The Harsh Reality of League Hacking
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Chapters:
0:00 The Lobby Crasher
5:15 Name revealers
5:56 Drop hacking
8:23 DDoSing
9:06 The LCK Incident
12:02 Scripting
13:46 Vanguard continued
14:52 Final thoughts
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Unninstalled thew game as soon as i heard about vanguard back on january 7th this year, only reenstalling if they quit on vanguard, no way im fing up my machine for one game.
There are way more games out there using kernel level anti-cheat if thats what you are concerned about. You very very likely have already installed such on your PC at least once@@NeonDH10
@@NeonDH10I dont think raid shadow legends is using vanguard
If you haven't seen Unity Reaserch's video on vanguard and kernel level anticheat, it's well worth it. Even with vanguard, scripting can and will be performed on raspberry pis and arduinos. ruclips.net/video/RwzIq04vd0M/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I don't know why, but I fully expect vanguard to detect the league client as a possible threat and terminate it immediately, basically making it impossible to play.
But, like, is that a bad thing though? 🤷🏽♀️
It detecting threats to your social life, vanguard would be a chad.
Thats basically valorant's vanguard except they don't even let you use your PC :P
Sounds like you don't understand how any of it work then 🧐.
Hey lets just hope it doesn't end up Being like VRChats Easy Anti Cheat which my friend of mine made it detect itself as a cheat/hack and then permanently banned over 1000-10k players instantly with a perma ban.
Unreal , how many hackers and bots popup in the last 2-3 years.
its crazy how i haven't seen a single case he presented since 2019, hundreds of games, and the only thing that would be suspicious is someone hitting everything, but that could just be a skill issue on my part. My region is EUW, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the least hacked region.
@@xy2447 I also play on EUW and I've had 2 lobby crashes this year but I haven't seen a game drophacked since like 2016 or whatever year it was when drophacking was an epidemic and was a lot more popular.
Scripters are the most common "cheats" in my experience but they're still pretty rare. I think the NA server is much worse for all these things.
That's because "hacker" tools are now available everywhere and anyone can potentially use them given basic knowledge.
Creating these tools is the real challenge imo and is what sets a REAL hacker apart from just a tools user.
yeah it has to be korea and NA, sucks that everyone has to use vanguard@@Zorban13
@@xy2447 U need glasses then or u have high EGO. There are so many scripters out there and s oeasy to spot. Only this year i saw like 100 scripters. But i think they got banned becouse after my report they don't play any more games.
Linux players are fully iced out while mac users can continue without using Vanguard.... Plus these Kernel lvl anticheats have been beaten already...
kvm cheats is why Linux is blocked. that shit ran val for like 6 months. iirc, there is actually still a way to use kvm passthrough to get past vanguard and the Linux block.
@@velocity960afaik they use video capture cards with ai frame processing tools to bypass the ram readout where normal cheats get their info from... Some monitors already have ai functionality like giving warning when enemy is on screen... I get that closing off the more easy and affordable ways to hack. for me its way to intrusive to use on my main pc. Thats my ick and I don't fault anyone who is not concerned about it. From my point it feels like there wasn't even an effort to solve this problem and I, as Linux neckbeard, don't take kindly to it
It's a 'lose-win' lose cause there are still cheaters who bypassed them, even if it's an arms-race they still have to shell out personnel and resources, and the other unrelated players who sees it's a never ending arms-race would lose trust and consistency.
Win in the context of players are saved from this abomination of a esports-only optimized game, and they can be way more productive in life.
@@Jacknzyeah Its very minor but there was a monitor that was being advertised like right when Riot announced Vanguard for LoL. The monitor had alerts built into it for when you were about to get ganked. Ya just look at the mini map but it is still an advantage over other people. Less time looking at the mini map means you can focus 100% on your lane.
There's also Direct Memory Access, which happens at the hardware level--basically, instead of trying to get at the RAM via the kernel, you get at the RAM via a PCIe card that just reads from RAM like any other component would
On FPSes you can also often abuse QoL/accessibility features like crosshair highlighting by having a device read the pixels at the center of your screen and emit a LMB input when something turns red. What are you gonna do, ban people for left clicking? (You can do statistical analysis on the inputs, but...Vanguard ain't statistical analysis. It's a thug with a crowbar telling you he'll stand in your living room and bonk any suspicious processes.)
Banning someone from playing any Riot game under threat of LEGAL PROSECUTION sounds both dystopian AND like the best way to finally kick this fucking addiction.
True, but that's literally how its done nowadays. if you're a Dev of a cheat; you got 2 options. Work for the FBI (or the company you cheated at as anti cheat developer) or get jailtime.
however, people who cheat usually only get their accounts banned.
Pretty scary imo
@@Mempler since when cheats are THAT illegal?
Yeah, its true it sounds crazy, but if we analogize this to something in real life, it isn't so crazy. Imagine instead of a video game, Riot ran a pick up basketball league. They matched people based on skill. Every once in a while, you get a crazy dude who stabs the basketball with a knife to cancel the match so they don't have to lose. The player keeps showing up using fake names and IDs and keeps ruining games. After a while, you will call the police on them and them that they aren't allowed to be part of the league, and that they will be sued if they continue. This sounds pretty normal and fine imo.
@user-ir6pg9iy2k since the very beginning. It's usually pretty hidden news, though, but i know a few people who got prosecuted, thanks to developing a cheat.
If you develop a cheat, you have 3 unspoken rules:
1) Dont sell it (due to tax evasion)
2) Dont try to access other peoples computers (obviously federal crime)
3) Dont try to access servers directly (same reason as 2)
You don't own the game, and the terms & service that someone clicks on does go over reasons they can ban access to it.
I lost count of how many League players have shown up in the Dota 2 reddit saying "want to learn Dota because I hate vanguard and the Tencent" ... It's a real scare, whether you agree or disagree with it.
Yes sir
same with starcraft it seems :))
Oh, you're the one that teaches Dota2! I love your videos, I'm not too sure if the laptop I use for league would run Dota tho, sad. 😂
@@VenneleI am :) And why not, it's a very well optimized game...even if kind of buggy sometimes.
@@TZAR_POTATO , I'll see what can be done! :D After all, I don't need the graphics to be set on high to enjoy the game, hahaha
As someone who played on the Chinese server, it is nothing like any of the other servers.
The main distinction would be China’s flat out size as a country. There is no way you can have a singular server host that many players across such a large and wide country.
What did they do? They split China into roughly 30 separate regional based servers for players to select ones that have the most comfortable ping. This means that each and EVERY server was segregated and individual from one another and required a purchase of a region transfer to be moved to and from once accounts were made. This also means that each and every server had its own distinct player base as well as ranked ladder. Demacia’s ranked ladder would be completely separate from Noxus’s ranked ladder much like how NA’s ranked ladder has nothing to do with EU West or EU North’s respectively.
Examples: Players playing from Taiwan typically selected a server named Black Rose, while I played on both Ionia and Zuan from Shanghai because the pings were both below 20.
That being said, it baffles me that the NA server decided to completely fuck over their pro scene and west coast players by moving their SINGULAR server to Chicago rather than add a Midwest server as well as an East Coast server instead.
Riot could care less. That's really the bottom line.
Think they were concerned with the player base being too small but its been a long time so I dont remember well, all i know is i went from 80 ping to 20s :)
@@xiaoliu7071 I think most are just watching and reminiscing the old times like yours truly.
Is it just me who hoped someone would buy them out and kick everyone out that's not a developer role.
I'm pretty sure there's no changing for this game now, atleast for the better.
Everyone is trying to be the spark for someone to make a change.
i dont think theres enough people playing league to fill out multiple servers in na
I didn't realize that Riot decided to move their server. No wonder as of recent the game has been...a bit clunky to me. And maybe it was just my imagination, but some of the players I was playing with...start dodging a bit...too good. I'm E1/D4, and yes, there's always at least 2-3 smurfs in every game (which Riot refuses to do anything about since it boosts their player base), but a lot of them dodge at angle you wouldn't think they can or the player behavior is just strange. It's to the point nowadays in order to ensure a skillshot hit, I would just point-blank things at times just to be safe.
Are we really supposed to trust a company with kernel-level software to not brick our PCs when they cant even fix 10 year old bugs in their flagship game?
Yea I’ve had vanguard since Valorant was in beta and my pc is fine
@@djklaudin9924it essentially bricked my brothers it took up 1.23 terabytes and wouldn't allow him to uninstall it. He had to get new SSD and fresh windows. He also signed into his modem and get into his traffic, even when it was exited it was sending data back to a host server with scrambled credentials. This guy isn't far from off.
xD Yea because the company benefits so much from destroying your PC.
Seriously, how dumb are you for spouting such nonsense?
most anti-cheat is kernel level
@@interpoles3295 and most foods are shit for us. Its because we just accept it, not because it's better for us.
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I listen to Darude Snowstorm. Do not doubt my manliness. My DNA is so male the gender chromosome is XX just to one up the other males!
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yes, right, man stuff!
@hikari1690 Y comes after X though
@@xChimkin oh crud you're right!
No joke, you need to use a different kind of thumbnail for this “higher effort” videos. It kinda throws you off.
its actually great, i kinda dig it, because bro would just turn into a SunnyV2 of league and well, this makes him kinda unique!
I feel this
Apparently it works since he has high viewer count
hmm i like the thumbnail tho
Hilarious. A guy with literally zero subscribers telling a guy w/ 250k+ how to do his job. Please just like have a modicum of self-awareness going forward. Lmfao
What I dislike the most is that Vanguard is still bypassable, just take a look at the direction modern day CS2 cheats are going, if you think stuff like that isn't available for League you're just not in the right circles
yep. this stuff doesn't happen on Reddit, it happens on a locked cs.rin type forum that only 10 people can see
Imagine if League has a skin market like CS, cheat vendors would have an incentive to take League seriously.
If cheaters keep winning, they get more crates than on average, thus sell more than the average player, thus longer subscription to cheats. It's a symbiotic relationship.
What are you talking about? EVERYTHING is bypassable if you're the admin and you WANT it.
you dont have to be the admin xdd @@peacepham7838
There is no speculation to be made about any form of sending requests to riot's API to be blocked by Riot Vanguard. It's literally how their client works. Lobby crasher and all the other exploits in the client just abuse POST and GET requests which Riot doesn't care to check. From what I know in the last 4 years the only thing they cared about enough to add a check for literally ddosing clients by spamming game invites and some lobby crashers.. Which they fixed by limiting it to 50. There are ways to Q lvl 1 accounts in ranked and to force dodge an enemy player or teammate which they of course don't give a shit about.
Shoutout to that dude on twitter that reverse engineered the entire client and made one from scratch
@@kogmawgaming If we are thinking of the same guy he got a cease and desist from Riot and handed over the source code to them which ofc they didn't use to fix their buggy asf client.
@@strahinja9513 lobby crasher is actually very simply put. Its basically when you queue to ranked and lobby reveal to see everyones match history. If i see any bad players or inters in my team i crash it. its basically connecting to custom game lobby at the same time while ur in ranked and then leaving the custom game. That makes you leave the ranked match and everyone else just gets stuck in it unless they close league because league client gets confused when its missing 1 players and none dodged
@@strahinja9513 speed exploit is most fun still tho. you can almost infinitely scale movement speed still and its undetected after so many years of it not being fixed. it only gets you banned if someone tickets you
@@scoper7897 I understand how it works. That's still using the API. The fix for that is not Vanguard. They just need to add a check if you're already in game/champ select to create a lobby. They're too lazy tho.
i dont know about other servers, in EUW this season was the first season i almost reached diamond rank and it was the worst experience i had ever.
the amount of full lobbies of Chinese named players playing weird strategies and making weird moves is unbelievable, lee sins that always dodge everything even from fog of war or Ezreals sniping you across the map in a dark area.
and worst of all, team wide disconnects that only happen at convenient times like when a team fight is about to happen or a 3v3 tower dive or...
**Some enemies died**
**Someone temporarily disconnects the game, and connects it when his team has revived** 🤣
Ezreal sniping you from fog of war is very unlikely to be because of a cheat. Any computer is only receiving their team's information and things that are close to the fog of war so that the client can load it.
They are NOT receiving the information of you recalling in the dark.
For the Ezreal to be cheating, the server itself must be compromised. At which point a drophack would seem way better than just allowing Ezreal to hit 1! (one) R
The Raid Shadow Legends "Oh I have to keep talking about it?" 😂😂😂
I'm still shocked they just haven't created a new client for league yet....it's so buggy 😂 multi billion dollar company doesn't wanna spend the $$ for a new launcher on their most successful game... meanwhile fortnite overhauled their entire game into UE5
they actually did in like 2016. the old client was less buggy than the new one
@@jessquid how is this not shocking 😂
@@jessquid the old client was a lot simpler, but waaaaaay more functional
@@jessquid No it wasn't. The old client was just as buggy with 1/10th features.
There is obviously something inherent about the design of league that inhibits any sort of strides into changing the lobby and client systems.
As a developer, I will say many of the issues with the league client are not really technological but the result of lazy developers/bad prioreties or poor dev management. In theory (just like the game) the client should just be a user interface that allows you to request that actions be performed on the server, for example 'queue me up', 'edit my runes', etc. Just because you have a client that doesn't use web technology doesn't mean you are immune to primitive exploits like the ones shown here.
In my personal opinion, serverside anticheat and correct serverside access control could be used to make it nearly impossible to tell the difference between a cheating player and a good one. That is to say that cheats can only take advantage of artifically increased latency to make moves based on the state of the game in the future. (and ofc scripts which will always be an issue in every game no matter what in my opinion) If you want an example of this take a look at the most advanced minecraft anticheats, the developers of these anticheats don't even get to control what data the game sends between client and server and even with this incredibly sigificant handicap they can still bring cheating to almost zero without installing anything on a players computer.
I think you wrong when trying to compare game like LoL or Val netcode to Minercraft. There's no way what work on Minercraft server will work on LoL/Val. A competitive game with lot of server check like that will feel like shit, for real. Like it's not that Valve have been doing that for yrs on CSGO and now CS2, right? Right?
@@peacepham7838 I think you can do it, it doesn't have to be synchronous checks.
So I'll tell you how scripting work on valorant it is basically an external computer that see video signal of the main computer, read the pixels and send input to the main pc accordingly and there isn't a single way to detect this
at this point it's G_G
The main issue is that you are forced to install something on Kernel level, wich will have more power in your computer than all the things that a normal user is allowed to even on administrator mode.
People that have more knowledge with computing and pc in general, know that having that shit wich makes tencent be breached in your computer is lowkey fucked up.
And it's also running all the time, it doesn't just turn on the moment you are playing.
And considering the source code for LoL was leaked, whose to say there isn't a backdoor for the exact moment vanguard is implemented? That or scripts/cheats already able to bypass it easily when it's forced.. poor insight I guess
@@GrugGaming unless the implementation is incredibly shitty, there shouldn't be place for a backdoor from the league client since they operate at different levels.
But being an outsider idk how they are doing it, hopefully they being indie developers, know some cybersecurity.
Kernel level anti cheat is nothing new and surprisingly common. The big difference with Vanguard is that it runs at startup before pretty much anything else and if you close it you have to restart your PC in order to play again. All the other kernel level anti cheats are only active while you are playing the game.
@Karavusk The big thing with Vanguard is it's in control of CCP. I already see the headlines once the proxy war begins
@@Karavuskthe problem though is that kernel level anti-cheat is literally made redundant by having a effective ‘security’ team which deals with things like botting and cheaters.
It’s not necessary in any meaningful way and just presents a major security risk in the long term.
League is already a basically fully automated system which doesn’t work half the time so having more automation won’t do anything
Looking forward to seeing that vanguard video. All the news around it, especially the stuff about "if you play any of these other games on your PC, you already have something like vanguard" basically made me do a big sigh of relief that I'm 99.99% a console gamer. All I have to do is drop league
Everything i know about vangard tells me it only works with blatent hacking so valorant is still actually pleged with cheaters and they just dont notice it in game
plagued
*blatant
Tl;dr riot's trash spaghetti code client is still a root for most problems of these kinds in the game. I genuinely don't understand why they don't shift to a one-client style like Valorant which they literally have the functional code for and they could probably transform to league in maybe a month of work behind the scenes? This would solve so much more issues, make it a more modern client and not cuck people with random google chrome pop-ups that interrupt their games (I have a couple friends that claim they keep getting randomly stuck in chrome lmao).
They have all the means to improve the client once and for all but they just refuse to do it
If I am not wrong, PBE client is one-client style.
Would take too much work and resources to just make the exact same thing. Not a single investor or CEO actually aproves work that will take a long time for 0 profit
Meanwhile Dota 2, a very old mobba like league has a one client style -w-
If removing the forgotten scorpion champion took them three years because of his game interactions, removing the client might actually open a portal to hell irl
maybe... a month... of work... for a new client..........
bruh. I'll take a wild guess that you've never designed software before
your videos and editing just keep getting better, please make more of these documentaries!
There he is, the cat, the boi, Ryscu, jumping outta the bush with another banger video on a super interesting topic
Cringe ahh
@@officebear4637 What's cringe about it?
@@DeadMar0z OfficeBear is just jealous
I had a hacker in my game that I still remember, he was sion and legitimitely did a 180 on his ult in the jg by red buff. He went from going 1 direction to complete opposite instantly, in the space of a jg with numerous walls.
You can't play Zed with Aftershock. It automatically changes it to Grasp since Zed has no way to trigger Aftershock
Everyone knows cheaters are bad but everyone also fears that vanguard might fuck up your system...
Don't care, same way nobody that plays Valorant cares
@@47slogra ok cvck. Valorant still has cheaters, what now? Vanguard is practically useless and just a parasite then.
@@47slogra what if there are ppl like me and don't play Valorant cause of Vanguard? Thousands of hours in LoL but I'll drop it if Vanguard comes. And I'm not the only gamer who thinks the same
@@Whietie That's your right. Lol and Valorant will continue to exist though. There's plenty of other games you can have fun with.
@@TheSquirrelbeast yeah, I know. It's just i see lots of comments in same words: noone cares, it's only bunch of crazy weirdos etc. It's just i want higher standards in gaming industry so i'm vocal about things i dislike. Lots of shit happening in LoL could be fixed without Vanguard and Vanguard many of them won't fix. I don't like whole kernel lvl AC which is going more and more popular but it won't fix cheating problem. Ofc it restricts it by some margin but create new problems which happens from time to time and to which i'll never agree unless i have to (ie drivers to GPU, mouse)
Just had a cybersecurity lecture today talking about social engineering and network vulnerabilities. This video comes out at the perfect time! So interesting. Thank you.
You may not learn much cause their security is pre-dated if not at the basic level.
a local champions match like in the LCK shouldn't even be online on their servers tbh
I mean anti-cheat is all god and things but: The main issue here is that it is supposed to work on _Root/Kernel level_ of your machine, which something like (for perspective) a small program for a small online game should *_NEVER_* have.
The community is not afraid of Vanguard itself, we even encourage Riot to develop and ship it out. What we dread is: When it gets compromised, any infection nests directly at the base of your machine, which from a cyber security standpoint is equivalent to a doomsday scenario
Also, having this all under chinese houserules (Tencent) leaves a moldy aftertaste in your mouth...
isn't it also that Vanguard will be running at all times, even when not playing the game?
that's what makes it lucrative to breach it because you can then access millions of PCs cuz it's always on.
Your editing and video quality has improved sooo much lately. Nice work.
1 like = 1 skip for every raid shadow add on every video
One of the reasons people dont want vanguard for league is because vanguard tends to require a full pc restart when the game updates, and for a game like league where there's subweekly patches this will create a lot of frustration
i'd be more concerned about the huge drop in resources it's known to have and the fact that it can also disable your hardware via false positives, notably fans and cooling systems. There is then the problem that this software can be running multiple times on your system and is nearly impossible to remove.
@@nathanielbass771 "can also disable your hardware via false positives, notably fans and cooling systems", that had been issue long ago and no more. At the time factory software was full holes of exploit, but with Vanguard release and Microsoft push on security boot TPM, more and more factory update their driver, which is a good thing. As long as your new MotherBoard date 2021 onward, it's guccy.
I have never had this happen. Only when vanguard has an update am i forced to restart.
PC restart Takes 15 secs lol....
@@bartholomeo2075 depends upon your hardware. I've seen restarts take 5 minutes just due to how badly windows is optimized.
Great video! I love the breakdown of each term and examples used!
On the topic of LCK games not using a "true lan" because they still connect to an online server even though everyone is together -- riot actually does self-host local servers on premises for Worlds specifically because of networking problems that they've had in the past for tournaments. So they definitely know about the concept and have experience with it. I'm surprised they haven't done this for the regional season matches like you're pointing out, since those tend to always be at one location for the entire season, it'd probably be much easier to setup than worlds, since that moves between several locations during the tournament even.
Honestly I dont know how I feel about vanguard because its kernel level software. Everyone says that its just meaningless paranoia, but its important to understand that when you give any software kernel access like that they bypass all security protocols in place on your computer. Software never asks for this sort of thing because its not ever necessary to except for this one situation for cheat detection.
This includes both the security of not having crappy code brick your computer and not giving away access to all the data currently running on your machine. I had a lot of issues with games/software not running properly when I last had vanguard installed for Valorant and it was very irritating that I was closing out of vanguard to play other games and then restarting my computer to be able to play Valorant.
I just absolutely do not have faith in Riot to not write and push out dangerous spaghetti code. I dont want to rely on their amazing track record of cybersecurity and believe that they arent just giving other hackers a really easy backdoor into installing ransomware on my system. Not worth, rather just deal with cheaters occasionally.
I encountered my first hacker like 2 weeks ago. He had something super similar to what you were saying with the lobby crasher, but he was able to crash every single persons actual game on our team only, including himself. We were all super confused but his own team even outed him and said he was hacking
Amazing video, Ryscu! Glad to see you back!
Unninstalled the game as soon as i heard about vanguard back on january 7th this year, only reenstalling if they quit on vanguard, no way im fing up my machine for one game.
Blud thinks corporations don't already have all of his data 💀
@@exxidae1786 Then why not plaster your name and face, age and cell # outside your house? cause "what's one more make a difference" right?
Why stop smoking and drinking when you're already obese and diabetic? what's a few more make a difference?
Supremely genius logic.
"I may as well send all my details to this seemingly trustworthy Nigerian prince who e-mailed me. All that data's already out there anyways."
@@exxidae1786 Bro you show so little regard for you own security you might as well pull all your passwords in this youtube comment
@@MohammedAli-pj1it And you have no clue of cybersecurity and how kernel level anti cheats even operate. They literally pose little to no risk to your personal data. Like I'm pretty sure a lot of you already have one installed since every major competitive game these days uses kernel level anti cheat. People just bitch about Vanguard because Riot is owned by Tencent. Just a gigacope to think american companies value your privacy more than chinese ones.
your production value has gone up to rather impressive standards from what I remember of this channel even just a few months ago, well done.
i ain’t surprised at all that league has hackers i think every big pvp game has hackers for some reason everyone tells me that there are no hackers in fortnite but that’s literally the biggest piece of bull i have ever heard
I'm not too worried about Vanguard. Let's be real, if Riot wanted my personnal info, they wouldn't need a kernel level program to get it. The client is more than enough.
The problem is that if Riot gets hacked again then the hacker will have access to Vanguard which runs on kernel level aka that hacker can literally have full control over a PC with Vanguard on it
@@draculemihawk10 First, you DON'T need a kernel level access to read information (all your app can do this) or hack a PC, ALL of it just can happen with a click on a link. Second, if you want to hack, you find a backdoor or exploit in poor security, NOT try to hack a well guarded anti-cheat, you try to find a hole, NOT slam your head on the wall, so just sleep well.
@@draculemihawk10 no. that's not how it works lmao.
You'd have to be ignorant to believe that there is no hacking, cheating or scripting in league. But it is not even remotely as problematic as in most other online games.
Once in a norms years ago I saw an enemy who had 666 ad, 666 ap, 69 armor and 69 mr level 1. It was pretty funny tbh
Just started watching the video while in champ select and thought never seen a lobby crasher... And then it just happen crazy at 0 second crash
What a great video, well researched and really well presented! Keep it up like that, I love it!
I play on the vietnam server, scripts are kinda common here. I even picked up slang and phrases that specifically mean hacks or scripts. surprisingly aram is free of it while normals and even urf and ofa have scripters
Keep in mind that vanguard has been hacked in valorant and it will be hacked in league. Just a matter of time.
Gotta hold you right there.
Having an API, which allows you to do cool stuff is a given. This is fantastic from a programmers point of view.
And what is described here is all the API of the league client.
Theres also the In-Game API, where you can get super cool spectator information, like dmg dealt in teamfights, or current KDA and stuff, to display in your stream or in your discord status maybe. (See the League of Linux discord integration for example. - It will no longer work, since League wont work on Linux anymore, but hey, it was cool while it lasted.)
Abusing the API, to perform things normal users cant is called an exploit, and the API should be fixed regarding those. So yes that should be fixed, or made more secure - since most of those things wouldve super easy fixes.
This is all because Rito is a small indie company. They don't have hundreds of years of experience like Bethesda.
This is the best quality I’ve seen from you. Keep it up brother.
also vanguard was actually originally created for valorant but lately more games have been adopting it for anti cheat software and while hackers and cheaters do still get through it i think vanguard has had some of the highest amount of cheaters caught and banned over any other anti cheat even exposing some of the trickiest streamers that were hacking and forcing some of them to either shut down their channel for good or have to make drastic changes and many apologies and promises to never cheat again while losing fans in droves
One thing to note is that with the leak of the source, that could entirely be tied to the DDoSing of servers and gameclients by malicious actors, as the source could possibly include the encryption method used to hide Riot IDs. The source itself must include the functions used to encrypt information, and if the people who got a hold of the source have the knowhow, they can reverse these functions and make a tool that would let them ping and decrypt information from an account.
With the Chinese client being vastly different (This could also be the case fo GArena as well), this means that the encryption method they use locally is different to those used on the global client. This is a significant point that I think should be made, since it was only AFTER the source was stolen that these things began to happen, and since then, actions have only escalated.
Otherwise, great video. A note I'd like to add: Please lower the glow effect of white elements on dark background. I thought my eyes were having issues at 13:02.
One of the first league of legends hacks I remember was an urgot that used cheat engine to put more points in his masteries/runes so that he didn't have any flash or smite cool downs.
Very fun to look that up
Not sure if Lobby crashers are bad when the matchmaking is rigged in order to make you play more just so you are more likely to spend money.
All that while the game is advertised as a "competitive team moba"
Internal Driver hook can easily bypass vanguard AC
Online gaming is so plagued right now. I remember cheaters being a problem for every game as long as I've played games, but currently the amount of people who hack has grown soooooo much more. I believe it simply comes to 3 core factors:
1) Many popular games actually have been developed quite some time ago and with lack of constant technical upgrades they just won't be able to protect it's players from new hacks
2) People who design and develop hacks are learning and adopting to existing systems that are supposed to prevent hacking + we have AI now that also powers the hacks (fairly enough this can also be used against hacks too)
3) Online games are getting a little bit out of hand in terms of accessibility and every game tries to be mechanically WAAAY too advanced for average gamer, so the last resort for many of them is just to purchase / download hacks.
PERSONAL SIDE NOTE:
Remember when we had so many click and point abilities? Remember stunning/snaring GP with point and click and NOT being mad about the fact he has Orange to cleanse the CC, because it was NOT hard to land CC at first place. Now you have to try hard to land abilities and in case of mistake from GP side - he can always cleanse that mistake. Do you feel the same as you did when we had those simple abilities? And this is just one example of how frustrating game design leads towards a popularization of hacks in games.
Bro you put so much effort into these vids hope you find the success that matches the effort of yours
That is so well edited, that dropped out of nowhere.
love these longer videos man keep up the good work
love ur style of content man keep it up!
Imagine being a company making billions of $ every year and your source code for your holy grail of a game gets leaked due to your inability to train your employees 😂😂 joke of a company
Human stupidity is unavoidable despite money. Look at Elon Musk for example
League had a ddos issue for 3 years unsolved. Uninstalled. Never touching anything the lazy company does or makes again.
When vanguard comes to league my 13 years of playing league will come to and end.
I literally never encountered a hacker in 10+ years of playing league. Conpared to other games, where certain maps are literally unplayable because of them, it's amazing how little cheating there is.
Part of why pro matches are usually not on LAN is because RIOT will have 24-7 security on the server. 24-7 security is expensive. In Korea they play right next to the servers. Normally, this means they don’t need lan.
It's kinda embarrassing that LCK doesn't use a locally hosted game server.
Now I have to wonder how many random "attempting to reconnect" screens could have been drop hacking over the years.. would make sense of that happening with seemingly no reason or visible connection difficulty, at really specific moments in a match.
Ryscu, THANK YOU for speaking about these issues. Its for reasons like these (and more) that I uninstalled league over a year ago. The best way I could protest was by opening many official tickets and then simply not playing or giving Riot any of my money. I dream that one day League's ranked integrity is honorable and held in high esteem. However, i've got much more awesome stuff to do then rot away giving my soul and life energy to these vampires, and you don't hear me complaining about the SUNSHINE and fresh air outside. 🌞🌞🌞🐕🐕😃🌴🌻🌻🌻
About the sion ult exploit, I used before and it was a exploit that took riot 6 years to fix.
But the exploit has been fixed in patch 12.14
I was in a game years ago, and someone on my team said, nice IP address to me and posted my IP address. It wasn't exactly my address but it was very close. It freaked me out.
Simple solution, make dodging a part of the game. Some of us only have time to play 2 games a day at most. Give me one or two free dodges a day. It could also vary depending on elo or how much you play.
Like high elo where matches take forever to find don't get a dodge. But if you play more than 6 games a day you get a bonus dodge.
Also T swift is for men too
League hacks like valorant hacks are just used more subtly than the blatant ones of other games, and thats the only reason people hard cope that riot has less hackers.
Probably two years ago or so I got a scion in my game who legitimately could keep ulting constantly as well as change the direction of his old middle. We were in the jungle one time and he literally did a 180 with his old and an area that’s about a fourth wide as a lane.
That was a reproducible but bannable bug/exploit. Plenty normal players got banned for that one. Easier with scripts of course.
They haven't fixed the fact that blocking someone doesn't work. And it hasn't worked for YEARS! I don't have faith that they'll fix these vulnerabilities.
I had a friend who used to drop hack back in late 2014 - early 2015, he was ass at the game but thanks to it he got to high plat
And I remember getting drop hacked a few times during that time aswell, it sucked so much cus most of the time it happened when I was on my promos too..
If every IT expert I see says "Vanguard is a huge security risk, don't download it", I'm going to follow their advise. All it takes is one tiny security breach and suddenly the entire playerbase's systems are compromised. All for a game ... nope.
13:18 - it's not always due to lack of training. The company I work for has yearly training on these topics - people still fall for it.
It's insane also on social media, youtube, insta, twitter, etc. I looked up about the hacks and now algorithm actually recommends me channels with people casually uploading full gameplay with cheats on where you can buy it. And reports apparently don't work as there is no even a category for like "selling cheats for games" or similar.
League wasn't limited by the tech at the time. It was way outdated when it launched
Keep up this type of content. It's nicely edited and easy to digest!
2:20 that is crazy. I already had suspicions people where doing it on purpose. But at the click of a button o.0
Very comprehensive video. Good job
11:51 a game not being "online-only" or cloud or live-service as western companies calls it, spells a chance for private servers.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MAN? WE MISSED YOU! NEW PATCH NOTES DROPPED
3:00 Interesting little info here.
This is also the reason, why you get to see (animated) pictures of your champs no 3D Models. because the Client don't have access to them.
I cant stop laughing at the added funny bits😂 we missed you Ruscu!!
Riot seems too focused on growing and new IPs and the Chinese market that they are forgetting their core (League of Legends players).
We need League 2.0 bad, and I think Riot has a great answer in wild rift.
Wildrift feels like lol 2.0 in a good way but needs to be scaled up to match PC experience but I'm not sure if Riot can meet this large of a move.
So many pain points in the current lol game and most of them could be fixed with a new coded lol 2.0 but seeing how the client updates worked out I know it will never happen.
The only hope I have for league in the future is wild rift, once it gets ported to console maybe we could see a pc port as well with mouse and keyboard support.
Well since you made evident you know absolutly nothing of coding let me explain this to you:
a theoric LoL 2.0 or LoL2 would require the team to literaly buoild the entire game from the ground up once again with a new engine all while still updating old version and making the new content taking into account BOTH of those games. That would take years of work, even without taking into account the fact that they would have to code new champs items and all for both games at the same time.
Overwatch and Overwatch 2 are an example of what they had to do to remake Overwatch in a new engine: stop working compleatly for a long period of time in the old game to make the new one. If Riot did the same the game would just die for not having new content for months or years.
You bring wild rift as an example, but we do not know if they could reuse the code for a PC version
@@47slogra what did I say that was wrong? I stated that Wildrift could be used as the new engine going forward.
We all know it would be a long project that would take some time to finish.
Wildrift is a different engine that was built up from the ground, devs in wildrift can do som really cool stuff map/ item wise that pc league cant because of the limitations of the current engine.
They could 100% reuse the code from wildrift on PC its built in Unity so translates well. The only thing that would need attention would be the models, since wildrift has lower res models for mobile.
I'm not saying port WR to pc but to use the engine they made for it going forward for league 2.0.
Just doesn't make sense to keep using more resources outside of it.
@@47slograidi0t they already have wildrift. they just stingy and lazy to rewrite the codes for PC LoL and instead put all resources in skin making. vanguard won't even stop scripters and botters because they already bypassed that even in Valorant. Vanguard is just a parasite application at this point.
@@47slogra you sound like a redditor lmao. "it would take time, the game would just die because no content" as opposed to them releasing huge patches every 2 weeks, where they adjust a given number for a given champ by 1, doing so for like 10 champs out of 200? or them releasing new skins? there is barely any content in the game anyway, aside for the new champs, which most people would be happier if they stopped releasing abomination after abomination anyway. all in all, i doubt we'll see a decrease in "content realeased" that would hinder the game in any way, it could actually help the game a bit even. they aren't doing it, because there's no incentive for them to do so, not like the game not being utter dogshit, barely chugging on and being a playground for all sorts of messes and hackers, would increase the money the game makes monthly, it would probably improve the game's longevity, but big wigs don't care about long term gains, just short term ones, so when the game is at death's door, is when we'll start hearing about "lol 2", like blizzard did with ow
The Problem with vanguard is something else tho. Vanguard has EXTENSIVE kernel level access to the PC, and it runs ALL the time, from the moment you boot. It collects and sends encrypted data. Riot is also 100% owned by Chinese Tencent. PC Security Channel has an interesting video about this. So it's not just all tinfoil hat theories.
Wow this is insane. First apex and now league. 2024 has been quite eventful for the esports scene. Wonder what's the next esports game to be cancelled off.
Bro my room went dark so i hit my tiny toe and all that for a RAID SHADOW LEGENDS AD....
So basically what I'm hearing is that the source code sale is why we're getting Vanguard and why I'm quitting league, already have in fact.
Frankly, a lot of UI hacks reveal things that really ought to just be part of the standard UI. Tower range? Auto range? Hell, ward timers are a feature now!
As a rule, if the "cheat" is a way of not having to memorize something, it should just be something the game tells you.
...holy shit lmao, why do they think Vanguard will stop DDOS
Efi and Dma render kernel level anti cheat useless. Its legit just a rootkit now
Rootkit waiting to be exploited
Everyone was excited for vanguard to come out but it just started bricking PCs of many people and if it is not fixed soon it will probably get deleted.
13:28 Dealing with cheaters is just playing a game of whack-a-mole. Fix a bug, another one pops up. Fix a security breach, another one is found. Fix a cheat, another one is made. It's a never-ending cycle. Players only see that the outcome hasn't changed: people still cheat. They don't see all the changes that were made to make it harder for people to cheat and all the cheats that were made worthless.
Your videos seem to keep increasing in quality, keep it up!
Also do you mind me asking, where you learned your video editing skills? Im trying to imprve, but in the pile of clickbait and moneygrabs i can't really seem to find any good help.
Anyways, have a good day :)
Try editing anything and posting it and you will se ehwere you are at.
What was that bass in the beginning ma man. Blew ma ears off
I haven't played league in a while anyway, but Vanguard absolutely locks me out from playing ever again. There are problems with Kernel level anti cheat that I subscribe to, however the main issue is I am a very techy person who has changed settings in my bios to enable things such as hardware virtualization and other such things for work and for fun and testing, which riot vanguard doesn't like and won't allow me to launch their games.
that's why we can still play league here in the ph..
Someone hacked my account and deleted all my friends in my list and I lost all the friends I made over the years I feel like I lost a part of me if I'm being honest, I tried to get help but with no results, it ruined the game for me for ever
I use a custom name revealer that will bypass vanguard. I am not going to get in a match with someone running it. I am a dodge enjoyer.