If you were strongly on the side of “Allen has pretty much locked it up”, then the Week 15 games haven’t changed anything. If you were on the fence, then the Week 15 games may have swung you to Lamar. I think it’s Allen’s to lose and it would take a collapse the final two weeks. If the Bills finish 14-3, it has to go to Allen.
@ yah you’re right , that had better players lmao and the ravens haven’t had a top 5 offensive line since 2019 with Lamar , and Henry just got there , zay just got there , Bateman had been hurt his whole career , tf are you talking about 😂 I wish Lamar had digs in year 3
@ bro are you not getting the point???? Clearly you aren’t. If you took Lamar off of THIS TEAM they’d still be a wild card team. No ones talking about 2019.😂
NFL MVPs (AKA Best Quarterbacks) Through Week 15: 1. Lamar Jackson 2. Josh Allen 3. Joe Burrow 4. Jared Goff 5. Sam Darnold 6. Baker Mayfield 7. Jordan Love
Who when? Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders better than the other MVP candidates he played against. This season, I give you saquon beat Lamar. However Lamar Jackson made Josh Allen look like dogfood in the head to head.
No doubt. Lamar’s stats are slightly better, but Josh Allen has a new OC and entirely new WRs besides Shakir. This was supposed to be a step back year, and are about to get the 2 seed. He has signature wins against the Chiefs and Lions and played phenomenally. The Ravens best win was against the Bills and Lamar hardly contributed. Josh Allen gets sh*t for 1 yd TD runs but half of Lamar’s TD passes have been to wide open receivers. Just this past weekend he threw an amazing TD to Bateman but the Likely and Andrews TDs they were uncovered.
If you like josh Allen there's no need to lie about Lamar Jackson. More valuable to their team? Better record vs stiffer competition. You just like Josh Allen youre a fan great. Be a fan. Lamar Jackson is better.
Lamar stats are slightly better, yes I agree. But 1. Go look how Matt times Josh Allen sat out the 4th quarter because bills were up already. 2. Before the season EVERYONE said this year the bills were clipped “Josh has the worst supporting cast in his career” “jets and Miami are gonna own the afc East”. You take Josh Allen off Buffalo the team is 8-7 at best rn
@ycsmoney huh? Lamar Jackson has sat out of fourth quarters his whole career. Miami and New York beat themselves. New York is terrible and Miami is only a real team part of the time. Lamar Jackson last season beat the other MVP candidates in head to head to games. That's why he won. This season Josh Allen doesn't look better in head to head with good players. Drake May had a better looking game outside of his receiver dropping the pass in his hands on the goal line. You take Josh Allen off of the bills and they still only have five games against winning teams. Josh Allen lost three of those. They lose two more. You take Lamar Jackson off the ravens and they still have like ten games vs winning teams. Probably lose all ten. Henry can't get loose without a defensive pause looking at Lamar. Example, look at saquon Barkley whenever Hurts went out. 100 yards in the first quarter with Hurts. Like fifty the rest of the way with Pickett and they were really trying. Bad line in Baltimore. As mobile as Josh Allen is he'd find it challenging. Without Lamar Jackson they do probably beat the browns because they'd be totally locked on the team that's on their level.
@ycsmoney Ravens fans in 2023: there’s more to the QB position than stats. Lamar deserves the MVP. Ravens fans in 2024: Lamar leads the league in QBR, QB rating, TDs, etc. Lamar deserves the MVP.
@awill3454 2023 was the head to head vs MVP candidates and overall dominance. Allen is getting paced or out paced in games vs anyone kinda good. Josh Allen wasn't second or third in votes. He had a few bad games last season. Lamar Jackson got beat once by the weather in a rain game with 9 drops, and by the defensive player of the year having a day. And Lamar was still good. Where as josh Allen ran the stats up on weak teams where Lamar Jackson was sitting out fourth quarters. Last year Josh Allen wasn't close. This season, Lamar Jackson has the head to head vs Josh Allen. No klunker games. Lamar Jackson unfortunately lost the head to head vs mahomes and saquon Barkley. I think he's the best. He has the head to head vs Josh Allen. However because Josh Allen has the head to head vs Goff and mahomes they probably give him the trophy. Two wins against winning teams. Not impressed. I'm fine that people want Josh Allen to get the trophy. He's had a good season. We don't like folks diminishing who Lamar Jackson is and what he's done. He's carried the offense on his back. Pretty much whenever he starts he wins. Whenever he doesn't the team is toast. Since he's been starting his winning percentage is second to Patrick mahomes. Patrick mahomes inherited a playoff team with hall of fame talent everywhere. Lamar Jackson got thrown to a losing team he carried to the playoffs. His best weapons have gone on to be wr 4 on other teams or retired. Lamar Jackson is the Ravens. Jalen Hurts is second to Patrick mahomes in wins since he became a starter. Whenever he's out the team don't go. Nobody acts like they can see him making those Nick siruani video game play calls work whenever they really shouldn't. Josh Allen bullies bad teams. He's good. I'm tyrod Taylor fan from Virginia tech so I watched Josh Allen wanting to hate. He was truly a running quarterback to start. Run or launch no in between. Anthony Richardson with better plays. He's better. He's not as good as the glaze him to be. For marketing purposes he's a modern day Phillip Rivers. He may move up to Big Ben. Mahomes is the reverse Brady with the defense doing more later where Brady had defense doing more earlier. Lamar Jackson the marketing equivalent of Peyton Manning. Pretty game excellent regular season hump to get over. Jalen Hurts is like bart star or something. Old timey
I think Goff is the most deserving this season, with Saquon as OPOY. Goff is one of only 2 guys with more than 4000 yards right now. Mahomes in a bad season has more passing yards than Allen does, despite throwing to mostly backups.
@ the mvp is most valuable player. If u look at the bills roster like everyone else was saying at beginning of year how bad that team was and they are 11-3 beat the two best teams in football and it’s because of Josh. U take him off the bills the bills are like 8-7 rn at best.
@@JohnClarkW shoooott idk Carson wentz ain’t the worst backup in the league. U add that with decent receiving core which they have and hof coaching I could see me winning 10. People forget Patrick mahomes (who is a great quarterback I’m not taking that from him) also was thrown into a way better situation than most qbs get. I’m not saying the chiefs win a sb without him but I think u put a decent qb in that situation u could have a sam darnold Vikings type situation easily. To sum up the answer to ur question, I think the chiefs do better without Patrick than the bills would without Josh and I stand on that
Josh Allen all the way!
Allen is a BEAST!
If you were strongly on the side of “Allen has pretty much locked it up”, then the Week 15 games haven’t changed anything. If you were on the fence, then the Week 15 games may have swung you to Lamar.
I think it’s Allen’s to lose and it would take a collapse the final two weeks. If the Bills finish 14-3, it has to go to Allen.
The ravens are nothing without Lamar , we all know this
False.
@ not false , didn’t they have 4 losing seasons before he came ?
@ they also didn’t have Mark Andrews, the HOFer Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers, Rashod Bateman, and Isaiah Likely. With a top 5 o-line.
@ yah you’re right , that had better players lmao and the ravens haven’t had a top 5 offensive line since 2019 with Lamar , and Henry just got there , zay just got there , Bateman had been hurt his whole career , tf are you talking about 😂 I wish Lamar had digs in year 3
@ bro are you not getting the point???? Clearly you aren’t. If you took Lamar off of THIS TEAM they’d still be a wild card team. No ones talking about 2019.😂
It’s a narrative and wins award first, so Allen has the advantage. Lamar has had a better season by almost every other metric though
Josh Allen has beaten the 2 best teams in the league, which basically no one has done all season. So he should deserve it
The Ravens have beaten significantly more teams with winning records than Buffalo has this year.
LOL the Ravens had to score 40 to the beat the Bengals twice this year NO they aren't beating them without Lamar. What a ridiculous take.
Why you didn’t wait until tonight to post this video
Josh Allen and it’s not even close let’s stop acting like it is
I’m being farmed
Are you a bot???
NFL MVPs (AKA Best Quarterbacks) Through Week 15:
1. Lamar Jackson
2. Josh Allen
3. Joe Burrow
4. Jared Goff
5. Sam Darnold
6. Baker Mayfield
7. Jordan Love
Allen followed by Saqoun
I concur!
Now do a video of the years Lamar got the trophy, other players could have gotten the trophy instead
Who when? Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders better than the other MVP candidates he played against. This season, I give you saquon beat Lamar. However Lamar Jackson made Josh Allen look like dogfood in the head to head.
Josh allen easily
No. 17 is on a MISSION!
No doubt. Lamar’s stats are slightly better, but Josh Allen has a new OC and entirely new WRs besides Shakir. This was supposed to be a step back year, and are about to get the 2 seed. He has signature wins against the Chiefs and Lions and played phenomenally. The Ravens best win was against the Bills and Lamar hardly contributed. Josh Allen gets sh*t for 1 yd TD runs but half of Lamar’s TD passes have been to wide open receivers. Just this past weekend he threw an amazing TD to Bateman but the Likely and Andrews TDs they were uncovered.
Give Josh the participation Trophy already and shut up ! 🤣
Lamar don't care, he's lookin for a better MVP 🏆 this year ! 😈
Losing early in the layoffs again this year! Awesome!
@@donr5113 bro said again like they didn’t make it to the championship game 🤡
@@keymold4405 Clowns brag about afc championships...lol and ya didn't even win. good luck w/ that clown.
@@keymold4405 Bro said making it to the afc championship was the goal now u a clown.
@@donr5113 straw manning what I said makes u a clown lil bro
Josh Allen but Lamar catching the LeBron effect
If you like josh Allen there's no need to lie about Lamar Jackson. More valuable to their team? Better record vs stiffer competition. You just like Josh Allen youre a fan great. Be a fan. Lamar Jackson is better.
Lamar stats are slightly better, yes I agree. But 1. Go look how Matt times Josh Allen sat out the 4th quarter because bills were up already. 2. Before the season EVERYONE said this year the bills were clipped “Josh has the worst supporting cast in his career” “jets and Miami are gonna own the afc East”. You take Josh Allen off Buffalo the team is 8-7 at best rn
@ycsmoney huh? Lamar Jackson has sat out of fourth quarters his whole career. Miami and New York beat themselves. New York is terrible and Miami is only a real team part of the time.
Lamar Jackson last season beat the other MVP candidates in head to head to games. That's why he won. This season Josh Allen doesn't look better in head to head with good players. Drake May had a better looking game outside of his receiver dropping the pass in his hands on the goal line.
You take Josh Allen off of the bills and they still only have five games against winning teams. Josh Allen lost three of those. They lose two more.
You take Lamar Jackson off the ravens and they still have like ten games vs winning teams. Probably lose all ten.
Henry can't get loose without a defensive pause looking at Lamar. Example, look at saquon Barkley whenever Hurts went out. 100 yards in the first quarter with Hurts. Like fifty the rest of the way with Pickett and they were really trying. Bad line in Baltimore. As mobile as Josh Allen is he'd find it challenging. Without Lamar Jackson they do probably beat the browns because they'd be totally locked on the team that's on their level.
@ how did Josh Allen lose three? If you think buffalos defense wasn’t the issue u obviously watched a completely different game then me.
@ycsmoney
Ravens fans in 2023: there’s more to the QB position than stats. Lamar deserves the MVP.
Ravens fans in 2024: Lamar leads the league in QBR, QB rating, TDs, etc. Lamar deserves the MVP.
@awill3454 2023 was the head to head vs MVP candidates and overall dominance. Allen is getting paced or out paced in games vs anyone kinda good. Josh Allen wasn't second or third in votes. He had a few bad games last season. Lamar Jackson got beat once by the weather in a rain game with 9 drops, and by the defensive player of the year having a day. And Lamar was still good. Where as josh Allen ran the stats up on weak teams where Lamar Jackson was sitting out fourth quarters. Last year Josh Allen wasn't close.
This season, Lamar Jackson has the head to head vs Josh Allen. No klunker games. Lamar Jackson unfortunately lost the head to head vs mahomes and saquon Barkley. I think he's the best. He has the head to head vs Josh Allen. However because Josh Allen has the head to head vs Goff and mahomes they probably give him the trophy. Two wins against winning teams. Not impressed.
I'm fine that people want Josh Allen to get the trophy. He's had a good season. We don't like folks diminishing who Lamar Jackson is and what he's done. He's carried the offense on his back. Pretty much whenever he starts he wins. Whenever he doesn't the team is toast.
Since he's been starting his winning percentage is second to Patrick mahomes. Patrick mahomes inherited a playoff team with hall of fame talent everywhere. Lamar Jackson got thrown to a losing team he carried to the playoffs. His best weapons have gone on to be wr 4 on other teams or retired. Lamar Jackson is the Ravens.
Jalen Hurts is second to Patrick mahomes in wins since he became a starter. Whenever he's out the team don't go. Nobody acts like they can see him making those Nick siruani video game play calls work whenever they really shouldn't.
Josh Allen bullies bad teams. He's good. I'm tyrod Taylor fan from Virginia tech so I watched Josh Allen wanting to hate. He was truly a running quarterback to start. Run or launch no in between. Anthony Richardson with better plays. He's better. He's not as good as the glaze him to be. For marketing purposes he's a modern day Phillip Rivers. He may move up to Big Ben.
Mahomes is the reverse Brady with the defense doing more later where Brady had defense doing more earlier.
Lamar Jackson the marketing equivalent of Peyton Manning. Pretty game excellent regular season hump to get over.
Jalen Hurts is like bart star or something. Old timey
I think Goff is the most deserving this season, with Saquon as OPOY. Goff is one of only 2 guys with more than 4000 yards right now. Mahomes in a bad season has more passing yards than Allen does, despite throwing to mostly backups.
Go look how many games Josh sat out a good chunk of the 4th quarter this year because the bills were already up big
@@ycsmoney at most that is 4 games, and the MVP voting criteria isn't how many snaps you take off, if so Rodgers should have won last year.
@ the mvp is most valuable player. If u look at the bills roster like everyone else was saying at beginning of year how bad that team was and they are 11-3 beat the two best teams in football and it’s because of Josh. U take him off the bills the bills are like 8-7 rn at best.
@@ycsmoney And what record do you think KC is without Mahomes?
@@JohnClarkW shoooott idk Carson wentz ain’t the worst backup in the league. U add that with decent receiving core which they have and hof coaching I could see me winning 10. People forget Patrick mahomes (who is a great quarterback I’m not taking that from him) also was thrown into a way better situation than most qbs get. I’m not saying the chiefs win a sb without him but I think u put a decent qb in that situation u could have a sam darnold Vikings type situation easily. To sum up the answer to ur question, I think the chiefs do better without Patrick than the bills would without Josh and I stand on that
Patrick Mahomes
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Blows dudes?