Interesting that it’s touch strips. But you can do the same this with just about any synth or controller. Nothing innovative in that regard. Serum is the reason why he was able to do that with its midi learn function. But this is a must have piece for me and my workflow.
@@turdington23 Yeah, it's a no brainer really. Don't get me wrong, Push has some features that are amazing but for what I do on Ableton they are a luxury I don't need. 2nd hand Push 2 are going for more than the APC64.
Looks promising improvement to apc40mk2: PROS - new useful stuff - more pads like novation launchpad pro, immediate quantize button, immediate choice if rec arm, mute, solo, clip stop. Basically same as akai force control mode. Usb c (akai force has weird usb b connector which has distance limitations), volume control now pad based. CONS - the notch in design top and bottom is dreadful for stacking 4 units in 256 grid configuration, no mention that options.txt still allows for “Don’t combine APCs” variable. Biggest con - they have dropped pedal support for rec stop the active looping clip. That feature alone is worth worth paying £300 for the old apc40mk2. Hands free stopping of the clip you are recording is realy important for guitarists, keyboard players. Why has it been dropped?! Push2 cant even do that neither can push3. I have recently bought nektar pacer pedals and Mareq max4live plugin that turns a pedal board into exactly what this is doing. But the nail in coffin for those who have apc40mk2s is that pedal feature script. Its a proprietary api script that most who want hands free stop active loop.
Well damn... still thinking about Push 3 but its a $670 difference and is making me think if the bigger screen, MPE and built in soundcard is worth it that much of a difference because in the end it's just a midi controller. This thing is also a stand alone sequencer so thats a big plus... Loopop mentioned a few caveats that could be fixed in updates but nothing game breaking at all... damn. I'll be watching more videos before deciding what to get.
Placement of the touch strips and the display is all over the place. I mean, both the APC Mini and the Maschine Jam have shown it's possible to have faders under even a 64 pad grid (where they belong), and of course the display, as tiny as it is, should be in one of the top corners and not on the bottom where your right hand wrist will cover it most of the time.
I commented before viewing the second half of the video. I had asked if it worked outside the DAW environment with live performance equipment. Watching that portion of the video, I can imagine that, if I didn’t have a DTX Multi 12, I would try getting this model. My “game” since the mid 2000s has been triggering drum tones by hand in lieu of with a sequencer, looper or arpeggiator.
This looks fantastic. I love the Akai ableton controllers and have had a few but they all have eventually developed a problem where they send unwanted, unprompted midi control data to Ableton which really messes things up and seems impossible to fix properly. Anyone know if these have similar issues?
What’s it like controlling other synths etc, as in being the central controller for hardware & software? eg a bass station two, ableton There’s little price difference between this apple, and the orange tree that is an arturia keylab mkii 61 - little price difference in respect to what you get in return £4£
with current software its a mess returned unable to register akai shipping product to us from different markets . the serial number was recognized as M-audio audio interface want me to go on with other things ? ribbons cool idea but ableton script filled with bugs .
Now please, bring out a (midi) mixer with the same form factor, 8 channels, 8 sliders, 6 knobs per channel. (Panning, 2 sends, 3 assignable ones per channel inst/fx) Korg zero 8 was a great idea, but had a lot of bugs and a lot of hum because of the audio implementation it had too, but now with midi 2.0 the midi resolution is much finer, so we won’t have a “ladder” effect using filters and so on. A few, like 4 knobs for the master to insert fx would be great too. And a pre listen via headphone. Basically a performance midi mixer like a pioneer v10, with midi only (maybe a built in soundcard) on 8 channels.) My novation launch control xl has served me well but is getting old, and the quality should be better, make it feel sturdy like the apc 64. The touch sliders are great, but what made the apc 40 (mk2) great were the physical/ non touch faders per channel for live performance. Those 2 devices together (apc64 and let’s call it amm64) would be everything one needs for producing and performing. Hell even sell them together in a package, and I bet you would have a winner. I detest my live push 2 controller, I got one of the sticky units (hope the polyurethane/ plastic on the apc64 is not the same kind). Lots of people that bought a push 2 older than 3 years have this problem, and for a 600 euro device with the most basic live version, this is just wrong, ableton support first said I was the only one with this problem, and the reason according to them was that I live in a hot environment… whilst I live in Belgium where it’s rainy and cold 6 months in a year lol. Then they gave me a link for a cleaning product that works, but after 5 times using it the aluminum starts to shine through. That’s why I refuse to get a push 3, and will get this apc64 (for a fraction of the price, so thank you akai!)
Really wish this had some sample editing features to chop and slice samples, like a screen that ran along the length of the device to view waveforms, etc;
@@LeeOnTheTrack Yes, but times change and so does both software and hardware. They now have a DAW so why not make your most popular controller plug and play with it.
You guys killed the mkii to sell this. This one does not work well for VJs. MKii is still the best controller for Vjing. Makes no sense to kill their best product just to force people to buy this one.
Got one yesterday. So much fun. Being able to control vsts, hardware synths and send return rack gear from the one device is really liberating
Andy always knows what to cover and at what sequence to cover it at with new product promos
Nice job Andy, Akai is the best at making controllers. I love the attention to detail and design work you guys put into this baby.
this was a top notch demo. made me want to buy one!
yeah dude the jump from logic to ableton was so much fun. never looked back!
I'm sold! Mapping parameters to the touch strips is crazy
Interesting that it’s touch strips. But you can do the same this with just about any synth or controller. Nothing innovative in that regard. Serum is the reason why he was able to do that with its midi learn function.
But this is a must have piece for me and my workflow.
I’m really hoping they also release a new APC40 with faders and encoders. The 64 looks more useful as a playing surface (grid keyboard)
Never used an APC40 but they do look great.
Crossfader was my favorite part of the last few. If you use a 64 grid controller do yourself a favor and just grab a push.
this is like half the price of Push (controller) and has some extra features
@@WesWookBeats
Andy does great demos! Makes me want one and I have push lol
This looks like a DSI Tempest on steroids! Excited to perform on it!
A great value if you’re into Ableton Live and don’t want to get a Push 3.
Can you control most things in Ableton with this device? Like all functions and parameters?
Yes , and you can scroll up to get more than 8 parameters if available
It works on other daws they just don't advertise it. Plus it has custom.mode and you can set it up to do things the way you like
Fantastic pricing!!!! Will it run alongside my Push 2? If it does ill be getting one from your store!
This will be my intro back to ableton. Then get another gear if needed eventually.
Was going to buy a push but this does everything plus more than I need and for the price, will be getting one ordered.
Yeh I was going to sell push 2 to get a 3 , but I'll get this and couple synths instead
@@turdington23 Yeah, it's a no brainer really. Don't get me wrong, Push has some features that are amazing but for what I do on Ableton they are a luxury I don't need. 2nd hand Push 2 are going for more than the APC64.
@@AndyFirebladeMuzaI have Push 2. But its touch strip is not like this one. Unbelievable 🙌🏼
This is a game changer
I love it and will get it to upgrade my aging apc-40 mk2 and use it with modular stuff too. hell yes!!
Hi can it be used for all other DAWs besides Ableton? Also Andy was talking about stand alone how will that work. Thanks
Nows the best time to purchase a push 2
Looks promising improvement to apc40mk2: PROS - new useful stuff - more pads like novation launchpad pro, immediate quantize button, immediate choice if rec arm, mute, solo, clip stop. Basically same as akai force control mode. Usb c (akai force has weird usb b connector which has distance limitations), volume control now pad based. CONS - the notch in design top and bottom is dreadful for stacking 4 units in 256 grid configuration, no mention that options.txt still allows for “Don’t combine APCs” variable. Biggest con - they have dropped pedal support for rec stop the active looping clip. That feature alone is worth worth paying £300 for the old apc40mk2. Hands free stopping of the clip you are recording is realy important for guitarists, keyboard players. Why has it been dropped?! Push2 cant even do that neither can push3. I have recently bought nektar pacer pedals and Mareq max4live plugin that turns a pedal board into exactly what this is doing. But the nail in coffin for those who have apc40mk2s is that pedal feature script. Its a proprietary api script that most who want hands free stop active loop.
Well damn... still thinking about Push 3 but its a $670 difference and is making me think if the bigger screen, MPE and built in soundcard is worth it that much of a difference because in the end it's just a midi controller. This thing is also a stand alone sequencer so thats a big plus... Loopop mentioned a few caveats that could be fixed in updates but nothing game breaking at all... damn. I'll be watching more videos before deciding what to get.
Placement of the touch strips and the display is all over the place. I mean, both the APC Mini and the Maschine Jam have shown it's possible to have faders under even a 64 pad grid (where they belong), and of course the display, as tiny as it is, should be in one of the top corners and not on the bottom where your right hand wrist will cover it most of the time.
I commented before viewing the second half of the video. I had asked if it worked outside the DAW environment with live performance equipment. Watching that portion of the video, I can imagine that, if I didn’t have a DTX Multi 12, I would try getting this model. My “game” since the mid 2000s has been triggering drum tones by hand in lieu of with a sequencer, looper or arpeggiator.
Yoooo what's that synth you bought out
Third time watching this🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jack: "THAT IS UNREAL"
Me: Unreal in that you can get a good condition Push 2 for that price.
How hard would a reason template be to make?
I need help using Ableton.... Shit look crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what you get when Push2 + Maschine Jam have a baby👶
This is no push 2
@bestof467 Nailed it.
For once I like mostly everything on an AKAI product 😂
So you can control all of Ableton’s functions and features with this control? Even vsts you load up?
This looks fantastic. I love the Akai ableton controllers and have had a few but they all have eventually developed a problem where they send unwanted, unprompted midi control data to Ableton which really messes things up and seems impossible to fix properly. Anyone know if these have similar issues?
And why do I think the price is kinda sweet
What’s it like controlling other synths etc, as in being the central controller for hardware & software?
eg a bass station two, ableton
There’s little price difference between this apple, and the orange tree that is an arturia keylab mkii 61 - little price difference in respect to what you get in return £4£
Looks great but it looks like a launchpad had a baby with machine jam 😂
Exactly what I said… but I do love the JAM, so… win?
Can we use this on fl studio?
I wanted to hate this... but now I want one. is it better than the push 3? maybe?
The price is!! Haha
No it's not better than push, but at that price it's a decent alternative to a launchpad pro or something.
Its the same like a push2?
there is a 600 dollar difference, sooo no
@@mmacult5336$600 difference from the push 3 not 2
Does this have mpe on the drum sounds when touching the pads?
Where is some up dates for mpc its been years still no 3.0
Nice bit of gear. People will still find fault with it though.
with current software its a mess returned unable to register akai shipping product to us from different markets . the serial number was recognized as M-audio audio interface want me to go on with other things ? ribbons cool idea but ableton script filled with bugs .
Does this work with Bitwig?
Throws Ableton in the bin, this as a stand alone sequencer is DAF.
I just wish they would create something for Logic
Pads are very hard compare to the lpp mk3. Be careful! I am unable to play. Don't know what to do with this stuff...
So…..is an Akai Force MKll on the way?
I am pretty sure it is, the question is more how much ram will it have :D
it runs the same on BITWIG too. 5.2 has it built in so its not jus ableton
Now please, bring out a (midi) mixer with the same form factor, 8 channels, 8 sliders, 6 knobs per channel. (Panning, 2 sends, 3 assignable ones per channel inst/fx)
Korg zero 8 was a great idea, but had a lot of bugs and a lot of hum because of the audio implementation it had too, but now with midi 2.0 the midi resolution is much finer, so we won’t have a “ladder” effect using filters and so on.
A few, like 4 knobs for the master to insert fx would be great too. And a pre listen via headphone. Basically a performance midi mixer like a pioneer v10, with midi only (maybe a built in soundcard) on 8 channels.)
My novation launch control xl has served me well but is getting old, and the quality should be better, make it feel sturdy like the apc 64. The touch sliders are great, but what made the apc 40 (mk2) great were the physical/ non touch faders per channel for live performance.
Those 2 devices together (apc64 and let’s call it amm64) would be everything one needs for producing and performing. Hell even sell them together in a package, and I bet you would have a winner.
I detest my live push 2 controller, I got one of the sticky units (hope the polyurethane/ plastic on the apc64 is not the same kind). Lots of people that bought a push 2 older than 3 years have this problem, and for a 600 euro device with the most basic live version, this is just wrong, ableton support first said I was the only one with this problem, and the reason according to them was that I live in a hot environment… whilst I live in Belgium where it’s rainy and cold 6 months in a year lol. Then they gave me a link for a cleaning product that works, but after 5 times using it the aluminum starts to shine through. That’s why I refuse to get a push 3, and will get this apc64 (for a fraction of the price, so thank you akai!)
With FL studio or nah?
Really wish this had some sample editing features to chop and slice samples, like a screen that ran along the length of the device to view waveforms, etc;
Give some love to Bitwig please
I wish it worked with Bitwig.
Give Jurgen a few weeks.
Can anybody tell me if this works with iOS
Kinda don't like it, especially the strips never been a fan of them, but I'm here to learn more and see if I could manage with it in my wf
I was interested but I'm not gonna lie the sliders instead of encoders is a turn off
I’m with you
@teamcoalhapcharcoal I miss the actual display
To answer the Video title?
No where near Push
Good price though
£359
Did Andy forget to mention the 8 touch strips on the APC64? 😎
*APC64x with 4 touch strips & 2 XY pads
😒More DISPLAYS please...
Need more to identify what’s going on...too much guessing and memorizing.
unnecessarily bulky due to those excessive touch strips
Meh, most of these new features I won’t ever even use
Why make this for someone else's DAW when you have your own? Looks like you don't have faith in your own!
They've been making these long before they had a daw... they also made the original push.
@@LeeOnTheTrack Yes, but times change and so does both software and hardware. They now have a DAW so why not make your most popular controller plug and play with it.
And this one.
The Akai sounds so muffled, like it’s being played through water, maybe it’s the audio set-up? Or my ears of course.
Really!? The controller has nothing to do with the audio. It’s the audio in the recording.
How can a MIDI controller make sound?
It’s the room audio you’re hearing. They have to balance the spill from the room which the mic’s are capturing. We had the speakers so loud vibin :-)
@@DankePlace i really wanna know if he actually meant that
@@aripjeetsidhu3819 100% he did.
A bit Venezuelan 😂😂
Worst evolve possible from apc40 mk2.
You guys killed the mkii to sell this. This one does not work well for VJs. MKii is still the best controller for Vjing. Makes no sense to kill their best product just to force people to buy this one.
I was about to purchase Push 3 soon until i see here...this real definitely cheap!