WTG - The Crossover Battle (StarGate v Star Wars v Star Trek)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Blowing up an activating supergate is a bad idea. Who knows what space-time rifts you might get on your hands....
Well, here's yet another Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs StarGate video. I feel I've pushed the limit of home-made crossover film. I belive I'm the first to include Atlantis in a video like this, let alone include eight ships, saucer separation, and a reason for why the ships happen to be in the same universe. I've alse taken the liberty do some simple editing and made sure it's as canon-compatible as possible. I'm sorry for the horrible quality in the beginning, and the slight audio desync you might notice at some places. I've done what I can about it.
I'd be happy to debate any technical details or plot flaws. But please keep civilized, the latest major comment tree about tactical technicalities didn't turn out pretty.
Try and keep track of the location signs, or you will get quite confused.
Damn, Stargate SG-1 is so remarkable... The best tv series ever in my opinion.
for me it's tied for my favorite with farscape.
Onemaster "
Firefly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I prefer Star trekk, at least the first ones
Indeed
"Hyperdrive is down and we've lost all weapons"
_proceeds to jump to hyperspace_
Gets hit with planet destroying blast
"At this rate the ZPM will be drained within days"
Is it even a contest at this point?
Just enjoy this impossible crossover hahahaha
I remember in Atlantis when they had to protect a planet from a coronal mass ejection and they just kinda flew in front of it and deflected it with their shields.
So that was fun.
@@Sereomontis being hit by the death star is about the same
lol I dont care if you have a zpm your not reflecting a death star blast
@@theblackcelt I should think its way more. the energy required to one shot a planet would probably be a million times more powerful than an Ori cannon and those can get thru bc304s in a few shots
Let's be real though, the true fight for the Stargate characters would be getting over the fact that holy shit Star Wars and Star Trek are real.
"Infinity War is biggest crossover yet".
This video* "Hold my beer"
Doctor, what are you doing in Stargate?
Yea....
when the death star turned up I went. ohhhh shit. Looks like Q has been playing around with the universe's again.
That would be an interesting idea to start the crossover.
"Oh no, the death star is aiming at us (star trek or stargate), what do we do?"
"Move out of the way?"
"Oh yeah"
So true. Then the USS Daedalus/Enterprise beam a bomb trough their shields. (or the Daedalus take th bomb tha can destroy a whole solar system) Problem solved.
+jojo1234 What bomb that can destroy a solar system? I have watched every single episode of stargates sg1, Atlantis and universe at least 2-3 times and never encountered a weapon that can destroy a solar system, a ZPM or arcturus device can but they aren't weapons. Nor have I seen such a device in star trek.
+cadkls ISA bomb which was made by the Asgard can which Earth now has access to.
Mohammed Uddin And will most likely never be able to develop it, or would never use it if they could. Also since when was it called an ISA bomb? That's never been stated in any episode.
Mohammed Uddin What's the episode name? If it isn't in an episode, it isn't real.
I think these all make sense. Enterprise and Goa'uld Hatak are a good match. Enterprise stands no chance against Imperial Star Destroyer, but Daedalus fully equipped with Asgard technology would probably do quite well. No way they could take on the Death Star, but the thing about Atlantis' City Shield is that it was designed to be invincible. It would just compensate by sucking more power from the ZPM, which has enough energy to destroy a solar system if it releases it all at once. That means it could probably tank at least one hit from the Death Star. Then the drones find the Death Star's weakness Luke Skywalker style and boom.
+LupoCani ... check Idazami's video of combat tech comparison, you will find an unedited shot of the enterprise D blowing up a planets surface.
+Deander LP "Major Marks please make that ship go away."
And Don't Forget: General Order 24.
+Deander LP I'm not going into the what ship could beat what ship argument. But the warbird is not anywhere near the same size as a Star Destroyer. The Warbirds crew complement was 1500 plus officers. The Star destroyer is 30k plus. You have to remember that besides the crew and pilots and maintenance workers, you also had the land units it carried. Combat vehicles and Storm troopers as well as Navy troopers. The ship has to be far bigger to hold all of that.
+Deander LP It's a common misconception, based on a throwaway line in one TNG episode; it's contradicted elsewhere in TNG, based on reactions to laser weaponry that indicate that lasers can be a threat if stronger than the dinky lasers seen in Okona. After all, lasers are photons - a particle and a wave - and "400 gigawatts of particle energy!" can readily bring down the shields, as can solar radiation in excess of 35 terawatt-hours (which is in line with the non-canon TM's statement that the shield dissipation is ~1.05 GW.)Also, General Order 24 refers to destroying all life on a planet; the minimal threshold for biocide is well below that of pulverizing a planet, whether theatre-shielded or not. There is Star Trek tech that can actually destroy planets outright, but it's not something that an arbitrary Federation ship (or an arbitrary Enterprise) is shown to be capable of.
This was fucking fantastic, I was like "eh" at first but then I realized this was done on a personal computer, and that it had a baseline story that totally works. Like, subscribe, cheers.
P.S. when Atlantis jumped in with the wormhole drive I literally started cracking up and my cat fell of a bookcase.
this is Cat-Dropping good
gotta love the change in uniform after every attack scene along with Worfs hair shifting and Will Rikers repetitive speech attacks
"But why bother, transporters can simply beam everyone up and send them home"
"Fortunately, transporters are easy to disrupt. Deflector shields, ambient radiation, and even weak magnetic fields can easily prevent transportation. The Federation will therefore be unable to board our starships in combat. sensor-jamming equipment can render transport virtually impossible by keeping the transporter operators from being able to find safe destinations for their troops."
oh the enterprise would crush the goul'd pyramid ships, they have way more shields than the goul'd, plus their sheilds are designed to withstand photon torpedos which are comparable to the gatebusters, which are like the end-game weapon in stargate
they would be completely dwarfed by the deathstar but they can do something the empire can't, which is just move sideways and their photon torpedoes could just go straight down the "i-win-hole"
Shields are not designed for torpedoes thats why they use phasers to take out the shields first or weaken them. torpedoes are designed to do damage to the ship.
No, I'm pretty sure the system lords had starships that were on par with federation flagships, and anubis' were a good deal stronger than the other goa-uld ships. I judge based on visuals though, not on BS statistics that the writers masturbate on.
If anything Anubis' ships could probably withstand the federation ships and also Anubis' space laser could do major damage to any of the ships as long as he has the seven eyes. Also Star Wars ships would be easily destroyed by any of the stargate ships due to the Star Wars universes horrible shields.
LOL The Klingon Bird of Prey was ripped up pretty quick.
It would be really cool to see Darth Sidious and Ra face off against each other while the Ori, Romulons, Borg and Wraith fight each other! Meanwhile, the Daleks, Cybermen and Sontarans pay a visit...
Oh no, That star destroyer is shooting lasers at us? and they only have deflector shields? that's cute. Geordi, rig a Photon Torpedo with a timer and beam it onto their bridge. Those cooky Imperials.
damn i love me some stargate. they do have the best tech. thank the asgard and ancients for that.
I love the design of Asgard ships, especially the O'Neill class.
If the whole purpose of this video was to be enjoyable to watch, you have hit the mark perfectly! One of the best "vs" videos I've ever seen! Two thumbs way up! :D
+Avro Arrow make that 6 at time of comment
No!!!
it's all but not enjoyable
You did an excellent job on the crossover ships and battles. There are people who are nay sayers but do not put to much stock into what hey say. What they do not understand this is your vision and that they need to put up better work or shut up.
"When the powerful superlaser was fired at the planet, it met Alderaan's powerful planetary shield. However, the shield was unable to withstand the incredible power of the superlaser, and was destroyed within milliseconds. At full power the hypermatter reactor had given a superluminal boost to the beam, which upon contact with the planet pushed a large portion of Alderaan's mass into hyperspace, destroying the planet in the process.
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That planet had shields too hum very impressive i should say
''A Star Destroyer used its light trench-mounted guns to vaporize 40 metre wide asteroids in TESB with 1/15-second bursts, resulting in a lower limit of 22,500 TW for light turbolaser output. Note that this only applies to light turbolasers. If the ratio of light to heavy turbolaser output is proportional to the size difference, then heavy turbolasers must therefore output roughly 2.8 million TW.''
Last time I remember The Empire Strike Back is a movie therefore its screen evidence
the video quality made this hard to watch, but it's fun.
Come on ? The Goa'uld ships would have to figure out the Enterprise Shields frequency before they could even hit the hull of the ship . You're talking about 24 century weapons vs 20 century alien tech that if I remember correctly Goa'uld weapons had accuracy issues. The Goa'uld would be destroyed after one shot from a federation galaxy class cruiser. Putting a Star wars ship up against a Galaxy class ship is like shooting a tank with a water gun.
what you are not realizing is the time period doesn't matter. star trek 24th century tech is based soley on earth tech from their universe combined with what they learned from alien civilizations. goa'uld tech is based mostly on ancient/ashuran tech. the asurans/ancients civilizations is about 100 million years old, maybe even more. their knowledge as described by the asgard is almost infinite. the time period makes no difference, only the knowlege gained. actually, the goa'uld ships probably would have destroyed the enterprise ships, but i'll let them have that one because goa'uld tech is nowhere near as great as actual ancient tech.
***** Consider that Goa'uld technology comes often out from Ancient's technology from a milion of years before and going.And Ancients could do stargate, timetravels and all those kind of shiets.. so get over with it.. SG it's pretty deep into techonology indeed (let's not compare since they use Crystals while ST uses.. microchips? and SW ? Maybe valves. Big, big valves).
" especially since Star Trek also has time-travel"
star trek time travel does not change anything. It only create alternate universes.
Best Shield technology: Stargate universe, as BC-304, The Ori and Atlantis have ZPM powered shielding strength. No other ship in Star Wars or Star Trek has this kind of protection.
Best weapon systems: I call it a draw between Star Wars and Stargate. Star Wars weapons are mistakenly called lasers ALL the time, but actually those weapons are plasma cannons that are powerful and have a decent to fast firing rate. But Stargate has ultimate damage dealers with much more advanced weapons like plasma beams and Ancient drone missiles.
Best sensors: Star trek with Stargate close behind. While Stargate sensors have impossibly big range, Star Trek sensors are still more accurate, except misidentifying Empires cannons for lasers.
Best ship: BC-304 of course. Usually its said, that jack of all trades ship is master of none. But BC-304 has proven opposite by mastering all. Its a battle cruiser with carrier abilities and all sorts of sensor, science capabilities that rival if not outmatch Star Trek deep space vessels in every turn. Enterprise has only one advantage: Replication technology.
+4life4win i would have to disagree on one point star trek weapons excluding the death star are far more powerful then star wars weapons but i would agree that stargate weapons are better then ether
+4life4win they do call them Beam Weapons in Stargate, such as the Deadelus's Asgard Beam Cannon. As for Star Trek? not sure, I don't watch enough...
+4life4win I disagree, I think best weapons go to Stargate and Star Trek, Starwars shielding is generally weak (in its own universe) and they fire particle lasers. Now Stargate and StarTrek its more difficult, BC-304 vs Enterprise? I'd have to say the enterprise would win without the asgard beam technology, otherwise the BC-304 would win as once they get a part of the shields down or weakened, they would just beam a nuke on board.
+Scottx125Productions - Spiffingly Serious British Gaming! if u think that way, if enterprise wouldn't be commanded by picard but by someone else u can turn it around and make THEM beam a photon torpedo into some vital component of BC-304
I have to disagree, I am very good informed about the technology from star wars and star trek and star wars ARE actually firing lasers. but even if it would be plasma, that wouldn't make a difference since that's exactly what klingons are using, and they also don't really get through those shields, and they have their weapons tech specialized on starfleet ships
''A cutting beam was a beam of directed laser energy which was used to perform a cutting function.
Borg starships were known to have the ability to generate cutting beams of great power, strong enough to slice sections of a starship, or even a planet, open with great precision. In conjunction with the Borg tractor beam, their cutting beams were used to "scoop" pieces of starships or cities for assimilation by Borg drones and collectives.''
Funny how the Borg put lasers to good use hum.
It only moves the traveller into an alternate universe where events unfold more to his liking. An interesting consequence of this explanation is that we've really been following a group of characters as they move from timeline to timeline, so we haven't stayed in a single universe throughout the series run of Star Trek."
"Although the "many worlds" theory may have been discredited in real life, it seems to be the only way to explain Star Trek time travel as we've seen it on the show. It explains causality paradoxes in "City on the Edge of Forever" and STFC, and it also explains why time travel is not being used to solve problems, because it means that time travel doesn't really change anything.
''The visual effects in TESB were completely consistent with vapourization, therefore the simplest theory that fits the facts is the theory that these asteroids were indeed vapourized. The rapidly dispersing gas cloud would quickly become invisible, as do most gases in space (except for those which are kept in a continual state of excitation by outside sources such as enclosed stars or black holes, eg. in a nebula).''
There you have it.
"SW weapons simply heat things up- except for the Death Star."
''A Star Destroyer used its light trench-mounted guns to vaporize 40 metre wide asteroids in TESB with 1/15-second bursts, resulting in a lower limit of 22,500 TW for light turbolaser output. Note that this only applies to light turbolasers. If the ratio of light to heavy turbolaser output is proportional to the size difference, then heavy turbolasers must therefore output roughly 2.8 million TW.''
9:50 That's not a damage report, that's a savage diss!
not bad but but unfortunately star wars weaponry would not even harm the enterprise, they use lasers
They use turbolasers and some use heavy cannons.
at 4:48 when that guy did that crazy fall patrick stewart looked at him like "holy crap a red shirt just died in real life"
Haha! I noticed it too. I was thinking Patrick looked over his shoulder at him thinking "Damn man. Overact much?"
It's a shame the owners of the various franchises seem to have no interest in creating crossover shows. Fan edits like this have been popular for years. Who wouldn't like to see the Battlestar Galactica arriving in the Star Trek, Stargate, or Babylon 5 future? Who could resist an Asgard fleet confronting the Dominion, or the Vorlons going toe to toe with a Kelvan invasion force? How about Replicators vs the Borg? It's all great fun to think about.
peccatumDei. Sadly no matter hownit was done. Whether they were evenly matched or one side stronger than the other. There would be a riot of fanboys giving bulkshit statistics for why their prefered universe would win.
I think it would be awsome as long as it was fairly evenly balanced but sadly a lot of people dont share my view.
Watch sg vs st vs sw vs bsg.
Its basically an animated video bringing ships from just about every main sci fi universe together for a big fight
peccatumDei There was supposed to be a crossover episode between Doctor Who and Star Trek during ST: Enterprise, with the Doctor and the Temporal Agent Daniel collaborating.
Were the Borg ever microscopic/Nanite level?
''Federation shield technology is clearly in the low megaton range for resistance. The evidence for this is simply overwhelming, regardless of whether you employ the TM or not, and since Imperial shields are rated at a much higher level, there is really no contest at all. The high-megaton and gigaton-class missile weapons of a patrol craft like Slave-1 could effortlessly destroy any Federation warship with a direct hit, to say nothing of the much heavier weapons on an Imperial capital ship.''
''Asteroid destruction: according to Riker, it would take the entire photon torpedo payload to destroy a single 5km wide hollow asteroid in "Pegasus". In other words, it would take the entire payload of the Enterprise-D (a capital warship with a crew of a thousand) to equal just one of Jango Fett's seismic charges (a bounty hunter's weapon).''
but star trek has the ability to adapt as thay did countless times with battling the borg and dominion when we seen there first battle with the dominion aka uss odyssey and then with wayoun say that federation shilds have been useless and battles with the borg the point is thay like the borg have the abillity to adapt there shilds and weapons like to see how well stargate and star wars would hold up to the borg would be very interesting to see
+Thierry Saint-Jour ok a few things A transphasic torpedo render your shields comment moot
second the asteroids were different types
3 the widly told yield of the guns just doesnt hold up to what is seen onscreen
+Thierry Saint-Jour
There is no evidence of Star Wars ships being so tough in the movies.
They have little to no shielding, They rely on armor.
The voyager a weaker vessel than the Enterprise survived the big bang
Starfleet would adapt. They would just fly circles around the Star Destroyers at warp 2, far too fast for a manually targeted plasma cannon to have a chance at hitting them, and just keep strafing it until EVENTUALLY
those impossibly powerful shields would go down, and then torpedo the midichlorians out of their engines.
It would take FOR EVER, but Trek would win.
I agree with it. Unlike in Star Wars and Star Trek, Stargate Earth's techs been continuously updated and fed by a constant flow of over-powerful alien techs… a bit like the Borg who assimilate alien techs to become stronger, but without loosing its own identity. Star Trek (Federation) and Star Wars (Empire) technologies evolving much slowly simply because both imposing their own technologies (slightly improving over time) instead of assimilating others to their own (the Federation refuse to use cloaking device, as it have no alien ships in its fleet… as the Empire only use ships from accredited shipyards who all share similar and compatible technologies). Give a bunch of ZPM to SG-1 and they could do anything… assimilating ever stronger alien techs from unknown space areas.
Death star operates on hypermatter. so you are wrong '' At the heart of each Death Star was a gigantic hypermatter reactor, which possessed an output equal to that of several main-sequence stars. Within this chamber burned a reaction of prodigious proportions, fed by stellar fuel bottles lining its periphery.''
😳Crikey... now this would have been a great movie.. well done!!! 1 question.. '' Q... WHAT DID YOU DO?'''... just saying!!!
The Clone wars is confirmed as being part of the EU yet Lucas said the series is canon with following quote : ''''"This is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [Clone Wars] and the films," Lucas said in an interview released by SciFiNow - a science-fiction enthusiast magazine based in the UK, seemingly implying that the events of Clone Wars are top canon, which makes some sense considering how closely Lucas himself has been working on the series.''
People need to chill out. Of course Star Trek would crushed everyone (i'm in doubt about Atlantis Station) but nevertheless, it was a good movie. Gratz for the work mate! You dont have to hit my "faction" spectation to produce a good home made video!
Nice work on the vid! Ignoring all those fans who are arguing, this is a great vid =D Thanks for uploading it! =D
Eu queria realmente um crossover entre Stargate e Star Trek. Imaginem: Replicators e Borgs juntos e só a Enterprise e a Daedalus podem salvar o dia. Its be AEWSOME!
I thought The Doctor had stopped drinking High Tea while flying the TARDIS.
Prove that. The Guardian of Forever STATED: "All that you know, is gone." Not "You have shifted timelines."
Gone in the alternate universe created by the time travel not in the original universe.
It hurt so bad to watch.... but I couldn't look away... fan-gasm!
''Death Star blast (roughly 20 billion trillion megatons, ie- the number "two" followed by 22 zeroes). Planet blown apart at 5% of the speed of light. Even if we assume the shot was time-lapse photography (not that there's any reason to), the absolute lower limit is roughly 50 quadrillion megatons. Note that even if you scale this monster down by a factor of 10 million (to the volume of a Star Destroyer), you'd still have 5 billion megatons.''
So no SDs are not more powerful than the DS.
I'd like to see the replicators fight the Borg. Now that would be interesting.
SG's replicators and it's GG for all :)
Hello Humanoid Death Star Replicators. Good. Bye.
+Angelus Mortis Needed borg to combat deathsphere.
I just imagend the situation: Lord Vader, they're eating our ship!
+jojo1234 Loool that would be funny
Also, SW has ion cannons, proton torps, plasma torps, electron torps, particle beam cannons, mass drivers, etc. Plenty of weapons to blow up ST ships. ^^ So dont worry about that. ^^
Stargate has the advantage.
D&D D&D But Still no match for the power of the Force!!
+D&D D&D You can't block bullets with lasers.
Using the force can just push them away.
+D&D D&D yes but the star destroyer was teleported to the star gate universe, so there is no force there
+D&D D&D no offense, but stargate and star trek wins
This is excellent work.
An idea: you could have used the visual similarity between an Ancient drone from Stargate Atlantis and the proton torpedo from Star Wars which blew up the first Death Star. You have quite a lot of interesting material in the S07E01 of Stargate SG-1 to link the two battles.
"make that ship go away". The best part. Even Stargatians hate the Duras sisters, lol.
''Obviously, turbolasers cannot possibly be lasers. They exhibit none of the characteristics of lasers. They travel much slower than the speed of light, they interact with one another (as demonstrated by the combining Death Star beam), and they are visible in vacuum. To put a twist on an old saying, if something doesn't walk like a duck, doesn't look like a duck, and doesn't quack like a duck, it probably ain't a duck.''
Star wars ''lasers'' act more like plasma weapons.
To destroy shielded planets. In TESB they cleary mentioned that normal ships wont do vs the powerful planetary shields of the star wars universe. For Alderaan was shielded and thats why Tarkin chose that planet to test Death Star. And it did a great job.
You are insane. No words you have typed make a fiber of sense, and you are obviously triggered because your team lost
He doesn't know how to reply
This is very awesome, make more
''There is just no way the Enterprise can effortlessly ward off blasts of near-infinite energy just because that energy is electromagnetic (referring to true lasers but not Star Wars ''lasers'' since they act more like plasma weapons in nature. Further, we have seen highly powerful electromagnetic fields affect the ship's technology in other episodes, so a more focused version of that with sufficient power shouldn't be so easily ignored.''
So Picard was lying. Sorry.
wow shields that can last days under the death star must be some good dam shields
By doing a frame by frame analysis of Alderaan destruction. When Death Star superlaser hit Alderaan, the shield protecting the planet was glowing for a split second. But the superlaser was so trong that vs shield failed vs such firepower. Also the novel of the movie (novelizations are G-canon btw, ultimate canon) confirmed that Alderaan was a shielded planet. The 200 gigaton figure come from TESB when a star destroyer was seen vaporizing 40m-100m iron asteroids in quick succession.
Phasers cannot hit ships in hyperpace since warp operates in normal space and hyperdrive operates in an alternate dimension.
Stargate for life
''Death star = death.
Unless they took down its shields and transported a torpedo into the core :)''
star trek transporters are shit and can be easily blocked :
''Transporters present vulnerabilities of their own. We learned in "When the Bough Breaks" and "Realm of Fear" that they are better at insertion than extraction, hence the common practice of sending men from one ship's transporter pad to another ship's transporter pad, hence tying the two systems together. We learned in "Skin of Evil" and "Tin Man" that telekinetic forcefields can block transporters completely. We learned in "Symbiosis", "Suspicions", and "Quality of Life" that they are erratic, unreliable, and sometimes completely useless in the presence of ionizing electromagnetic radiation. We learned in "Royale" that an environmental containment forcefield can block transporters even when it permits communications to pass through. We learned in "Ensigns of Command" that transporters don't function in entire star clusters where "hyperonic radiation" is present (although no one knows what hyperonic radiation is) and that they can be rendered useless by the mere presence of certain unusual subatomic particles. We learned in "The Enemy" and "Power Play" that transporters don't work through naturally occurring atmospheric electrical storms. We learned in "The Hunted" that a sudden movement can disrupt a transporter beam. We learned in "The High Ground" that transporter locks are more difficult than simple visual acquisition, ie- it's possible for something to be visible to the naked eye but impossible to acquire with a transporter sensor system. We learned in "The Most Toys" that certain substances can't be transported at all. We learned in "Legacy" that the electromagnetic fields generated by an ordinary electrical transformer can prevent transport locks, and that they can't transport through 2 km of solid granite under any circumstances. We learned in "Second Chances" and "Final Mission" that the natural fields emanating from certain inhabitable planets or moons can prevent transporter use completely. We learned in "The Host" that transporters put stress on the transported subject, and that it may therefore be dangerous to transport wounded personnel. We learned in "Darmok" that an energetic ionosphere can block transporters. We learned in "Hero Worship" that they can't transport through "victurium alloy" bulkheads, thus leading to the obvious question of what other materials are opaque to transporters at that thickness. We learned in "Schisms" that transporters don't work in the presence of nucleonic radiation. We learned in "True Q" and "Lessons" that atmospheric ionization can prevent transporter use entirely. We learned in "Descent Part 2" that all of the transporters on the entire USS Enterprise can only transport people at an average rate of 1 person per second. We learned in "Pegasus" that there are dangers associated with transport through large amounts of solid matter. We learned in "The Chase" that tractor beams interfere with transporters, and worse yet, we learned in "Attached" that a cunning enemy can use tractor beams to redirect a transporter beam to an arbitrary spot of their choosing!''
Star wars dense armors, powerful shields and jammers would render transporters useless. Hell star wars engines emit ion particles and that would render transporters useless too. And star wars ships could use their tractor beams to send any star trek torps back to these fucking idiots star trek officers. ^^
Dude, you sure do know your stuff. A+
RunningWithRoses I have to be honest with you dude, Micheal Wong is the one who knows his stuff. Check out his website : www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html
www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/
***** In a Voyager episode, Janeway used the transporters to beam over a photon torp inside a Borg ship which resulted in the ship being destroyed. The Borg were just too dumb to beam back the torp lol. But as I mentioned times, transporters can be blocked with jammers, shields, dense armors, ion particles, tractor beams, etc.
Thierry Saint-Jour True, there is that instance. Also, the borg aren't that dumb. Establishing a transporter lock takes a moment, which Janeway was smart enough not to give them.
+Lupo Cani How about a Transformcannon then? (Perry Rodhan)
One of these 2km Motherships could have torn the whole empirial/federation/Taori fleet. Those things can only be blocked by certain shields, and none of the ships in this video has those. Even if, they could just wreck them by transporting the bombs around the ships. And the paratron shields are invincible compared to those ships.
A master degree and a PHD did the calculations.
Where did the saucer section of the Enterprise D go?
The Star Destroyer does not use lasers, however, the damage delt to the enterprise by Star Wars weapons was accurate
A.K.A. The Star Destroyer would almost, if not completely destroy the Enterprise. No bias due to the fact I love both Star Trek and Star Wars the same amount!
Except Star Destroyers don't use lasers, all weapons in Star Wars, including light sabers use superheated plasma contained by an EM field. If they were lasers, they would be a continuous light beam instead of red plasma bullets traveling at around 150 miles per hour. (Speed of blaster rounds have been found by the Mythbusters)
"The ONLY form of "ionizing electromagnetic radiation" in reality is LIGHTNING, which is not just some ambient static."
TY for proving how simple storms can block transporters.
As much as I like Startrek. The Lucian Alliance vessel should have easily outgunned the Enterprise. Stargate is over kill in power compared to the other shows.
+Mohammed Uddin *cough* guns made by ascended beings -Ori- *cough*
+Lord Chaos of the Chaos Kingdom not canon *cough*
+KLamki1 excuse me?
Should of got the Borg involved. tens of thousands of borg cubes would wreck anything. All of star-fleet could barely handle 1 cube.
Lasers can't penetrated Enterprise's shields and the BC-304 with Asguard modifications and ZPM got the best shields and weapons ...
it's cool and all, but it's kinda bullshit that a primary battery shot from the death star didn't completely obliterate the star gate ship
Also the Death star can see star trek ships at warp since wearp operates in normal space and we konw star wars sensors work well in non hyperspace situations.
There is no underestimating Star Wars to any degree; it is significantly more primitive, that has followed a repeating cycle of war led by religious nut cases, with no technological advancement in over 35,000 years, massive technological anomalies, massive tactical and political flaws, massive evolutionary questionable, and is a Fantasy.
The fact that an actual bullet weapon can cause serious damage to a Star Wars ship is a massive disappointment on Star Wars' attempt to claim as a Sci Fi. This bullet weapon wouldn't be able to bypass a Star Trek shielding since Star Trek shields don't fail to deflect from such primitive weapons, plus would require a serious KE to bypass the shields, which Star Wars cannot manufacture at all.
Palpatine overseeing the outcome of the Clone Wars doesn't suddenly mean Star Wars is 1000x more powerful when the Empire takes over. Any assumption like that is severely ill thought out and incredibly arrogant to even Star Wars' canon.
The Clones couldn't defeat the droid army easily. The clones and Jedi were severely struggling. Don't pretend the droids are just shooting targets; those poorly aiming fodder bots even brought fear into the Empire with their stance at Mustafar after the fall of the Old Republic.
And just because canon says something is how it is, doesn't mean it will actually be valid. Like Star Wars' Laser energy output is utterly bullshit.
The Empire can't just simply replicate more advanced technology or use their tactics either; Star Wars' only means of boarding a ship is to use another ship. This won't work against Trek ships since Trek shields don't fail unlike Star Wars' shields do.
Plus the Empire won't know how Phasers work, nor the advanced Trek shielding. This is like telling a caveman (Star Wars) to replicate a Bi-Plane (Star Trek); it just doesn't work.
Pretty looking sugar coating on a Fantasy doesn't mean it's better either. That's just common sense, which you seem to lack.
Star Trek ships also have weapons. They don't look pretty but they're weapons, and they can instant kill Star Wars ships.
As for the Malevolence's super weapon, it's tuned to work on Star Wars ships and needs to be a massive size to work. Technological stand points suggest this super weapon wouldn't work on a Trek ship, let alone hit a Trek ship since Trek ships can impulse out of the way. (Or be cloaked and entirely undetectable to start).
In fact, there is only one Star Wars super weapon that isn't extremely massive in size just to accomplish its goal, and all that super weapon does is take advantage of a star's fragile structure.
When it comes to the Emperor, he got two moon-sized battle stations destroyed by fighters. Yeah there's literally no Sci Fi that needs to be scared about Star Wars knocking on their door one day.
Worst part about your argument is you don't even provide evidence to support, well, anything, let alone common sense or if there's even an intelligent life form on that end of the Internet. Your arguments are basically mute until such time you provide some sort of proof that Star Wars would somehow be able to fight Star Trek, which would be extremely difficult to accomplish since not even Star Wars canon has anything even remotely impressive. I would know this for a fact; I checked in extreme depth.
+alex pattee star trek shielding could not handle a particle beam which is nothing but a bullet moving near the seed of light. And yes this is cannon
I have been watching both since before you were born phaysers, disruptor, even lasers are particle weapons the laser is simply light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation which makes it a particle weapon, honestly bullets are solid masses to matter particle emissions are nothing more than in layman's terms dust, as in tos when a nuclear missile can't even burn the hull of the enterprise, not to mention the constant realization of one thing my basement taco, gamer friend star trek is an attempt to realise a possible future, based on rules of science where as even our community of respected scientists have backed as making very few scientific mistakes, really both are fantasy, interesting u probably own a cell phone which was directly inspired by trek, but hey if you want to continue to love your over blown version of the Catholic church go ahead, I have several degrees in the area of science, one like I said both are fantasy, both are fantasy, both are not likely, both have very loyal fans, both are very creative both have very good and very bad stories, I actually love both but I really don't want to argue about this all day, it is juvenile just like team Edward and team Jacob, so realistically I have better things to do.
+alex pattee Why does it feel like you forgot to mention Stargate at all? They have some pretty powerful ships and technology and of course the ancients who built pretty badass technology like the drones that go through sheilds as if they never existed and theb terrorize the hull of the ship. Then you have ZPMs which if used with Atlantis's Shields with multiple of them connected could withstand any attack thrown at them multiple times. You have puddle jumpers which are the coolest little ships ever, capable of firing drones, cloaking and if modified shields and time jumping. You have the asgard weapons which if used with a ZPM could cause heavy damage. You have the asgard beaming technology which allows them to board enemie shios or quickly evacuate the ship or beam a Gatebuster on board an enemie ship. You have the asgard core which has localized time reversal. There's so many things Stargate has that you failed to mention.
Don't really know much about star gate there for I don't talk on the subject. Wise man never speaks on a subject he has no knowledge of.
+alex pattee Good point. Sorry about that I just felt like stargate wasn't getting any love that was all.
they were all lucky with the executor and i know what went through their heads when the death star showed up, "it was at this moment that i knew, i up"
Wow! Thats pretty cool, i guess this is the best one can do with the available material. I love all three franchises, but SG is definitly my favorite. I wonder what an actual human spaceship would look like and work, if we ever get that far?
Oh my God holy crap this is mazing concept man
You know the Death Star fires a weeks worth of a large class c stars energy plus how ever much antimatter it wants all focused through what is accentually a giant light saber crystal there is no way in hell that what ever it is survived
+Zoatra what about it good job it survived a solar flare tell me how was a single solar flare going for ages and could not take multiple shots a solar flair puts only a small amount of a Suns energy so it's taking a hundred thousand solar flares times 7 + lots of antimatter it could not survive
I think the Asgard beam weapons on the BC-304 are a little underappreciated. It's easy to forget just how much damage they do. These pretty blue beams obliterate Wraith hives and Ori motherships in just a few shots. It's also easy to forget that Wraith hives and Ori motherships are similar in size to Borg cubes!
yet Kucas said he considers the Clone Wars as being as canon as the movies meaning the 200 gigatons per shot figure still stand.
This is one of these days when one nuke isnt enought
Am I the only one who thinks The Enterprise might actually lose 1v1 to a star destroyer??? Let's get real, I know that in Star Trek, lasers are not strong weapons, but Star Wars has different rules. If lasers followed the same rules in Star Wars as they do in Star Trek, then WHY is the Empire using them on their imperial star destroyers??? A star destroyers is a very dangerous ship with very dangerous weapons.
Theoretically Q could arrange this and eat popcorn
Adding the Galaxy Quest ship in this for the win would be funny.
Star wars ( crap shields if any) no grade weapons really it would be a battle between star trek and star gate
Exactly. Star trek is much more advanced than star wars
This was better than most videos of this type I've seen, but you got a couple of things wrong about Stargate:
The Lucian alliance didn't exist in 2003. Couldn't you have said 2005-2008 and just have a ba'al clone?
Which ship is this? Odyssey or Daedalus? Surely Caldwell said what Emerson said at the beginning.
Neither ship (or humanity for that matter) had Asgard beams in 2006. MAYBE Hermiod could have added one on the fly, but it is unlikely.
How is Atlantis in contact with the SGC in Pegasus?
Where the heck are the Wraith?
***** That was my point, they didn't have them. I said it's POSSIBLE that Hermiod or whatever Asgard is on the ship (if it's Daedelus it's Hermiod) could have made them, as the Asgard already had the technology, but it's still unlikely.
now we need a confrontation with the Doctor.
i'd like to see the Death Star Vs B5's Victory destroyer
Why is some of the footage quality so bad? Some of it is 1970's quality bad.
Also hyperdrive is at least 3,5 million c while warp is max 200 000 c. star wars ships can outrun slow ass phasers with ease while in hyperspace.
I never got into Stargate SG1 but crossovers a cool.
No ship can resist a direct hit of the Death Star not even Ori or Asgard grade shields
Would have been nice if you included some fighter scenes (maybe X-Wings vs. Wraith Darts) but otherwise a very good battle. I like how you kept it good guys vs. bad guys. In my experience Star (fill in the blank) vs. Star (other series) with good guys just ends with which ever one the creator is a bigger fan of being the winner. Only real problem here is that you had the death star fire twice when in reality it could only fire once every few days.
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I don't know the exact firing time off hand (and the wiki is just a bunch of made up numbers anyway) but the second one was capable of low powered rapid fire shots, so if you are depicting the death star II then this would make sense. I wouldn't be embarrassed by this, it is really good and one of the only videos of its kind that wasn't drowned in total fanboyizm for one series or another.
Nice bro
As a big fan of SG tech I appreciate this beautiful masterpiece
Not bad, not bad at all obviously the BC-304 is the top ship I mean after all it's has Asgard top end technology which is 100,000 years of technological advancement.
Oh, hell no. I'm a big fan of all three franchises, but you did not just make the ENTERPRISE go down like a bitch.
sorry no ship or station shielded or not would withstand a blast from the death star
stargate:please make that ship go away
*stardestroyer explodes*
This was really good. I liked it. Bravo!
You did a nice job on this, but she still limped away with her tail between her legs. Not exactly the same roaring victory the SG crew got.
hyperdrive is down on oddysey and yet she goes in hyper speed...
Star Wars was a long time ago in a galaxy far away so should be far more advanced by now. By the time of Star Trek next generation even more so.
How about: Starwars, Star gate, Battlestar Galactica, and Star Trek in the ultimate battle!
JDonahue79 BSG will lose quickly, even before Data can laugh abaut the fact that they don't use shield, then Data wuold have just the time to laugh because SW use laser, and then against SG it will be a really good fight, all depends on one thing: in SG they can fire at enemy that go faster than light (because the ship in ST can fight while in warp).