America's CCA drone fighters will change warfare forever
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Despite all the focus we’ve placed on the next generation of fighter jets currently in the works (or on hold) for the U.S. Air Force and U.S. ‘Navy, it’s increasingly certain that the vast majority of the real fighting in the sky will soon be left up to a new slew of artificial-intelligence-powered drone fighters taking their cues from pilots in nearby stealth jets.
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Alex, what do you think of the possibility of US defense firms losing sales to Europe over President Trump's threat of tariff's and constant threats of weakening support for NATO.
Deepseek just proved that training AI can be tens of thousands of times cheaper with a few tweaks.
And then some open source developers figured out how to do it even cheaper than that faster.
And then some kid at a university knocked off another order of magnitude.
That's the entire reason Nvidia shed $600 billion of market cap.
With the various open source software stacks out there, there are no observable limitations.
DARPA and a private company both have developed aircraft agnostic AI autopilot. One stack, any aircraft, just at the update like two files and spent about 30 bucks on hugging face.
Those F-16's using the 5th generation coatings looks fantastic.
If the F-35 pilot can control eight CCAs, one wonders if the B-21 will fly with 32 CCAs - two pilots and two weapons officers. True saturation of the airspace is an extremely effective deterrence to war.
I'm pretty sure Alex made a video about the possibility of the B21 replacing NGAD shortly after it was put on pause due to budget restraints. Maybe that's part of the reason why they made said statement.
Is not about how many one can control, take Australia MQ28 Ghost bat the AI does not really need a human to control it at all. they upload entire mission before it takes off and drone can perform it fully autonomous, human is only there as a custodian to make sure does not go rogue etc, they have drone swarm ai and give one a command and rest will follow.
Australia way ahead in CCA drones and been flying MQ28 with F35 for over 1 year now..
MQ28 can be controllled by E7 and P8 also.. What it was built for..
E7 and P8 have more crew for controlling them then a B21 ..
Damn, dogfighting is truly history.
air battles of today might be a game of chess and drone management.
And one has to wonder if the J-36 can carry as many. China is ahead of us in AI and they have shown they can controll 8000 drones in flight with high precision.
The F-35 can't reach China from first island chain bases or carrierss, so doesn't matter how many drones it can control.
I stop everything to watch your videos. They're always great. Keep it up!
Yes fantasy is always fun.
Ok fatburger. But 7th f35 crashed last week
@JohnJones-k9d *sniff* *sniff*
I smell wumao ....
@JohnJones-k9dlmao what a cringe comment
Such a great narrative voice. I would probably sit an listen to you talk about extending vehicle maintenance warranty
Lol
Your videos are always SO well researched and you cite real sources which I really appreciate.
Wish Anduril would go public soon, this private company is giving all the big defense contractors fits, going to grow very quickly.
@tylernorby4939 They have just finished a large factory facility in Ohio and today CNBC just did a piece on Anduril's valuation.
And as soon as they do, the big players buy them out... So there may be an interest in keeping them private.
Anduril is full gaslighting !!
@@peterides9568 i think they mean announce what they have. being publicly traded is indeed the death of any decent company.
Careful what you wish for; conventional investors could stall innovation. It's in their interest to chose their investors, rather than allow it to go the other way around.
Speed + Altitude = increased missile effect
*Increased range
Great segment, Alex
Alex, for your consideration... On the intro animation, I recommend changing it to:
"Expertise, Objectivity, Combat Veteran" (or Military Veteran)
I'm an admitted nobody, with only a few years editing computer hardware reviews _(albeit, some articles needed heavy rewrites),_ but that's just how I'd have worded it 😊
My logic is: someone can be an expert and objective thinker, but doesn't necessarily mean they *exhibit* those all the time... Whereas phrasing it this way, to me, presents you/the videos as exhibiting your expertise and objectivity; a guarantee, you could say. As for the Veteran part, it just clarifies, as you could've been an "industry veteran" for example, so this removes that ambiguity. As a bonus, it reaffirms that THESE topics are ones you've spent a lot of time around, thereby highlighting why you're an expert and objective.
Just my 2¢! 🍻
Now, back to the video I go...
The Sandboxx is the Benchmark in 2025!! Keep the deep dives coming! Can't get enough! Keep up the Great Work Ser!
Great show. I never miss a Sandboxx.
if pilots are going to be playing an RTS up in the sky on a touch display, we need to start recruiting Korean Starcraft players into our military to start training pilots
Love the content, Alex!
Excellent work! Thanks for doing all the leg work for us.
You're laying out some pretty impressive strategic thinking there! :)
Garbage bs and fairy tales
@@GamerShowdown-h8jKeep crying Putinbot.
Most is all done by Australia and MQ28 Ghost bat already lol.. do know USA took the idea from Australia..
@@GamerShowdown-h8j It looks like that 😪
Great information! Thanks, Alex! 🎉
USS Preble, not Pebble. She's named for Revolutionary War leader Commodore Edward Preble.
This is how SkyNet is born.
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Amen. "Would you like to play a game..?"
@@B-leaferdifferent movies but yeah same feeling
@@B-leafer"I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that" 😉
This isn't how I coded it.
The new intro looks cool, my friend!
So that drone from Anduril Seems pretty awesome. I think it would be pretty interesting if they looked into launching it from other aircraft instead of the rocket launches. At 5000 lbs it is well within the lift capacity of the new v280 valor or even the older blackhawks. If so you could basically launch a jet from anywhere in the world without having to worry about a runway until landing and depending on the cost of each drone that may not even be that big of a deal. Similarly could we have like a rapid dragon equivalent for these things where you could basically drop 3-5 out the back of a cargo plane? It really could be in powerful deployment method.
Anduril Dragon.
Anduril is full gaslighting !!
Alex, I'd love to see you do a video on the Chinese massive coordinated drone clouds (like locusts) and mitigating that threat..ty.
Fragments, of course! Don't forget 12 ga. machine guns! Oh, and yes, the EMP bomb on a guided missile! All top secret DARPA programs, though. [Algorithm appeased.]
Leonidas directed EMP systems is one answer. Drone swarms are really susceptible to these types of attacks because they are condensed into such a small area.
You can thank Australia for Ghost Bat pictured.
I was under the impression that the Ghostbat was a joint venture that included Boeing. Is this incorrect?
@@CJ_Ludwig501 Boeing Australia and barely anything is Boeing at all.. Boeing Australia Australian designer and engineer are head of MQ28....
@@nedkelly9688doesn’t change the collaboration aspect. What a weird comment.
@ yours is a weird comment as you obviously did not research or do not understand it is Boeing Australia not Boeing USA,, Boeing Australia is full of Australian's lol.. 70% Australian and 30% is world wide global companies, Boeing USA barely 10%. not much collaboration.
AI is from another Australian company not even Boeing. Designer Australian. Engineer Australian.
But you try saying it is USA Boeing made lol...
Boeing Australia also needs to abide Australian secrecy laws and Boeing USA does not own the intel rights even had to get Australian government approval to ship one to USA for them to test..
@nedkelly9688 Thanks for answering my question. I try to stay out of semantical arguments on RUclips, but isn't Boeing Australia a subsidiary of Boeing?
It is weird that we'd agree to work with an ally nation, especially Australia, then back out for the reason we did. It sounds like the decision makers didn't think it out to its conclusion.
Thanks for explaining everything well.
"America's CCA drones" but the caption has an Australian one.
That America won't give permission to Australia for it to be able to electronically link with US manufactured jets. So it has now become a very expensive surveillance drone.
@@paythepiper6283Got a source for that? I follow the programme pretty closely, and haven't heard anything about that limitation being the result of US restrictions so much as budget and time pressure, with armaments being pushed back to later blocks.
Allies.
the caption? I believe you mean the thumbnail
@@paythepiper6283 Princess Australia has been flying it with F35 and FA18 for years, just recently did a test with 2 MQ28 and 1 manned jet.. NO USA said they will not let Australia use American weapons on it.. and if Australia wants we will use our own or another countries weapons..
Thanks Alex!
Equipment released by China this year: Harbin Z-21，J20S，J35A，KJ3000，Y40(WS20 engines)，Jiutian Drone，076 amphibious assault ship，JARI USV，CH-7 drone，MD 19，MD 22，SAC 6G fighter ，CAC 6G fighter，unitree wheeled robot dog, robot wolf.....
Thanks brother you are the man
nice report!
Seems like a next-gen drone engine program would be a good idea. There are going to be thousands of these things flying they should have cutting edge propulsion like the aircraft controlling them.
MERICA BABY!
The intro music is awesome.
I wonder if they will have fuel-carrier CCAs to support the sixth-gen aircraft on longer missions
For certain they will.
They've already tested drone tankers...
Refueling drones are already in the works
See the previous video on this channel. The Boeing stealth tanker drone is already in low rate production and is meant for carriers.
One more step to SKYNET.
White balance is better than it used to be but Alex is still a little blue.
Very interesting video on all this UAS stuff
Can you give a little more insight? Curious on what you mean (I’m in audio, not video)
@Mongrel214
Just saying that for a long time the white balance on these sandboxx videos has been very blue. Recently it seems to be less blue, but still not quite right.
A number of things could cause a camera to record with a color bias one way or another. In this case, one possibility is that the set is lit with incandescent lights (regular light bulbs). These are normally very yellow, like around 2800° Kelvin and would make the whole scene yellow.
If the camera is set for automatic color balance it would try to compensate and shift the balance towards blue. Some things would appear close to neutral and other things would appear pretty blue.
Another possibility is mixed lighting. There might be artificial lights on set but an open window letting daylight mix in. The areas with the daylight will be much bluer than most artificial lighting (except flash).
My studio strobes have modeling lights built-in which are calibrated to 3200k. The modeling lights can be used to shoot with if you adjust the camera color balance for 3200. When using the strobes in flash mode the modeling lights are automatically switched off as the flash fires so that the lighting color is not mixed.
Something similar can happen with auto exposure. If you take a picture of something that's mostly all black the camera will likely try to compensate and make everything lighter, because it doesn't know that the picture is supposed to be all black.
Snow scenes often come out gray, because again, the camera compensated not knowing that it was supposed to be a mostly all white photo.
Thanks
Every Friday is Christmas when you post your videos
U r the best!
Jesus the volume of music is so quiet I turned it up you scared the shit out of me lol
Fantastic vid as usual mate.!
One jet 20 drones!
It of all of the drones, my favorite design is Boeing's MQ-28 Ghost Bat.
Thank you as always, Alex! I've been following these developments since the Lockheed-Martin "SABRE" days. Now, with these things getting closer, I'm wondering what the effect is going to be on war in general. If things get to a point where war only (or mostly) affects hardware, rather than human lives, how will politicians adjust their tactics? And, what about a near-peer conflict, where it's even more "machines against machines"? I'd love to hear some informed thoughts on that.
I’d just like to point out this wasn’t just predicted by Ace Combat 7, but all the way back in 1985 when Gradius first hit arcades.
>americas cca fighters in title
>australian cca fighters in thumbnail
"you don't run out of ammo as long as you still have power" - technically yes but most likely practically not. Nothing is 100% efficient and when a device generates this much power some of it going to be lost as heat in the device and no matter how much you try, some of that heat is going to do some damage. This is especially true of pulsed energy devices. That means that some components in the weapon is going to have a shot limit (just like barrels do). The big question is what that number is.
After 1977, SR-71 crews started calling their washing machine sized magic box of navigator and auto pilot "R2-D2".
2:52 did anyone else hear "laser" in the Dr Evil voice, complete with air quotes?
With up to 8 drone wingmen having a few bomb trucks and refueling partners really makes sense
"Perfection is the enemy of good enough" - Smartest engineer I know
11:20 - I have visions of future air combat being pensioners sitting in cockpits baby-sitting AI pilots now, it's in my head and I can't get it out. 🤣
Alex, I would love for you to elaborate on the potential/possibility of enemies using electronic warfare to take control of totally autonomous systems in a future video. As a layperson, my concern is that the US developes the systems and builds them and an enemy (China) takes control and uses them against our own forces. Is this even possible?
I believe al the F-15EXs the AF has ordered are two seaters which would relive the pilot from the wingman operation
Skill, Altitude, Speed. You only need 2.
Every time I see a video on ai pilots I think of how ace combat 7 and how this is literally the entire plot of it to a T
He accidentally said Tim Jaiclet 😂 9:12
I hope the us is taking the logistics of these new systems into account. How will they be maintained, armed, and gotten to the battlefield? These are only a few questions that need answering
Australia already answered them MQ28 Ghost Bat ,, you Americans are so blind or so behind lmao.. few crew needed to maintain them longer range then a F35. flown, carrier or even MQ28 can be shipped in a shipping container assembled fast and can take off from small roads in Asia Pacific if need too..
@@nedkelly9688well you have to consider that we have much more AirPower stuff we are working on-so to think “all Americans” are so far behind is first off an idiotic blanket statement, but second off-we are working on so many more things (in numbers) that some things might be left behind. You’re judging a bit hard when Aussie AirPower is numbered by the handful-not negatively just trying to offer a non hostile perspective on your comment.
@ No you are behind as USA thinks big and expensive and powerful when it does not need to be.
Australia saw war with China would be small inexpensive drones and went big with AI drones years ago knowing small population against a superior country was the solution. do know most of the most advanced drone in Ukraine war are Australian. the anti drone sytems in Ukraine are mostly Australian also.
One of first aid supplies of USA to Ukraine was small fully ai Australian FPV style drones. similar to swirchblade but fully AI with drone swarm ai, inbuilt radars, target identification and tracking systems, anti drone soft or hard kill capabilities, small shotgun style weapon shoots enemy drones.. and USA has plain old switchblade with none of those...
@@Mongrel214 Also is this. MQ28 is the technology feeder to the USA CCA programme.
The Pentagon confirmed in 2022 that it acquired at least one MQ-28 for research and development purposes on behalf of the U.S. Air Force. While the plans for its use have not been disclosed, Secretary of the Air Force Frank Kendall referred to the Ghost Bast as a “technology feeder” for the Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) program...
But what about Rapid Dragon? 🐉
He did a video on that already
What about grabbin dragon?
In this video you mentioned not traveling at supersonic speeds because of bad fuel consumption because of 1) bad fuel consumption and 2) damage to RAM coatings. That raises the question I've asked previously, what has happened to the previously much discussed ceramic RAM coatings capable of resisting degradation at high speeds / high temperatures? Has it been proven not to be a solution to the temperature barrier? At the end of the day an ability to fly faster than the adversary to disengage when required is an advantage that will never go away; that can't be achieved without advanced RAM that continues to perform at mach 1.2 and above.
USAF (DoD) must be alert to chip advances and corresponding software updates as AI assumes more roles and responsibilities in air dominance: four to eight super smart drones (CCA) assist the mission commander in all aspects including reconnaissance, dog fights, preliminary bombing runs, and classified mission ops assigned to each swarm agent. Software coding is achieved directly from the swarm making for a hive mindset that anticipates enemy engagement and is self healing, reviewing mission statistics for success. System interfaces are confirmed by rigorous health checks until the commander receives a final countdown to command a "GO" across the swarm. The commander reserves the option to engage or seek safe haven.
Does ground news tell us if the outlet was funded by usaid?
I keep hearing "crewed" fighters as "crude" fighters.
I really want to know some stats of the drones we can choose from.
HMMM- I wonder if an old century series interceptor could be used as a CCA or drone. Would be cool.
LAST WEEK i saw "NGAD will change how warfare" and this dude lmao
"I'm Alex Hollings!"
I'm glad we got something to watch besides politics. ❤
So many possibilities and so much detail it’s just overwhelming! Hopefully that alone will be enough to keep the ChiComs losing sleep for a good amount of time!
Because of the amount of generated power on the new Ford carriers Helos laser would be perfect
I can see this being effective with a pilot and and drone operator in a 2 seater. On the other hand l can see a single seater pilot being info overloaded.
What is the purpose of a second person being in the air when you can have a person at a base watching the same thing through sensors?
Excellent video and info as usual. In the near future drone stealth won't matter, AI's will be so fast, their sensorium and agility will render current weapons moot. One shot one kill... they won't miss... humans are obsolete, and need to leave the arena.
So when do we get this but it's platoon or company level CAS
I hope we are also thinking about producing a low observable early warning awac type of drone that you can put multiple out and cover a huge area instead of having one or two regular Air Force awac that are huge Targets. having multiple smaller drones with low observable and radar not as big as the ones on the Navy's or Air Force butt big enough to cover a good portion of the sky but you would have multiple of these drones and different parts so you can cover more area and if one gets taken out you still have radar in the air with other drones that are working together cuz these huge aircraft are main targets for enemy Pilots
literally was described in the video ... section on kill web integration
AWACS are designed to operate at a sizable distance from the battlefield-so discounting the above guys comment (who is right), they are not in danger. Regardless, that’s what heavily sensor envisioned aircraft like the f35 make up for if there is such danger to an awacs
DAM! I like this channel!
Now that we know how skynet will be born, we can all be rest assured that it’s totally controllable.
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It will be ok…….
Really it will……
Tim Jaiclet...? Not Jim Taiclet?
5:29 if you already have ground news
When you think about it, a guided missile is a crude form of autonomy. Meaning the complexity required for an autonomous weapon once a command to launch has been given is ridiculously low. Once the manned fighter has sent the green light a loyal wingman AI won't need a lot of complexity to launch missiles from either data link or local radar lock.
But it will need testing. Lots and lots of testing.
Considering what Alex, and the military has stated, they’re already mature so I don’t understand your comment.
@@Mongrel214 I'm sorry you really misunderstood this. Nothing is mature in this area. It's not too far beyond POC at this point, definitely not ready for deployment. More testing.👍
They figured out what Deepseek figured out. You don't need the advanced hardware to develop AI.
For the first round of drones, medium performance is good enough, I guess. I saw the "low cost" goal listed, so that means subsonic and shorter range than the F-35s? Also the mention of "missile trucks" sounds to me like they won't have much evasive maneuver capability - can't pull high Gs with a bunch of missiles hanging off the wings, can we ? Just wondering what their "survivability" would be with incoming air-to-air missiles ?
To me, it seems that the big weakness of ALL of this is communication. Take out the satellites or something, and ask if this interconnected technology is useless. Unless we've got a way to keep communication up no matter what......
Data links. From one f35 to another. The data comes from the f35 and goes to the drone. Don’t understand your comment
@Mongrel214 I'm saying, how well will this work in communications compromised environments?
Let's figure out how to manufacture sensors and avionics at 1/100 the cost and at 100X the rate. Airframes should go the same way.
Ground news doesn’t account for the Overton Window.
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OMG 2 minutes and 40 seconds, so consise
Small AI CCA's way to go... think Rapid Dragon and or B21's to deploy + Carriers + E3/7 +F35/22 to designate.. .how would you resolve that many simultaneous threat vectors!!
I can see SpaceX in the future flying up preloaded ‘PEZ’ dispensers that house different packages like food.. medical.. munitions.. or even a drone package that can link immediately with a specific fighter.. All dispensing during reentry.
Space X has buildings on some air bases obviously they will be involved
I was on board until you said dispensed during re-entry. Why/what purpose would you do it during re-entry? Lol
Amazing concept, BUT what happens when you are engaged in combat, what happens to the drones???
Cheaper and more expendable (no crew) over a manned aircraft. Don’t understand your question
SheildAI has some interwsting CCA software.
lol shield AI uses Australian snetient systems target recognition and tracking systems, VIDAR..,, they actually just bought the Australian company.. getting tired of Australia selling our good companies to USA who then brag they are ahead of everyone..
If the fighters don't have the range to get into the battle, how are the CCAs?
How much, if any, is this complex targeting web dependent on satellite input to be successful?
Can you do a video about China's hypersonic air-to-air missile?
No because he would do a video about the us equivalent that is 100 years away.
@JohnJones-k9d what's your favorite Taylor Swift song?
Mako missile came before China's
@JohnJones-k9d Australia already testing HAWC scramjet hypersonic missile in Australia from our FA18 as helped USA build their hypersonics.. difference you chinese bots do not realise is USA and West test and test their weapons thousands of times to make sure the failure rate is a acceptable amount.. where as proven in Russia war as theirs fail a lot they do not.. people think DF21 is a success and it has only flown the once and missed it's target by 20 miles....
Beware any weapon system named after an Australian animal!
Let's not get too caught up with those claims of low-work-load from these private contractors....they have a profit-motive.
'War' always changes the rules ...sometimes second-by-second.
Lmao that’s what capitalism is for. It’s like you didn’t hear the anduril part (sorry if I spelled that wrong).
The problem with the F-35 is that it cannot reach Taiwan from the second island chain and carriers are too vulnerable to get close enough for the F-35. The Air Force already told congress this. The Air Force is already trying to wiggle out of future F-35 purchases.
I though tit was the USS Preble, not Pebble :p
You can guess that the previous "RIO" spots are going to be called "Koreans" in the military. Because someone is going to be in a plane basically playing Starcraft in the sky in real time. So, yes, the crews will be able to manage a lot of units in real-time.
omfg pretty bad AI if need a full time operator for them lol.. MQ28 Australia drone barely needs a operator as ai does it all.. just needs a custodian to watch over it....
is there ai supported refueling? have the ai take over control of both ends once ready for docking.
Choppy
But good progress
ALEX🇺🇸
If we're stupid enough to allow the drones to design and build new drones we deserve whatever we get.
This system is very sci-fi and impressive. Obviously, it is 100% dependent on network communication across all artifacts (aircrafts, satellites and ground systems). I hope they are built considering interference technology and hacking (AI is here and already being weaponized). Not sure how far we are from creating an EMP missile.