I just gave my old QNAP ts-453 mini a second life by installing Truenas with your help. Thanks a lot! I'm eager to try it out. I'm already running a XPenology pc as a "fake" Synology and it works a charm. Luckily I bought the 8 Gb ram modules with the QNAP back in 2015...
Is it just me, but the last few videos have had sound synching issues. This is the only channel I experience this and its just the last few. It's quite distracting
Apologies for the sound jumps in places of this video guys. Me and Eddie have noticed that a number of projects that were completed in August were subject to an odd sync issue that comes and go's in the editing process, but the processing technique of RUclips makes it rather more pronounced. Publishing a vid and article a day might be putting me and Ed to something of a breaking point! Will review this one and a few others and if it's compromising it beyond reproach, we will remove and replace it. Thanks for the comment and please rest assured that we are working on this.
Thank you for the information. I have a couple of questions regarding this procedure: 1) What are the startup time difference between the original QTS (on eMMC/internal USB) to the TrueNAS on NVMe ?; 2) Will it be possible to install the QTS on the NVMe to compare startup times and loading of applications?
Could, or would an QM2 Card (PCIe 2x m.2 Card), help in this instance? Also the TS-453E (As seen on YT), is also a Celeron based System. So I doubt its that deep of a hardware issue, in that the newer Systems now come with m.2 by default, where it was an optional extra for the restbof us.
If my goal is to have a NAS running TrueNAS in a small enclosure like a QNAP, is buying a QNAP or TerraMaster the best price-performance (and low-noise) option or is buying all the pieces separately better? (Time and effort to buy and assemble are not an issue). Thank you.
I have a qnap 453D 4bay, but dubious to try as I have truenas core 13 on a 10th gen intel pc and it wont launch in uefi mode and doesn't support 2.5gb port
Ive got the TVS-863+ with an 10Git-NIC. Does TrueNAS support it? Since I didnt have an M2 drive, can I use a 3tb hd for installation? I know its overkill.
I have an extra ts-453be with 4gb and thinking of trying TrueNas. I know you said 16 gb is recommended but will 4 work for Testing/playing and then I can spend the $$ if I think it works ok.
Great video. Polite request - can you sort out the audible thumps from banging the desk please? Either put a blanket over the desk and/or run the audio through a high pass filter set to around 100Hz to remove the low end noise pollution. I'm on ear buds and it drives me nuts...😁
How large is the eMMC storage on a TS-453D/E, it might not be advisable to doze over it without some backup in place, but let's say that: a) I'm out of warranty b) Im not co concerned about potentially perma-bricking the Device Could I (At least), in theory install to this eMMC? Or would it be pointless, 'cause QNAP were careful to only bless it with just enough capacity to store its own OS (i.e. QTS), on it?
I always wonder why I should use an IP scanner, I guess most of us have an DHCP server (e.g. router/firewall) in the network, so you can simply lookup the NAS IP there 😉
Couldn’t you just do the installation on a PC and then move the SSD with the TrueNAS system to the Qnap? Could be a way to install TrueNAS on Qnaps without HDMI out like the TS-h973AX. Someone installed Unraid on a TS-973AX by simply plugging an USB thumbdrive into the USB port and booted without changing the boot order in bios. Seems USB drives have higher boot order than the builtin flash. Another possibility could be to blindly enter the bios and change the boot order.
Yes, that is doable and would certainly benefit NAS that do not have HDMI out...but it might be alot more work to do it that way (needing a PC etc setup and a trueNAS install via external means) than to use a keyboard and monitor you already have on the QNAP. Also, you would still need the KVM setup on most NAS to switch it to the USB boot. I know (as you rightly say) that some QNAP boot from USB by default, but that is a MOBO preset in some cases and in others something that later revisions have automatically set by QNAP to the eMMC drive. I wouldn't comfortably recommend a non KVM QNAP TrueNAS installation without knowing for certain the mobo presets. Cheers for your input on this interesting subject mate
BIOS Asustor (он же материнская плата Acer) в принципе не предусматривает установку системы на диск. Только на флеш USB. Потратил 5 дней разбираясь с этим. Можно установить Xpenology но она рандомно перезагружается в неожиданных ситуациях без явных и видимых причин.
I just this year ventured into the universe of having my first NAS. I purchased the QNAP TS32-PX and I am thinking that I cannot switch this unit over to TrueNAS, can someone confirm that for me? I just looked at my manual and I don't have any sort of port to connect up a monitor, only USB slots and Ethernet. The manual also names an unusual CPU which is Annapurna Labs Alpine AL324 4-core 1.7 GHz ARM 64-bit so I really am leaning to the conclusion that I cannot switch over but still prefer to get some opinions please.
Well as stated without a local KVM it would be more inherently difficult, but an not necessarily impossible task. You bigger issue is going to be finding an ARM compatible version of that OS. Which is why this Demo is being done on a low-end consumer x86-grade System, that has both USB for Keyboard, and Mouse, but also hosts HDMI, as Video-out.
Important information for anyone who is buying the newer ASUSTOR models. I bought the new AS6702T and it appears ASUSTOR started to block BIOS access. Mashing the ESC key game me a post screen for a split second, I had to record a video to even see what it displayed, because after that it just stayed on the flashing cursor and nothing would happen. It said system BIOS and system VIDEO shadowed. No idea what it means exactly but I couldnt get to "normal" BIOS with any key. After about two hours I finally found that F11 would get me to UEFI shell, where it displayed all drives and a startup script (from ASUSTOR). Bit of Googling and typing bootx64.efi managed to boot the USB with TrueNAS install and finally managed to get it installed. Now, after restart, the NAS goes to the TrueNAS automatically. I installed it on new NVMe drive so hopefully it didnt screw the original OS, however Im not sure if I will be able to boot into original OS even after I take out the NVMe with TrueNAS install.. Ill probably test it later on. Just be warned. @NASCompares it would be great if you could get some info from ASUSTOR regarding this. If they really did hardened the way you can get another OS on their NAS. I mean I get it they want you to use their software but still, shitty move imho
It's done and just looking for the time to edit and publish it + SCALE. If you Google NASCompares Asustor TrueNAS install, I Reckon it should appear now (was about a week ago)
did you test if removing the NVMe will allow to boot again from the original OS? I'm looking to achieve the same for AS6604T but I haven't managed to get the UEFI shell trough F11 bashing (or any other previously mentioned key as ESC,DEL, F2, F11, F12).
@@bogossogob yes, if you install the OS correctly on the NVMe drive, the original OS can still be used, either by removing the drive or changing the boot menu. So make sure to not mess with the internal ROM. Regarding my post, it turns out the BIOS wasnt locked, but my keyboard was the problem. After trying normal USB keyboard, I got into BIOS normally.
Hi, so i have a m.2 already installed in my qnap and it's assigned as a cache drive. Can i still use it regardless? Or should i put a second one in and use it instead?
I just gave my old QNAP ts-453 mini a second life by installing Truenas with your help. Thanks a lot! I'm eager to try it out. I'm already running a XPenology pc as a "fake" Synology and it works a charm. Luckily I bought the 8 Gb ram modules with the QNAP back in 2015...
A helpful and clear guide to the install, and how to revert back. Very Good indeed. Thank You.
Would love to see this same type of guide for unRAID on QNAP
This was really interesting. Since it is reversible, it could be fun to try maybe Windows, other Linux distros just to see how they work.
Qnap makes excellent truenas hardware Like really excellent.
Is it just me, but the last few videos have had sound synching issues. This is the only channel I experience this and its just the last few. It's quite distracting
Apologies for the sound jumps in places of this video guys. Me and Eddie have noticed that a number of projects that were completed in August were subject to an odd sync issue that comes and go's in the editing process, but the processing technique of RUclips makes it rather more pronounced. Publishing a vid and article a day might be putting me and Ed to something of a breaking point! Will review this one and a few others and if it's compromising it beyond reproach, we will remove and replace it. Thanks for the comment and please rest assured that we are working on this.
Thank you for the information. I have a couple of questions regarding this procedure: 1) What are the startup time difference between the original QTS (on eMMC/internal USB) to the TrueNAS on NVMe ?; 2) Will it be possible to install the QTS on the NVMe to compare startup times and loading of applications?
what are the possibilities for TS-251+, TS-253Be or any other Celeron based NAS that do not have M.2 slot?
Could, or would an QM2 Card (PCIe 2x m.2 Card), help in this instance?
Also the TS-453E (As seen on YT), is also a Celeron based System. So I doubt its that deep of a hardware issue, in that the newer Systems now come with m.2 by default, where it was an optional extra for the restbof us.
Great guide!
If my goal is to have a NAS running TrueNAS in a small enclosure like a QNAP, is buying a QNAP or TerraMaster the best price-performance (and low-noise) option or is buying all the pieces separately better? (Time and effort to buy and assemble are not an issue). Thank you.
Could this be done on last gen systems without an embedded m.2 slot(s), via a QM2 Card?
My TS451+ boot from USB via UEFI but doesnt boot TrueNAS with UEFI-Option...
What can i do?
Looking forward for a installation and setup video for Unraid on a Qnap nas, like TVS h1288x with all setups of the temp. Sensors, fans, etc.
With this does the front light panel still work properly
I have a qnap 453D 4bay, but dubious to try as I have truenas core 13 on a 10th gen intel pc and it wont launch in uefi mode and doesn't support 2.5gb port
How about a video on How to Install Jellyfin on a QNAP..please?
So can qts be installed on non qnap hardware
Love this guide!!
Ive got the TVS-863+ with an 10Git-NIC. Does TrueNAS support it? Since I didnt have an M2 drive, can I use a 3tb hd for installation? I know its overkill.
Think I'll try this on my now retired 451+
Great tutorial.
I have an extra ts-453be with 4gb and thinking of trying TrueNas. I know you said 16 gb is recommended but will 4 work for Testing/playing and then I can spend the $$ if I think it works ok.
Great video.
Polite request - can you sort out the audible thumps from banging the desk please? Either put a blanket over the desk and/or run the audio through a high pass filter set to around 100Hz to remove the low end noise pollution. I'm on ear buds and it drives me nuts...😁
How large is the eMMC storage on a TS-453D/E, it might not be advisable to doze over it without some backup in place, but let's say that:
a) I'm out of warranty
b) Im not co concerned about potentially perma-bricking the Device
Could I (At least), in theory install to this eMMC? Or would it be pointless, 'cause QNAP were careful to only bless it with just enough capacity to store its own OS
(i.e. QTS), on it?
I always wonder why I should use an IP scanner, I guess most of us have an DHCP server (e.g. router/firewall) in the network, so you can simply lookup the NAS IP there 😉
Couldn’t you just do the installation on a PC and then move the SSD with the TrueNAS system to the Qnap? Could be a way to install TrueNAS on Qnaps without HDMI out like the TS-h973AX.
Someone installed Unraid on a TS-973AX by simply plugging an USB thumbdrive into the USB port and booted without changing the boot order in bios. Seems USB drives have higher boot order than the builtin flash.
Another possibility could be to blindly enter the bios and change the boot order.
Yes, that is doable and would certainly benefit NAS that do not have HDMI out...but it might be alot more work to do it that way (needing a PC etc setup and a trueNAS install via external means) than to use a keyboard and monitor you already have on the QNAP. Also, you would still need the KVM setup on most NAS to switch it to the USB boot. I know (as you rightly say) that some QNAP boot from USB by default, but that is a MOBO preset in some cases and in others something that later revisions have automatically set by QNAP to the eMMC drive. I wouldn't comfortably recommend a non KVM QNAP TrueNAS installation without knowing for certain the mobo presets. Cheers for your input on this interesting subject mate
Thank u Sir
BIOS Asustor (он же материнская плата Acer) в принципе не предусматривает установку системы на диск. Только на флеш USB.
Потратил 5 дней разбираясь с этим.
Можно установить Xpenology но она рандомно перезагружается в неожиданных ситуациях без явных и видимых причин.
mate ..with the volume you speak at the noise of spinning disks and NAS hum is negligible .. lol
I just this year ventured into the universe of having my first NAS. I purchased the QNAP TS32-PX and I am thinking that I cannot switch this unit over to TrueNAS, can someone confirm that for me? I just looked at my manual and I don't have any sort of port to connect up a monitor, only USB slots and Ethernet. The manual also names an unusual CPU which is Annapurna Labs Alpine AL324 4-core 1.7 GHz ARM 64-bit so I really am leaning to the conclusion that I cannot switch over but still prefer to get some opinions please.
Well as stated without a local KVM it would be more inherently difficult, but an not necessarily impossible task.
You bigger issue is going to be finding an ARM compatible version of that OS. Which is why this Demo is being done on a low-end consumer x86-grade System, that has both USB for Keyboard, and Mouse, but also hosts HDMI, as Video-out.
well i guess you need to install a GPU, maybe a cheap one online?
Important information for anyone who is buying the newer ASUSTOR models. I bought the new AS6702T and it appears ASUSTOR started to block BIOS access. Mashing the ESC key game me a post screen for a split second, I had to record a video to even see what it displayed, because after that it just stayed on the flashing cursor and nothing would happen. It said system BIOS and system VIDEO shadowed. No idea what it means exactly but I couldnt get to "normal" BIOS with any key. After about two hours I finally found that F11 would get me to UEFI shell, where it displayed all drives and a startup script (from ASUSTOR). Bit of Googling and typing bootx64.efi managed to boot the USB with TrueNAS install and finally managed to get it installed. Now, after restart, the NAS goes to the TrueNAS automatically. I installed it on new NVMe drive so hopefully it didnt screw the original OS, however Im not sure if I will be able to boot into original OS even after I take out the NVMe with TrueNAS install.. Ill probably test it later on. Just be warned.
@NASCompares it would be great if you could get some info from ASUSTOR regarding this. If they really did hardened the way you can get another OS on their NAS. I mean I get it they want you to use their software but still, shitty move imho
It's done and just looking for the time to edit and publish it + SCALE. If you Google NASCompares Asustor TrueNAS install, I Reckon it should appear now (was about a week ago)
did you test if removing the NVMe will allow to boot again from the original OS? I'm looking to achieve the same for AS6604T but I haven't managed to get the UEFI shell trough F11 bashing (or any other previously mentioned key as ESC,DEL, F2, F11, F12).
@@bogossogob yes, if you install the OS correctly on the NVMe drive, the original OS can still be used, either by removing the drive or changing the boot menu. So make sure to not mess with the internal ROM. Regarding my post, it turns out the BIOS wasnt locked, but my keyboard was the problem. After trying normal USB keyboard, I got into BIOS normally.
Hi, so i have a m.2 already installed in my qnap and it's assigned as a cache drive. Can i still use it regardless? Or should i put a second one in and use it instead?