So glad you pointed out the 3 year license. I did really notice it originally and was just getting ready to order the upgrade. I won't do the 3 year but "might" have done it if it was 5 year. Now looking for a 2024 upgrade.
You are welcome! The 3 year limit doesn't impact me since I upgrade every year anyway but I know most of my audience will be put off with a time limit on the software.
I was thinking of upgrading but the three year licence has just put me off, still using the 2020 version which works perfectly well so I think I shall stay put.
My 2023 version malfunctions since the latest Mac upgrade. Adobe told me there is nothing I can do because they only do updates for 2 years. They suggested I buy the 2025 version…
I am surprised your 2020 version still works with your computers updates. I have the 2923 version and it started to malfunction. Adobe told me they only do 2 updates so mine is no longer compatible with the Mac iOS recent operating system update. I am so disappointed …
I agree with George that the three year time limit is a deal breaker.I used to use Elements and was quite happy with it as it was all I actually needed.But it became annoying when every three years the old version would suddenly stop so I switched to Affinity Photo.Affinity is a bit too much for what I need but it was cheaper and has life long upgrades.
@@miaalbani1640 Affinity Photo has more features than Elements. It is more like Photoshop than Photoshop Elements. And yes it does have canvas resize and full transform tools including Mesh Warp which PSE doesn't have. Right now you can get a 6-month free trial of Affinity Photo so you can test it out for free.
Hey George. Yet again, thank you for another great video. I have purchased all your training and I recommend everyone to do the same. Your training, and youtube-videos are simply great. You provide high quality videos covering lots of topics in detail, and you make all of us who follow you better photo editors - for free. Lately though, I have been pondering whether to swap to Lightroom. I can get a license through my job. At home I have stuck to PSE because I have spent so much time and money on it over the years, but maybe the time to swap has come. The three-year thingy is probably what will push me. I'll install and try out the trial version of Elements before I decide. Again, thank you George.
Totally agree with the training courses, they are excellent and teach you everything you need to know and clearly explained. I just also purchased Georges Affinity Photo course, have learned so much that I have not seen on YT, highly recommend them to everyone
@@bentkm PSE is still the main program I use for most photo editing. I am the first to admit that it could be made a lot better, but for the money I still think it is the best program. Of course the new 3 year license limit will impact Adobe sales, since I upgrade every year anyway that is not an issue for me. And I really like the new Remove and Change Color tools.
@@miaalbani1640 Right now you can get a 6 month free trial of Affinity Photo. Online Pixlr can do a lot for free, or for more features they have real cheap subscriptions.
Hi George, thanks for the update. Couple of questions, you use Apple phone if I remember correct??? Second, I am using PSE2024 and probably will consider passing on this version in order to pay for that deal on Affinity which is going to expire at the end of the trial period. As you mentioned, the two programs really complement each other and I will probably get the whole suite of three programs because the others don't appear to be that difficult and they also handle the different graphics types, a bonus for me. I hope you and family have a happy Christmas and New Years. Thank you for being such a help with both your videos and your associated tools. It is great having a mentor in such close and spontaneous response form PSE Coach and Training. Rich
Hi Rich, actually I am on Android. I don't have much need for smart phones so I just use something cheap. My smart phone is usually turned off. The whole Affinity Suite is really worth the money, can be used in most cases to replace Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. Merry Christmas!
@@HTGPhoto Thank you George! Yes, once I took a closer look at the Affinity Suite it became a real deal/steal! While I am retired I like to learn something new everyday just to keep me cognitively sharp. This set of programs really replaces some of Adobes popular programs especially with graphics. I always wanted to step in the water a bit deeper and just play around with things. I got a good grip on Photography when I took that up a few years ago and I have always had an interest in these other software programs. My degree studies are in Marketing/Sales so I see things in a different lens at times. One of the main reasons I enjoy your channel so much because of the attention to detail like with the shadowing on the bones, (That was brilliant!!!!!!!!) plus your gift of teaching is above the rest on RUclips!!!!
A huge thanks again for your videos George - I really apricate the inspiration I get from watching and learning your edits - Regarding PSE2025, then that three year time limit is also a deal breaker for me - will settle with PSE2024 for as long as it makes sense and might start using Affinity Photo 2 more moving on.
@@HTGPhoto I have already been enjoying the Affinity Photo videos you have already made and those are equally awesome :-) .... I already got the Affinity 2 software, so I am sure I will start to use it much more ..... Keep up the good work George - it is highly appreciated 🙂
Ditto on the 3-year term license crap especially in light of Affinity Photo’s 6-month free trial, relatively low cost, and no subscription needed upon purchase. Competition, nuff said.
Hi I just came across this video , very informative thanks, I already have purchased the 2025 version but cant find the curves adjustment button ? have they deleted it? thanks
PSE hasn't had a curves adjustment tool for years. There is one called Color Curves in the Enhance Menu under Color but it doesn't allow you to move the curves and it really is a Lighting adjustment and not a Color adjustment. There is a Curves tool in the Elements+ plugin.
@@NaukaPoProstu Affinity Photo does have quick tools for removal, etc. Check out the InPainting Tool, basically the same thing as the new Remove Tool in PSE.
@@NaukaPoProstu There is so many easy quick removal tools nowadays, even in my Pixel phone. And with the AI revolution around, they will only be more and more, pretty much everywhere (including free ones). At my side no justification from the company which has already a lot of issues regarding their reputation and arrogant behaviour towards their clients. And if THIS is the answer from them, following all that backlash, being exposed, sued, etc.; then this will be mine. Not a single penny from me for them anymore, they made a choice, I shall make one, too.
Make a video about that one! And other things relevant for the users who are considering switching to Affinity, or using both 2023/2024 PSE along with Affinity. BTW, do you think I should still buy the PSE Plus plugin?
George, děkuji za skvělé video PSE-2025! Je velká škoda, že se Adobe rozhodlo o tříletou licenci a tím možná ztratí mnoho nových uživatelů. Vám přeji mnoho zdraví, a pokračujte ve skvělé práci kterou děláte ok👍👏
Co se mě týče, tak já doufám, že ztratí mnoho uživatelů. Potom, co jsem se informovat o všem, co má firma Adobe na svědomí, a přesto se dále chová, jak se chová... tak si to, zcela upřímně, zaslouží. Ten důvod, proč se chová, jak se chová, je totiž ten, že jí to její klienti umožňují. Je čas říct jasné NE.
One thing I was looking for info about but you didn't mention it ..... does it have the AI thing that lets you expand your canvas and it automatically fills in the new area? What I'm talking about is like reverse cropping. A friend of mine has the full (expensive) Photoshop, and he was showing me how awesome it works. I was hoping that would be included in the next Elements, but haven't found out if that is included or not.
What happens to the older existing version of PSE during the upgrade? At the end of the 3 years, you decide not to renew the license for 2025 can the user revert back to the previous version of the PSE before the upgrade?
Your older versions will still be on your computer and will still work. Only the new 2025 has a limit and won't work after 3 years, basically there is a timer on the software. Older versions don't have that timer. Of course when we get to 2029 and if you are still using 2022 or 2023 it is time to upgrade anyway.
I already know what my hopes are with Affinity. Good point about no upgrades during the three year time period. For customers keeping up with PSE, there was no reason to set a restriction on the usage time. 😮 Control!
Thanks . I don't think that updating will make things I need to do any better than I can already with version 24. Also having to pay again after 3 years has put me off.
George, nice upgrade with the new AI tools! I agree with the subscription problem you mention. Why is it so hard for these companies to just come up with something that is give and take, yet fair? I would not mind the three year subscription, but at least update the program for the next three years as well!!??? I am not sure what that would do with the pricing structure, PSE customer base is not going to pay much more than they currently do but I could see a small increase as a trade off perhaps?? I think I will probably just sit on this one till after Christmas and the New Years. By Feb/March they will be discounting it down another 20% or so, I can wait. By then the three year thing is not going to be as much of a big deal for me. I wonder if this decision has anything to do with the timing of when Windows 11 will be on all computers and Windows 10 will no longer be supported??? Perhaps the Windows 11 platform is going to require a major restructuring of how PSE operates!!??? Thank you for the great update! Rich
Always good to wait for sales on PSE. The real problem at Adobe is that they just don't know who their PSE audience is. They think the audience is made up of people recently out of college with a kid or two who do a lot of social media. Acording to my experience here on RUclips the primary audience is retired or nearing retirement and with a fixed income. I am guessing they lost a lot of sales due to the pandemic and inflation. My sales dropped a lot for the same reasons.
@@99jlink I get pretty good stats on my audience from RUclips. At the moment over 60% of my audience on this channel are over 55 and most of those over 65. Less than a third of my audience is what Adobe thinks the audience for PSE is all about. The problem with Adobe is that their core audience is corporations who like subscription payment models, better for bookkeeping as it is a use expense instead of an asset that needs to be tracked and depreciated over time.
Does Afinity Photo edit in 8, 12, 0r 14 bits? PSE is limited to 8 bits (AFAIK). I have Afinity 1.2 (?) and PSE 2022 along with a waiting Windows 10 computer. I always shoot in RAW. Which should I install first? Or which should I install period? I should be able to get Bridge free, as I have several registered copies of PSE (13 & 15), installed and activated. PSE 15 handles all the RAW files from my "ancient" Nikon DSLRs (3xxx, 5xxx, & 7xxx series) FWIW, I loved PSE 5, while PSE 7 was garbage. None of the organizers I've used effectively deal with very large catalogs.
Affinity Photo works natively in 16 bit mode. I prefer the Affinity Photo RAW editor to the PSE one. In Affinity Photo it is the Develop Persona. Bridge is much better than PSE Organizer. My favorite version of PSE was version 10. Little side note, the first PSE course I produced was for PSE 4. As far as my personal recommendations, if you are primarily a photographer than Affinity Photo is better. If you like doing the creative stuff then PSE is better, basically more filters and it runs a bit faster than AP. Except for PSE 2025 which seems slower to me than previous versions.
@@HTGPhoto Many thanks for the quick hit back on that. I'm just a "snapshot photographer", no need for the filter nonsense. Of course I take my snapshots with everything from an 8 mm FF fisheye to 400 mm tele, while carefully skirting 35 & 50 mm focal lengths. (and people). Although, "Boo at the Zoo" (Philly), is the next 2 weekends. The lavish face painting and costumes make it almost worthwhile not to simply concentrate on the wildlife. Funny story (?) As part of of an AAS program, I had a course in view camera, (4x5) For me it was the most god awfully unnerving experience, standing out on city streets with the focusing cloth over my head. Those were the days, ISOs topping out at 400, (325 tungsten), begging to use the color print processor..... Apologies, I do sometimes tend to ramble on. Oh and many thanks again.!
Cannot find the upgrade for 2025. I don't want the 3 year plan. If you find it a link would be great. Everything I see is with the 3 year subscription .Thanks for your help
Hi Norman, all versions of 2025 have the 3 year limit, upgrade or not. So if you upgrade from a previous version you will be going from lifetime access to a 3 year limited access plan. Of course you will still have the earlier version on your computer and that will still be lifetime, but if you are looking for a lifetime 2025 that doesn't exist.
Thanks for watching! I don't think that Adobe understands their audience for PSE. One of the top reasons most people buy PSE is that it is a one time purchase, with no time limit.
Wow thank you for the heads-up about PSE 2025 moving to a 3-year licence, didn't know that. I bought PSE 2024 because I refuse do software subscriptions, I will only pay for buy-it-once-and-it's-yours software. Now that PSE has gone that way too, I'll be sticking with 2024 until I find something else. I do have Affinity, but as a Photoshop user of 3 decades, find it difficult to switch, plus Affinity just got bought by a megacorporation whose own software is subscription-based, so I fear Affinity going that way too.
You're welcome! I think that Affinity Photo will stick with the current pricing structure because they understand that the biggest complaint against Adobe is their subscription model. So that is Affinity Photo's most competitive sales point. I will be adding lots more Affinity Photo videos to my channel, so that should help you get comfortable with the software.
@@HTGPhoto I do hope Affinity's new owners will understand that it would be a good idea to stick with the one-off purchase model for that product, in order to be serious competition for Adobe. Thanks, I will watch your Affinity tutorials - thank you for those and the PSE ones, all very helpful!
Thnx for the review. I am new with pse and is the license 100 for 3 years? I don’t have to pay for an upgrade each year? Only after 3 years? So it is better then buy pse 2024? Regards, Ron
Hi Ron, the license is for PSE 2025 for 3 years, after that it stops working. If you want PSE 2026 next year that would be a new purchase. The 3 year license doesn't give you any updates. In 2024 and earlier there was no time limited license, you can use 2024 or earlier for as long as you like. Of course as always, if you want the upgrade you have to purchase the new version. If you can find a copy of 2024 that is the better option if cost is an issue. For me I upgrade every year anyway so the 3 year limit doesn't affect me. If you like the new features then you would need to get 2025 and live with that 3 year time limit.
@@HTGPhoto So it cost me 100 am I jave it for 3 years but if there are new features in a year I must pay for the upgrade. And the only reason if I wanna buy 2024 is that it cost me a littl3 cheaper and it is for life. Correct?
@@Ron1961 That's correct. I personally believe that software should be updated every 3-5 years anyway to keep up with the computer operating system. But there are loads of people on my channel using 10 year old PSE with no issues. To be fair, I upgrade every year and I also have a subscription to Photoshop and Lightroom. But if I was on a budget I would stick with 2004 or maybe get Affinity Photo.
@@Ron1961 True, the issue most people are having is that it used to cost 100 one time only, for life. Now it is 100 for 3 years. Since I upgrade every year anyway I personally don't care, but many people don't plan on upgrading for a long time, for those people it is a big problem.
The Remove Tool is different than the Spot healing brush tool. It is more like an easier way to make a selection and then fill it with Content Aware Fill. I like the new Remove tool a lot, but since it isn't actually AI it isn't perfect. Where it works it is fantasic, where it doesn't work the old method of selections and Content Aware Fill still gets the job done.
I have a 2023 version and it now malfunctions. I was told by Adobe that the software updates are for 2 years only so I am out in the cold. I did not know back then that my 2023 copy would malfunction after 2 years- so, the fact that the 2025 version lasts for 3 years is not a surprise since mine is now not working efficiently after 2 years
I have much older versions of PSE that are still working fine. Don't bother contacting Adobe, their response is always to buy the new version. Try uninstalling and reinstalling the software. If you have any plugins installed remove those as well.
FWIW Kidz, I suspect Adobe is trying to wean people from the idea that PSE is a freestanding program, and nudge it into the subscription realm. The DVD version was discontinued as of PSE 2022. Charging say $5.00 to $8.00 a month, would give them the rationale for upping the price of Photoshop itself by a similar amount. Maybe I'm just paranoid. But then again, maybe I"m not.
I understand your frustration. This is possibly the biggest mistake Adobe could have made with PSE. Like I have said several times in the past, I love PSE, but I don't feel the same way about the Adobe company.
Thanks for covering the changes, George. I won't be buying Elements again and I will be moving to Affinity v2. Mediocre updates and I assume Adobe will move to annual subscriptions for Elements, 3 years being the starting point to rein in. No thanks
I think you may be right. The 3 year time limit may be just a step on the road to full subscriptions since this basically is a 3 yearly subscription as opposed to the yearly subscription for PS.
If you are old like me, you remember a time when PC's came with tons of software with lifetime licenses pre-installed. Dang, I miss those days. Nowadays you be lucky to have windows 10/11 home edition. Even office you must pay. Plus PC's are triple in price as well. Adobe has nice software, but they are super money hungry. Its a cringy company. And now with the software expiring? I thought I only worry about my milk and eggs expiring, not my PC software. I still cannot get over this subscription software, technically you do not own none of it. Its like a rental and an expensive one at that. If your in business, you can afford it, but most people on here and just regular folks that occasionally edit photos or videos. $60 a month is not economical. If you have a few software subscriptions, your paying $200-300 a month just to sit on weekends and play around, not counting the internet service and the PC itself. PC's are such a necessity as well.
Hate to say it, but yes, I remember those days. I also remember going to Kinko's Copies to rent Macs by the hour to do my computer work since I couldn't afford the software. Back when Adobe Photoshop cost almost $1900. Even in the year 2000 it still cost $700 and almost $1000 for the Extended version.
In the audio world, the plugin audio company Waves infamously tried an Adobe style move switching to subscription only model practically overnight (sending an "April The First" style e-mail - ironically, i think actually it was almost April - to their clients), and results - HUGE immediate backlash, people posting videos about how to replace the Waves stuff, etc. And like in a week or two, company apologized, offered huge discounts and went back to the previous pricing /i.e. the customer choice, either subscription, or not/. So customers have the power, and Adobe even after all these recent controversies, being exposed, sued, etc., still acting like that they are the BOSS, and we all are their b...s... just NO, NO. BIG NO NO.
@@pohlpiano If Adobe understood their PSE audience they would never try the subscription model. The number one reason viewers on my channel say they went with PSE instead of Photoshop is that it is not subscription.
I thought I owned the 2023 version but after my recent computer software update my Elements 2023 malfunctions. I was told by Adobe that they only do software updates for 2 years so now I am out in the cold. I am fed up with them
@@miaalbani1640 Try reinstalling the software. Also I know from your other replies that you are on a Mac. That is important to know since Elements is made for Windows and is then converted to work with Macs, so it has never worked as well or as reliably on Macs.
I’m using the 2023 version that I payed outright. This new version is not worth upgrading and having to pay for a subscription. It won’t be long before Adobe goes by way of the DoDo bird. Getting overly greedy will come back and bite you in the a$$. 👎
This is not their only money grab. Starting in January their Adobe Photography plan with Photoshop and Lightroom goes up 50%. I am guessing that they have been losing money and are trying to get that back by raising prices a lot.
@@HTGPhotoif they are losing money, and raising prices to recoup, then it’s a recipe for disaster. I don’t think filing for bankruptcy will break any hearts.
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So glad you pointed out the 3 year license. I did really notice it originally and was just getting ready to order the upgrade. I won't do the 3 year but "might" have done it if it was 5 year. Now looking for a 2024 upgrade.
You are welcome! The 3 year limit doesn't impact me since I upgrade every year anyway but I know most of my audience will be put off with a time limit on the software.
I was thinking of upgrading but the three year licence has just put me off, still using the 2020 version which works perfectly well so I think I shall stay put.
You can probably find a new copy of PSE 2024 on Amazon or Ebay.
My 2023 version malfunctions since the latest Mac upgrade. Adobe told me there is nothing I can do because they only do updates for 2 years. They suggested I buy the 2025 version…
I am surprised your 2020 version still works with your computers updates. I have the 2923 version and it started to malfunction. Adobe told me they only do 2 updates so mine is no longer compatible with the Mac iOS recent operating system update. I am so disappointed …
Correction: 2023
@@miaalbani1640 Adobe will always tell you to buy the new version, they don't have any real support for PSE. Try reinstalling the program.
Thanks! just terrific.
Thanks Rich, I really appreciate the support!
I agree with George that the three year time limit is a deal breaker.I used to use Elements and was quite happy with it as it was all I actually needed.But it became annoying when every three years the old version would suddenly stop so I switched to Affinity Photo.Affinity is a bit too much for what I need but it was cheaper and has life long upgrades.
For regular photo editing Affinity Photo is better anyway. PSE is still tops for ease of use and creative filters.
"But it became annoying when every three years the old version would suddenly stop" This is brand new for Photoshop Elements 2025...
Does Affinity miss any important features like resizing the canvas or using the skew /distortion tools?
@@miaalbani1640 Affinity Photo has more features than Elements. It is more like Photoshop than Photoshop Elements. And yes it does have canvas resize and full transform tools including Mesh Warp which PSE doesn't have. Right now you can get a 6-month free trial of Affinity Photo so you can test it out for free.
Hey George. Yet again, thank you for another great video. I have purchased all your training and I recommend everyone to do the same. Your training, and youtube-videos are simply great. You provide high quality videos covering lots of topics in detail, and you make all of us who follow you better photo editors - for free.
Lately though, I have been pondering whether to swap to Lightroom. I can get a license through my job. At home I have stuck to PSE because I have spent so much time and money on it over the years, but maybe the time to swap has come. The three-year thingy is probably what will push me. I'll install and try out the trial version of Elements before I decide.
Again, thank you George.
Totally agree with the training courses, they are excellent and teach you everything you need to know and clearly explained. I just also purchased Georges Affinity Photo course, have learned so much that I have not seen on YT, highly recommend them to everyone
You're welcome Bent! Also take a look at Affinity Photo, they still have their 6 month free trial going on.
@@HTGPhoto not that it is important, but I decided to purchase the PSE2025 license after a closer scrutiny.
@@bentkm PSE is still the main program I use for most photo editing. I am the first to admit that it could be made a lot better, but for the money I still think it is the best program. Of course the new 3 year license limit will impact Adobe sales, since I upgrade every year anyway that is not an issue for me. And I really like the new Remove and Change Color tools.
@@HTGPhoto I agree and my reasoning is the same. I upgrade every year as well. But the best part is ... I can keep on following you ;-).
3yrs is a deal breaker for me, would probably have got it but for that. Will stick with the free editors, plenty of decent ones out there.
As you say, lots of good options out there. Personally I like Affinity Photo as a replacement for PSE.
Which editing program do you use that is free?
@@miaalbani1640 Right now you can get a 6 month free trial of Affinity Photo. Online Pixlr can do a lot for free, or for more features they have real cheap subscriptions.
I will be staying with Photoshop Elements 2024
Adobe will end up losing more and more market share because of greed
I agree, bad move on Adobe's part
Hi George, thanks for the update. Couple of questions, you use Apple phone if I remember correct??? Second, I am using PSE2024 and probably will consider passing on this version in order to pay for that deal on Affinity which is going to expire at the end of the trial period. As you mentioned, the two programs really complement each other and I will probably get the whole suite of three programs because the others don't appear to be that difficult and they also handle the different graphics types, a bonus for me.
I hope you and family have a happy Christmas and New Years. Thank you for being such a help with both your videos and your associated tools. It is great having a mentor in such close and spontaneous response form PSE Coach and Training.
Rich
Hi Rich, actually I am on Android. I don't have much need for smart phones so I just use something cheap. My smart phone is usually turned off. The whole Affinity Suite is really worth the money, can be used in most cases to replace Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign. Merry Christmas!
@@HTGPhoto Thank you George! Yes, once I took a closer look at the Affinity Suite it became a real deal/steal! While I am retired I like to learn something new everyday just to keep me cognitively sharp. This set of programs really replaces some of Adobes popular programs especially with graphics. I always wanted to step in the water a bit deeper and just play around with things. I got a good grip on Photography when I took that up a few years ago and I have always had an interest in these other software programs. My degree studies are in Marketing/Sales so I see things in a different lens at times. One of the main reasons I enjoy your channel so much because of the attention to detail like with the shadowing on the bones, (That was brilliant!!!!!!!!) plus your gift of teaching is above the rest on RUclips!!!!
A huge thanks again for your videos George - I really apricate the inspiration I get from watching and learning your edits - Regarding PSE2025, then that three year time limit is also a deal breaker for me - will settle with PSE2024 for as long as it makes sense and might start using Affinity Photo 2 more moving on.
I will be doing a lot more Affinity Photo videos on my channel, and don't forget you can still get that 6 month free trial of AP.
@@HTGPhoto I have already been enjoying the Affinity Photo videos you have already made and those are equally awesome :-) .... I already got the Affinity 2 software, so I am sure I will start to use it much more ..... Keep up the good work George - it is highly appreciated 🙂
@@pallesteensgaard1010 Thanks!
Ditto on the 3-year term license crap especially in light of Affinity Photo’s 6-month free trial, relatively low cost, and no subscription needed upon purchase. Competition, nuff said.
Affinity is doing it right and Adobe is doing it all wrong.
Hi I just came across this video , very informative thanks, I already have purchased the 2025 version but cant find the curves adjustment button ? have they deleted it? thanks
PSE hasn't had a curves adjustment tool for years. There is one called Color Curves in the Enhance Menu under Color but it doesn't allow you to move the curves and it really is a Lighting adjustment and not a Color adjustment. There is a Curves tool in the Elements+ plugin.
@@HTGPhoto any idea where id get the plugin please
Well, they at least made it easier for me (and many others...)... time to learn Affinity
Which is why I will be doing a lot more Affinity Photo videos for my channel.
Affinity sadly doesn;t have the quick tools for removal etc.
@@NaukaPoProstu Affinity Photo does have quick tools for removal, etc. Check out the InPainting Tool, basically the same thing as the new Remove Tool in PSE.
@@NaukaPoProstu There is so many easy quick removal tools nowadays, even in my Pixel phone. And with the AI revolution around, they will only be more and more, pretty much everywhere (including free ones). At my side no justification from the company which has already a lot of issues regarding their reputation and arrogant behaviour towards their clients. And if THIS is the answer from them, following all that backlash, being exposed, sued, etc.; then this will be mine. Not a single penny from me for them anymore, they made a choice, I shall make one, too.
Make a video about that one! And other things relevant for the users who are considering switching to Affinity, or using both 2023/2024 PSE along with Affinity. BTW, do you think I should still buy the PSE Plus plugin?
George, děkuji za skvělé video PSE-2025! Je velká škoda, že se Adobe rozhodlo o tříletou licenci a tím možná ztratí mnoho nových uživatelů. Vám přeji mnoho zdraví, a pokračujte ve skvělé práci kterou děláte ok👍👏
Thanks Jenda! Will Do.
Co se mě týče, tak já doufám, že ztratí mnoho uživatelů. Potom, co jsem se informovat o všem, co má firma Adobe na svědomí, a přesto se dále chová, jak se chová... tak si to, zcela upřímně, zaslouží. Ten důvod, proč se chová, jak se chová, je totiž ten, že jí to její klienti umožňují. Je čas říct jasné NE.
@@pohlpiano I will be continuing videos for PSE but will be using Affinity Photo myself for more of my work.
One thing I was looking for info about but you didn't mention it ..... does it have the AI thing that lets you expand your canvas and it automatically fills in the new area? What I'm talking about is like reverse cropping. A friend of mine has the full (expensive) Photoshop, and he was showing me how awesome it works. I was hoping that would be included in the next Elements, but haven't found out if that is included or not.
That's Generative Fill and it is only available in Adobe Photoshop. I highly doubt that it will ever be available in Elements.
What happens to the older existing version of PSE during the upgrade? At the end of the 3 years, you decide not to renew the license for 2025 can the user revert back to the previous version of the PSE before the upgrade?
Your older versions will still be on your computer and will still work. Only the new 2025 has a limit and won't work after 3 years, basically there is a timer on the software. Older versions don't have that timer. Of course when we get to 2029 and if you are still using 2022 or 2023 it is time to upgrade anyway.
@@HTGPhoto Point taken! Thanks for the clarification.
I already know what my hopes are with Affinity.
Good point about no upgrades during the three year time period. For customers keeping up with PSE, there was no reason to set a restriction on the usage time. 😮 Control!
I'm thinking that they have lost a lot of money due to the pandemic and inflation. I know that I did.
Thanks . I don't think that updating will make things I need to do any better than I can already with version 24. Also having to pay again after 3 years has put me off.
I agree, that 3 year license will put a lot of people off.
George, nice upgrade with the new AI tools! I agree with the subscription problem you mention. Why is it so hard for these companies to just come up with something that is give and take, yet fair? I would not mind the three year subscription, but at least update the program for the next three years as well!!??? I am not sure what that would do with the pricing structure, PSE customer base is not going to pay much more than they currently do but I could see a small increase as a trade off perhaps?? I think I will probably just sit on this one till after Christmas and the New Years. By Feb/March they will be discounting it down another 20% or so, I can wait. By then the three year thing is not going to be as much of a big deal for me. I wonder if this decision has anything to do with the timing of when Windows 11 will be on all computers and Windows 10 will no longer be supported??? Perhaps the Windows 11 platform is going to require a major restructuring of how PSE operates!!???
Thank you for the great update!
Rich
Always good to wait for sales on PSE. The real problem at Adobe is that they just don't know who their PSE audience is. They think the audience is made up of people recently out of college with a kid or two who do a lot of social media. Acording to my experience here on RUclips the primary audience is retired or nearing retirement and with a fixed income. I am guessing they lost a lot of sales due to the pandemic and inflation. My sales dropped a lot for the same reasons.
@@HTGPhoto Wow. You’re describing me exactly!
@@99jlink I get pretty good stats on my audience from RUclips. At the moment over 60% of my audience on this channel are over 55 and most of those over 65. Less than a third of my audience is what Adobe thinks the audience for PSE is all about. The problem with Adobe is that their core audience is corporations who like subscription payment models, better for bookkeeping as it is a use expense instead of an asset that needs to be tracked and depreciated over time.
Does Afinity Photo edit in 8, 12, 0r 14 bits? PSE is limited to 8 bits (AFAIK). I have Afinity 1.2 (?) and PSE 2022 along with a waiting Windows 10 computer. I always shoot in RAW. Which should I install first? Or which should I install period? I should be able to get Bridge free, as I have several registered copies of PSE (13 & 15), installed and activated. PSE 15 handles all the RAW files from my "ancient" Nikon DSLRs (3xxx, 5xxx, & 7xxx series)
FWIW, I loved PSE 5, while PSE 7 was garbage. None of the organizers I've used effectively deal with very large catalogs.
Affinity Photo works natively in 16 bit mode. I prefer the Affinity Photo RAW editor to the PSE one. In Affinity Photo it is the Develop Persona. Bridge is much better than PSE Organizer. My favorite version of PSE was version 10. Little side note, the first PSE course I produced was for PSE 4. As far as my personal recommendations, if you are primarily a photographer than Affinity Photo is better. If you like doing the creative stuff then PSE is better, basically more filters and it runs a bit faster than AP. Except for PSE 2025 which seems slower to me than previous versions.
@@HTGPhoto Many thanks for the quick hit back on that. I'm just a "snapshot photographer", no need for the filter nonsense. Of course I take my snapshots with everything from an 8 mm FF fisheye to 400 mm tele, while carefully skirting 35 & 50 mm focal lengths. (and people). Although, "Boo at the Zoo" (Philly), is the next 2 weekends. The lavish face painting and costumes make it almost worthwhile not to simply concentrate on the wildlife.
Funny story (?) As part of of an AAS program, I had a course in view camera, (4x5) For me it was the most god awfully unnerving experience, standing out on city streets with the focusing cloth over my head. Those were the days, ISOs topping out at 400, (325 tungsten), begging to use the color print processor..... Apologies, I do sometimes tend to ramble on. Oh and many thanks again.!
@@captaincrankysdock9730 That takes me back, I just love large negatives.
Cannot find the upgrade for 2025. I don't want the 3 year plan. If you find it a link would be great. Everything I see is with the 3 year subscription .Thanks for your help
Hi Norman, all versions of 2025 have the 3 year limit, upgrade or not. So if you upgrade from a previous version you will be going from lifetime access to a 3 year limited access plan. Of course you will still have the earlier version on your computer and that will still be lifetime, but if you are looking for a lifetime 2025 that doesn't exist.
Thanks for your help
Then I guess I will stick with my 2020 element.
Another great video, thanks for sharing. I don't like that it's for only 3 years!
Thanks for watching! I don't think that Adobe understands their audience for PSE. One of the top reasons most people buy PSE is that it is a one time purchase, with no time limit.
Wow thank you for the heads-up about PSE 2025 moving to a 3-year licence, didn't know that. I bought PSE 2024 because I refuse do software subscriptions, I will only pay for buy-it-once-and-it's-yours software. Now that PSE has gone that way too, I'll be sticking with 2024 until I find something else. I do have Affinity, but as a Photoshop user of 3 decades, find it difficult to switch, plus Affinity just got bought by a megacorporation whose own software is subscription-based, so I fear Affinity going that way too.
You're welcome! I think that Affinity Photo will stick with the current pricing structure because they understand that the biggest complaint against Adobe is their subscription model. So that is Affinity Photo's most competitive sales point. I will be adding lots more Affinity Photo videos to my channel, so that should help you get comfortable with the software.
@@HTGPhoto I do hope Affinity's new owners will understand that it would be a good idea to stick with the one-off purchase model for that product, in order to be serious competition for Adobe. Thanks, I will watch your Affinity tutorials - thank you for those and the PSE ones, all very helpful!
@@EzzyFallsOut If they are smart at all they will stick with the single price model.
@@HTGPhoto Here's hoping!!
Thnx for the review. I am new with pse and is the license 100 for 3 years? I don’t have to pay for an upgrade each year? Only after 3 years? So it is better then buy pse 2024? Regards, Ron
Hi Ron, the license is for PSE 2025 for 3 years, after that it stops working. If you want PSE 2026 next year that would be a new purchase. The 3 year license doesn't give you any updates. In 2024 and earlier there was no time limited license, you can use 2024 or earlier for as long as you like. Of course as always, if you want the upgrade you have to purchase the new version. If you can find a copy of 2024 that is the better option if cost is an issue. For me I upgrade every year anyway so the 3 year limit doesn't affect me. If you like the new features then you would need to get 2025 and live with that 3 year time limit.
@@HTGPhoto So it cost me 100 am I jave it for 3 years but if there are new features in a year I must pay for the upgrade. And the only reason if I wanna buy 2024 is that it cost me a littl3 cheaper and it is for life. Correct?
@@Ron1961 That's correct. I personally believe that software should be updated every 3-5 years anyway to keep up with the computer operating system. But there are loads of people on my channel using 10 year old PSE with no issues. To be fair, I upgrade every year and I also have a subscription to Photoshop and Lightroom. But if I was on a budget I would stick with 2004 or maybe get Affinity Photo.
@@HTGPhoto maar als ik dus de 2025 koop en geen update het volgend jaar neem, kost mij dat 100 voor 3 jaar? Dat is toch ook mooi?
@@Ron1961 True, the issue most people are having is that it used to cost 100 one time only, for life. Now it is 100 for 3 years. Since I upgrade every year anyway I personally don't care, but many people don't plan on upgrading for a long time, for those people it is a big problem.
You should have used Spot healing Brush for the same task, I sense they just coppied the icons and added AI in the name
The Remove Tool is different than the Spot healing brush tool. It is more like an easier way to make a selection and then fill it with Content Aware Fill. I like the new Remove tool a lot, but since it isn't actually AI it isn't perfect. Where it works it is fantasic, where it doesn't work the old method of selections and Content Aware Fill still gets the job done.
I have a 2023 version and it now malfunctions. I was told by Adobe that the software updates are for 2 years only so I am out in the cold. I did not know back then that my 2023 copy would malfunction after 2 years- so, the fact that the 2025 version lasts for 3 years is not a surprise since mine is now not working efficiently after 2 years
I have much older versions of PSE that are still working fine. Don't bother contacting Adobe, their response is always to buy the new version. Try uninstalling and reinstalling the software. If you have any plugins installed remove those as well.
I have PSE 2024. Will 2025 override 2024 so that I can no longer use 2024 in the event I don't like 2025?
No, 2025 is installed separately so you will have both. There is no real reason to upgrade from 2024 to 2025 unless you really like the new features.
FWIW Kidz, I suspect Adobe is trying to wean people from the idea that PSE is a freestanding program, and nudge it into the subscription realm. The DVD version was discontinued as of PSE 2022. Charging say $5.00 to $8.00 a month, would give them the rationale for upping the price of Photoshop itself by a similar amount. Maybe I'm just paranoid. But then again, maybe I"m not.
You are right, this is the first step towards a subscription based model for PSE.
I WILL never rent a program . I am done with ps
I understand your frustration. This is possibly the biggest mistake Adobe could have made with PSE. Like I have said several times in the past, I love PSE, but I don't feel the same way about the Adobe company.
The 3 year licence is putting me off, my current version is 2020 and was hoping to upgrade this year, but think I will go to 2024 instead.
That would be my recommendation as well.
Thanks for covering the changes, George. I won't be buying Elements again and I will be moving to Affinity v2. Mediocre updates and I assume Adobe will move to annual subscriptions for Elements, 3 years being the starting point to rein in. No thanks
I think you may be right. The 3 year time limit may be just a step on the road to full subscriptions since this basically is a 3 yearly subscription as opposed to the yearly subscription for PS.
It is time for customers to say BIG NO to all what Adobe has done to the market.
@@pohlpiano But they won't because too many people depend on Adobe products to get their work done.
If you are old like me, you remember a time when PC's came with tons of software with lifetime licenses pre-installed. Dang, I miss those days. Nowadays you be lucky to have windows 10/11 home edition. Even office you must pay. Plus PC's are triple in price as well. Adobe has nice software, but they are super money hungry. Its a cringy company. And now with the software expiring? I thought I only worry about my milk and eggs expiring, not my PC software. I still cannot get over this subscription software, technically you do not own none of it. Its like a rental and an expensive one at that. If your in business, you can afford it, but most people on here and just regular folks that occasionally edit photos or videos. $60 a month is not economical. If you have a few software subscriptions, your paying $200-300 a month just to sit on weekends and play around, not counting the internet service and the PC itself. PC's are such a necessity as well.
Hate to say it, but yes, I remember those days. I also remember going to Kinko's Copies to rent Macs by the hour to do my computer work since I couldn't afford the software. Back when Adobe Photoshop cost almost $1900. Even in the year 2000 it still cost $700 and almost $1000 for the Extended version.
In the audio world, the plugin audio company Waves infamously tried an Adobe style move switching to subscription only model practically overnight (sending an "April The First" style e-mail - ironically, i think actually it was almost April - to their clients), and results - HUGE immediate backlash, people posting videos about how to replace the Waves stuff, etc. And like in a week or two, company apologized, offered huge discounts and went back to the previous pricing /i.e. the customer choice, either subscription, or not/. So customers have the power, and Adobe even after all these recent controversies, being exposed, sued, etc., still acting like that they are the BOSS, and we all are their b...s... just NO, NO. BIG NO NO.
@@pohlpiano If Adobe understood their PSE audience they would never try the subscription model. The number one reason viewers on my channel say they went with PSE instead of Photoshop is that it is not subscription.
I thought I owned the 2023 version but after my recent computer software update my Elements 2023 malfunctions. I was told by Adobe that they only do software updates for 2 years so now I am out in the cold. I am fed up with them
@@miaalbani1640 Try reinstalling the software. Also I know from your other replies that you are on a Mac. That is important to know since Elements is made for Windows and is then converted to work with Macs, so it has never worked as well or as reliably on Macs.
I’m using the 2023 version that I payed outright. This new version is not worth upgrading and having to pay for a subscription. It won’t be long before Adobe goes by way of the DoDo bird. Getting overly greedy will come back and bite you in the a$$. 👎
This is not their only money grab. Starting in January their Adobe Photography plan with Photoshop and Lightroom goes up 50%. I am guessing that they have been losing money and are trying to get that back by raising prices a lot.
@@HTGPhotoif they are losing money, and raising prices to recoup, then it’s a recipe for disaster. I don’t think filing for bankruptcy will break any hearts.
Get lost, Adobe with 3 years license.
That's why I am now also doing Affinity Photo videos on my channel. It is more like Adobe Photoshop and it is a single pay, keep forever program.
@ get lost was addressed to Adobe. I hope they will understand their mistake
@@B1_Anton I've never seen Adobe respond to customer feedback. I love their products and hate their company.