Detection of Strange Star Clusters Shortly After the Big Bang and Why It's Important
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about some of the more unusual discoveries of early clusters made by JWST
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0:00 Mystery of globular clusters - cosmic gems arc
0:55 What globular cluster are
2:25 Hubble discovery from a few years back
3:10 What we see here and why it's important
4:25 Details of the discovery inside this region
5:40 How they differ from globular clusters
6:30 How this probably formed
7:20 Conclusions and implications from the study
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The JWST and your coverage of its accomplishments are utterly mind boggling to me. I am so thankful that you continue to bring us these amazing discoveries Anton!
The only schooling I look forward to.
Same here
Yeah JWST's CGI team is working hard
The James Webb Telescope seems to be one hell of a tease.
Rather than getting the answers to long-term questions that we've been waiting decades for, we keep on getting more wtf? objects (like these proto-Globular Clusters), which don't quite fit our models of this very early time period, but only pose _more_ questions...
The JWST is going to go down in history as the greatest telescope ever launched by man kind. You watch.
Untill the next new telescope
Just like what was said about Hubble before it; and will be said about others to come. Rubin, Roman, Habitable Worlds, LISA, … each will be breaking new ground in observations that will change our fundamental understanding of physics and our universe. The greatest telescope in human history is the next major one.
The JWST certainly warrants the Launch of The Extreme Large Space Telescope, what an age to be alive!
Is that because we never launch another, more powerful telescope...
Wtb 720deg spherical hubble video satellite.
This is why I am a fan of Anton, he provides me with latest physics, astrophysics, cosmology and long awaited solution of globular cluster. No physicists ever gave me so much.
Thank you for your honesty Anton, as always, you bring the science news as it is intended to be. These compact areas remind me of watching cells create life, sparks, and then explosions... then yeah stars and maybe planets 👊👊👊
Honesty is usually associated with political commentary. Anton reports scientific discoveries accurately.
I've seen about 100 videos where the JWST has caused scientists, physicists and astronomers to rethink things. It's like the first time a human opened his/her eyes.
This really shouldn't be such a surprise. Having worked in inertial confinement fusion, I've seen how the powerful expansion forces and the sharply curved magnetic fields could lead to lots of types of clusters if you extend that symmetry to an early universe.
I was totally about to say the same thing.....
That is trough but the real breakthrough will be when they consider the causes of the 'Universal' scale fields capable of transporting essentially all the mass in the universe so fast.
Thanks Anton! You're the best! 😊❤
another most wonderful video Anton.
I enjoy Antons videos, too. But my lips aren't long enough to reach his butt. Lol, just kidding!
The recent Hubble discovery of an intermediate mass black hole in Omega Centauri globular is also kind of awesome.
Definitely cool!
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 👍😉
That crescent shaped row of globular clusters looks like one globular cluster being lensed by a massive something in the foreground.
The smile at the end is a game changer
Thank You, Anton, for all your hard work - much appreciated.
A Borg cube sprung to mind in part of this wonderful presentation
Thank you, JWST!
What’s strange is that all this happened 13 billion years ago…so there is no telling what they look like now…..
Well, there has to be some way to model them well enough to give us a rough idea of how they look now.
Yet another absolutely fascinating episode!
I prefer nut clusters, but we are getting nearercand nearer the beginning of everything. That is awe inspiring, even if we do not yet understand what we observe.
Thanks Anton!
Thanks for clearing the air.
Fascinating!
These clusters contain first generation stars that were huge and short lived. Besides, these stars were very close to one another moving in probably quite dense hydrogen medium that might have damped their relative velocities. So that I wonder if we do not simply observe the seeds of the huge primordial black holes!
thanks for the information anton and looking forward to more updates
You’re the best Anton. Thanks for being such a badass at science
It always freaks me out to see objects from the early universe.
The way I keep hold of it is like getting a letter from Captain Cook in Sidney, Australia (What's a letter, Grandpa?) which can only come by ship and takes months to get to me, by which time, Cook has already arrived in the Hawaiian Island and been killed by indigenous tribesmen.
Another great JWST topic, thank you Anton
Wow, thank you Anton for one point I didn't know - how did the globular clusters form,
I had no idea this is a mystery still to this day!
Thank you for the great video Anton!
Space Electrons!
Thank you Anton! Always interesting!❤
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Oh, this is something absolutely fascinating. I have long believed that the globular clusters are crucial for understanding galaxy formation. Now t turns out, that that even affect reionization. Good for them!
Really interesting ,thanks 👍😊
Thanks Anto
It is clear that everything happened faster in the early era of the universe than what is seen in our galactic neighbourhood. The simplest reason for this is that the gravitational constant G is not really a constant as it seems to be in the local region but varies with time. If gravity had been much stronger initially, star and galactic formation would have been much faster than what we see nearer to us. This would explain why galaxies and globular star clusters are too developed for there to have been time for their complexity to evolve. The anomaly is readily explained if gravity were far stronger in the early era after the Big Bang. Variable G is predicted by E8xE8' heterotic superstring theory because this predicts TWO 10-d space-time sheets, one containing invisible matter belonging to the E8-singlet sector of E8xE8' (identifiable as dark matter that stabilises the rotation of galaxies) and one containing visible matter belonging to the E8'-singlet sector of E8xE8'. The two sheets are separated by a small gap that extends along the 10th dimension of space required by M-theory. This dimension is one of the higher 16 dimensions of 26-d space-time predicted by quantum mechanics for spinless strings, oscillations in which are one of the two possible modes of vibration of heterotic superstrings. Only gravity can pass across this dimensional barrier between the two universes that share the same 9-d space. Crucially, higher-dimensional versions of Einstein's General Relativity theory predict a G that weakens as gravity drains away through higher-dimensional space, the increasing width between the two space-time sheets causing G to decrease even though the other 21 compactified dimensions remained unchanged as both space-time sheets enlarged. If, therefore, we suppose that both sheets moved apart along the 10th dimension as they expanded in three dimensions of space, this would explain why G has decreased from its initial high value, which generated a relatively rapid formation of stars and galaxies that its present value cannot explain.
Your opinion on the untimely formation of these ancient globular clusters appears to be a thoughtful and knowledgeable explanation.
However, as many among us were never denizens of the hallowed halls of academia, I think your comment might have flown just a little too high over most people's heads to entirely grasp - hence the reason why Anton's channel is so popular.
Taking this into account , I wonder if it might be a good idea if you have the time and can be bothered. If you would do another iteration of your comment ,slightly dumbed down (in regard to the maths and science) so that poor dopes like me will be able to absolutely construe - with confidence , the purport of everything that you were expounding upon.
It seemed interesting but jargon left me a little bit lost and I'm sure that I wasn't the only one(hence your low thumbs up count).
Thank you, kindly.
I'm glad you pointing out how radically different the universe was before and just after reionization. The universe was much smaller, denser and hotter at this time. At the time of reionization, the average temperature of the universe was 3000 K, as opposed to 4 K today. The radius was only 43 million light years, as opposed to our 46 BILLION light years today. This makes the early universe over a billion times more dense. So far, our assumptions about star and galactic formation have been mostly wrong during this period of time.
What I always wanted to know about globular clusters and didn't find anywhere: How far apart are stars inside them on average?
Near the center, they will be way less than a lightyear apart, but that distance increases steadily and predictably as you move away from the core. It's what you would expect when you pack around a million stars into a space only a relatively few lightyears across.
Thank you.
I would like to hear more about this as information becomes available please.
All they have it seems are some single pixil and smaller dots and assumption. As far back as that image gose it is more likely those are early short lived mega-stars and super giant stars.
Astronomers and cosmologists are so often looking for the exotic explanations that they often overlook the obvious (so glad I went into physics instead)... Early galaxies, lots of really massive stars...lots of supernovae events. I'll bet my last dollar that is what is being observed.
It’s like the universe is by design. So finely tuned.
More merchandise please ❤
The early universe was very different, with emergent properties we do not see today. Quasars were the first hint of this difference.
It was certainly denser
The powers were new, igniting to extremes. But still no pop-III stars found.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Hold my hydrogen...
When scientists say that they don't know how Globular clusters formed what they are saying is that they can't imagine the set of circumstances that give the end result of the distribution and dynamic behaviour of the star system we observe
So beautiful
Praise JWST 🙏
Sonic shock wave distribution, before matter dispersed and vacuum asserted itself.
Those should be 2:3 ratio, they area a byproduct of an iterative universe in it’s imaginary plane - I have the formula if you want, it iterates a circle and creates linear attractors like you see in the stars
Starting at 3 minutes 4 seconds, the HST image appears unusually blurred.
I think both the HST and the JWST are awesome, but the bias for the JWST is exaggerated often. Just my observation from someone who has kept up with the work of HST.
It's pretty obvious that we just think they're compact because the expanding model says so. In a nonexpanding model, these would be regular size. (The alleged angular diameter turnaround at z=1.6 causes this confusion.)
Eric Lerner would be proud.
Question: does clusters formed next a small black hole that keep them togheter turnind around it?
"Because this was Hubble space telescope, unfortunaly, it didn't really see much."
- Sounds a little bit like a diss, which this instrument doesn't deserve.😅
Baby star cluster images😍
If dark matter changes states between a liquid and gaseous state then there would have been a time where almost all of the dark matter cooled, condensed and collapsed. This liquid state could possibly have led to very dense pools of baryonic matter. The dark matter in its liquid state would have been highly concentrated (0.1% of the volume of the gaseous state). This would have resulted in deeper gravity wells which would have taken much longer to vaporize without an AGN. Like the stars around Sag A these stars may have been almost immortal.
Astrophysicists call dark matter an "observable effect for which a cause has not yet been discovered." Observations -- that's it. We have no idea what it actually is.
More observable effects with a reasonable explanation
Since we can graphically represent gravitational lensing as we see in some animations, it seems we may be able to calculate the parameters of the lensing from observations and reverse it to actually see the object. Is there a way you can do a review of that possibility?
"Nobody has any idea of how they formed... "
Enough said... But Humans ARE Prone to WONDER.
Maybe the universe is much,
much older than we think
Cosmic Gems Arc sounds like a sonic the hedgehog game
Sorry, but can someone explain to me: if I understood correctly, these have the mass of central black holes, but are way smaller in diameter.....why are they not black holes? o.O
One wonders if some globular clusters are 'population 0' remnants.
If there objects are 'proto globular clusters', that may fit such a suspicion.
The cosmic microwave background is probably just reflected lensing noise . I remember when it was just snow on my TV.
i love to watch your videos to see if i can figuer out what it is....and I GOT IT this time....those are all my lost left sox i have lost over the years...Thank You for finally finding them for me!
"The Proto-Globular Clusters" would be a great name for a band.
Anton I really like the content and regularity at which you deliver this great content, but I think you should more precisely tag the picture of space when they are real image and illustration because I feel fooled at some moment when I see the artistic image coming back out of context.
I think you shoul rather be constanly precise about what we see. The choice of making it apealing is correct, the choice to make it confusing isn't. Just put in a corner "illustration" when it is the case... sometimes it is clearly evident but sometimes not at all. good work anyway. Thank you
All those microscopic blackholes had to combine at some point I guess.
When will we be able to see reflections. For instance, will we ever see a reflection of our own Galaxy coming back to us after light years?
Beads on a string plasma formation.
MANTAP 👍🌟
So.... They finally found the beginning of time??🤔 Anton help, I cannot wrap my head around that right now!!
I know its hard to comprehend but compared to the age of the universe alot can happen in 400 million years !
Big Bang? 💥
Wasn't that the title of a cosmic fairy tale that was thrown into the scientific space about 50 years ago?
Wow! It may be a giant power supply in space….
So here's my prediction:
These ancient globular clusters are actually what creates galactic bulges like the one at our milky way.
Except, back then, gas had not yet been accreting around them to form the discs we see today. This leads to me thinking that perhaps these are where the supermassive black holes of every galaxy are formed, where stars in the center get so tightly packed together, an event horizon forms around them due to the gravity being produced.
Maybe instead of singular gigantic stars, population III stars were massive globular clusters? Except that wouldn’t explain why we don’t see any population III stars in the modern universe…
Would these be the elusive population III stars then?
The most mind-boggling thing to me is that community of physicists and astronomers still can't confess that their standard model is not standard any more.
It sounds like a densely packed group of population 3 stars. Maybe after they all went supernova, they left behind material that later formed the globular clusters we see today?
Are black holes at the centre of them?
The James Webb telescope is teaching us, take everything you thought you knew about space and expect something different.
So are all these findings causing tweaks to theories or starting to paint a picture of being completely wrong?
Observational astronomy is in a constant state of flux, evolving as new data is gathered. Soooooo many people expect science to be cut and dried, black or white, with no gray areas in between, but true scientists are always ready to incorporate new findings and discoveries into their theories. Do these newly discovered objects require any theories to be totally discarded? Probably not. Current theories about the formation of the earliest galaxies should be thought of as a sort of framework. Incomplete and purposely left with holes in them, and for good reason. Wise astronomers never say that they have everything figured out about a particular phenomenon or process, because new observations may cut their idea to shreds. You assemble a basic framework, based on what you can see and measure, then build on it over time as new data becomes available. If you ever hear someone claim that they've got it all in the bag, with nothing left to figure out, you know they're full of Bantha poo doo.
They are certainly making us reexamine theories of early star and galaxy formation. The are not, at least yet, prompting serious questioning of the lambda-CDM cosmology model as a whole.
I've been wondering id the identity of a gas can yield the identity of the star composed of this gas.
Hmmm, star party.
Does this mean we are looking at a whole globular cluster of Population 3 stars???
Wouldn't these have to be Population 3 stars if they formed so soon after the Big Bang?
Those clusters take up a tiny area with vast clear areas around. So hardly they could clear up space so far away from them clusters. Just more creationism.
Mysterious
Clearly the early universe was much denser than theorists imagined. Is it possible that before reionization the distribution of mass was already lumpy?
It would seem to have been lumpy, indicated by baryon acoustic ocillations popping out all over at many seed points during the reionisation epoch.
the universe is alive, we dont live long enough to see it move. we are like fruit flies with a 30 day lifespan and the universe takes 10000 of our years to have a heart beat. -high thoughts
Maybe these clusters ended up turning into the super-massive black holes previously discussed.
I did think that the density of these clusters might lead to some understanding of how those blackholes arrived so early.
Thats just a train of STAR link... Ill see myself out
A line Galaxy, what next? Probably the edge of a Galaxy Disk, probably everything else concerning this line galaxy is bunk!.
Time itself was slowed down to the point that in our nanosecond, there might be billions of years inside of it.
Why aren't very early galaxies getting, visual arc, larger?
According to theory the universe was significantly smaller 13 billion years ago and so any given galaxy was PROPORTIONALLY larger and so they, since we are looking into pay, should be taking up MORE visual arc.
Our demented abusive narcissistic Consensus Cosmology Paradigm is making angry noises about this.
"Tell me about unconscious uniformitarian gravity-driven fusion like in the good old days?"
The number one red flag of crank pseudoscience is accusations/insinuations that the mainstream is closed-minded and intolerant of alternatives.
Jwst: everything is strange and new! Wait till 1st intergalactic space robots are out there...
🙋♀️💖JWST
I think we all know you are anton by this point
And you are wonderful person.
How does a globular cluster not turn into a disk?
Something to do with the statistical mechanical "temperature" - the distribution of speeds of stars relative to the total potential, and how that potential evolves as the shape of the collection changes.
Lack of angular momentum, like an elliptical galaxy.
OMG I’ve never been this early before…. posted 36secs ago 🤯
What if all these hyper dense globular clusters collapsed into the supermassive blackholes in the center of galaxies.