Im picking one out right now and man, when you had the power test, it was probably the most exciting tool review I have seen... I was watching that segment like a basketball game haha. Great review as always, cheers mate.
Yea definitely, very informative because I was actually going to buy the M18 but Im glad I checked out your guys review first. I went with the Dewalt over Makita, thinking of the newer electronics, their comfortable grips, and positive stops on the adjustment knob- The knob just looks solid and well designed.
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ruclips.net/user/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
Nice video. I got myself today the Hitachi planer on a special sale offer for just 118 euros. I really hope it will pay off and last long. So far, no Hitachi tool has ever disappointed me. I was about to go for the Dewalt one mostly because it has a brushless motor but it was 70 euros more.
Great results I thought my Mikita might have been a bit behind them all being so old. But its great to see that makita are making fantastic products compared to the more expensive Dewalt and Milwaukee.
Great review Dwayne! Glad I bought into the Makita system. They seem to make consistently good tools. Your dog is going to need a bath after this video! Say hi to Mike.
@@OZToolTalk hi the planer itself is great it feels solid and a good weight and balance to work with I got two Mikita batteries as I need to swap and change if I'm doing a few doors.I got it with a bag as I need as much room as I can get if I'm fitting say, five doors on a landing I know you can get it with a vac type thing but it just seems impractical for what I do. I found that you have to empty the bag before it gets even half full or it clogs up and fires the shavings all over the place.My last planer was a 240 corded dewalt and the bag on that was miles better. But all in all this is the best planer ive worked with shame about the bag
Is it me or is the Bosch the only one in your test that actually has no high pitch noise whatsoever? Kinda curious about that, since the only planer I know that sounds like that is the festool hl ^^
Good review this. Watched it to see what the new DeWalt was like. Like the guy doing the review I use the Bosch. Mainly due to it's extraction left or right. It connects straight to my Bosch GAS vac too. If extraction wasn't important, which it is for me personally in the workshop, I think he made a pretty good case for the Makita.
Wow, great review. I’m on the Milwaukee platform, and love their tools, however, they really fell short with their planer. I can see buying one if their price reflected performance, but we all know there is a huge mismatch in this respect. Got my eye on the Makita and DeWalt.
This is the best video I have seen so far comparing them all. We have Milwaukee products and my husband wants me to buy the Milwaukee planer but from what I have seen they suck. I am working at my log cabin in a remote location I cannot keep running home to recharge the batteries.
Great video guys, encourage you to keep making them. Its great to have an Australian crew doing reviews as a comparison to our American reviewers across the water. Maybe i'm too soft on my tools but i would typically not take my Planer over the 1.6mm ish mark anyways. I quess its good to know they can do more but for general carpentry -buzzing a wall ect, 1.6mm would be plenty imo.
Another good vid mate! I'm very happy with my makita, my only con with it is the blades are lightweight and Nick/snap/crack easily, thats mainly only when I'm straightening walls which isn't that often. Keep the vids coming!
I got the dewalt xr for free otherwise I'd have the Makita. But even that old brushed model Makita is blowing away those brushless models. The new Makita brushless unit is just coming out and it's even better! I'd like to see the new Makita BL vs the Dewalt
Bought Makita 3 days ago and will be using it today. General reviews for Makita are good but in the UK it is very expensive compared to the others but for fine cuts supposed to be better. Thanks for the excellent video and after watching it think I made the right choice. Just a DIY man enjoying my retirement.
[Dwain] I don't think any of them will stand up to repeat drops. they're a precision tool, and not a drill. their blade changes are all very similar. cheers
Squares, chisels, straight edges, hand planes and the like are precision tools. cordless tools are not precision instruments. I have knocked my bosch and the dewey off trestles quite a lot of times. Curious to know how the newer gear runs after a few knocks.
Milwaukee battery protection kicked in to early and that's a good thing to get longer use out of your battery I know with my Makita batteries I have to replace them a lot more frequently. pros and cons to both but at the end of the day your more likely to get more out of a smarter tool with better protection
[Dwain] yeah it always a balance between protecting the tools and batteries, and allowing people to get the job done as fast as possible. The Makita planer is possibly a little too agressive on it's parts. The Milwaukee doesn't have enough go for me .... horses for courses.
I know this video is rather old and thanks for posting. I am about to buy one of these for a project and was just wondering how much pressure do you have to apply to get the planer to remove material? Were you pressing down pretty hard or was the machine doing all the work?
hi Dwagne I already have the Makita here it comes with the dust shoot and the bag is a accessory waiting for the Dewalt to be available in June hope it is good planer
Great review. Incredible the old Makita won in power AND was near the top in runtime at a reasonable price. I was really expecting the Dewalt to beat it in power and runtime after you earlier review.
My dewalt can't arrive quick enough. Watched both your vids on it and I am well impressed. Surprised though that the brushless didn't out do the rest by a long way. Hats off to makita for making their planer stand the test of time! The dog seemed to enjoy the whole thing though!
Brilliant! The makita fits in with my Malkita LXT 18v collection. Saved me heaps of time comparing features and prices. So happy with my Makita 18v planer purchase. $219AU (spot on considering the US to AU exchange rate) from Bunnings was the going price and closest retailer for todays' purchase . Like a hot knife thru soft butter. Thank you!
Great review. It would be really good if you could say something about how these cordless planers compare with an 82mm mains powered unit. I'm trying to decide between the (cheaper more powerful) mains unit vs a cordless unit.
Not that I've heard Benjamin. Metabo released one shortly after being purchased by HiKoki (Hitachi already had one), so that was a bonus for Metabo users. [Dwain]
I was expecting better numbers from the Milwaukee but I wasn't expecting a class leading tool either. Milwaukee just wanted to have a planer on their battery platform I think. The uprising performer is the Hitachi. Hitachi isn't a bad brand but its never though about either. I blame it on bad marketing.
All planers are prone to clogging to some degree. The primary way it happens for me is planing very quickly in soft Woods, especially in treated pine. I think the best strategy is to learn to notice when it begins to clog, so that you can clear it just by running it clear of timber. Good luck!
Why would you need to routinely plane 2mm in a single pass? That's not smart and will dramatically shorten the tool life. Just make 4 passes at 0.5mm and your good.
@@dontblameme6328 can’t confirm this to be true. When I compare my dad’s brushed Makita drills with my brushless drills the run time is definitely longer.
Great review lads. I use both Milwaukee and Dewalt platform. I bought the Milwaukee planer, then 1 month later the Dewalt Planer came out. Very disappointed. Wish I had known the Dewalt Brushless was coming out.
+Frazer Ross cheers mate. The M18 is a very good unit at the lower cut depths at least. Subscribe with us and you'll always know what's coming. Like our facebook page to get ALL the news - facebook.com/OZToolTalk/
I had the Hitachi cordless at work. Not that impressed to be honest as you weren't too. - No option for vacuum attachment even if you wanted to. Not a popular option for planing in the industry unless at a customer's house or in a workshop, but on site very unlikely, but would like the option nonetheless - The power just didn't feel there at all as soon as you were above anything over 1mm. Of course it is easy to overcome this with repeated 0.5mm passes but that just doesn't inspire you with confidence when it's rated at 2mm but stutters/struggles above 1mm. If you are already on the platform like the work paid for tools were with Hitachi, then it's a no brainer having sunk $400/£350 here worth on 5amp batteries. However if it's your own personal wallet sink the money into a mains powered planer if your battery platform isn't Makita or Dewalt. That's the conclusion I took from this well made video comparison anyway. Thanks for going through all the work to get the manufacturers barring Bosch to send you these to put against each other, much appreciated. I'm Makita 18v invested with my own dollar, so when the time comes to replace the Makita 240v 1923 I will be getting the DKP180Z. Thumbs up Dwain, this vid deserves a hell of a lot more views for the effort and time that appears to be put in. I mean just the barns worth of sawdust you put in the yard and worktop says it all!
[Dwain] haha thanks Ryan. Yeah it was a bit of work, and this is one of the comparisons I felt was able to really clearly differentiate the different brands from each other. Very satisfying. I can't imagine Makita not putting out a brushless planer in the next couple of years. And yeah, Hitachi was my least favourite to use, despite its long runtime.
Why didn't you test the Bosch at 2.0 mm even though it wasn't rated for this? It looked like and sounded like the Bosch did best at 1.6 mm. Wasn't it possible to set the Bosch at 2.0 mm? Can't believe the Bosch was so much quieter than the high pitched noise from the DeWalt coming right after it.
+Oz Tool Talk It would be nice to get your subjective opinions on the noise levels in these kind of H2H reviews as it can sometimes be hard to judge on recordings.
Robert Rada - Bosch don't currently have a cordless planer with a depth of 2.6mm. You only get 2mm+ depth on their corded planers. As this was a cordless planer test it would've been silly to include a corded Bosch.
good review mate, areas well covered. only thing I'd add is an aspect on ease of basic maint, e.g. blade swapouts, fatique/ergo although i saw that in your table comparison a little. Im picking one up tonight, was always favouring the Makita as I've never had an issue with that brand. Surprised how bad the Milwaukee sucked, I hear fanboys crying BS everywhere. Lol.
Nice review. But I think you should add the model names of all the tools tested in the description below the video so you don't only have the brand names listed. It would be nice if you did this for all your reviews, please.
+ITubeTooInc [Dwain] that's a good point. I have the models in the video 'tags', but I'll add them to the description too. On most reviews they're in the title.
+Oz Tool Talk As long as this video shows up if I search e.g. "Milwaukee M18BP", then it doesn't have to be included in the tile, at least not when you review many brands. And it looks like this is the case. If there's only one model in a video I think you should still include both brand and model it in the title, but it looks like that's also what you already do. I would however prefer, if in the description below the video you wrote: "Models are: Makita DKP180, DeWalt DCP580, Hitachi P18DSL, Milwaukee M18BP, Bosch GHO 18-V Li". Instead of just writing model names without brand names like this: "Models are: DKP180, DCP580, P18DSL, M18BP, GHO 18-V Li" Actually I would prefer each model listed on a new line for readability, like this: The 5 models are: Bosch GHO 18-V Li DeWalt DCP580 Hitachi P18DSL Makita DKP180 Milwaukee M18BP Then it's much easier to find a specific model name if you want to google e.g. the "Milwaukee M18BP" to look up specs and prices. It's hard to remember which model names belongs to which brand if they're not mentioned together. Since I've just googled which model belongs to which brand for all the tested models, you can just copy/paste my example above and edit the description below the video to save a bit of work. I even sorted them alphabetically for you. :-) The first line of your description you could also ad the model names like this: All the major brands are in here: Bosch GHO 18-V Li, DeWalt DCP580, Hitachi P18DSL, Makita DKP180, Milwaukee M18BP. This way everyone can see all model names in the first two lines without clicking "show more". I've often seen people ask for something under RUclips videos, that has already been mentioned in the description when you click show more, simply because they haven't clicked this so they don't see it. Fox example people ask again and again what music is used in many RUclips videos, even when it's already in the description if you had just clicked "show more".
I'm guessing you're from the US. We have different branding over here. The fakes you see on ebay are modelled after the graphics used in the rest of the world.
[Dwain] I would imagine that Festool's unit would have some specific advantages. But I don't think buying Festool straight off the bat is a good move in general, because value is very important to me.
It was like watching a game of Russian roulette with that staple at the end of the piece of wood.. I got quite anxious watching as to which tool would hit it..
wow, I've never noticed that. I suspect it was either a plastic staple, or a trick of the eye. I can't believe I wouldn't have noticed a big metal staple! :/
hi, i am seriously happy with this video, i know how work proveen brands here are figthing.But brushless or brushed, i don't know how to choose, e.g dewalt and makita, very brave planers but which one Will require first maintenance?... thanks!!
[Dwain] If I had to choose, I would pick the Dewalt to last longer because it protects itself better. But I don't think brushes are going to need changing much in a cordless planer, so it's not a big deal at all. Either would be a great pick. If you don't already have an 18V platform, I suggest picking your platform based on the strength of the other tools.
+Oz Tool Talk thanks friend, i had both brands, maybe,as you explain brushed not need hurry up maintenance on cordless planer... i think makita 18 v are quieter and strong, dewalt strong but too loud when it works... could possible a match sound between those brands?.. thanks
[Dwain] I'm sorry, I can't remember which is louder. I think you should choose based on how many batteries you have for each, and how much you're willing to spend. If you don't care about price, I'd go Dewalt.
Informative and thorough review as always Dwain. Don't get me wrong they make get great tools but why do you think Milwaukee has more difficulty with carpentry tools given that they are geared more towards electricians and plumbers?
nice review. really disappointed in Milwaukee as being a very well know 'tool of the trade' brand you'd think that they could of done better with the planner. when people invest into a brand like Milwaukee you'd want high quality and powerful,but i dont think they delivered on the planner. love the rest of their tools. once again great video!
+james ebrahimi i hear you. but every brand has weaknesses. Given their nailers coming out, I thought they were gonna try steal some of the carpentry market....
Could not possibly hate the Milwaukee planer more. No power, dust port clogs really bad, the cut snips a lot at the end, and doesn’t leave a perfect 90 degree cut. Makita and dewalt are far superior
As good as battery tools are today, they cant replace power yet. Also use the right tool for the job. I have the Milwaukee battery buzzer and only use it to buzz archs (@2mm) when doing a fix and works perfectly on MDF and 2x1 batten and whatever else. Everything else i use my makita power buzzer. The Milwaukee buzzer hasn't cut out on me yet but I always let the tool do the work I never push them. Battery is not bad (5ah) but i have 5 so don't really care lol 👍🏻
[Dwain We totally agree on using the right tool for the job. But in many situations, battery tools CAN replace power tools. I can't remember the last time I saw an electric drill (except SDS) on a site. Or an electric impact driver. For people who use planers just for bevels, they could do away with a power planer. For lighter-duty tasks, the M18 planer is such a good tool!
Mine too but I'm in really disappointed with bosch, here in the UK that planer is £30 more than the dewalt brushless I'm a hair thickness from switching to dewalt
Be nice to see these big brands compare with the cheaper Einell planner, WHY you ask? My cheap Erbauer cordless grinder outperrform my Dewalt 18v xr grinder, so I sold the dewalt.lol
[Dwain] yeah fair enough. but how long is a piece of string? We did that a with screwguns a while back (makita vs lesser known brand), and will do it again, but it's not our bread and butter.
I honestly think the Dewalt was more powerful, Just its protection cut in. The Makita seemed really bogged down and to the point where if i was using it i would normally back off slightly to let it catch up. Id be worried about the Makita cooking its motor or the battery. I think when Makita get round to making a Brushless planer it will be great. I still have a corded Makita from the 90s, for the small amount i use a planer its still fantastic.
To say a Dewalt is most likely to last longer than a competitor is like saying a Fiat or Alfa Romeo is more likely to be better built than an Audi or BMW.
@@OZToolTalk you probably should be. You might also have tried using an actual stable platform instead of one where the test wood was rocking back and forth. Who would use a planer on a platform like that?? Well you I guess?
I'm calling somethign on that Milwaukee battery... I own milwaukee and that 5.0 battery will outlast tons of other brands, by a long shot. to only get 30min or so, is bumpkiss
we have done many comparisons (check our playlist), and I cannot remember a time where Milwukee tools didn't place in the lower units for runtime. This one was definitely the worst in that regard and surprised us. If you ask about I don't think you'll find many people yelling praise for the brushed Milwaukee planer. It's not the battery as much as the tool IMO. [Dwain]
I run the Hitachi 18V platform, couldn't be happier with the gear. Have impact drivers, recip saw, grinder, multi tool, circ saw, planer and jigsaw. Really good kit
Great review ,very informative .Im gonna buy the dewalt ,while the Makita comes out on top , i dont trust the rest of their platform . love your dog she's sweet.
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Im picking one out right now and man, when you had the power test, it was probably the most exciting tool review I have seen... I was watching that segment like a basketball game haha. Great review as always, cheers mate.
[Dwain] haha, thanks Jay. Glad you enjoyed it. Let us know what you get!
Yea definitely, very informative because I was actually going to buy the M18 but Im glad I checked out your guys review first. I went with the Dewalt over Makita, thinking of the newer electronics, their comfortable grips, and positive stops on the adjustment knob- The knob just looks solid and well designed.
[Dwain] yeah man, i LOVE the Dewalt. Nice choice.
How to buy that one planner
@@jayross6588 Same, was going to buy the Milwaukee but will buy the Dewalt instead.
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ruclips.net/user/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
Glad I didn't trade my Makita in for the Milwaukee. Thanks guys
Nice video. I got myself today the Hitachi planer on a special sale offer for just 118 euros. I really hope it will pay off and last long. So far, no Hitachi tool has ever disappointed me. I was about to go for the Dewalt one mostly because it has a brushless motor but it was 70 euros more.
Hope you enjoy it!
I love my Hitachi, never had it bog down trimming doors.
Great results I thought my Mikita might have been a bit behind them all being so old. But its great to see that makita are making fantastic products compared to the more expensive Dewalt and Milwaukee.
Great review Dwayne! Glad I bought into the Makita system. They seem to make consistently good tools. Your dog is going to need a bath after this video! Say hi to Mike.
+Terry Goyan haha yeah the pup had a ball.
got the brushless version makita i fit a lot of doors ill let you know how i get on with it after ive done a few jobs with it
any feedback?
@@OZToolTalk hi the planer itself is great it feels solid and a good weight and balance to work with I got two Mikita batteries as I need to swap and change if I'm doing a few doors.I got it with a bag as I need as much room as I can get if I'm fitting say, five doors on a landing I know you can get it with a vac type thing but it just seems impractical for what I do. I found that you have to empty the bag before it gets even half full or it clogs up and fires the shavings all over the place.My last planer was a 240 corded dewalt and the bag on that was miles better. But all in all this is the best planer ive worked with shame about the bag
Is it me or is the Bosch the only one in your test that actually has no high pitch noise whatsoever?
Kinda curious about that, since the only planer I know that sounds like that is the festool hl ^^
Yes I recognize that to💯
Also noticed that....it was the main point I was looking for, Lol. DeWalt and Milwaukee were way too squealy! Bosch and Makita noticeable quieter.
What an effort! Brilliant mate! Another top video! Pretty surprising!!
+Steven Marshall thanks Steven!
Good review this. Watched it to see what the new DeWalt was like. Like the guy doing the review I use the Bosch. Mainly due to it's extraction left or right. It connects straight to my Bosch GAS vac too. If extraction wasn't important, which it is for me personally in the workshop, I think he made a pretty good case for the Makita.
[Dwain] cheers mate :) I've still got my Bosch and love using it. I'd jump to the Makita or Dewalt though, if cost was not a factor.
Wow, great review. I’m on the Milwaukee platform, and love their tools, however, they really fell short with their planer. I can see buying one if their price reflected performance, but we all know there is a huge mismatch in this respect. Got my eye on the Makita and DeWalt.
Cheers pal, good thinking 💪
Nice one man. Table was tops. Appreciate the amount of effort put into this comparison. Good luck with the clean up!
+mustbreak70 thanks mate :) my dad swept it up for me! total surprise....
Would a high output battery improve the milwaukee planer performance?
I very much doubt it
This is the best video I have seen so far comparing them all. We have Milwaukee products and my husband wants me to buy the Milwaukee planer but from what I have seen they suck. I am working at my log cabin in a remote location I cannot keep running home to recharge the batteries.
fair enough :)
Great video guys, encourage you to keep making them. Its great to have an Australian crew doing reviews as a comparison to our American reviewers across the water.
Maybe i'm too soft on my tools but i would typically not take my Planer over the 1.6mm ish mark anyways. I quess its good to know they can do more but for general carpentry -buzzing a wall ect, 1.6mm would be plenty imo.
[Dwain] Thanks mate, appreciate it. Yeah I would typically be taking off 0.5 - 1.5mm for regular tasks too.
Wow. Best review I've seen. So much data, so concise.
Wow, thanks!
Another good vid mate! I'm very happy with my makita, my only con with it is the blades are lightweight and Nick/snap/crack easily, thats mainly only when I'm straightening walls which isn't that often. Keep the vids coming!
+Kim Hathaway [Dwain] +Kim Hathaway Thanks Kim! Would all TCT blade planers (virtually all these days) suffer from the same issue?
Kim Hathaway The beauty of makita is you can still use the old heavy blades in it.
Nice review as usual. Have you guys tried the new 18v Bosch planer yet? Considering buying that or the Dewalt tested here.
For a big name like milwaukee and they stalled, DeWalt is my pick great review and test brother
cheers
I got the dewalt xr for free otherwise I'd have the Makita.
But even that old brushed model Makita is blowing away those brushless models. The new Makita brushless unit is just coming out and it's even better! I'd like to see the new Makita BL vs the Dewalt
We do too, and will be reviewing the BL Makita soon :D Stay tuned! [Dwain]
I fancied the Milwaukee till I saw this, my other tools are Makita anyway!
I'm very surprised how light the Bosch is compared to all the others, just 2.8 kg for Bosch vs 3.3 -3.7 kg for the rest.
+ITubeTooInc [Dwain] yeah it sure is light and nice to use.
Which is the most refined and accurate planer?
(Mike)
From all the way over here in Tassie Dwain... SUPER EFFORT mate.
Bought Makita 3 days ago and will be using it today. General reviews for Makita are good but in the UK it is very expensive compared to the others but for fine cuts supposed to be better. Thanks for the excellent video and after watching it think I made the right choice. Just a DIY man enjoying my retirement.
its lovely to have the best :D
drop from 1 metre about 20 times and see how they perform, changing the blades? Any of them got onboard storage?
[Dwain] I don't think any of them will stand up to repeat drops. they're a precision tool, and not a drill. their blade changes are all very similar. cheers
Squares, chisels, straight edges, hand planes and the like are precision tools. cordless tools are not precision instruments. I have knocked my bosch and the dewey off trestles quite a lot of times. Curious to know how the newer gear runs after a few knocks.
@@gummyworms3911 might just need a new baseplate?
Milwaukee battery protection kicked in to early and that's a good thing to get longer use out of your battery I know with my Makita batteries I have to replace them a lot more frequently. pros and cons to both but at the end of the day your more likely to get more out of a smarter tool with better protection
[Dwain] yeah it always a balance between protecting the tools and batteries, and allowing people to get the job done as fast as possible. The Makita planer is possibly a little too agressive on it's parts. The Milwaukee doesn't have enough go for me .... horses for courses.
I know this video is rather old and thanks for posting. I am about to buy one of these for a project and was just wondering how much pressure do you have to apply to get the planer to remove material? Were you pressing down pretty hard or was the machine doing all the work?
The planer does all the work, if you push it too fast though.
Excellent review, I'm in the market for a planer so this video came around at the right time. Glad I bought into Makita a while ago
+rpardz thanks man!
hi Dwagne I already have the Makita here it comes with the dust shoot and the bag is a accessory waiting for the Dewalt to be available in June hope it is good planer
+Tony Powell sweet, cheers!
Great review. Incredible the old Makita won in power AND was near the top in runtime at a reasonable price. I was really expecting the Dewalt to beat it in power and runtime after you earlier review.
+Jeff McMillan yeah it was a mighty fine effort from Makita. I expected the same Jeff.
Oz Tool Talk .
My dewalt can't arrive quick enough. Watched both your vids on it and I am well impressed. Surprised though that the brushless didn't out do the rest by a long way. Hats off to makita for making their planer stand the test of time!
The dog seemed to enjoy the whole thing though!
+ablakey88 [Dwain] cheers! it was a bit of a surprise. The dog is excited about everything! (he's only about 15 weeks old)
The Milwaukee planer is Amazing.
[Dwain] its great to use.
Well done review! I was going to buy the milwaukee but the makita would be the better choice
Thanks 👍
It doesn't matter
What ever brand you started buying cordless you should stick with because you will have batteries and chargeres
You can always sell your batteries and chargers. I have swapped just this weekend from Makita to DeWalt.
Adapters.
Brilliant! The makita fits in with my Malkita LXT 18v collection. Saved me heaps of time comparing features and prices. So happy with my Makita 18v planer purchase. $219AU (spot on considering the US to AU exchange rate) from Bunnings was the going price and closest retailer for todays' purchase . Like a hot knife thru soft butter. Thank you!
[Dwain] a pleasure Barry! Thanks
Great review. It would be really good if you could say something about how these cordless planers compare with an 82mm mains powered unit. I'm trying to decide between the (cheaper more powerful) mains unit vs a cordless unit.
good though, should do next time.
Wonderful review need some future review like this very informative.
great thanks for the video just put an offer on a makita after watching your video nice work
Nice 👍
Bosch the overall winner here because of a single blade vs 2 blades..1 blade stand other 2 blades is a lot difference..so Bosch is obviously a winner.
Surely that's a negative point?
Any word on a new model from Hikoki? (Metabo HPT, Hitachi)
Not that I've heard Benjamin. Metabo released one shortly after being purchased by HiKoki (Hitachi already had one), so that was a bonus for Metabo users. [Dwain]
Which one has the best dust collection?
None. They all will make a mess even with a vac attached. This is the nature of wood planing.
I was expecting better numbers from the Milwaukee but I wasn't expecting a class leading tool either. Milwaukee just wanted to have a planer on their battery platform I think. The uprising performer is the Hitachi. Hitachi isn't a bad brand but its never though about either. I blame it on bad marketing.
+DarkRaptor99 [Dwain] you could be right DR. The Hitach aint a bad tool at all.
With Bosch you didn't try at 2mm?
only goes to 1.6mm
Update with ridgid in the mix, how does it compare
In Aus we have the AEG. Not sure how it goes.
BTW the Makita is the most powerful and you can use the older resharpenable blades as well 👍👍👍
true!
Sounds like the Bosch and Makita were the strongest even though they’re brushed
Makita yes. Bosch is not stronger than the Dewalt IMO.
Does anyone know if the Milwaukee has improved in the last 4 years?
Linda NWFirefighter No it has not sorry. (Mike)
Damn that Makita looks promising
My Dewalt planer is fairly new, and constantly clogs up. Any tips?
All planers are prone to clogging to some degree. The primary way it happens for me is planing very quickly in soft Woods, especially in treated pine.
I think the best strategy is to learn to notice when it begins to clog, so that you can clear it just by running it clear of timber. Good luck!
Is 1mm cutting depth makita corded planer ok for DIY projects or I need to buy high end of upto 2mm cutting depth???
Please help me with this
Why would you need to routinely plane 2mm in a single pass? That's not smart and will dramatically shorten the tool life. Just make 4 passes at 0.5mm and your good.
@@dontblameme6328 Thank you for the information. So helpful.
So the non-brushless Makita beat out the brushless Dewalt. Good to know. Can’t wait for Makita to release their brushless version.
The whole brushless craze is really just a marketing ploy to increase prices while reducing manufacturing costs. Don't fall for it.
@@dontblameme6328 can’t confirm this to be true. When I compare my dad’s brushed Makita drills with my brushless drills the run time is definitely longer.
Great review lads. I use both Milwaukee and Dewalt platform. I bought the Milwaukee planer, then 1 month later the Dewalt Planer came out. Very disappointed. Wish I had known the Dewalt Brushless was coming out.
+Frazer Ross cheers mate. The M18 is a very good unit at the lower cut depths at least. Subscribe with us and you'll always know what's coming. Like our facebook page to get ALL the news - facebook.com/OZToolTalk/
I had the Hitachi cordless at work. Not that impressed to be honest as you weren't too.
- No option for vacuum attachment even if you wanted to. Not a popular option for planing in the industry unless at a customer's house or in a workshop, but on site very unlikely, but would like the option nonetheless
- The power just didn't feel there at all as soon as you were above anything over 1mm. Of course it is easy to overcome this with repeated 0.5mm passes but that just doesn't inspire you with confidence when it's rated at 2mm but stutters/struggles above 1mm. If you are already on the platform like the work paid for tools were with Hitachi, then it's a no brainer having sunk $400/£350 here worth on 5amp batteries. However if it's your own personal wallet sink the money into a mains powered planer if your battery platform isn't Makita or Dewalt.
That's the conclusion I took from this well made video comparison anyway.
Thanks for going through all the work to get the manufacturers barring Bosch to send you these to put against each other, much appreciated.
I'm Makita 18v invested with my own dollar, so when the time comes to replace the Makita 240v 1923 I will be getting the DKP180Z.
Thumbs up Dwain, this vid deserves a hell of a lot more views for the effort and time that appears to be put in. I mean just the barns worth of sawdust you put in the yard and worktop says it all!
[Dwain] haha thanks Ryan. Yeah it was a bit of work, and this is one of the comparisons I felt was able to really clearly differentiate the different brands from each other. Very satisfying.
I can't imagine Makita not putting out a brushless planer in the next couple of years.
And yeah, Hitachi was my least favourite to use, despite its long runtime.
Why didn't you test the Bosch at 2.0 mm even though it wasn't rated for this? It looked like and sounded like the Bosch did best at 1.6 mm. Wasn't it possible to set the Bosch at 2.0 mm?
Can't believe the Bosch was so much quieter than the high pitched noise from the DeWalt coming right after it.
+ITubeTooInc [Dwain] The Bosch depth gauge only goes to 1.6mm. I really like it for uses up to this depth (which is enough for me).
+Oz Tool Talk It would be nice to get your subjective opinions on the noise levels in these kind of H2H reviews as it can sometimes be hard to judge on recordings.
Bosch have 2.6 depth gauge planer why he didn't used in the test?
Robert Rada - Bosch don't currently have a cordless planer with a depth of 2.6mm. You only get 2mm+ depth on their corded planers. As this was a cordless planer test it would've been silly to include a corded Bosch.
I got the dewalt.il run it with 12ah flexvolt battery for ultimate runtime😍
omg ... :D
very good comparison! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Which is best for trimming fingernails?
Either
Is blade change area of comparision ?
Yes... As is the knife material and block construction.
How long is the battery will last from 100%-0%
good review mate, areas well covered. only thing I'd add is an aspect on ease of basic maint, e.g. blade swapouts, fatique/ergo although i saw that in your table comparison a little. Im picking one up tonight, was always favouring the Makita as I've never had an issue with that brand. Surprised how bad the Milwaukee sucked, I hear fanboys crying BS everywhere. Lol.
Dwagne Makita must be bringing out a brushless version soon because it's the 2nd oldest unit in your video
+Tony Powell [Dwain] It's very possible. Though, if they already have the best around, they might think 'why bother?'.
I think they were waiting for Dewalt planer to come out 1st so as to make there's better
Nice review. But I think you should add the model names of all the tools tested in the description below the video so you don't only have the brand names listed. It would be nice if you did this for all your reviews, please.
+ITubeTooInc [Dwain] that's a good point. I have the models in the video 'tags', but I'll add them to the description too. On most reviews they're in the title.
+Oz Tool Talk You could add in in the title instead of you like. MAybe easier to find if you search for reviews of a specific model.
i just tend to avoid it for comparisons due to the amount of text. i've always thought long titles are likely to be annoying. Do you think so?
+Oz Tool Talk As long as this video shows up if I search e.g. "Milwaukee M18BP", then it doesn't have to be included in the tile, at least not when you review many brands. And it looks like this is the case.
If there's only one model in a video I think you should still include both brand and model it in the title, but it looks like that's also what you already do.
I would however prefer, if in the description below the video you wrote:
"Models are: Makita DKP180, DeWalt DCP580, Hitachi P18DSL, Milwaukee M18BP, Bosch GHO 18-V Li".
Instead of just writing model names without brand names like this:
"Models are: DKP180, DCP580, P18DSL, M18BP, GHO 18-V Li"
Actually I would prefer each model listed on a new line for readability, like this:
The 5 models are:
Bosch GHO 18-V Li
DeWalt DCP580
Hitachi P18DSL
Makita DKP180
Milwaukee M18BP
Then it's much easier to find a specific model name if you want to google e.g. the "Milwaukee M18BP" to look up specs and prices.
It's hard to remember which model names belongs to which brand if they're not mentioned together.
Since I've just googled which model belongs to which brand for all the tested models, you can just copy/paste my example above and edit the description below the video to save a bit of work. I even sorted them alphabetically for you. :-)
The first line of your description you could also ad the model names like this: All the major brands are in here: Bosch GHO 18-V Li, DeWalt DCP580, Hitachi P18DSL, Makita DKP180, Milwaukee M18BP.
This way everyone can see all model names in the first two lines without clicking "show more".
I've often seen people ask for something under RUclips videos, that has already been mentioned in the description when you click show more, simply because they haven't clicked this so they don't see it.
Fox example people ask again and again what music is used in many RUclips videos, even when it's already in the description if you had just clicked "show more".
[Dwain] I'm gonna have to put you on payroll! ;) Thanks heaps mate, I totally agree on all points.
whys that milwaukee battery @3:50 look so fake?
I'm guessing you're from the US. We have different branding over here. The fakes you see on ebay are modelled after the graphics used in the rest of the world.
I do not see the stanley machine.
not a trade tool, we try to only compare trade tools.
Is the festool Planar any better?
[Dwain] Never used one sorry. Are you sure they have a cordless planer?
+Oz Tool Talk I'm just looking to buy a planer in general.
But, to your point they do not.
[Dwain] I would imagine that Festool's unit would have some specific advantages. But I don't think buying Festool straight off the bat is a good move in general, because value is very important to me.
Fair enough... I suppose that a part of me is trying to keep things as unified as possible, while also seeking value.
It was like watching a game of Russian roulette with that staple at the end of the piece of wood.. I got quite anxious watching as to which tool would hit it..
wow, I've never noticed that. I suspect it was either a plastic staple, or a trick of the eye. I can't believe I wouldn't have noticed a big metal staple! :/
hi, i am seriously happy with this video, i know how work proveen brands here are figthing.But brushless or brushed, i don't know how to choose, e.g dewalt and makita, very brave planers but which one Will require first maintenance?... thanks!!
[Dwain] If I had to choose, I would pick the Dewalt to last longer because it protects itself better. But I don't think brushes are going to need changing much in a cordless planer, so it's not a big deal at all. Either would be a great pick. If you don't already have an 18V platform, I suggest picking your platform based on the strength of the other tools.
+Oz Tool Talk thanks friend, i had both brands, maybe,as you explain brushed not need hurry up maintenance on cordless planer... i think makita 18 v are quieter and strong, dewalt strong but too loud when it works... could possible a match sound between those brands?.. thanks
[Dwain] I'm sorry, I can't remember which is louder. I think you should choose based on how many batteries you have for each, and how much you're willing to spend. If you don't care about price, I'd go Dewalt.
+Oz Tool Talk thanks ;). i appreciate your comment
what about the 2 aeg planners
we didn't test them. think we are about to test on of them though.
Informative and thorough review as always Dwain. Don't get me wrong they make get great tools but why do you think Milwaukee has more difficulty with carpentry tools given that they are geared more towards electricians and plumbers?
+drayne3750 [Dwain] cheers drayne. only time will tell i guess. I think they'll make up the gap soon enough.
Very very nice job
Awesome review, thanks!! (Nice pup by the way)
[Dwain] thanks cosssio. yeah he's a great little mate.
Good video and good choice with Makita.
Thanks 👍
I'll go with the DeWalt. Said it was his favorite to use. That goes a long way. #TIACREW
nice review. really disappointed in Milwaukee as being a very well know 'tool of the trade' brand you'd think that they could of done better with the planner. when people invest into a brand like Milwaukee you'd want high quality and powerful,but i dont think they delivered on the planner. love the rest of their tools. once again great video!
+james ebrahimi i hear you. but every brand has weaknesses. Given their nailers coming out, I thought they were gonna try steal some of the carpentry market....
Could not possibly hate the Milwaukee planer more. No power, dust port clogs really bad, the cut snips a lot at the end, and doesn’t leave a perfect 90 degree cut.
Makita and dewalt are far superior
hi Dwain will be getting the new Dewalt planer tomorrow as today is a bank holiday
[Dwain] Nice!
As good as battery tools are today, they cant replace power yet. Also use the right tool for the job. I have the Milwaukee battery buzzer and only use it to buzz archs (@2mm) when doing a fix and works perfectly on MDF and 2x1 batten and whatever else. Everything else i use my makita power buzzer. The Milwaukee buzzer hasn't cut out on me yet but I always let the tool do the work I never push them. Battery is not bad (5ah) but i have 5 so don't really care lol 👍🏻
[Dwain We totally agree on using the right tool for the job. But in many situations, battery tools CAN replace power tools. I can't remember the last time I saw an electric drill (except SDS) on a site. Or an electric impact driver. For people who use planers just for bevels, they could do away with a power planer. For lighter-duty tasks, the M18 planer is such a good tool!
All my tools are bosch, so it's the only one I'd go for.
right on
Mine too but I'm in really disappointed with bosch, here in the UK that planer is £30 more than the dewalt brushless I'm a hair thickness from switching to dewalt
Be nice to see these big brands compare with the cheaper Einell planner, WHY you ask?
My cheap Erbauer cordless grinder outperrform my Dewalt 18v xr grinder, so I sold the dewalt.lol
[Dwain] yeah fair enough. but how long is a piece of string? We did that a with screwguns a while back (makita vs lesser known brand), and will do it again, but it's not our bread and butter.
Great review, good info
Thanks for watching!
Pretty much Dewalt plainer beats all of them except for Bosch. Kyle Metcalfe (VLVV)
I thought the dewalt wiped the floor with the bosch? Am I missing something?
a 6 ah batteri gives 15-20 % more power output than a 3 ah batteri
love the content thanks friend
The pup stuck around for the Milwaukee and ran from the Makita, so Milwaukee it is.
haha done
Super-helpful, thank you.
You're welcome!
You missing the kobalt
Accompanied by the Good dog
yep yep
I honestly think the Dewalt was more powerful, Just its protection cut in. The Makita seemed really bogged down and to the point where if i was using it i would normally back off slightly to let it catch up. Id be worried about the Makita cooking its motor or the battery.
I think when Makita get round to making a Brushless planer it will be great. I still have a corded Makita from the 90s, for the small amount i use a planer its still fantastic.
[Dwain] The Dewalt is certainly a powerhouse, I found it hard to pick which was more powerful. Both make great planers.
Thanks a lot.
To say a Dewalt is most likely to last longer than a competitor is like saying a Fiat or Alfa Romeo is more likely to be better built than an Audi or BMW.
The dewalt clearly outpowered the Makita. The table wasn't stable and was tipping due to the pressure during the Dewalt test. Dewalt dominated.
i'm so glad that i've got you to tell me what I experienced in my own test ;)
@@OZToolTalk you probably should be. You might also have tried using an actual stable platform instead of one where the test wood was rocking back and forth. Who would use a planer on a platform like that?? Well you I guess?
Thanks !
I'm calling somethign on that Milwaukee battery... I own milwaukee and that 5.0 battery will outlast tons of other brands, by a long shot. to only get 30min or so, is bumpkiss
we have done many comparisons (check our playlist), and I cannot remember a time where Milwukee tools didn't place in the lower units for runtime. This one was definitely the worst in that regard and surprised us. If you ask about I don't think you'll find many people yelling praise for the brushed Milwaukee planer. It's not the battery as much as the tool IMO. [Dwain]
@@OZToolTalk yeah, brushed doesn't stand as long...
Well well well the Makita destroys all the brushless hype .
😂oops sorry about the typo of your name! Darn auto correct!
Tony Powell f
dewalt all the way but i eas sad about the hitach not doing aswell
Hitachi hitachi H I T A C H I!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't make myself any clearer
I think the video was plenty clear for everyone to see. The Hitachi was clearly inferior to the Dewalt and Makita.......And it wasnt even close
I run the Hitachi 18V platform, couldn't be happier with the gear. Have impact drivers, recip saw, grinder, multi tool, circ saw, planer and jigsaw. Really good kit
Can't wait for the Hitachi/ HiKOKI 36V cell to come out
I run Hitachi mostly as well. Tbh their planers are kinda shit but everything else is amazing
Great review ,very informative .Im gonna buy the dewalt ,while the Makita comes out on top , i dont trust the rest of their platform .
love your dog she's sweet.
[Dwain] thanks Adrian. I'm sure you'll love the Dewalt, it's a great tool.
Cassiya100 Einell don't make a cordless planer