Tim Keller - Human Condition: Living When Life Hurts
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2019
- Tim Keller speaking at Human Oxford 2019, a week of events exploring the story of Jesus and what it means to be human.
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In my opinion, Keller is one of the best preachers of our time. God has given him so much wisdom!
2nd message that I heard of this man and I’m totally in wonder
Not at all. He was a robot. Nothing original with this person. Nothing he could come up on his own. Just repeating bullshit.
@@rx7561 ouch who hurt you? 😢 🙏
Tim Keller knew suffering first hand. His insights have helped me to cope and have given me hope Romans 8:28.
If Rev. Tim Keller was an Orthodox or a Catholic, they would have already officially proclaim him as a Canonized Saint of the Church. I hope the Protestants will not forget him and his beautiful Theology and Legacy.
Not a chance, my friend! The legacy of Tim Keller goes DEEP...all one has to do is make a practice of listening to him talk - through his sermons, and hearing him in discussions with believers, and unbelievers, too. The man was truly touched by God. Don't we just know how warmly he must have been welcomed into heaven after his own "nice night's sleep"?
I will always feel profoundly blessed by his ministry. Thank you for your comment! 😊
I am Catholic and I concur. Some will be saints without the official blessing of the Church and Mr. Keller is one. His talk on Psalm 88 is profound. A psalm I reflect on every Friday night prayer….. he made it speak with clarity.
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@@jamesclarksowers7060wow, I will look at it
"If I have you by the hand, even death is just a nice night's sleep." WOW!
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@@victoriakenneth5441 , where's the Bishop?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ wow this can bring me some peace about my daddy
This is such a fantastic public lecture by Tim Keller. Simply amazing! Loved it!
Since I became born again in 2019 I got to experience the immense blessings of God. He has been kind to me in every area of my life, changed who I am and blessed me with more than I could have ever asked. But lately I’ve been faced with the reality of death, and that all the people I love will die. It made me question, why am I receiving such beautiful blessings, why are flowers so beautifully made, and the sun always rises and warms me; and then there is the overwhelming fact that my mom, brothers, and children will die. Why? But learning about suffering is very helpfully to understanding that this world was never meant to be my home. And suffering doesn’t diminish Gods love for me. I somehow, being a young Christian amongst God’s blessings expected only good things and a pain free life with God. But I’m hopeful to keep learning about God and the meaning and purpose of life and suffering.
Be encouraged, Ariah! Just finding you listening to brother Tim (who passed away in May of 2023) is a great strength and sign of wisdom! Way to go! Thank you for your testimony, honesty, and vulnerability - it is refreshing to those of us who travel long and get jaded and cranky. Don't pay attention to us! Remember Paul'ls prayer for you - inspired by the Holy Spirit: "May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it." 1 Thess 5:23-24
@@bobwho1986 Thank you. God bless
Suffering is an important aspect in a christians life because it humbles us. God taught us a great lesson in the life of Job.
People use Christians who don’t live up to standard as the reason for not believing in Christianity. I see their point. Although there are may Christians who inspire and many who disappoint, every Christian on the planet doesn’t live up to the standard that’s why Jesus came. Instead look at Jesus’ life in the gospels and use that as why you would believe or not. He ultimately is the one who saves you in the end. I would use someone who claimed to be God as my standard. The rest of us he promises to keep working on us and with us until that day. The kind of love Christ demonstrated when He was here has not been seen before or since. This is the love that changes lives!!
SeeShel_atTheBeach this is love that changes live-yes, very much so.
Tim you know it All, His will be done! You have won my heart , you answered exactly what l was struggling with after losing my beloved wife 39 yrs . Amazing man of God you answered everything. Lord be with you 🙏
I’m so sorry you lost your wife. Please know that I’ve prayed for you by name - may God appease your suffering, comfort you, and draw you near to Him. May He shine his face on you and bless you!
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Amazing, thank you Tim 😢❤
one of the first talks on Christianity that I find profound.
He is clear and thoughtful.
Timothy does a great job explaining all of his sermons. He gets it
Tim. I want to meet you and remember what it feels like to be in presence of honesty. You look like a true believer Larry Erie. He would invite me to his home along with his wife gladous. They would read the Bible in there porch overlooking lake dellwater where I was baptized. He and his wife along with nobodies like me made the Christian camp operate at the potential we were capable of making happen together. Now I am a persecuted son of God for reasons that don't add up. I have fallen in the hands of satins angels, the worst side of humanities characteristics. Bullies. "I have a story to tell" but it's painful
Stay strong, Christian man, "fix your eyes on Jesus..."
In my book He is utterly incredible. Was incredible 😢
Hearing this talk was freeing. Keller did a great job at reminding us that Jesus truly weeps with His beloved. Beautiful
@Paulo Lopez Lopez why don’t you just get the money for the orphanage yourself. You know you are sinning & being deceitful! GOD SEES YOU!
I’ve been avoiding listening to this preacher because I’ve heard he speaks a lot about suffering. I, on the other hand, prefer “feel good “ sermons. I’m coming to the realization that trying to avoid suffering is just simply not going to work. But also, that suffering may not be as disparaging as I’ve feared. It may, in a way, be a sort of conduit to something better. Something unattainable any other way. Anyway, I’m sort of starting to think that way.
Paul From Canada worldly suffering can become bearable and even insignificant only if we focus on the hereafter and eternal paradise.
Paul, you are a work in progress, and He will complete that which He has started in your life, and then you will be better able to minister to those who are following along behind you. May God bless you in your walk with Christ. "You shall come forth as gold, tried by the fire of the Holy Spirit, and never more the same."
Thomas Boston, a 17th-century theologian, wrote a book titled "The Crook in the Lot: The Sovereignty and Wisdom of God Displayed in the Afflictions of Men." (gotta love that title). It was reprinted in 2001 after 9/11 to re-address the question of suffering. If you can handle the somewhat archaic English and dry writing, it's an excellent read. As Doug Johnson commented, suffering is referred to as "Refiners Fire" and this perspective changes everything for the Christian. For those who reject the gospel message of Jesus, suffering and pain have no ultimate meaning.
I suffer. I hate it. I love it. Come to my channel. Discuss.
Find his podcast sermon called Accepting the Judge. It's my all time favorite.
I am so glad your sermons are on RUclips. I have been listening to you on the radio.
Moreover, I hope you are doing ok.
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As I walk with my wife to another home...after loss of much friendship and support...this message from Doctor Keller is comfort.
God bless you on your journey. He is always faithful in our darkest hours.
Seeking justice without forgiveness first is simply vengeance! How true...yet, how difficult a task! As always, thank you for sharing God's wisdom Tim!
MY LIFE has become sooo painful. EVERYDAY its something else. I am filled with fear daily. It won't stop. Its not physical either. I am a smart girl age 58, raised decently, well, technically without parents as my mom died at age 9. Dad checked out after that, he remarried a year later. Just need Him to come back nOW.
Did you come back? I'm ,,58 as well.
I would look into complex PTSD. The loss of your mother and your father checking out are both large traumas that can have long lasting subconscious effects. I hope you're doing better 🙏
AMEN!! only our God has suffered for us & knows our pain. Praise God
My dad would always keeping telling us to follow God so i always grew up on some speaking to me on the weekend now listing to him
...BB Warfield wrote an article called, The Emotional Life of Our Lord..and all it is is an in depth, detailed look at every place in the New Testament gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, - where ever it talks about the emotional life of Jesus...when he analysed it, far more than any other emotion, Jesus Christ is a Man of Sorrows. He's the Savior, but he is NOT Stoic. He's always weeping, He's always grieving, He's always moved with compassion, which is really a form of grief...Tim Keller's message, The Human Condition: Living When Life Hurts
And he was even angry and confrontational.
Ys would be great to hear Tim and Jordan . Plus with Richard Rohr
Thank you for a beautiful message...
Your message goes hand in hand with the book I am reading how to forgive what you can't forget.
Would be so interesting to see a long discussion between Keller and Jordan “life is suffering” Peterson.
Yes I'd like to hear that discussion too.
Nova Martin there now, does making up lies about someone make you feel better?
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Yes! I always rejoice when I see conversation between Christians and people who need Christ! Jordan is an intelligent man and I'm glad for his conservative views, but it is obvious he carries the weight of the world on his shoulders. We ought to be praying for him,
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Peterson's view would be that we should aim for the highest good, but only God is able to give you the ability to be "good"
Thank you for sharing this video !
My pastor talks only about healing. Nothing about suffering which is biblical. I live a life of horrible pain after suffering reactions to COvid. Awful. Suffering to some accuse us of being on sin. I don’t know how many times people have said that to me. It makes me feel so bad.
Do not feel bad, Shirley. God sees you, loves you and comforts you. Keep the most important relationship alive through prayer.
Wishing you, that you can see God's blessings especially for you.😇🙏
I got sick because of the vaccine Endless problems. sucks
@@robertboughton2059 I’m so sorry I also got the vacinne after I had covid. Big mistake! I’ve had severe sleep issues.
I highly recommend you read "Companions in suffering" by Wendy Alsup. It is a book of someone who has gone through ongoing suffering, wrestled with God in the process, and firsthand experienced the added "insult to injury" by christians who argue like Job's "friends (and the pastors you mentioned). It is a book that is faith deepening and it may help you. It is, true to its own title, a true companion in suffering. I am, by the way, also a Covid long hauler, slowly coming back to rebuilding my life after an insane time. I lost much, and definitely did have my share of wrestling with God. But my faith is deeper and stronger now, my understanding of the Gospel so much clearer. I would not want to trade it, despite the tears. It has been hard, but liberating. So, hang on; read, study, pray; dare to trust Him who gave His life for you. Allow him to change your faith away from the subtle versions of the prosperity gospel that most of us have ingrained unconciously. And don't let Job's friends tear you further down. They don't know what they are doing.
It sounds like it would be best for you to find a fellowship that teaches and preaches the whole Bible and encourages each other to walk with Jesus through all of life, knowing that He LOVES us.
Thank you for this amazing and timely message.. thanking God for his sovereign grace in all forms of suffering.
The best I have heard yet on suffering deep but so enlightening suffering in this world is only for a moment in time There is a plan if only people could believe in Christ and not the comical faiths yes over come evil with good I have not found a perfect church yet some of the so called christens are cruel thank you for this
'Who can straighten what he has made crooked?' There isn't anything I find from Jesus to suggest that one has to join a church to be saved. One might want to adopt a practice of church discipline in response to the love of God, one might want to avoid worldly temptations arising from fellowship. It seems evident that churches are subject to sin as much as any earthly institution. Still, church can be wonderful, 'with God all things are possible'.
Eyesayah thank you for that I do feel guilty for not being part of a fellowship I have tried but can only find faults that is my weakness I’m lonely in the spirit so I pray read and study the books and bible Husband a good man but can’t interact with people of the church I know when I pray Christ is with me prayers are answered in time when I feel sick I get healing
@@milels6917 It would be a blessing to you to drop that feeling of guilt. You might consider that you have the strongest possible fellowship with your husband, with which you are one flesh. You are also just slightly fellowshipping with me. However brief that is, it shows each of us has the ability, however weak, to connect with others. Keller has been helpful to me, allowing a stony heart a little softening. An unschooled uncle of mine once said to me, 'if you feel far from God, who moved?'. I say a closer walk is that soft heart that allows greater love. These are thoughts from a sinner in sunset years. You seem on the right path. God bless.
Great sermon
Great challenge!
I believe un answer prayers are God spearing us , or God is gonna give us something greater, or he’s trying to have us mature in our walks in faith .
Christianity s h o u l d provide healing, help from brothers and sisters.
When I committed to studying God's Word, I found that He has gifted certain people to teach about a particular character of Christian life and about a particular book in the Bible. God is awesome that way. He is faithful if we seek first the Kingdom of God and the rest will be added to you. But be very discerning who you are hearing from and that their message is alway lining up with Scripture. Only Scripture can interpret Scripture. Man can not.
@bishop kirby cement ??? Was this response meant for someone else?
RIP Keller
A true Christian has had a mystical experience with the Christ.
The church doesn't fail.
Member's of Jesus kningdom, the church, can fail. Individual congregations can fail.
But the church that Jesus built will never fail!
Matthew 16:15
Suffering is the result of Adam &Eve eating the fruit of knowing good and evil. God preceded evil then why would God allow this fruit into the garden? The answer is God needs us to choose love .There is nothing more miraculous than choosing good . God would not have it any other way. It’s not about the suffering but rather us willingly choosing God.
Yes, that's true always choose God. It is much easier choosing the Lord when things are going well. Look at Job, his life was full of suffering, Joseph, each of the apostles. I believe is so much more beautiful our testimony, when we suffer and still choose the Lord
you will be my kingdom of priests
Exodus 19:6
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be a holy priesthood,
to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God
through Jesus Christ
1 Peter 2:5
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you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood
1 Peter 2:9
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You have made them a kingdom and priests to our God
Revelation 5:10
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I will raise up for myself a faithful priest,
who shall do according to what is in my heart and in my mind.
And I will build him a sure house,
and he shall go in and out before my anointed forever.
1 Samuel 2
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there is neither male and female;
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:28
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according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,
in the sanctification of the Spirit,
for obedience to Jesus Christ
and for sprinkling with his blood:
Peter 1
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you have come to...
the sprinkled blood
Hebrews 12
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To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours
by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2 Peter 1
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His divine power has granted to us all things
that pertain to life and godliness,
through the knowledge of him
who called us to His own glory and excellence,
by which he has granted to us
his precious and very great promises,
so that through them
you may become partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped from the corruption that is in the world
because of sinful desire.
2 Peter 1
He’s my favorite teacher but I don’t like how he described the girl as near dead. What is this, The Princess Bride? Was she mostly dead? The text says she was dead. Period.
There are evil and suffering bc a perfect world would be boring? This is already the best we could have? The devil sinned even in heaven. So... could we have not sinned. I guess it was impossible
Boring & unchallengeable!!! Sadly to say but the human race needs good & evil!!! its what tests us & makes us stronger & brings us closer to the light!!! or the darkness....& more sad to say is that evil is what has really destroyed this beautiful god gifted planet called earth!!!!
If you get a brand new car, right from the dealership, and on the first drive the brakes fail and u crash, its dumb to go from that to say “no one made this car.” Instead we should say “something went wrong.” Same with God. Suffering, natural disasters, death... just because they happen u cant jump from that to “there is no God.” You have to seek out and figure out what went wrong.
@Timothy J Keller terrible, terrible way to advertise. Do not use God as a means of making money. Do not mix God’s name with lies. Do not falsely prophesy. I pray that God convicts you of the ways youve dishonored His name
But if God is a weeping savior, and he can know our sufferings before they happen, plus he loves us so much, does it mean that he is sad all the time? I mean if he is all knowing then he isn’t like what they say, he can’t be sad all the time for all these ppl that have existed and now exist. But if he isn’t why would some ppl at church always tell me when I’m sad that Jesus is sad that I’m sad, to show he cares? That he’s walking me through. It seems to me that it’ll just be too much for Jesus? I dunno. N when pastor Keller talks about how we leave God n all horrible things happened to us is like Hindu saying it’s not ur fault or what u did in this life. Is something I don know if I did. I just know I was designed this way. That I’m able to sin, maybe even sinning without knowing. N if the price to get back to God is to carry your own cross there’s no freedom in it nor given for free. For something so horrible happened to leave the one who loves me n now I have no choice because I was designed a certain way to thrive. And if I don’t get back to HIM horrible things will keep happening to me. N we learn the wisdom in the New Testament from Jesus to deal w. different kinds of ppl bc the pastors say it’s wise. But if u try to apply it in real life sometimes it doesn’t work as u would think bc my ppl could be worse(or maybe ppl in the world nowadays r worse in general) n u get hurt n mistreated bc of ur naivety.
chagiRenee , I’m not sure if I understand exactly, but in my own experience, one is not necessarily on the one hand sorrowful or on the other hand joyful. They are sometimes present quite simultaneously. I was happily, joyfully, married for 3 decades, and then came cancer. She suffered pain and physical dissolution and I suffered with her, and in the end, I lost her. I had to go on without her. Shockingly, though I miss her intensely, the joy I experience when contemplating the meaning, the blessing, the enriching she brought me, is something I never knew joy before, to the same intensity as as I did when she was physically present. I experience sorrow every day because of her absence, yet I experience what the Bible calls “fullness of joy” daily beyond anything before. Yes, I know it sounds crazy. But it is what it is. Does God suffer constantly? Yes. And he is yet the Fountain of Joy and Love. I hope will you will come to experience this, even if you can’t always explain it.
@@rampartranger7749 wow dude.
Wow. "anti-fragile." I'm all for a neologism when one is called for, such as "milktoastmaster," a weak public speaker, or "shuckster," a humble, but disingenuous salesman. We're fortunate that English has words like flexible, yielding, elastic and even the overused "tough," that have multiple connotations and ample meaning. I feel like we're always dumbing down the message. It's essential that we speak clearly and in a way all can understand, but we are God's workmanship, his artistry, and we are epistles of flesh, the living letters written to mankind. We need not only to convince the outsider, we need to inspire. There is beauty in holiness.
Its all hear say till actial Jesus show up or sctially exsist. In Bible Jesus even said to guy with just lipservice stay away from me and to who actally had deed & action thank you what he did was to other was did to him. From this content he horner not hypicrats or lip service(story teller withoutaction)
So according to his speach need actall deed or apparence in action not just story
only
But we do not see his actall appearance.
Jesus hated phypicrats teacher back then so am I . because phipicracy create so much pain suffaring in our world. That is not call love
His last commendment befor his cross Bible story so many doesnt obey today His ladt commendment was love eachother, not lie to each other not be phypicrat or not be only lip service egoistic.
Krishna in Hinduism also suffers with human beings too. I love Jesus too. 🙏🏾
Yea, he lived a completely different life though.
"she spent all her money on doctors and they only made it worse" lol how typical
Unanswered prayer?
God answers the prayers of Christians.
A man's perception that his prayer has not been answered, is from man not God.
The Christianity you have now teaches differently: since Jesus did all the suffering for us and you are now a born again new creature, you are not supposed to have any suffering. You are supposed to be healthy and wealthy or something is wrong with you. You are supposed to constantly confess how well you are, regardless how bad things are. Otherwise you are wrong.
They don't pray for others, more than so.
You are supposed to pray for yourself and if it does not work you are at fault.
Hogwash
no wonder many are depress. :-(
Gina Hochstein Prosperity Christianity is heresy
Huh????
Tim Keller had a major impact on bring “Wokism” to the American Christian Church, and the American National culture. I did us no good service.
The sad commentary on the reporter who said her research of those doing the most dangerous things to help others, caused her to recognize her secular view as causing her to be more upset over the suffering of others than those with a faith in the supernatural.
This sounds like the reason so many in the U.S.A. are subject to "virtue signalling."
If you believe your cause is just so stronly that you do not care to even hear the voices of those with a different take, you have a problem. But their "just causes" do not have thae proper godly, moral backing.
The sad part to me is that she seems to be acting like you are born secular, so there you go.
She instead should be noting the superiority of the godly view of the world and seek toward that herself.
Matthew 6 :33
Seek ye first the kingdom of God is the appropriate goal for every person on earth.
That's not relagion that's theraphy lol
This is a joe
Sorry but he called Hinduism a great world religion. Any religion that sends you to hell is not great.