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- Anthroposophy may be seen as a more utilitarian Theosophical offshoot.
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#anthroposophy #waldorf
I did a course on his early education system- I loved how he said how important it is to have clean windows for children to have a clear view of the world, undistorted. And the emphasis on following the seasons and the celebrations contained within 💯🥧🌲🌼✍️🌻🎼
Yeah that whole weekly/monthly scrubbing the windows clean is par for the course. Saw it growing up around ethnic Germans in Texas.
Those cute fun loving teenage girls grow up to be stern, hair on fire schmutz hunting hausfraus. Lol.
I attended a Waldorf school in the 70s. I really liked the emphasis on music in education. They started us out on them wooden recorder in first grade and by 4th grade we were playing guitar. Anyone who gets a waldorf primary education can play a dozen instruments.
Aside from his occult interests, Steiner's biggest inspiration was in the life and works of Goethe (who is definitely worth learning about).
Right.
Incisor bones for everybodeeee! Literally.
Goethe (and Schopenhauer) leads all the way up to Freud.
Goethe was an occultist too.
Agree with you 1000%.
It’s funny, I had neighbors that went to a Waldorf School & I used to think it was bizarre b/c they weren’t allowed to watch tv during the week, but now, as an adult, I’m ALL FOR IT. No cell phones or tablets during the week! Hell yeah!
I really got a different take on diet pertaining to root vegetables by hearing his lectures on that topic.
I never knew that potatoes where not a true root, but where overgrown tubers, till I heard Steiner.
In fact, his take on the mental and intellectual effects of consuming tubers versus real roots was a pretty precise take that we never hear of ever.
Eating potatoes produces superficial thinkers, versus consumers of beetroot, parsnip, ginger, tumeric, carrots produce deeper and more prudent thinkers.
What other science or philosophical system gives this kind of information?
Anthroposophy is incredibly vast and awesome!
Steiner has so much knowledge. And only 1/3rd of his work has been translated into english.
I’m completely grateful to this individual who has saved my life. I want to thank him every day
I went to Highland Hall, a Waldorf school in Los Angeles back in the 70s. I loved it and it was a huge influence on my life.
Today I live about half a mile from an Anthroposophist town called Halcyon near the Pismo Beach area in California.
Halcyon is home to the Temple of the People, an Anthroposophist church built around the turn off the 20th century.
Anthroposophy is still alive and thriving today.
For anyone raised with a Christian background who wouldn't take, on faith alone, what was preached You will find through Steiners work, if you dig deeply, a "knowing" that can not be undone. Beware if you haven't quite finished making "mistakes" unconsciously in life when you get to Anthoposophy your words and choices will wheigh heavily and consciously there after.
I know it's been a few days, but I'm really loving how your background set is coming together. The scrolls fit really well with the plants, and even the saber😀
We send our daughter to a Waldorf school in NY (staying far away from any public education system here) The entire program is outdoors all year. (they don’t require masks) They take walks through the woods and have the kids collect eggs from the chicken coops to boil for lunch.
Yep, we send our daughter to Waldorf. It’s been the perfect place for her, especially after the c’vid madness. Wholesome tactile learning and play, emphasis on outdoors and imagination. I’m jealous of her education!
Really, I witnessed teachers constantly yelling at children to pull their masks up. I also witnessed constant your kids being indoctrinated in the most mainstream ways. Nothing of Christianity. Nothing.. more celebrating paganism or current topics like transgenderism and how it is already fact despite any opposition to the idea. If you want your child to pull away from God.. send them to Waldorf. It’s been compromised.
The algo has been recommending Steiner to me recently.
Check out the Dark Journalist channel
Steiner was a pioneer of special needs education at a time when the concept didn’t really exist.
Steiner was completely ahead of his time on most topics.
I’m convinced he’s still hundreds of years ahead. The science of Spirit is a totally radical idea that still is considered blasphemy by most academics and religious people today
I attended a Rudolph Steiner school for three years in Sydney back in the late seventies.Twenty or so students for an entire grade.Outdoor activities were a core part of the school day with the entire afternoon of Friday being dedicated to that.The whole no classroom thing right before the weekend was great. Not really sure if it helped me academically as I wasn't the most studious.
In germany we call these schools "Baumschule"
I attended a Waldorf school in they 70s also. Best part of my education by far. I wish I could have spent all 12 years there but unfortunately I only stayed in till 4th grade. It was still a huge influence on my life.
There is plenty of classroom curriculum, they just include agriculture and music alongside the 3R's.
Which one? My kid is enrolled in a steiner school in Sydney.
@@jake______ Glenaeon in Middle Cove.
I want to know where Styx is getting his ideas about Waldorf education. It’s positively steeped in spiritualism.
Or Steiner’s biodynamic farming method, which isn’t simply organic farming at all, it’s essentially homeopathic agriculture with a hefty dose of the occult thrown in.
Styx is a spiritualist. Also "The Occult #322"
Where did you find your ideas? How much of Steiner’s work have you read and practiced, for how long?
Precisely. I'm pulling my son out of the online Waldorf program he's in. We just ran into the brick wall of the non-scientific science. No correct terms given, no standard aparatus for the experiments. My husband isn't so convinced its a problem. Steiner was a legend in his own mind. His Christianity isn't Christian at all. What are children to learn from watching something burn to ash with no context or purpose? Naked eye astronomy is next, but Steiner can stuff it all the way up, we have a telescope and a star map. Isn't gas-lighting wonderful? I hope they keep losing teachers and the whole thing just sputters out. Back to reality.
@@ablindgibsongirl seethe
Part of the reason for Theosophical sectarianism is you had multiple major teachers, not just Blavatsky and Besant. Sure they were all spiritualist socialists, but they also all had their own slant on the schtick, especially post Blavatsky. Alice Bailey comes firmly to mind.
Really digging the new setup styx. You and and the cats look even more comfortable in this setting.
I just got into Steiner here on RUclips, it's some interesting stuff. I love the Ahriman vs Jesus vs Lucifer lectures they're very cool.
Thanks, Styx! Very timely for me! I’m digging into Steiner now, but his work is voluminous!
He made interesting architecture. It can be my bias by being myself an architect but somehow I am more attracted to his eerie buildings.
Just bought "The Fourth Dimension" ~Sacred Geometry,Alchemy, and Mathematics at the Rudolf Steiner book store on W.15th St. in Manhattan... "Ahrimanic Deception". Great audio of Steiner's work here on youtube. 👁👁👁
Theosophy clung to the more Eastern path, while Steiner moved on to the Christian path. Thus the fairly amiable bow out he did from Theosophy. Freedom of the Spirit of the individual and that can be any race is the basis of the clairvoyant teachings. By the way woke has invaded US Waldorf Schools.
I went to Waldorf school (without knowing)! Loved my days at this school, developed curiosity, critical thinking, creativity, love for nature, how to relate to world at large, participate in society in a more meaningful way.
At 14 had to change school to Catholic girl school 180 difference, it was harsh to say the least .. now full cycle - here discovering the origins of it and teachings of this great teacher.
Would send my kids to Waldorf school 1000%
Love & peace ✌🏻
Yeah there's something very comforting about celebrating St swithins day compared to watching a tik tok piece
Dark Journalist channel does amazing research on Steiner
Awsome! Steiner,my favorite genius!
Steiner said his Philosophy Of Freedom would outlast his Anthroposophy.
I like Steiner, he was pro the germanic people. Praised blonds. Very pro intelligence. Must have been an intense guy.
Steiner lectured for a more particular reason. It's too complicated to explain thoroughly here but: he considered speaking to be the mean between thinking and writing (and print). Writing/print is thought set in stone, and comes about with the help of Ahriman (not necessarily a bad thing); while thinking is not balanced-out by any kind of real action - it stays with the person thinking it; this is Luciferic (not necessarily a bad thing). In speaking, the thought becomes a real-world deed and is shared, but isn't fixed; this is Christian - the balancing power.
Steiner's lectures were mostly transcribed by professional stenographers, with a small number of exceptions (e.g. the private esoteric lessons/classes he held). After years of the lectures being printed for private use, he reluctantly agreed to their dissemination in book form, recognizing that it was unavoidable. The complete works in German (Gesamtausgabe (or G.A.)) totals, so far, about 354 volumes. About 45 of those are written works rather than lectures. English translations (and there remain untranslated lectures, as you said) are published by Steiner Books in the U.S.A. and Rudolf Steiner Press in the U.K., as well as smaller presses like Wynstones (U.K.) and Mercury (U.S.A.). Steiner Books began a uniform edition of the Complete Works many years ago, but it'll be a long time before that's finished. It's bewildering for people who want to take an interest in anthroposophy (and sometimes for those who already know it!).
The Anthroposophical Society is responsible for all this. It's headquarters is a building called the Goetheanum, in Dornach, Switzerland (near Basel). This is the second Goetheanum, the first having been burnt to the ground by an arsonist on New Year's eve 1922 (and on into New Year's day). The first was an astounding work of art, designed by Steiner, carved out of wood, and took many years to build. The second (current) Goetheanum was made out of concrete (partly as an up-yours) and again designed by Steiner in an original and beautiful style. He died before it was finished.
The Waldorf schools were initiated by a man named Emil Molt, who was the owner of a cigarette factory in Waldorf-Astoria and was a student of anthroposophy. He wanted to build a school for the children of his workers, and asked Steiner if he would provide a curriculum. Steiner was glad to and spent an enormous amount of time and effort helping them get established over the years. The 'nature-orientated' style of the schools now is more of a modern thing. Many people feel that much has been lost of Steiner's original advice and guidance, and that the schools have succumbed to New Age influences. Rudolf Steiner was himself anything but 'woolly' and 'airy-fairy'. He also stressed how important it was that the schools be, and remain, independent of the state, and funded primarily only by the parents of the children. This was important if the curriculum was to remain free from outside influence, including political interests. Unfortunately there are few schools now that are not at least partly funded by the state. One school in England was forced to close by the government recently, for trumped up reasons.
I think 'practical' is a better word for Steiner's approach than 'utilitarian'.
There are mild divisions in the anthroposophical society/movement, differences of opinion, fallings out, etc.. But that's just human, isn't it?
@BrightForest True story.
Great comment 👍
@@bigboss-qv7pe Thank you 🙏
@@Michael-ns1ey could you tell me what do you think about Franz Bardon? You seem knowledgeable, I started reading his book and noticed that there are people on the internet who love him and hate him.
@@bigboss-qv7pe I'd never heard of him till you mentioned him, so I'm afraid I can't help you - sorry!
Eurythmy was maybe a little too far out for me though
Steiner WAS very practical and referred to his philosophy as Spiritual Science, emphasizing the importance of using a scientific way of thinking AND observation to solve real challenges in the world and thus, in human souls. We true Anthroposophists do this daily, always observing, always experimenting with results.
Biodynamics in agriculture is an example of how one can use occult (hidden) knowledge to bring about healthier results to both the products of agriculture and its consequences to the earth. The proof is in the results! Compare even a regular organic vineyard to a biodynamic. Compare them in times of drought.
This is the proof that we are still like primitives, despite our insistence on our sophistication, when it comes to science. It’s technology where we have accelerated. And sadly, that acceleration has outpaced our moral development. This is dangerous. Luckily, I think, we are pushing back against some of the profoundly immoral (meaning anti-human) ideas being coldly advanced by Ahrimanic forces working in weak souls.
As for the “racist” accusation: it’s just a meme. What is true and what is good will always be attacked. You see today how the race card is used to manipulate the weakest minds. Anthroposophy faces the same raging demonic forces. If you understand that humans discard a physical body when the soul departs, go back into the cosmos to do some work, and then return in a different body/circumstance, including race, you realize that the differences that have developed among different races is fact rather than anything to feel inferior or superior about. What we must learn to do is to be neither deflated nor inflated by ANY of our social and cultural statuses and just ask : what is MINE to do and become in THIS life? Why did I choose this life and circumstance and body? How will I use it for this Grand and Glorious Experiment called Humanity and Free Will?
I think Anthroposophy is worse and more kookish than Theosophy if you actually look into it. Steiner was interesting, to be sure, but he mixed the honey with *a lot* of frankly weird stuff. Waldorf schooling being one of them. (But OK, if you compare *anything* with US public schools, maybe Styx has a point here!)
I went to a Waldorf school when I was very young and it was definitely strange. From what I remember of it. There was lots of praying to God. Much in the christian sense but not anything about Christ (from what I remember). There was also lots of rituals more in a pagan sense. Like dancing around the May pole and other ceremonies involving candles. The teacher would give us dolls made of yarn that had no faces or limbs that we were to use our imaginations to play with and pretend. There was a day long ceremony whenever it was someone's birthday. It is interesting to look back on as I was only pre school age.
@@onpatrolforthejuice sounds downright horrible. Thanks for sharing!
@@deejaye2647 lol yeah it wasn't great. I think stuff like that can only work if the kid has never had it another way. I already new what TV was so there was no way I was gonna play with rope and wood blocks.
When I was a young man in the 1990s I was interested in Rudolph Steiner. I considered writing a novel whose protagonist would be based on Rudolph Steiner. The novel would be modeled on the works of Herman Hesse. I still might write such a novel.
During that time a Waldorf school opened in my neighborhood. It was two blocks away from my apartment.
One day when class was not in session I stopped by without an appointment and met the principal and some of the teachers.
I could have been a teacher at that school but I chose a different path in my working life.
This video by Styx brought back interesting memories and made me wonder about a path that was open to me which I did not choose.
Styx, it would be great to get a video on your more recent thoughts on Bitcoin, in order to celebrate its new all time high!
why the anthro poh sophie lol? it's anthro pah sa fee
@@petercrenfield that does sound better
I went to a Waldorf school called Rudolph Steiner for preschool in MI
Ah, yes, the Waldorf school where enlightened hippie moms can send their boys to be demasculated by the same teacher for 9 years. In the US it's a condescending henhouse.
Yes!!! I had enrolled my kids in a Waldorf school....that didn't last long...now I'm playing make up ..
They don't focus on reading until 2nd grade... WTH? Not a good school...
Also, forest Fridays were focused on looking for knomes n fairies.... WTH?
Don’t forget how they treat the Fathers. Yes I was one
I’m glad someone else in this comment thread mentioned this. There are some excellent aspects to their curriculum-the amount of outdoor time, for example, or the lack of homework in the early grades-but it’s a very rigid pedagogical approach overall and cultivates some weird, anti-scientific thinking.
When we were touring schools for kindergarten for our oldest, we practically ran out of the Montessori school we visited when the guide explained that children _shouldn’t_ be taught or encouraged to read independently until the child is 7, “the year when they lose their first tooth,” because it’s considered inappropriate to Waldorf’s developmental model, which is based in spirituality. I knew we’d made the right decision the following year when there was a measles outbreak in the school because there are so many hippy-dippy anti-vax parents who send their kids. I mean _real_ anti-vaxxers, not people who’re just skeptical of the covid vaccine.
Though I must add this is the clear trend in today’s Amerika.
@@anniehaas1134 I’m glad you and your family had a great experience. The principals and methods of Waldorf Curriculum is very good and of course holistic. In Eugene Oregon where we flirted with a Waldorf “based” alt school it was quite unfriendly towards masculinity/myself. There was a bit of a female cabal who had issues with “toxic masculinity”. I guess therm is redundant in the minds of some.
I am embarrassed for you - why didn't you even bother to look up how to say the word Anthroposophy?
we've gone over this several times in the past.
here it is phonetically - An throw poss so fee
or Anthroposophia which means human wisdom.
Again, if you want a brief on his cosmology, an overall of the philosophy and education, we can talk, but at least try.
Please, try, this is making you look so foolish.
Also, you are saying Blavatsky incorrectly too.
Besant was also a charlatan.
I agree.
Its annoying.
I use to live in camphill village trust. Camphill use Steiner's Anthrosophy.
Ahem, they are *extremely* sectarian. They have front groups, though.
Medium can be real anyone who study's occultism should understand there there beyond most comprehension. Even tho theosophy had alot to do with spiritualism. Theosophy was against mediumship not for it it just stated it can be real which it can but most time that's clear not the case. H p b did much good things in the world of the occult that's for sure.
"Steiner believed that at the age of 15 he had gained a complete understanding of the concept of time, which he considered to be the precondition of spiritual clairvoyance. At 21, on the train between his home village and Vienna, Steiner met an herb gatherer, Felix Kogutzki, who spoke about the spiritual world "as one who had his own experience therein". the
Kogutzki conveyed to Steiner a knowledge of nature that was non-academic and spiritual." Magic Mushrooms has that effect on your mind 🤯
A really bad trip on golden teachers sent me down this path. Steiner and Bardon are some quite inter characters!
@@bigboss-qv7pefunny enough you mention that, i just got some golden teachers and was planning on growing them and eating them and turning on some steiner lectures and seeing what will happen.
he truly was clairvoyant, his concepts of the evolution of human consciousness has answered so many of my questions. I believe he is still hundreds of years ahead of his time. Neither mainstream science nor mainstream religion wants to explore the science of spirit. It’s considered blasphemy by both sides, and that is why i am here
Ive studied Anthroposophy, although it has fairly satisfyed my desire to understand reality and i havent really found anything like it in other spiritual teachings, i also find it very burdening to know certain aspects of occult-spiritual reality, and started exploring more deeply also the Eastern point of views. I personally feel the centrality of the Ego to be a very challenging concept and personally i feel like i really need the help of the divine and lean towards eastern spirituality, Im too much weak within my own soul to withstand the trials this earthly incarnation in presenting me with.
How's the transition going, Styx?
Anthroposophy is a Christian version of (Buddhist) Theosophy--Steiner had been the president of the German branch of the theosophical society under Madame Blavatsky, but broke with Annie Besant.
Owen Barfield's extension of Steiner is the best...
Barfield was a great man. I wish more people read him, just as I wish more people would read Steiner.
I only practice vegetarianism during 40 days of lent. The rest of the year I eat meat. It is so disturbing that a Rosicrucian gnostic, general director of Theosophy and Alquimist claims to be a Christian, when all those things he is into are incompatible with every single teaching of Jesus Christ. Ecologism will not save you from hell. And occultism will take you there.
My dude in which sense was 17th century or feudalism a "leftoidism" ?
Could you look into the ties between the United Nations and theosophy. It is a conspiracy theory rabit hole that is very interesting. Also, could you help me figure out if Madame Blavatsky was Lucifarian and globalist? I think there is not just spiritual and philisophical, but also political contrast between Theosophy and Anthroposophy. It is too big to figure it out myself, so if you know anything more, make another video. Thanks.
I rotate between Rudolf & Manly lectures daily & nightcaps
Plants and occultism my kind of guy.🥰
Tell me why I barely noticed your plants !! 🪴
🤗 and you cat ! 🐈 lol...
Anthroposophy was the perfect fork in the road for the Theosophical society. It is everything it lacked and shed the woo-woo (for the most part). Good video styx!
Thank you.
I think Steiner´s success is strange, since he was so "Austria-Hungary".
Long time Waldorf homeschool libertarian Mama here… I wrote a whole long response but it got deleted sigh….
Steiner is cool.
i love you!
Is this the same Rudolph Steiner that came up with the concept of counterspace?
Wonder what are those 3 666 things on the right of you?
It’s cringy how you mispronounce anthroposophy.
Vegetarianism, huh?
Maybe some WEF as well huh?? Lol
The thought of that 10.2 cleverly obfuscated just off camera pales in comparison to the breadth of historical occulted presentations that you deliver.....
Not that the 10.2 would be anything but pale given that you’re rather pasty in what you present to the camera anyways....
Heil Spoon-clankery!!!
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His works.
y do u say it that way... to get more comments? Lol...