extremities squatting and dead lifting on somewhat softer mat if you must but if you really want to bullet proof the lower extremities then start jumping rope. BTW if you know a Veterinarian ask them what percentage of dogs in the city develop arthritis.
high top or low top chucks?
i think i’ll go w the low top just for aesthetics i don’t think there’s much of a difference
No real difference as neither offer much ankle support and you're really buying them for the flatter, harder thinner sole. I would say if you are pulling sumo maybe high tops just to get a little pressure on the ankles.
@@jayn8392 thanks for the detailed reply, I prefer the look of the high tops and already had a pair lying around so I've been using them in the gym for over a week now, was using Adidas UltraBoosts before lol
Shut up and lift. Stop majoring in the minors.
Doesn’t matter. Chucks are Chucks. 💪🏼.
Extra ROM when deadlifting with squat shoes? Congrats, you just sold me on using them. I'm all about making the lift harder to get stronger.