Don't apply for jobs that say entry-level, or do if you want to, but the point is that even if you don't feel qualified, just apply, I got a full stack developer position a few weeks ago, they wanted a senior developer but hired me just because I showed that I was enthusiastic to learn new things and improve on the daily basis, don't disqualify yourself, just do it, the worst thing they can say is no.
@@pittyconor2489 don't be scared bro, I get what you say, but you have to be willing to be under uncomfortable situations, obviously if the job you are applying to is way out of your range of knowledge don't apply, but if you have to learn a new framework that's fine you can learn something like that pretty fast
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It makes me question the roles, responsibilities and capabilities of the HR. It's not a problem for us to check the developers' linkedin profile and infer the skills needed for the project. But I was just wondering, why can't the HR approach the department to get the actual required skillsets from them, instead of overinflating the required skills on their job portals
@@paulifea7072 another problem, A massive heap of companies that each require their own login page to get a job. I'm so sick of getting spam emails about companies that might consider holding a meeting in 40 days!!!
@@paulifea7072 they probably overinflate the skill sets to get a wider variety of applicants. HR probably knows little about coding, but still including all of these coding languages can get a larger pool of applicants
Think of 3-5 years kind of like a medical residency. A brand new cs or bootcamp graduate is still a risky hire - they have a high chance of not panning out due to not being good enough yet or them quitting on their own. Getting the first job is probably the most difficult, it takes a lot of perseverance, humility, and preparation. You will not have your pick of jobs, you’ll have to take what you can get. If you do get a job in Software, stay employed for at least 3 years if possible. Ideally in the same place. Don’t quit unless you have another job lined up. Learn as much as you can. Keep studying data structures and algorithms. Study system design / architecture. Study design patterns. Database design. Keep building side projects. Get good at writing clean code. Get good at testing your code. Get good at learning how to deploy your projects. After the 3 year mark, suddenly more companies, including FAANGs, will be inviting you to interview to work for them. From here on out, keep your interviewing skills relatively sharp, and you will have more choices on where to work. This has been my experience.
@@BrokeMyCrayon network. Go to coding meet ups regularly. There’s all kinds of opportunities that pop up from jobs, collaborations, mentoring, volunteer, coding study groups, references. Get really really good at the coding interview. You don’t have a lot of companies giving you a shot so if you get it make it count. Plus, no matter your level, coding interviews will still be part of the hiring process. So I say just get really good once and just keep sharp.
Yeah you are right about the second part - which doesn’t make sense on their part - because it’s obviously impossible to know someone's personality in one day.
Building your network really stuck out to me. With anything, knowing the right people can help out tremendously. I landed my first software engineering job because I worked at the company for nearly seven years in their warehouse. I was lucky enough to take a Full Stack Dev bootcamp, and then asked my boss if I could transition into the engineering department. I've been web developing officially for about six months now and absolutely love it!
It's still absurd and ridiculous that you have to do that because the US industrial base is so hollowed out by outsourcing and legacy ATS systems, and we have to build a literal empire just to put food on the table. It's insanity and nobody should tolerate it. The real solution is for the US economy to not be a neoliberal regime deliberately designed to give short-term benefit to your corporate masters at the expense of the lower classes' suffering and any sort of long-term gain. But that'll never change.
@@AboveTheInfluence2024 i love design too and i was debating on front end vs full stack. im just worried i wont get hired or ppl will want more full stack over front end :/
2 minutes in and you already earned a like. I have 2 years of experience in a developer position so far. I see a lot of adds that list their entire tech stack and say "we need someone who knows everything in this list". LOL.
They have tech recruiters now, they are specialized in understanding enough of the technology to do their jobs. I follow some of them on LinkedIn and some are pretty, at least more than average. But not every job requirement is written by HR. Sometimes it's the business owner/startup founder that has "a king in his belly" like we say in Brazil.
I work as an iOS dev for a fortune 100 company. 100% agree with this. Our job listing says UIKit/objective c/rxswift. In reality we use about 80% swiftui and 20% UIKit/rxswift… and all of that 20% has tickets to migrate to swiftui. We have 0% objective c which we say is a required skill and have 80% swiftui which is not mentioned in our listing.
How many projects should you have on your portfolio before applying to your first dev job? I'm asking as someone with zero programming experience who just started learning iOS.
I'm a self taught programmer, and I've been applying for tons of jobs without much response from anyone. This video was really useful, I feel more motivated than I did before.
Really grateful for you posting this. Currently working on Python 3 practice after learning HTML & CSS. All of the projects, learning about the job, lingo, best-practices, making portfolios, uffff etc etc. It's a lot, but I appreciate videos like this that make my goal feel way more achievable.
Sounds like you might as well start applying for jobs. Maybe get a bit of JavaScript under your belt but even before then, I figure you’ll at least get an interview.
when I had interviews after graduating, a lot of the interviewers wouldn't care much about my experience as much as they would focus on my excitement to work as a developer and willingness to learn in work
He draws a distinction between the skill requirements that the employer *claims* you need in the *job listing* , and the skill requirements you *actually* would need to *do the job* .
I've been so hard on myself. I haven't even tried to get internships or even *apply* to certain positions just because I never felt like I knew enough. I'm self-taught, and I've worked on countless personal projects over the past few years with artificial neural networks. I'd like to say I know quite a bit about certain topics by now, so I think all I need to do is make that portfolio and show that I have a strong passion for the subject, can think like a problem solver, and am willing to push limits of AI.
Same, bruh. 😭 I have been putting off applying for jobs based on the job listings alone. I feel like I will never know enough of what they want to look for in an applicant.
@@JordanMetroidManiac hey b ro, i would like to know moer about you, and how did you study AI and neuronal networks, that´s something i would like to learn, I feel like i dont know how to start with it. Thanks, I hope you´re ok
I’m from Brazil 🇧🇷 and I’m self taught, actually I’m studying environment engineering, but this year I tried new things and I love tech environment and now I’m studying by myself to become a developer 🥰 Thank you for your video!
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Loved your take on (HR written) job postings. As a recruiter I try my best to make any interaction with a candidate a value add....and not sound like an idiot. Would be dope if you had a video about good vs bad experiences with recruiters! ✊🏽
Start with not calling it a "value add". Valuable. Beneficial. Informative. Fun. Don't gotta nominalize everything, it makes you sound like a lizard. That aside, I checked out your channel and you seem like a dope dude. Respect.
I would advise HR people to actually know/have some background/at least interest about the industry they want to manage, most of the HR people I see are your classical college girl, super nice, sweet and welcoming but they lack any sort of knoweldge about the actual task and skills you need to do everyday, without actually doing the job or having put you in the shoes of the workers how can you be fit the know who would make a great worker or not, just common sense really
@@antoinebguitar2869 Great point. This is probably one of the main points I drive in my channel. From an IT Recruiting standpoint, it does me no good to ask an Engineer "On a scale of 1-10, how proficient are you in Java/C#/Python/etc.?" They can tell me 11.284 out of 10. But as someone who cant code, there is no way to comprehend the answer. So I focus on "What are you doing with the code" type of questions. --> What's the project, the application (internal/external), end user, use cases, etc. From there I can understand the type of data involved and gauge their level of input....*Ends Rant* lol
start building a portfolio app now. Web, phone,api, game, whatever. just make something ASAP and improve and polish it as much as you can from now until you get hired. make it look as pro as possible. start bow and you won't be so stressed while you're filling out applications and taking code tests. trust me. build something now. start. your bank account will thank you later.
The problem with a lot of internships in my field is that they only hire students for them. I'm too old to get most internships and I was an idiot and decided to get a masters instead of a job out of undergrad.
Don't discount your masters...?!?!?!!???? Maybe look at where you were going with that and continue through doctorate? Could do in a completely different field
The trick is APPLY for everything and hopefully someone will contact you! It happens, sometimes they are flexible because HR has no idea but if you are willing to help and solve problems they might have you can get something, good luck Devs!!
My company hires entry-level developers all the time. I was entry-level and so were all of my co-workers. The company tests for aptitude and trains in whatever technology is required for the role.
Thank you! I needed this video as I was recently laid off from my company. I find that having just under 1 year of professional industry experience makes it a bit confusing to know what roles to apply for!
Yes, job postings have become a meme, when HR is really disconnected from what the job actually requires and the hiring employer just neglects the importance of detailing the specifics to HR. It really affects everyone and it's sad.
Remember you don't need to be the best candidate ever. What you actually just need to be is the best of the applicants. Every employer wants a graduate from Harvard college that works for minimum wage, but sometimes a company just need someone to do the work.
I was listening to this in the background, and when the 5 minute mark arrived and he said, ok, that's it, I was like 'wait, what????' Tabbed to the video and saw the empty 'next video' fields (that he actually edited into the video) and burst out laughing; that was funny. Anyway, I've been learning web dev a few months now an have no idea how to approach the application side of things once I feel ready. This was very helpful, thank you!
Thank you for the video. In a "different life" I programmed a very antiquated language FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslanation), which was popular in the 1960s and 1970s, with punch cards at one time!! (In the version I started in not only did we not have objects - we did not even have records. Hence for each object such as a person, you had dozens in un-associated and poorly named variables.) I found myself totally unfamiliar with the 100s of new "technologies", and am once again trying to get a programming job now that about 6 years of parent-care is behind me. I've developed skills with numerous languages and tools (Java, Javascript, Spring, Vue, Git-Github, Rest, Soap, Eclipse) and familiarity with dozens of others. (Angular vs. Angular JS, React, the MEAN stack, etc.) but find most job descriptions daunting. It's always about how much experience you have - and I regularly have recruiters who ask me to apply for senior level positions. I'd pay the dang recruiting companies for an internship, but they dont seem to exist. (The one I did see, the Junior Mentoring Program "Jump" program, wasnt interested if you weren't just out of college. My degree is decades old.) I was hopeful I'd get an offer after getting the associate Java SE 8 certification (cert) and then the professional Java SE 8 cert, but these did little. My current plan is to get the basic (practitioner) and developer AWS certifications. These seem to be asked about often in job postings and interviews. I do well at certifications and studying books, but am not sure even these certs will help. Any other thoughts appreciated. Is there a good Spring certification?
Ive been loving your videos and watching a lot of them lately. I’m about to finish high school and am gonna try to get my foot in the door with my non professional experience. I was hoping you would touch up on self taught and non web development jobs.
😂😂😂the fact that I actually closed my RUclips app at the 5 minute mark because I thought it was over and slept💀💀. Just opened RUclips now and fortunately it was still on your video 😂❤.
Filter gets me every time. Uni grad with a First Class Honours degree and they still toss me aside. Had one today that said they liked my background, but rejected me.
Unfrtunately, getting your own projects is not enough nowadays. You also need to be perfect for the job you apply to, or they will choose someone better. Getting a junior soft dev job is a lottery. You have to get really lucky, even after all the hard work you putting doing all the courses and projects. Don’t quit your job unless you’ve actually landed a soft dev job and have a contract offer from the employer. Else you could be unemployed for a long time.
That’s not true man. People applying for 100+ companies probably have a very bad or no portfolio. I can’t believe that they wouldn’t take a dev that knows react, mongo and how to access an API. If you have a project showing that, you should be good to go.
@@ggg-ox3hr I didn't realise that react, mongo and accessing an API could all be learned really easily in a short amount of time [sarcasm]. All I'm saying is that, don't quit your job until you know exactly what you're getting yourself into and it's what you actually want to do. And you are good at it. And you've got a job offer for the job you want.
@@adamrubinson6875 Yea for sure. I recently read an article where someone that finished a bootcamp sent out 300+ applications before their first offer. Plenty of questions left unanswered such as their portfolio, interview skills etc.
my very first job fresh out of college was also a senior position. I asked the recruiter "you sure i am the right fit?" and they answered "How would I know, why don't you just try?" ... I did that because I had a "fuck it" attitude and funnily enough not only did I get the job, but the guy who gave it to me, was so fascinated by me that he immediately raises my salary above what I even wanted.
Thanks for what you said about job listings. I'm self taught and considering one final push to get into the industry. I'm already more or less qualified for a junior position but I need to finish up and learn a stack rather than just the fundamentals of a few languages. So far I applied to one job and totally bombed on the interview. Apparently there was a miscommunication about what the job actually was, yet this was not discussed until the 4th interview which was a group panel.
Can confirm, job listings are bs. When i got offered the job im currently at, i went back and looked at the actual listing. And its no where even near what im doing lol.
I am a computer science student but I feel like all I’m learning is how to answer questions for the course and I don’t understand how to will apply to any actual job if there is any information on this or how to transition what I learn into the “real world” I would love to hear it. Thank you.
the thing is that you have to be the right kind of person, the people working at FANG or any other high dev position are born to be those people, they have the right mind and personality to work for years and being competent at solving problems. You don't learn any of that in school, it cannot be taught, you either are competent in the field or you're not.
Im finishing a masters degree and still dont feel that im ready at all for a job since all u do is do courseworks that have no relations to real life jobs, imo education is just a money sink at this point, im £75k in debt and cant get a job :) now self learning web dev to land anything cause my degrees don’t matter (CS and MSc)
@@dominikkomar9170 shit same here ... minus the debt part ... I'm completing my MSC in the next 5 months ... and i need a job . So im here looking for web development stuff ..... Science courses can be shit when it comes to job prospects . 😶🌫️
Hey Forrest! Current software dev student, set to graduate in the Spring. Something I'm curious to get your opinion on: What can I do to make myself feel more ready to go into the professional world? I had a handful of personal projects and managed to land a dev job from that, but I was in over my head and flame out after a year. Went back to school after that, and while I do feel like I know a lot more now than I did then, I don't feel like I have all of the gaps filled in that I expected to by the time I finished up. It still feels like there's a lot of stuff I should know that I don't, so I'm getting very anxious about re-entering the professional world. Thank you for any advice!
The feeling that your knowledge is incomplete is normal. No one has complete knowledge, and those that think they do are sorely mistaken. What matters is if you have *enough* knowledge. Enough of the basics and the more complex stuff in your head to actually be useful.
i felt this on a spiritual level. Literally in the exact same boat with the exact same thoughts. All things aside, knowledge is endless so i say we just gotta be confident and learn more along the way. Good luck on graduation and beyond! you got this.
Anybody here in 2024 wondering whether "entry level jobs" will even be a thing in software going forward? Why not just have an experienced developer organizing and overseeing a few coding bots? If every developer's productivity is 2 or 3 x'd because of AI, that's half (or less) the amount of jobs needed to do the same amount of work.
I’m a senior in college and I haven’t had any internships before because I actually switched majors twice. I’m really struggling to find internships and it’s already late in the season.
It's amazing how depressing and stupid the "junior" or "entrt-level" job posts are: I found one that asked for: HTML, CSS and Javscript (ok, seems obvious) Typescript (expectable) React (interesting) Angular (ok...) Vue (dude don't you think you asking for a little too much?) SQL (that isn't even frontend what the hell) +2 years of verifiable experience ( 😶🌫 )
I need one that is: I got the Job, but they switched teams and now I have no clue what I'm doing. Also they want me to learn Java and I just hate it, pls help.
@@johnyepthomi892 I was working in Cobol, I just said yes because it was either that or getting fired. I am gonna learn it, but I just can't seem to reformat my mind to understand it
I graduated from a bootcamp in February, and I've been sending out applications like crazy. One interview so far, but they wanted someone more senior, and I've gotten nothing else back. I've got all the pieces together, a polished resume, portfolio, massive Linkedin network, I'm going to meetups and doing hackathons. I'm not sure why I'm not getting responses other than that they might just be finding better candidates? It's been tough. Thanks for the perspective!
You can get paid waaay more than 6k a month as an intern, depending on where you intern. Edit: For people asking me where. FinTech and Big Tech internships pay anywhere between 6-10k a month. I only have experience with 2 such companies (Goldman Sachs and Amazon) and both of them offered me way over 6k.
I am looking at a few companies, 2 in particular cause for 1: I met one of their lead developers in my apartment complex and a good friend too. That company uses stuff from our company relating to Astronomical data. Which is kinda funny cause they would have never happened if he didn't mention a product the scientists setup. The second company seems to have a need for Mathematica and OOP C++ programming skills and a bit deeper computational science as well. The computational part usually needs a Masters or some certificate. I've been looking at those things
So hard to get hired. Graduated in August and still applying but nothing yet. I have an associates in Web development so maybe that's why it's harder. Lots of the listing want bachelor or master degree
i absolutely agree to all the words mentioned in this video .. also competition is so high that even best skilled candidates dont get recruited in the first place . Reference building is a must have skill and problem with that also is that either someone recommends your work or you hv an eye catching portfolio to start with.. in all cases, tough luck for freshers😢 My fellow developer friends, keep trying hard and we shall achieve the best😊
It's time to write a comment :) First: I realy like your hair Mr. Knight. Then there is my experience of getting job offers as a dev. I have no college degree in CS or similiar. I spent two years digin through documentations and find solutions for my problems ,and very important got a working product ready to ship. If you can show your new boss that you can do the job even before you got into the company, you got it. My last job I got because I have written a service that your sponsor provides by myself. And to be honest. Learn how to host your stuff by yourself.
Should i go for an internship if im 1 year post graduation? I couldn't get one during college for multiple reasons, and am having trouble finding actual entry level jobs.
For me, it's just rejections after rejections, without even consideration for any interview. For jobs I am qualified for. Sometimes I just feel like giving up.
Don't give up, you can do it! If you put in the needed effort - you will get a job! Maybe you can somehow improve you resume, portfolio etc. There is always a way to make something better! I hope you will get the job you want as soon as possible!
I just started learning HTML and CSS. I absolutely love it. Can i get a job with no degree if I am proficient with these two languages? I plan on learning more also. I want to provide for my family doing something I enjoy. Im sold on coding.
I saw a listing saying must be proficient in C++, Java, and C#. Goes on to say, experience with HTML, JavaScript and CSS is a plus..... it was a front end position..
I am self taught in various tech stacks and just recently earned a computer science degree to expand my knowledge from a reputable school out here in California and I am finding it extremely hard to get a response from anybody. I am starting to question if this career path was the right choice. With bills and student loans lurking in the distance I am feeling disenfranchised.
Does the HR dept. in tech companies actually work together with the Managers in what they are looking for in an applicant? It doesn't seem like they do, though.
9:00 I never understood the percentages when I was other people's portfolios lol like how do you even gauge that? Otherwise, great video! My mentor kept it short and sweet with me, he said "build things... learn and build something for everything you know". I took a long break from the self-taught journey and am gonna hop back on the train soon because I really wanna work in this field!
Hey man, thanks for making that video. You touched on a lot of things that I think is going to be very helpful when I make this career change. I’m moving over to software development from sales and marketing. I’m done with running sales offices, and being a babysitter, all day long. Your comments on the internship were awesome, I think a lot of people don’t put stock into the fact that that’s just building your skills and the importance of building a network. Anyways, thanks again for the video. Maybe we’ll work on something together someday.
these type of videos are only good at creating false hope. the reality of getting your foot into the door is MUCH more difficult than any of these videos allude to. Do some people get lucky? right place, right time? sure. but it is a very low percentage of people. i have work experience in several IT fields, even in software testing so i am familiar with couple of programming languages and tools. Finished a full stack coding bootcamp, have a portfolio that was highly approved by the bootcamp instructor , and yet here I am 8 months later about 500 applications in(probably 300 are solely software dev) without one actual programming interview. Theres about 400+ people applying for every entry level dev job and with all these tech layoffs theres even more competition. hopefully you have better luck, but just a heads up
Im in my first year of a computer programming bachelors program. Realistically, is there a minimum skill level i should have before starting to look for internships? Ive learned the basics of html, css, javascript, java, and python, but i havent done any large projects or learned how to integrate user interface into my java and python. Is it worth shooting my shot at some internships i see posted?
Definitely, Well I haven't started uni yet as I have taken a small pause. In this pause am literally shooting my shot and applying for most suitable Developer jobs I see. So please apply cause the worst that can happen is you not getting an internship but with a lot of feedback that you will use to improve yourself. You don't have anything to lose..... And this will be great because in your second year of Uni you may apply to the same companies and may know what the company really looks for while hiring.
If you’re in the US, a lot of the BIG tech companies have internships for underclassmen. They don’t expect as much of you at this point in your schooling, so try those. However it is late in the season so most spots will be filled. A better idea might be to do freelance work or find a local company that has a relatively minimal need for tech and help them out. It’s a lot easier to aim lower, and it can get you experience working with a team or at least the beginnings of a portfolio that you can point to and say “I made that”. To your original question, many tech companies don’t even consider underclassmen. Your first data structures and algorithms class is generally something you’ll get to as a sophomore, depending on your university, and that’s the bare minimum you’d be expected to know.
Honestly if you’re in university just taking level 3 programming class, a database class, a data struct & algorithm class, should get you prepared for most internships. So about sophomore - early junior year.
@@jarrellidk agree, minus the database part. That’s not necessarily something everyone takes, especially by junior year. I’ve got friends who never touched that class and are at FAANG companies now, at my university that is an elective upper level programming class. So I don’t think we can generalize that as a requirement. Where I’m at, there’s the main programming track that everyone must complete with 3 classes, and those are prereqs to all higher levels. There’s also a parallel track of required low-level programming that starts from the hardware level and goes up from there. By the time you complete both tracks, you’re done with your sophomore year and you’ve learned Java, C and some Assembly. I like that strategy a lot. This last paragraph is just me over sharing and contains no specific advice
In a good company, an interview is done by an engineer, not HR. If you're interviewed by an HR, who only wants to hear answers to the questions like he's googling stuff - run. Run from that interview and that company ASAP!
whoever stumbles upon this comment (Also future me), I have a great advice for you: RUN! don't engage in the job world. it's not worth it. if u have more than 1gram of self-respect get into business, sell shit! don't work A DAY in your life I know, you might starve to death. but just get a part time job or fulltime only if you have to! this is a warning from someone who's burnt out of bullshit job world, take it seriously - it's for your own good
Don't apply for jobs that say entry-level, or do if you want to, but the point is that even if you don't feel qualified, just apply, I got a full stack developer position a few weeks ago, they wanted a senior developer but hired me just because I showed that I was enthusiastic to learn new things and improve on the daily basis, don't disqualify yourself, just do it, the worst thing they can say is no.
junior roles are just a way to pay people less for the same role
@@TouchedAlot you're right, that's why I don't recommend applying to junior positions
what if you get it and then you cant do it then they get mad. im scared of that kind of interactions
@@pittyconor2489 don't be scared bro, I get what you say, but you have to be willing to be under uncomfortable situations, obviously if the job you are applying to is way out of your range of knowledge don't apply, but if you have to learn a new framework that's fine you can learn something like that pretty fast
Congrats on the new job :)
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Thank You. I always get extremely discouraged when I see all the requirements for some Entry Level Jobs. This was a huge help.
Yes, so much
It makes me question the roles, responsibilities and capabilities of the HR. It's not a problem for us to check the developers' linkedin profile and infer the skills needed for the project. But I was just wondering, why can't the HR approach the department to get the actual required skillsets from them, instead of overinflating the required skills on their job portals
@@paulifea7072 another problem,
A massive heap of companies that each require their own login page to get a job. I'm so sick of getting spam emails about companies that might consider holding a meeting in 40 days!!!
@@paulifea7072 HR is always lazy.
@@paulifea7072 they probably overinflate the skill sets to get a wider variety of applicants. HR probably knows little about coding, but still including all of these coding languages can get a larger pool of applicants
Think of 3-5 years kind of like a medical residency. A brand new cs or bootcamp graduate is still a risky hire - they have a high chance of not panning out due to not being good enough yet or them quitting on their own. Getting the first job is probably the most difficult, it takes a lot of perseverance, humility, and preparation. You will not have your pick of jobs, you’ll have to take what you can get.
If you do get a job in Software, stay employed for at least 3 years if possible. Ideally in the same place. Don’t quit unless you have another job lined up. Learn as much as you can. Keep studying data structures and algorithms. Study system design / architecture. Study design patterns. Database design. Keep building side projects. Get good at writing clean code. Get good at testing your code. Get good at learning how to deploy your projects.
After the 3 year mark, suddenly more companies, including FAANGs, will be inviting you to interview to work for them. From here on out, keep your interviewing skills relatively sharp, and you will have more choices on where to work. This has been my experience.
Thank you for the well thought out advice. Any additional comments on getting that first initial job?
@@BrokeMyCrayon network. Go to coding meet ups regularly. There’s all kinds of opportunities that pop up from jobs, collaborations, mentoring, volunteer, coding study groups, references.
Get really really good at the coding interview. You don’t have a lot of companies giving you a shot so if you get it make it count. Plus, no matter your level, coding interviews will still be part of the hiring process. So I say just get really good once and just keep sharp.
Any suggestions on side projects?
Thank you!!
Please don’t take it personally if you get rejected for a dev job. Some of those jobs are looking for a very specific individual.
Just call it out as it is they be looking for ripple with super powers
@@Mysterious.phanto some people have coding super powers 😂
I need to hear this frfr 😮💨🥲
The hardest part is convincing yourself you're ready
From my experience at interviews the 2 things they’re looking for is what you’ve been working on recently and whether they “like you”
That second part though 😂😂
@@pablitocodes literal words spoken by interviewers 😅 they were talking about the next step, meeting the board members
Yeah you are right about the second part - which doesn’t make sense on their part - because it’s obviously impossible to know someone's personality in one day.
Building your network really stuck out to me. With anything, knowing the right people can help out tremendously. I landed my first software engineering job because I worked at the company for nearly seven years in their warehouse. I was lucky enough to take a Full Stack Dev bootcamp, and then asked my boss if I could transition into the engineering department. I've been web developing officially for about six months now and absolutely love it!
Bro I love hearing these success stories, I am working at making a change currently as well 🤘
if you are in a low population area, networking is impossible.
It's still absurd and ridiculous that you have to do that because the US industrial base is so hollowed out by outsourcing and legacy ATS systems, and we have to build a literal empire just to put food on the table. It's insanity and nobody should tolerate it.
The real solution is for the US economy to not be a neoliberal regime deliberately designed to give short-term benefit to your corporate masters at the expense of the lower classes' suffering and any sort of long-term gain. But that'll never change.
May i ask what bootcamp you took and how long it took to complete
@@cityofsandwiches3141 of course! I took the UCSD Full Stack Development Bootcamp. I believe it was 6 months, 4 days a week.
I'm a self taught Front-End Developer and I really want a job. this video has helped me a lot thank you!!!
what made you choose front end over full stack?
@@gingerbreadsticks 🤷🏾♂️ I love design. Not saying I wouldn't become full stack but rn I'm Front-end
@@AboveTheInfluence2024 i love design too and i was debating on front end vs full stack. im just worried i wont get hired or ppl will want more full stack over front end :/
@@gingerbreadsticks tbh I already have future clients just because I showed like one or two projects. No matter what you choose I'm sure it'll be fin
Good luck man!
2 minutes in and you already earned a like. I have 2 years of experience in a developer position so far. I see a lot of adds that list their entire tech stack and say "we need someone who knows everything in this list". LOL.
There should be a program, feature, or website that helps HR people list the appropriate skills for the programming job they're listing.
They have tech recruiters now, they are specialized in understanding enough of the technology to do their jobs. I follow some of them on LinkedIn and some are pretty, at least more than average.
But not every job requirement is written by HR. Sometimes it's the business owner/startup founder that has "a king in his belly" like we say in Brazil.
Interesting phrase lol I have to look that up
I work as an iOS dev for a fortune 100 company. 100% agree with this. Our job listing says UIKit/objective c/rxswift.
In reality we use about 80% swiftui and 20% UIKit/rxswift… and all of that 20% has tickets to migrate to swiftui.
We have 0% objective c which we say is a required skill and have 80% swiftui which is not mentioned in our listing.
+1 Experienced the same myself; is your company hiring experienced iOS devs? 😛
@@joolean7799 yeah I think we have one P2 spot open with a few candidates being interviewed now
How many projects should you have on your portfolio before applying to your first dev job? I'm asking as someone with zero programming experience who just started learning iOS.
3-5 projects
@@johanhellberg9677 That’s a lot of projects. I don’t even have that many project ideas at this point.
"Entry level job"
- Bs computer science
- 3 years of software engineering experience
- High level knowledge: Python, javascript, html, css, sql, nosql, c++, c#. (All Required)
I'm a self taught programmer, and I've been applying for tons of jobs without much response from anyone. This video was really useful, I feel more motivated than I did before.
So, any luck till now?
Any luck ?
no response means no luck or he's so busy he can't reply LOL
Any luck?
You can do it!!!!
Really grateful for you posting this. Currently working on Python 3 practice after learning HTML & CSS. All of the projects, learning about the job, lingo, best-practices, making portfolios, uffff etc etc. It's a lot, but I appreciate videos like this that make my goal feel way more achievable.
What stage are you at now?
Sounds like you might as well start applying for jobs. Maybe get a bit of JavaScript under your belt but even before then, I figure you’ll at least get an interview.
@@Stinkmeaner420obongo
when I had interviews after graduating, a lot of the interviewers wouldn't care much about my experience as much as they would focus on my excitement to work as a developer and willingness to learn in work
A Real Meme=
""Make Entry Level Job Entry Level""
>don't worry about the skill requirements.
>you have to have the skills they ask for.
Pick one.
He draws a distinction between the skill requirements that the employer *claims* you need in the *job listing* , and the skill requirements you *actually* would need to *do the job* .
I've been so hard on myself. I haven't even tried to get internships or even *apply* to certain positions just because I never felt like I knew enough. I'm self-taught, and I've worked on countless personal projects over the past few years with artificial neural networks. I'd like to say I know quite a bit about certain topics by now, so I think all I need to do is make that portfolio and show that I have a strong passion for the subject, can think like a problem solver, and am willing to push limits of AI.
Same, bruh. 😭 I have been putting off applying for jobs based on the job listings alone. I feel like I will never know enough of what they want to look for in an applicant.
@@Peanut_Butter135 Yeah, good luck! Seems like all we need to do is apply ourselves and understand what we are capable of.
Is your avatar a from a handheld Metroid game?
@@nursegilbey It is pixel art in Minecraft from over 10 years ago, not done by me.
@@JordanMetroidManiac hey b ro, i would like to know moer about you, and how did you study AI and neuronal networks, that´s something i would like to learn, I feel like i dont know how to start with it. Thanks, I hope you´re ok
I’m from Brazil 🇧🇷 and I’m self taught, actually I’m studying environment engineering, but this year I tried new things and I love tech environment and now I’m studying by myself to become a developer 🥰
Thank you for your video!
Seria massa um grupo Br com gente que já trabalha fora para passar info. Eu trabalho em uma empresa de tecnologia brasileira e tô começando a pesquisar sobre empregos fora
Hello, a Brazilian here!
Nice!!
Greetings from here!
Success.
Loved your take on (HR written) job postings. As a recruiter I try my best to make any interaction with a candidate a value add....and not sound like an idiot. Would be dope if you had a video about good vs bad experiences with recruiters! ✊🏽
Start with not calling it a "value add". Valuable. Beneficial. Informative. Fun. Don't gotta nominalize everything, it makes you sound like a lizard.
That aside, I checked out your channel and you seem like a dope dude. Respect.
@@ethanrogers9627 Much appreciated! ✊🏽
I would advise HR people to actually know/have some background/at least interest about the industry they want to manage, most of the HR people I see are your classical college girl, super nice, sweet and welcoming but they lack any sort of knoweldge about the actual task and skills you need to do everyday, without actually doing the job or having put you in the shoes of the workers how can you be fit the know who would make a great worker or not, just common sense really
@@antoinebguitar2869 Great point. This is probably one of the main points I drive in my channel. From an IT Recruiting standpoint, it does me no good to ask an Engineer "On a scale of 1-10, how proficient are you in Java/C#/Python/etc.?" They can tell me 11.284 out of 10. But as someone who cant code, there is no way to comprehend the answer. So I focus on "What are you doing with the code" type of questions. --> What's the project, the application (internal/external), end user, use cases, etc. From there I can understand the type of data involved and gauge their level of input....*Ends Rant* lol
@@deaconspeaks7531 hahaha I was just asked today the scale question. I was confused about it lol.
Great video I'm only 6 classes away from finishing my CS degree so this definitely helps.
Good job!
Me too!!!
start building a portfolio app now. Web, phone,api, game, whatever. just make something ASAP and improve and polish it as much as you can from now until you get hired. make it look as pro as possible. start bow and you won't be so stressed while you're filling out applications and taking code tests.
trust me. build something now. start. your bank account will thank you later.
Congrats! Good luck on the job search
Let’s gooo I’m close to getting my associates in CS In June let’s goo
The problem with a lot of internships in my field is that they only hire students for them. I'm too old to get most internships and I was an idiot and decided to get a masters instead of a job out of undergrad.
Don't discount your masters...?!?!?!!???? Maybe look at where you were going with that and continue through doctorate? Could do in a completely different field
I started my masters before I could get a real job.
I've been feeling down because of the nonstop rejections. This video was clutch and inspirational
The trick is APPLY for everything and hopefully someone will contact you! It happens, sometimes they are flexible because HR has no idea but if you are willing to help and solve problems they might have you can get something, good luck Devs!!
My company hires entry-level developers all the time. I was entry-level and so were all of my co-workers. The company tests for aptitude and trains in whatever technology is required for the role.
What's the company.
@@ageco.6896 please…
do you mind, if you mentioned the name of the company please?
Yeah company that only exist in dream
Thank you! I needed this video as I was recently laid off from my company. I find that having just under 1 year of professional industry experience makes it a bit confusing to know what roles to apply for!
Hope you’re family is doing well! I’m good over here! Thank you
I get my CS degree in 3 weeks. This definitely helps. I just moved to Houston and I don’t even know where to start.
How’s it going with life as of right now? Did you land yourself a job yet?
Lol, " we want the best."
Well thinking that,
we should build a website targeting " HR people " and troll them with weird skills.
Yes, job postings have become a meme, when HR is really disconnected from what the job actually requires and the hiring employer just neglects the importance of detailing the specifics to HR. It really affects everyone and it's sad.
Remember you don't need to be the best candidate ever. What you actually just need to be is the best of the applicants. Every employer wants a graduate from Harvard college that works for minimum wage, but sometimes a company just need someone to do the work.
Thank you for the advice I am going to keep trying to learn and not get so overwhelmed
My company posted an entry level full stack developer position requiring Ruby, Java, Javascript, Python, C#, PHP, C++, and Swift xd
And then the actual job is doing CSS styling hahaha
@@coleredfearn4042 precisely
Wtf lol they hiring gods
They want a fucking robot then
with 3-5 years of experience in using each technology
I agree with this video. CS or programming job is not to be BS into. Great idea about having a portfolio, I think that maybe my first thing to do....
There are many videos on youtube with the article like this, but this one makes sense. great job
I was listening to this in the background, and when the 5 minute mark arrived and he said, ok, that's it, I was like 'wait, what????'
Tabbed to the video and saw the empty 'next video' fields (that he actually edited into the video) and burst out laughing; that was funny.
Anyway, I've been learning web dev a few months now an have no idea how to approach the application side of things once I feel ready. This was very helpful, thank you!
Thank you for the video. In a "different life" I programmed a very antiquated language FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslanation), which was popular in the 1960s and 1970s, with punch cards at one time!! (In the version I started in not only did we not have objects - we did not even have records. Hence for each object such as a person, you had dozens in un-associated and poorly named variables.) I found myself totally unfamiliar with the 100s of new "technologies", and am once again trying to get a programming job now that about 6 years of parent-care is behind me.
I've developed skills with numerous languages and tools (Java, Javascript, Spring, Vue, Git-Github, Rest, Soap, Eclipse) and familiarity with dozens of others. (Angular vs. Angular JS, React, the MEAN stack, etc.) but find most job descriptions daunting. It's always about how much experience you have - and I regularly have recruiters who ask me to apply for senior level positions. I'd pay the dang recruiting companies for an internship, but they dont seem to exist. (The one I did see, the Junior Mentoring Program "Jump" program, wasnt interested if you weren't just out of college. My degree is decades old.)
I was hopeful I'd get an offer after getting the associate Java SE 8 certification (cert) and then the professional Java SE 8 cert, but these did little. My current plan is to get the basic (practitioner) and developer AWS certifications. These seem to be asked about often in job postings and interviews. I do well at certifications and studying books, but am not sure even these certs will help. Any other thoughts appreciated. Is there a good Spring certification?
Ive been loving your videos and watching a lot of them lately. I’m about to finish high school and am gonna try to get my foot in the door with my non professional experience. I was hoping you would touch up on self taught and non web development jobs.
We will have to rely heavily on your portfolio and finish projects, so you have some tangible proof of what you are capable of
😂😂😂the fact that I actually closed my RUclips app at the 5 minute mark because I thought it was over and slept💀💀.
Just opened RUclips now and fortunately it was still on your video 😂❤.
I believe that, your interest is important, how anxious you are to get started
Filter gets me every time. Uni grad with a First Class Honours degree and they still toss me aside. Had one today that said they liked my background, but rejected me.
Unfrtunately, getting your own projects is not enough nowadays. You also need to be perfect for the job you apply to, or they will choose someone better. Getting a junior soft dev job is a lottery. You have to get really lucky, even after all the hard work you putting doing all the courses and projects. Don’t quit your job unless you’ve actually landed a soft dev job and have a contract offer from the employer. Else you could be unemployed for a long time.
What country are you from? I'm just asking because I'm sure this is not the case everywhere
That’s not true man. People applying for 100+ companies probably have a very bad or no portfolio. I can’t believe that they wouldn’t take a dev that knows react, mongo and how to access an API. If you have a project showing that, you should be good to go.
@@ggg-ox3hr I didn't realise that react, mongo and accessing an API could all be learned really easily in a short amount of time [sarcasm]. All I'm saying is that, don't quit your job until you know exactly what you're getting yourself into and it's what you actually want to do. And you are good at it. And you've got a job offer for the job you want.
@@Ctrl_Alt_Elite The UK. I think it depends on your background, life situation and a bunch of other real-life factors.
@@adamrubinson6875 Yea for sure. I recently read an article where someone that finished a bootcamp sent out 300+ applications before their first offer. Plenty of questions left unanswered such as their portfolio, interview skills etc.
FORREST MY MAN!!! You did us dirty right at 5:00. Heh. You harvested that attention though! Thanks for the help brother!
my very first job fresh out of college was also a senior position. I asked the recruiter "you sure i am the right fit?" and they answered "How would I know, why don't you just try?" ... I did that because I had a "fuck it" attitude and funnily enough not only did I get the job, but the guy who gave it to me, was so fascinated by me that he immediately raises my salary above what I even wanted.
good work as always forrestknight
Thanks for what you said about job listings. I'm self taught and considering one final push to get into the industry. I'm already more or less qualified for a junior position but I need to finish up and learn a stack rather than just the fundamentals of a few languages. So far I applied to one job and totally bombed on the interview. Apparently there was a miscommunication about what the job actually was, yet this was not discussed until the 4th interview which was a group panel.
Maybe I can help :) let's talk?
Keep pushing. I am self-taught dev and just landed a job. You can do this
Can confirm, job listings are bs. When i got offered the job im currently at, i went back and looked at the actual listing. And its no where even near what im doing lol.
Strategies for self-taught programmers would be a great video
same here
Me applying for programming job and hoping to get the job so I can learn to program 😎👍
I am a computer science student but I feel like all I’m learning is how to answer questions for the course and I don’t understand how to will apply to any actual job if there is any information on this or how to transition what I learn into the “real world” I would love to hear it. Thank you.
Internships internships internships
the thing is that you have to be the right kind of person, the people working at FANG or any other high dev position are born to be those people, they have the right mind and personality to work for years and being competent at solving problems. You don't learn any of that in school, it cannot be taught, you either are competent in the field or you're not.
Im finishing a masters degree and still dont feel that im ready at all for a job since all u do is do courseworks that have no relations to real life jobs, imo education is just a money sink at this point, im £75k in debt and cant get a job :) now self learning web dev to land anything cause my degrees don’t matter (CS and MSc)
@@dominikkomar9170 same, I dropped out of my masters at a top 10 uni 😭. Cloud computing is booming at the moment try get some aws/azure certs
@@dominikkomar9170 shit same here ... minus the debt part ... I'm completing my MSC in the next 5 months ... and i need a job . So im here looking for web development stuff ..... Science courses can be shit when it comes to job prospects . 😶🌫️
Hey Forrest! Current software dev student, set to graduate in the Spring. Something I'm curious to get your opinion on: What can I do to make myself feel more ready to go into the professional world? I had a handful of personal projects and managed to land a dev job from that, but I was in over my head and flame out after a year. Went back to school after that, and while I do feel like I know a lot more now than I did then, I don't feel like I have all of the gaps filled in that I expected to by the time I finished up. It still feels like there's a lot of stuff I should know that I don't, so I'm getting very anxious about re-entering the professional world.
Thank you for any advice!
You're not meant to know everything. It's all about saying YES and figuring things out along the way.
Trust me, I learnt that the VERY HARD way😅
The feeling that your knowledge is incomplete is normal. No one has complete knowledge, and those that think they do are sorely mistaken. What matters is if you have *enough* knowledge. Enough of the basics and the more complex stuff in your head to actually be useful.
i felt this on a spiritual level. Literally in the exact same boat with the exact same thoughts. All things aside, knowledge is endless so i say we just gotta be confident and learn more along the way. Good luck on graduation and beyond! you got this.
Hostinger shared hosting doesn't suport python... you need to get their next tier.. just fyi
Thank you soo much, this video motivates me to continue pushing!!!
If I get rejected I'll stand out front in the rain aggressively reading my amateur poetry
We live in a society where you have to shed your blood, sweat and tears to get handcuffed to a work desk for 9 hours a day. 😊
Really needed this, thanks man!
considering graduation is just a month away this vid was posted at the perfect time for me.
Anybody here in 2024 wondering whether "entry level jobs" will even be a thing in software going forward? Why not just have an experienced developer organizing and overseeing a few coding bots? If every developer's productivity is 2 or 3 x'd because of AI, that's half (or less) the amount of jobs needed to do the same amount of work.
I’m a senior in college and I haven’t had any internships before because I actually switched majors twice. I’m really struggling to find internships and it’s already late in the season.
im a freshman, this is my first term I've applied to 170+ internships and gotten 0 replies lol
This was very helpful, thank you!
It's amazing how depressing and stupid the "junior" or "entrt-level" job posts are:
I found one that asked for:
HTML, CSS and Javscript (ok, seems obvious)
Typescript (expectable)
React (interesting)
Angular (ok...)
Vue (dude don't you think you asking for a little too much?)
SQL (that isn't even frontend what the hell)
+2 years of verifiable experience ( 😶🌫 )
I need one that is: I got the Job, but they switched teams and now I have no clue what I'm doing. Also they want me to learn Java and I just hate it, pls help.
Oooof poor baby I feel you
@@johnyepthomi892 then he's the perfect person to help
Refer me, i would learn it.
@@johnyepthomi892 I was working in Cobol, I just said yes because it was either that or getting fired. I am gonna learn it, but I just can't seem to reformat my mind to understand it
@@TheSummerCoast RUclips coding with mitch, he’s an awesome Java teacher with good habits
Thanks a lot for the info. Hopefully I get an internship through my startup
I graduated from a bootcamp in February, and I've been sending out applications like crazy. One interview so far, but they wanted someone more senior, and I've gotten nothing else back. I've got all the pieces together, a polished resume, portfolio, massive Linkedin network, I'm going to meetups and doing hackathons. I'm not sure why I'm not getting responses other than that they might just be finding better candidates? It's been tough. Thanks for the perspective!
Any luck?
Tomorrow I am going to my first test for a programming job.
Seriously I don't know what to do.....
It is not my field (Electronics Major Student)
Hope it went well
Electronics Engineers are taught C for embedded systems programming.
@@carldrogo9492 I wish we were taught that...
What are your thoughts on using Linode with using Terraform and Ansible to deploy the server then using CICD to push the site onto the server?
I needed to hear this. Thank you.
I was listening to the video while washing dishes and the middle but where he just cut off got me 💀
I was told by a recruiter it is their wishlist. So, yes ignore it.
You can get paid waaay more than 6k a month as an intern, depending on where you intern.
Edit: For people asking me where.
FinTech and Big Tech internships pay anywhere between 6-10k a month. I only have experience with 2 such companies (Goldman Sachs and Amazon) and both of them offered me way over 6k.
Where?
Where?
What was your portfolio? Facebook?
God damn. RUclips recommended me Jesus. I've been searching for a job for so long on the field without success. I'll be back once I get a jov ❤️
I am looking at a few companies, 2 in particular cause for 1: I met one of their lead developers in my apartment complex and a good friend too. That company uses stuff from our company relating to Astronomical data. Which is kinda funny cause they would have never happened if he didn't mention a product the scientists setup.
The second company seems to have a need for Mathematica and OOP C++ programming skills and a bit deeper computational science as well. The computational part usually needs a Masters or some certificate. I've been looking at those things
So hard to get hired. Graduated in August and still applying but nothing yet. I have an associates in Web development so maybe that's why it's harder. Lots of the listing want bachelor or master degree
Just network. Go to bars in your area where techies hang out and literally just talk to everyone.
Applying won’t get you far.
Same but 2020 August it's rough bro
Portfolio is your experience and passion
@@Therealw1
Too bad I live in a place where 99% of people doesn't give a shat about IT so it's hard to find them
Just keep trying! You'll get it! You can do it!!
i absolutely agree to all the words mentioned in this video .. also competition is so high that even best skilled candidates dont get recruited in the first place . Reference building is a must have skill and problem with that also is that either someone recommends your work or you hv an eye catching portfolio to start with.. in all cases, tough luck for freshers😢
My fellow developer friends, keep trying hard and we shall achieve the best😊
It's time to write a comment :) First: I realy like your hair Mr. Knight. Then there is my experience of getting job offers as a dev. I have no college degree in CS or similiar. I spent two years digin through documentations and find solutions for my problems ,and very important got a working product ready to ship. If you can show your new boss that you can do the job even before you got into the company, you got it. My last job I got because I have written a service that your sponsor provides by myself. And to be honest. Learn how to host your stuff by yourself.
When he pretended to end the video I said "huh", exited full screen, liked the video and almost clicked off 😭
Thank you, appreciate your work!
Can you get an internship as a self taught dev?
Should i go for an internship if im 1 year post graduation? I couldn't get one during college for multiple reasons, and am having trouble finding actual entry level jobs.
For me, it's just rejections after rejections, without even consideration for any interview. For jobs I am qualified for. Sometimes I just feel like giving up.
Don't give up, you can do it! If you put in the needed effort - you will get a job!
Maybe you can somehow improve you resume, portfolio etc. There is always a way to make something better!
I hope you will get the job you want as soon as possible!
Update?
Any updates?
Thank you!! I was thinking abaut that
👋 hey there! thanks for the information, have a great day dude ! 😁
i subbed!
I just started learning HTML and CSS. I absolutely love it. Can i get a job with no degree if I am proficient with these two languages? I plan on learning more also. I want to provide for my family doing something I enjoy. Im sold on coding.
You can get a job as a email marketing developer with just HTML and CSS
I saw a listing saying must be proficient in C++, Java, and C#. Goes on to say, experience with HTML, JavaScript and CSS is a plus..... it was a front end position..
Your realy helped me thank you man 👍
Very helpful to know. Thank you!
I feel bless while watching you
I am self taught in various tech stacks and just recently earned a computer science degree to expand my knowledge from a reputable school out here in California and I am finding it extremely hard to get a response from anybody. I am starting to question if this career path was the right choice. With bills and student loans lurking in the distance I am feeling disenfranchised.
Just apply for Data Science or Software Tester jobs, these skills are always in high demand. 🤩
Did you end up finding work?
@@nelzillaz no I haven't unfortunately. Just interviews that lead to nothing concrete 😞.
How bout now?
@@T-wreckz No luck things just getting worse but I did get a help desk job for the time being that allows me to code.
Thank you so much broo ... you really made it easier for me 🥰🥰
Does the HR dept. in tech companies actually work together with the Managers in what they are looking for in an applicant? It doesn't seem like they do, though.
9:00 I never understood the percentages when I was other people's portfolios lol like how do you even gauge that? Otherwise, great video! My mentor kept it short and sweet with me, he said "build things... learn and build something for everything you know". I took a long break from the self-taught journey and am gonna hop back on the train soon because I really wanna work in this field!
Hey man, thanks for making that video. You touched on a lot of things that I think is going to be very helpful when I make this career change. I’m moving over to software development from sales and marketing. I’m done with running sales offices, and being a babysitter, all day long. Your comments on the internship were awesome, I think a lot of people don’t put stock into the fact that that’s just building your skills and the importance of building a network. Anyways, thanks again for the video. Maybe we’ll work on something together someday.
these type of videos are only good at creating false hope. the reality of getting your foot into the door is MUCH more difficult than any of these videos allude to. Do some people get lucky? right place, right time? sure. but it is a very low percentage of people. i have work experience in several IT fields, even in software testing so i am familiar with couple of programming languages and tools. Finished a full stack coding bootcamp, have a portfolio that was highly approved by the bootcamp instructor , and yet here I am 8 months later about 500 applications in(probably 300 are solely software dev) without one actual programming interview. Theres about 400+ people applying for every entry level dev job and with all these tech layoffs theres even more competition. hopefully you have better luck, but just a heads up
Im in my first year of a computer programming bachelors program. Realistically, is there a minimum skill level i should have before starting to look for internships? Ive learned the basics of html, css, javascript, java, and python, but i havent done any large projects or learned how to integrate user interface into my java and python. Is it worth shooting my shot at some internships i see posted?
Definitely, Well I haven't started uni yet as I have taken a small pause. In this pause am literally shooting my shot and applying for most suitable Developer jobs I see. So please apply cause the worst that can happen is you not getting an internship but with a lot of feedback that you will use to improve yourself. You don't have anything to lose..... And this will be great because in your second year of Uni you may apply to the same companies and may know what the company really looks for while hiring.
I think you should apply for internships, for a project try making a couple of apis
If you’re in the US, a lot of the BIG tech companies have internships for underclassmen. They don’t expect as much of you at this point in your schooling, so try those. However it is late in the season so most spots will be filled.
A better idea might be to do freelance work or find a local company that has a relatively minimal need for tech and help them out. It’s a lot easier to aim lower, and it can get you experience working with a team or at least the beginnings of a portfolio that you can point to and say “I made that”.
To your original question, many tech companies don’t even consider underclassmen. Your first data structures and algorithms class is generally something you’ll get to as a sophomore, depending on your university, and that’s the bare minimum you’d be expected to know.
Honestly if you’re in university just taking level 3 programming class, a database class, a data struct & algorithm class, should get you prepared for most internships. So about sophomore - early junior year.
@@jarrellidk agree, minus the database part. That’s not necessarily something everyone takes, especially by junior year. I’ve got friends who never touched that class and are at FAANG companies now, at my university that is an elective upper level programming class. So I don’t think we can generalize that as a requirement.
Where I’m at, there’s the main programming track that everyone must complete with 3 classes, and those are prereqs to all higher levels. There’s also a parallel track of required low-level programming that starts from the hardware level and goes up from there. By the time you complete both tracks, you’re done with your sophomore year and you’ve learned Java, C and some Assembly. I like that strategy a lot. This last paragraph is just me over sharing and contains no specific advice
In a good company, an interview is done by an engineer, not HR. If you're interviewed by an HR, who only wants to hear answers to the questions like he's googling stuff - run. Run from that interview and that company ASAP!
That's all but one here, and that one was one of those 2 year shit contract "consultancy" scams that only exist because it's so rigged.
Nice video man, good tips and love the Josh reference!
whoever stumbles upon this comment (Also future me), I have a great advice for you: RUN!
don't engage in the job world. it's not worth it. if u have more than 1gram of self-respect
get into business, sell shit! don't work A DAY in your life
I know, you might starve to death. but just get a part time job or fulltime only if you have to! this is a warning from someone who's burnt out of bullshit job world, take it seriously - it's for your own good
I recently saw a posting that want an Entry-Level Web Developer with 3 years of work experience. I knew something was wrong lol.
Well I got rejected after successful technical interview saying that other candidate had better experience -_-