Congrats on 50K, Brickey! We were supposed to get the DL Tomorrowland plan at last weekend’s event, I am quite sure. According to my folks, it was stopped by one Mr. Robert A Iger. For better or worse, that I don’t know. Given the Cars thing at MK was done at his insistence, I’m going to guess worse! -Brayden
Thanks, Brayden! I have been attending D23s since 2017. Each year, I show up in hopes of Tomorrowland getting acknowledged, but it never happens. I trust your reporting. You have a higher success rate than anyone else, so you obviously know some folks; your news warms my heart, and it was at least close this time. Thanks for the insight. Hope to bump into you again soon in WDW
@mickeyviews 70th announcement, but I don't think people should set their expectations high. The land is far too popular, too much food and merch sales (still highest volume for young boys). Consistently longest Churro, Popcorn, and Pretzel lines.
One of the biggest problem with Tomorrowland is that right now there are very few positive visions of the future. When Tomorrowland started, every major corporation had an amazing vision of the future and right now most corporations can barely see past the next quarter.
I'm with you but even not so cynical... What would the vision of tomorrow be? I know that nostalgia has people wanting the kinetic motion, but is that a statement of tomorrow? Or is that just nostalgia? I think a real vision is needed. I also think that they'll build a new space mountain too so we're talking a few decades from now
Tell that to the Saudis with their Neom projects. There are plenty of positive visions, but Disney has to be willing to spend some money to turn them into reality.
@@SpaceShotSuper excited to see what the new Space Mountain in Tokyo is going to look like. Can’t even wrap my head around how amazing it will almost certainly be.
@@LJC123 they are tearing it down and rebuilding it starting with space mountain, which is already under construction behind the existing space mountain, which just closed.
@@LJC123 Not just the brand new Space Mountain, but we've been updating our🇯🇵 Tomorrowland on a major scale since the Star Jets were taken down to build the Bay Max's Happy Ride alongside the Big Pop back in the late 2010's. In addition to the impending Supeman (how we Japanese call Space Mountain), the O.L.C. is updating/redesigning Astro Blaster by taking it down and building a world's first Wreck it Ralph ride, which will be completed in 2026 or 27.
I think that if Fantastic Four: First Steps is successful, Disney should take some cues from it and go all in on a retrofuturistic design that highlights the 60s optimism of the future, rather than basing it on our present visions of tomorrow. Such a design could essentially future-proof the land and give them an excuse to incorporate a potential Fantastic Four attraction seamlessly into the area, as well as other suitable IP like Big Hero 6 and Tron.
This was what I was thinking when watching the video. F4 movie basically seems to embody this retro tomorrow & might also play into a world’s fair theme, since they were scientists/astronauts
It baffles me that Disney is willing to add entire lands to parks, and gut entire areas to build new attractions, whilst intentionally neglecting reviving attractions whose bones are still dormant in Tomorrowland. Obviously, I don’t think the Disney Parks fandom (especially west coasters) can scream any louder that we want the Peoplemover to come back. The most frustrating thing is that the decision to revive the PM would be the biggest net positive change to make to the park. The least amount of construction and renovation with the BIGGEST return on investment. It’s an easy W, yet Disney is seemingly content with the skeleton of the dead attraction looming over Tomorrowland
Disney isn't Disney anymore is the biggest issue. Disneyland was born of creativity and making dreams reality. All the old timers that still barely kept hold of that are gone. Now it's run by greedy corporates that only care about quantity over quality so they can keep their annual bonuses where they are. Its been a horrible slow death of one of the most amazing institutions many of us grew up with. Kids aren't what they used to be because parents aren't what they used to be.
I love the retro idea. Others would too. I was looking at Tomorrowland Terrace behind you. We loved parking our arses there at night and listening to the tunes while chomping a burger.
When I was a kid, one of my favorite rides was Adventure Thru Inner Space. I loved the drama about being shrunk into the size of a molecule as you floated by the microscope (and yes, I waved to the eyeball 😀). Thanks for another great video!
Another incredible video! I just finished your first Horizon video as well. I am so excited for a new Tomorrowland. I feel so much hope from listening to you! Keep up the positive vibes. The Magic is alive we just have to believe.
Congratulations on surpassing 50k!! So happy for you and grateful that you kept the dream going in 2024! Many have said it and it’s true, you by far have the best Disney content. Your respect for the history, for Walt, unparalleled! Thanks for all the amazing content!
Would love to see Wall-E break into the land in a Tron-Style attraction, but I’ve been saying that for 15 years now 😂 The new Monsters Inc coaster at WDW gives me hope that this IP can still find a place in the park
Back in the late 80's and early 90's us teenagers ONLY hung out in Tomorrowland. We would go over to Fantasyland to dance at Videopolis but then head right back to Tomorrowland after fireworks. It was the ONLY place to hang out with Starcade, PeopleMover w/Tron, Space Mountain, Mission to Mars, America Sings, original Autopia, original Rockets, Adventure Thru Inner Space eventually Star Tours, CircleVision, Tomorrowland Terrance Dance Club with live music bands and DJ's, and of course Magic Eye Theater with Michael Jackson's CAPTAIN EO. What a great time as a kid!
I miss the good old days when Tomorrowland was the place to be at night with live bands, the arcade and so much activity. If you’re right, I think it will be at least 10 years before we see the change.
Great video! First, Congrats on reaching 50k! What an accomplishment. In regards to Tomorrowland, I believe Disney will wait and see how well the new retheme of Tomorrowland in Tokyo Disneyland will do when it opensin 2027. If that updated version of Tomorrowland is a success, especially their new Space Mountain, I believe they will be a copy of that version here. Possibly in time for Disneylands 80th birthday in 2035.
Love your channel and I love your idea. The merchandise I saw this summer for Tomorrowland was retro. Seems like a no brainer to me. They need to listen to their audience more.
I heard from another RUclipsr (I forgot who) Kim Irvine has dropped hints that there are already plans for a revised Tomorrowland (although I'm sure there have been several proposals). I'm crossing my fingers that Disney will finally build this in time for opening on the 75th anniversary of Disneyland.
I'm still sad that Disneyland Paris hasn't recieved any new attraction. The last real new attraction was Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast which opened in 2006. This is now 18 years without any new attraction which is kinda sad. I hope you will talk about this in a video soon.
Tomorrowland is my favorite "land" in the park. It is sad to see it decline over the past decades. Hopefully, it will get the attention it deserves shortly after Tokyo is finished in a few years. With that being said, I wanted to say thanks, for not being another Disney vlogger that goes around the park, filming random crap. It's nice to get an intelligent view of the park and its possible future "visions" on what may happen. Keep up the good work!
The Disneyland story as the IP.. that’s a genius idea and really could work. A permanently retro-styled celebration of something that should truly be celebrated. And very meta indeed! Love it.
Another great video. In the recent skyway video, I really enjoyed the background behind the Skyway and it was really interesting how they integrated it with the Matterhorn.
Once the parking garage on the Eastside is complete and DCA expands into the drop off zone it us rumored that Tomorrowland would expand as well. The parade and the Railroad have a hold on this section of the property as well as a few back of house buildings. "What if" the Railroad moved further South before heading West and the parade storage and buildings went under ground, that would free up space to expand or relocate Tomorrowland and thusly give more of the current Tomorrowland to Fantasyland or a new land.
On the topic of the Disneyland railroad moving, if you look at how close the Galaxy's Edge show buildings get to the city streets (separated by only a narrow backstage access/circulation road and treeline), that is likely what Disney will want in Tomorrowland some day (where Autopia is) when they bring modern, massive show buildings in. The current train tracks are too far in from the property line and reduce the effective acreage, and running the tracks behind the buildings is "bad show" and disrupts the service access. So what may happen is the same thing they did for Galaxy's Edge in which they re-route the train tracks farther into the parks -- like literally a bridge running across the submarine lagoon (kind of like Tony Baxter's Discovery Bay vibes) and you get to the lands and attractions at the perimeter by passing under the tracks (like going into Toontown).
I like your vision for Tomorrowland. It should be "a moment in time", something like Main Street USA. I also like it being an alternate reality thing, some sort of "For All Mankind", based on the landing on the moon, a fundational moment in history. At Eurodisney, they tried something diferent with Discoveryland, a sort of Jules Verne land, but the theming was lost with the inclusion of Star Tours, Captain Eo, Autopia, etc.
What I don’t understand though is the infrastructure for rides is already there in Tomorrowland but they are instead going to have to start from scratch for these new lands. Updating Tomorrowland would be a quicker turn around and for less money
Another fascinating lecture Prof. Brickey. I’d like to take your ideas and add a slice of Marvel. The new Fantastic Four film is going to be in an alternate universe with a futuristic 60’s vibe. Kind of like the original Tomorrowland. I see a world where this esthetic becomes the basis for a renovation. Just a thought. Congratulations again on hitting 50K and I can’t wait for 100K. If you make killer content the followers will find you!!!
tomorrowland's future lies in its past. the blueprints have been gathering dust in the disney archives for decades. anyone who actually got to visit the 1967 tomorrowland (myself included) knows how beautiful and amazing it was back then. the kinetic energy was all around you in multiple levels.a rotating building,peoplemover trains,skyway gondolas,monorails,autopia cars,submarines,rocket jets. there wasn't anywhere you could look and not see movement. that's what's missing from tomorrowland today. it's stagnated beyond belief. i'm 63 years old. i first rode the peoplemover when i was 6,and my last ride was when i was in my 30s. will i have to wait until i'm 80 to ride it again (God willing i live that long)? forget about imagineering something new. just give us back what we had with updated technology,and let the future generations see and experience walt's vision of tomorrow the way he wanted it to be.
Love your idea of building up Tomorrowland itself as the IP. And I think Fantastic Four can complement that. Maybe you were hinting at that when you mentioned future IP. A hopefully successful Marvel property inspired by Tomorrowland, with a presence in Tomorrowland will make the suits feel comfortable investing in a total land overhaul. Great video as always!
New subscriber here really liking the content. We have been to Orlando many times and I think your idea about Disney history is a good one. I've always wanted to make the cross country trip to Disneyland because of the history that is there. There are so many things that Disneyland has that Orlando doesn't and just being in Walt's park would be a thrill.
I have so many fond memories of Tomorrowland in its heyday. Its current state makes me sad. Behind New Orleans Square, it’s my favorite land. It’s hard to explain to my kids what Tomorrowland was like when I was growing up. At night, there was no better place. I’d love to see a reboot of TL ‘67 with technology updates, but whatever happens, I just want it to get the love it deserves and return to a thing of beauty.
This. I worked in DL for 8 years, and went back a few months ago for the first time in 20. Tomorrowland just made me sad. I can see a reworking of the whole area, doing a 'worlds fair' view of tomorrow, but they have got to gut the whole thing and start over, IMO. Something new and awesome that makes me forget what it was and be hopeful for what it will be.
Bob Iger loves making things IP based. Fantastic 4 comes out in a couple years with a retro futuristic 60s style. Combine that with the Stark Expo, and you have an easy conversion.
As a long time citizen of Disneyland who lives out of state I have been trying to predict this stuff for years. Ever since the 90s returb. I think your right on the money with the holding on for a bit longer to blow minds. It just makes sense!
I liked the retro-Disneyland futurism they were exploring in the old Rocket Rods queue by displaying defunct ride vehicles painted to look like 3D blue prints. It was like Tomorrowland was telling its own history of past optimism.
The whole time I was watching the event on Saturday night I was like - this is all great, but the Rides people are definitely winning out over the VIBES people this year!
Relying on a “vision of the future from the past” does solve the issue of the land eventually looking or feeling outdated, but I can’t help but feel that the true vision of Walt was to create a land that is optimistic and excited about the future, and celebrates what mankind’s innovation and hard work can accomplish. With that, Offhand Disney put out a video a while back where he suggested using “solar punk” as a way to revamp Tomorrowland. Basically having sleek futuristic designs that incorporate lots of greenery and renewable energy, with an emphasis on conservation and sustainability as a vision of the future. I think he even suggested Wall-E as an IP that could fit well into such a land. I’ve always thought that would be such a cool approach and help keep the integrity of the land’s spirit, while still keeping it fresh for the next several decades.
It is surprising when big events like Tomorrowland don't make announcements as expected. It could mean they have something major in the works or are waiting for the right moment to reveal it. Sometimes, anticipation builds more excitement, and they might be aiming for a bigger impact with their announcement! ❤🚀
I have always thought of Tomorrowland as a World Fair. It was so much like the NY Fair with all those sponsors and their idea of the near future. I was at the NY Fair and the first years of Tomorrow land and even before the NY Fair.... house of the future, flying saucers etc. 😎
Thank you Brickey, another fantastic video, I'm a big fan of the retro celebration of Tomorrowland idea! I love that you are studying Disneyland's past to better predict its future. I think if we look at *the past* and importantly include *the decision this week* by Disney to fill in Rivers of America at WDW for a Cars attraction, what we can now predict is that *almost nothing is off the table* in terms of being removed or replaced. Disney is far less sentimental than we fans. So I think a change we may have thought was unthinkable a week ago is quite possible...and could change Tomorrowland dramatically...Matterhorn being changed to the Frozen mountain (including dramatic changes to rock work and bobsleds become sleighs) and Arendelle getting built where the submarines and monorail and utopia is now. This is on par with what is happening at WDW. Think about it, they are selling almost no Matterhorn merchandise or food. And wouldn't Iger want drivers along I-5 to see the Frozen. mountain instead of public domain Matterhorn? That change could really reduce the scale of Tomorrowland and change the what-happens-to-Tomorrowland equation.
@@HeyBrickey Ha! To be clear I'm not rooting for this, and I'm sure the idea has been on their brainstorm board since Frozen's first week in the box office. The only thing new is we now see an anything-goes Disney approach. For me, I'd rather see Matterhorn preserved and enhanced with a prop-filled mountaineering and Yeti-expedition themed queue chalet with S.E.A. story tie-in.
To me it is painfully obvious that they are waiting for the new Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain to age out of exclusivity period to redo the entirety of Tomorrowland including new space mountain.
I remember how tomorrow land was in the early 1970’s mission to the moon, Adventure through inner space, circle vision, the beloved people mover. It was truly magical to a child’s eyes. I miss it!
Your answer is Fantastic 4... Assuming it's successful at the box office. The intellectual properties of Tron Legacy and the Tomorrowland film didn't quite make the numbers at the box office to justify any Tomorrowland additions. Also have to remember that Disneyland has many international guests, not only locals regularly visiting the park. So you have to keep some recognisability to meet the expectations of those guests looking for the 'Disneyland' experience. Space Mountain is a perfect example... If I was travelling internationally I'd be excited to ride the original Space Mountain experience or even Hyperspace Mountain… But I'd be disappointed if it was the Ghost Galaxy Halloween overlay.
I would love to see Tomorrowland updated, and actually made a multi-level land. I dont know why Disney isn't building upwards towards the sky, but they should.
I’ll note that playing behind your description of “Disneyland as its own IP”, the Tomorrowland loop (in Disneyland!) was playing “If You Had Wings” from MK’s Tomorrowland …which kinda tracks with your thesis.
“Occam's razor, or the principle of parsimony, tells us that the simplest, most elegant explanation is usually the one closest to the truth.”. So to me the simplest explanation is that Disney has decided it's too expensive to update Tomorrowland properly so they just decided to do nothing.
I think there’s a relatively simple explanation. With next year being the 70th they didn’t want to add more large scale park closures. So I believe that the next D23 will have big announcements in regards to tomorrowland once they’ve passed the 70th anniversary and can focus on refurbishment and reimagining areas of the park.
I think you did an excellent job explaining the theme of the land and how it should be… I think we’ve all been thinking something similar… It needs to be a retro themed cohesive land, and who better to be the ambassador and mascot and guide through the land, other than Walt Disney himself… it should be a cohesive themed retro late 1950s land… Exploring advanced transportation and other things that will provide tremendousbenefit to humanity … excellent job in explaining a great vision for that land… That’s the only way it could be done. You can’t keep up with technology. It has to be tomorrow land of the past for the future… The only way it would work… It would be brilliant it would be beautiful.
Considering the amount of work being done in DCA and the new expansions ahead for Disneyland Forward. I see new lands being the priority. Disney wants to utilize all the new acquired land now with new worlds (first) because Tomorrowland is “good enough for now”. I imagine they want the Tron IP to grow more in popularity with the new upcoming film and if it’s successful enough I can see it easily taking over for Tomorrowland. If I were to make a prediction for (Best Case Scenario) on breaking ground for new construction/remodeling/etc. it would be the year 2027/2028 or 2029-31 with Tomorrowland finally being something truly impressive! Hey Brickey, Love your videos! Congrats on 50K!
Brickey, this is an immensely intelligent and thoughtful theory of what they're planning. I appreciate your willingness to take these ideas and put them "on paper" so to speak. I don't know, however, if the current leadership of Disney has that level of foresight, thought, and imagination to utilize Tomorrowland as its own meta story of Disneyland and Walt's vision. The current storytelling machine is so focused on conservative money making ideas and the parks seem to reflect that philosophy. D23, specifically the Horizons park session, didn't do much to alleviate that although I understand that their immediate response is necessary with Epic Universal next door. I hope we'll be talking about this in 10-15 years in the ways you've described.
Tomorrowland used to be the life of park!! Everyone wanted to be there up till after the end of rocket rods really…there was so much to do and so much fun!! I feel like this commitment they have made to make everything IP based is setting themselves up for failure, it also creates a conflict with the design and theme of the park and lands as a whole!!! The more pointless IP’s being added makes me less and less interested in going to the parks, everything I enjoy is gone, and the new designs and concepts with IP’s do not work as a whole…the parks are slowly imploding with bad decisions and with leaders struggling to hold on to their jobs and justifying their positions
It’s time to remodel Tomorrowland. Move Star Tours to Star Wars-land, keep Space Mountain , leave the subs and Autopia alone. and reconstruct the place.
Hello Sir, they have no idea what they want to do with that area. Yes, I believe you have a good point. With today's tech, video walls, projector tech, there should always be new tech in there. Like a NES type area full time, you come in and come out to show what is out there, Space X type stuff. Great video
I’m curious to see Tomorrowland eventually change. Hopefully they’re keeping the cards close! Yeah I agree that we may not see anything in 10-15 years. Thanks Brickey for keeping the conversation going!
Attempting constructive criticism. I like your videos but sometimes they feel like they could be edited by 1/3 to feel less repetitive. This video is broken down into 1) the Tomorrowland problem 2) Disney focusing on capacity through expansion 3) the Disney IP idea. Breaking it down, 3 minutes are spent bagging on Tomorrowland, not just stating issues, but going negative (e.g. sorrowland, broken, half dead). I know it has problems and needs love, but the video tone feels like an overly negative vibe. That negativity continues to be sprinkled in throughout the video (e.g. rotting away, maybe the future dies at Disneyland, Disney ignoring fans) and contributes to the feeling of repetitiveness and hopelessness. The discussion of prioritizing new capacity and DCA parity is good (3 min), but then the next 2 minutes goes back to the problems of Tomorrowland (makes it feel repetitive), how Disney has no plans for Tomorrowland, and how it will be over a decade before any updates are likely to occur. The last 6 minutes are where you focus on the Disney IP idea, which is good, but there is a feeling that you are undercutting your own idea by going back to the ‘Disney has no plan’ talk. Just state your positive idea and don’t go negative or negate the blue sky idea by hedging. So, what could have been a great video about room for improvement at Tomorrowland, why Tomorrowland is not currently a focus, and an idea for the future that could have left viewers hopeful, turned into a video that ignores the positives, tells us why things are not going to get better, and then describes an idea while implying that Disney will likely not do it.
As a generation x growing up in the 1980s with the original Star Wars trilogy, tomorrow land was always my favorite. I can still remember riding space mountain over and over again. I always envisioned a type of Star Wars land but galaxy’s edge ruined that. Then I envisioned a Tomorrowland that looked like the fifth element. I never liked the mid century modern style. Now I think we should do a Tomorrowland based on Tron. I really miss the starcade and I think a recreation of Flynn’s arcade would be really cool. Buzz lightyear and pizza planet should be moved to DCA with the other Pixar properties. Star tours can be rethemed to almost anything. Autopia should have been rethemed to cars years ago and the submarine ride should be repurposed.
One of my biggest disappointments for the revival of Tomorrowland, given how dependent Disney is on IP now, is that the movie Tomorrowland wasn't a huge hit to become a huge multi-film franchise. I heard at one point they were also planning a Tomorrowland anthology series on Disney+, I'd still love to see that. I am so glad that I got to experience Tomorrowland between 1967 and 1987 (when "Adventure Thru Inner Space" was still there) I absolutely loved it and I am thankful for the memories of that at least.
I I am time stamping this comment at 2:58. My thoughts about why tomorrowland is sorrow land is because they need to build up the capacity elsewhere in order to be able to totally utterly redo the land. The only thing that I am scratching my head about is why there were no big announcements at all for Disneyland. DCA got all of the glory they need it but also they have so many more attractions that can eat people in ways that Disneyland doesn't.
I've got to believe that once the new lands are built in the parking lots as part of the Disneyland Forward project, they'll attack Tomorrowland as they'll be able to maintain capacity park wide while Tomorrowland gets closed in whole for a few years.
Tomorrowland being used to represent the chronological history of the parks is a really interesting idea. You could say something poetic, like how the accomplishments of decades past are what lay the foundation for what’s yet to come. while the rest of the park evolves, Tomorrowland can be used to preserve the legacies of lands/attractions in an archive that guests can still interact with.
TomorrowLand feels like what I remember Six Flags feeling like (haven't been there in decades). It's the most failed land in the entire resort. Each land feels extremely immersive. Star Wars Land, Marvel, Cars, Redwoods... they each feel like a totally unique space, removed from Anaheim. TomorrowLand feels like a mixed-up space with contrasting styles without a single "Feel". Unfortunately, the future doesn't have a single style Disney can pull from. Some Toy Story, some Star Wars, some Nemo, some 1950s style. Abandon Tomorrowland totally, and just put up a sign that says "coming soon".
First it’s time to change its name. Like Disneyland Paris. We have reached our tomorrow to start calling it Discoveryland. Plus that name will match the lands connection for the Disneyland Hotel towers.
I think one of the biggest problems is that we have more recently gone through such a technological boom that it's hard to put something there that won't be instantly out of date. I think it would be interesting if they were to make a ride that looks at how the theme park technology has changed and advanced over the years and what it could be in the future.
Brickey! I think you've got something there! Tomorrow Land could totally be re-retrofied- mid century. The best parts already are, even if they don't exist anymore (People Mover & Voyage thru inner space). Keep the faith Brickey!
I liked the D23 announcements-especially the Walt Disney Opera house show, however, I too was disappointed in not hearing an announcement for a Tomorrowland re model. I wish they would revert Tomorrowland in using the mid century modern aesthetic that it once had in its heyday. When the land had moving objects decked out in primary colors. Along with flair from Mary’s Blair’s MCM artwork. The remodel should also include a form of the People Mover. It’s sad because Tomorrowland currently state looks like a dead mall.
When I was a kid, Tomorrowland was pretty fascinating. I still remember the Adventure Through Inner Space ride, Mission to Mars, Captain EO, People Mover, Circle Vision, Skyway, & other things that were there. Even the old Mary Blair mural with the satellites. It was one of my favorite lands. However, Disneyland has pretty much neglected the area for years. They tried to revamp it in the later 90's, but it ended up looking kind of "cheesy". Stupid Rocket Rods idea ruined the People Mover track. I hope that Disney has a major revamp in mind 'cause that land needs to be reworked badly. 🧐
Well, they did do "Saving Mr. Banks", which was fairly successful, although certainly not a blockbuster. That's Walt specific. Or maybe the Imagineers are going to break out the big guns and really go to town with something spectacularly robotic? Something forward of "Forward". Ah, I am worried that we won't know for a good while. P'haps some alternate history? Oh, I know you were able to fit the Frozen land into one of the "Forward" parking lots, but that didn't get announced. Oh well, the info coming out of D23 was still cool. And so are your analyses.
Yes, I know that I miss the Halloween overlay ride: Space Mountain: Ghost Galaxy here at Disneyland, but I have a new idea for the Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. Since they put the Christmas overlay during the Mickey's Very Mery Christmas Party, so during the Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween, I want them to do as what they did not change like I did a long time ago: the Halloween overlay of the Space Mountain: Ghost Galaxy attraction for the legacy of two versions in California and Hong Kong.
I see that being doable because if they stuck to the future it’s would constantly have to change. I kinda wish tomorrow land focused on Star Wars but even that wouldn’t have been the best fit. I just wonder if they focused on the retro Disney if it would popular. I look forward to seeing what’s to come!
Here's the thing: Disney does have plans for Tomorrowland in the near future, however, it'll be during other things. Parts of Tomorrowland have to be shut down to restore and repair and reopen certain attractions.... for example, one slow attraction that operates overhead because they're going to bring 2 versions of it with the expansion.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Tomorrowland itself already exists as IP, although tbh I've never seen it and forgot it existed until just now.
Autopia is easy enough to retheme: in the world of tomorrow, cars will just be autonomous EVs, while manually driving ICEs is reserved for sport or recreation. And here is the one place you can experience that.
Some suggestions for Tomorrowland: IPs wreck it Ralph, WALL-E, strange worlds, Tron. Food (because it's my least favorite spot in the park) turn Galactic Grill into an automat and Pizza Planet into a conveyor belt restaurant with robots that bring out drinks like some sushi bars
You are so dang good at explaining stuff lol. I think just like what they're doing with movies, making sequels to extend the stories of already successful franchises, they're playing it safe at the parks too, making attractions and lands based on successful franchises. Tomorrowland will get "fixed," but first, they're doing what will 100% work.
Feels like Magic Kingdoms Rivers of America and Disneylands Tomorrowland have a lot on common, based upon lack of upkeep that you mention in both videos
In Magic Kingdom is the same issue. But, with some of the other announcements this week I could see Monsters Inc Laugh Floor moving to Hollywood Studios and the potential to close the speedway if they open that style attraction for the Cars family ride. That (plus the already empty Stitch's great escape) would leave tons of room to reimagine a crazy cool new Tomorrowland in FL.
Congrats on 50K, Brickey! We were supposed to get the DL Tomorrowland plan at last weekend’s event, I am quite sure. According to my folks, it was stopped by one Mr. Robert A Iger. For better or worse, that I don’t know. Given the Cars thing at MK was done at his insistence, I’m going to guess worse! -Brayden
Love seeing colleagues and creatives appreciate each other. Respect to you both.
I heard rumor that it was to be announced too. Maybe just wishful thinking.
Thanks, Brayden! I have been attending D23s since 2017. Each year, I show up in hopes of Tomorrowland getting acknowledged, but it never happens. I trust your reporting. You have a higher success rate than anyone else, so you obviously know some folks; your news warms my heart, and it was at least close this time. Thanks for the insight. Hope to bump into you again soon in WDW
Brayden is a top-tier Disney RUclipsr. I don't think I have missed a video in at least five or six years!
@mickeyviews 70th announcement, but I don't think people should set their expectations high. The land is far too popular, too much food and merch sales (still highest volume for young boys). Consistently longest Churro, Popcorn, and Pretzel lines.
One of the biggest problem with Tomorrowland is that right now there are very few positive visions of the future. When Tomorrowland started, every major corporation had an amazing vision of the future and right now most corporations can barely see past the next quarter.
I'm with you but even not so cynical... What would the vision of tomorrow be? I know that nostalgia has people wanting the kinetic motion, but is that a statement of tomorrow? Or is that just nostalgia? I think a real vision is needed. I also think that they'll build a new space mountain too so we're talking a few decades from now
Tell that to the Saudis with their Neom projects. There are plenty of positive visions, but Disney has to be willing to spend some money to turn them into reality.
It's just "tomorrow" comes faster than Disney can build things.
@@SpaceShotSuper excited to see what the new Space Mountain in Tokyo is going to look like. Can’t even wrap my head around how amazing it will almost certainly be.
Honestly, it's time to tear down Tomorrowland and build a new land that won't feel dated.
If they wait any longer it will be a second frontier land
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Don't you mean "Final Frontierland"?😅
Tomorrow's Frontier Land. Frontiers on other planets.
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That's fantastic
I think the imagineers are waiting to see how Tokyo Disneyland’s Tomorrowland comes out and how it’s received.
What is Tokyo doing with it?
@@LJC123 they are tearing it down and rebuilding it starting with space mountain, which is already under construction behind the existing space mountain, which just closed.
@@LJC123 Not just the brand new Space Mountain, but we've been updating our🇯🇵 Tomorrowland on a major scale since the Star Jets were taken down to build the Bay Max's Happy Ride alongside the Big Pop back in the late 2010's. In addition to the impending Supeman (how we Japanese call Space Mountain), the O.L.C. is updating/redesigning Astro Blaster by taking it down and building a world's first Wreck it Ralph ride, which will be completed in 2026 or 27.
I think that if Fantastic Four: First Steps is successful, Disney should take some cues from it and go all in on a retrofuturistic design that highlights the 60s optimism of the future, rather than basing it on our present visions of tomorrow. Such a design could essentially future-proof the land and give them an excuse to incorporate a potential Fantastic Four attraction seamlessly into the area, as well as other suitable IP like Big Hero 6 and Tron.
This was what I was thinking when watching the video. F4 movie basically seems to embody this retro tomorrow & might also play into a world’s fair theme, since they were scientists/astronauts
Agreed.
It baffles me that Disney is willing to add entire lands to parks, and gut entire areas to build new attractions, whilst intentionally neglecting reviving attractions whose bones are still dormant in Tomorrowland. Obviously, I don’t think the Disney Parks fandom (especially west coasters) can scream any louder that we want the Peoplemover to come back. The most frustrating thing is that the decision to revive the PM would be the biggest net positive change to make to the park. The least amount of construction and renovation with the BIGGEST return on investment. It’s an easy W, yet Disney is seemingly content with the skeleton of the dead attraction looming over Tomorrowland
You can scream all you want. This company doesn't give half a crap about its customers. They simply pander to the twitter crowd and influencers.
@@gremlinfinger5964 if they pandered to influencers, then we would’ve have the peoplemover back years ago
Disney isn't Disney anymore is the biggest issue. Disneyland was born of creativity and making dreams reality. All the old timers that still barely kept hold of that are gone. Now it's run by greedy corporates that only care about quantity over quality so they can keep their annual bonuses where they are. Its been a horrible slow death of one of the most amazing institutions many of us grew up with. Kids aren't what they used to be because parents aren't what they used to be.
Congrats on 50k Brickey! Seems like the channel is really hitting its stride. Keep up the grind bro
Thanks buddy
I love the retro idea. Others would too.
I was looking at Tomorrowland Terrace behind you. We loved parking our arses there at night and listening to the tunes while chomping a burger.
When I was a kid, one of my favorite rides was Adventure Thru Inner Space. I loved the drama about being shrunk into the size of a molecule as you floated by the microscope (and yes, I waved to the eyeball 😀). Thanks for another great video!
Mission to Mars was so cool
Sorry, I got my old Tomorrowland rides names mixed up -- it was Adventure Thru Inner Space. Thanks, Monsanto, LOL! 😀
Another incredible video! I just finished your first Horizon video as well. I am so excited for a new Tomorrowland. I feel so much hope from listening to you! Keep up the positive vibes. The Magic is alive we just have to believe.
Congratulations on surpassing 50k!!
So happy for you and grateful that you kept the dream going in 2024!
Many have said it and it’s true, you by far have the best Disney content. Your respect for the history, for Walt, unparalleled!
Thanks for all the amazing content!
Thanks!
Would love to see Wall-E break into the land in a Tron-Style attraction, but I’ve been saying that for 15 years now 😂 The new Monsters Inc coaster at WDW gives me hope that this IP can still find a place in the park
Back in the late 80's and early 90's us teenagers ONLY hung out in Tomorrowland. We would go over to Fantasyland to dance at Videopolis but then head right back to Tomorrowland after fireworks. It was the ONLY place to hang out with Starcade, PeopleMover w/Tron, Space Mountain, Mission to Mars, America Sings, original Autopia, original Rockets, Adventure Thru Inner Space eventually Star Tours, CircleVision, Tomorrowland Terrance Dance Club with live music bands and DJ's, and of course Magic Eye Theater with Michael Jackson's CAPTAIN EO. What a great time as a kid!
I miss the good old days when Tomorrowland was the place to be at night with live bands, the arcade and so much activity. If you’re right, I think it will be at least 10 years before we see the change.
BRING. BACK. HALYX.
Great video! First, Congrats on reaching 50k! What an accomplishment. In regards to Tomorrowland, I believe Disney will wait and see how well the new retheme of Tomorrowland in Tokyo Disneyland will do when it opensin 2027. If that updated version of Tomorrowland is a success, especially their new Space Mountain, I believe they will be a copy of that version here. Possibly in time for Disneylands 80th birthday in 2035.
Thanks!
Love your channel and I love your idea. The merchandise I saw this summer for Tomorrowland was retro. Seems like a no brainer to me. They need to listen to their audience more.
I heard from another RUclipsr (I forgot who) Kim Irvine has dropped hints that there are already plans for a revised Tomorrowland (although I'm sure there have been several proposals). I'm crossing my fingers that Disney will finally build this in time for opening on the 75th anniversary of Disneyland.
I'm still sad that Disneyland Paris hasn't recieved any new attraction. The last real new attraction was Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast which opened in 2006. This is now 18 years without any new attraction which is kinda sad. I hope you will talk about this in a video soon.
Tomorrowland is my favorite "land" in the park. It is sad to see it decline over the past decades. Hopefully, it will get the attention it deserves shortly after Tokyo is finished in a few years. With that being said, I wanted to say thanks, for not being another Disney vlogger that goes around the park, filming random crap. It's nice to get an intelligent view of the park and its possible future "visions" on what may happen. Keep up the good work!
The Disneyland story as the IP.. that’s a genius idea and really could work. A permanently retro-styled celebration of something that should truly be celebrated. And very meta indeed! Love it.
Crushing it, Brickey Keep it up. Great collabs with OG55. Grats on 50k.
Love those dudes!
Another great video. In the recent skyway video, I really enjoyed the background behind the Skyway and it was really interesting how they integrated it with the Matterhorn.
Once the parking garage on the Eastside is complete and DCA expands into the drop off zone it us rumored that Tomorrowland would expand as well. The parade and the Railroad have a hold on this section of the property as well as a few back of house buildings. "What if" the Railroad moved further South before heading West and the parade storage and buildings went under ground, that would free up space to expand or relocate Tomorrowland and thusly give more of the current Tomorrowland to Fantasyland or a new land.
On the topic of the Disneyland railroad moving, if you look at how close the Galaxy's Edge show buildings get to the city streets (separated by only a narrow backstage access/circulation road and treeline), that is likely what Disney will want in Tomorrowland some day (where Autopia is) when they bring modern, massive show buildings in.
The current train tracks are too far in from the property line and reduce the effective acreage, and running the tracks behind the buildings is "bad show" and disrupts the service access. So what may happen is the same thing they did for Galaxy's Edge in which they re-route the train tracks farther into the parks -- like literally a bridge running across the submarine lagoon (kind of like Tony Baxter's Discovery Bay vibes) and you get to the lands and attractions at the perimeter by passing under the tracks (like going into Toontown).
Where is the new parking garage supposed to
Go ?
I like your vision for Tomorrowland. It should be "a moment in time", something like Main Street USA. I also like it being an alternate reality thing, some sort of "For All Mankind", based on the landing on the moon, a fundational moment in history. At Eurodisney, they tried something diferent with Discoveryland, a sort of Jules Verne land, but the theming was lost with the inclusion of Star Tours, Captain Eo, Autopia, etc.
What I don’t understand though is the infrastructure for rides is already there in Tomorrowland but they are instead going to have to start from scratch for these new lands. Updating Tomorrowland would be a quicker turn around and for less money
Another fascinating lecture Prof. Brickey. I’d like to take your ideas and add a slice of Marvel. The new Fantastic Four film is going to be in an alternate universe with a futuristic 60’s vibe. Kind of like the original Tomorrowland. I see a world where this esthetic becomes the basis for a renovation. Just a thought. Congratulations again on hitting 50K and I can’t wait for 100K. If you make killer content the followers will find you!!!
Thanks Jason!
tomorrowland's future lies in its past. the blueprints have been gathering dust in the disney archives for decades. anyone who actually got to visit the 1967 tomorrowland (myself included) knows how beautiful and amazing it was back then. the kinetic energy was all around you in multiple levels.a rotating building,peoplemover trains,skyway gondolas,monorails,autopia cars,submarines,rocket jets. there wasn't anywhere you could look and not see movement. that's what's missing from tomorrowland today. it's stagnated beyond belief. i'm 63 years old. i first rode the peoplemover when i was 6,and my last ride was when i was in my 30s. will i have to wait until i'm 80 to ride it again (God willing i live that long)? forget about imagineering something new. just give us back what we had with updated technology,and let the future generations see and experience walt's vision of tomorrow the way he wanted it to be.
Great video Brickey! Yes, I hope they have a plan for Tomorrowland and hope it’s a great one!
Love your idea of building up Tomorrowland itself as the IP. And I think Fantastic Four can complement that. Maybe you were hinting at that when you mentioned future IP.
A hopefully successful Marvel property inspired by Tomorrowland, with a presence in Tomorrowland will make the suits feel comfortable investing in a total land overhaul.
Great video as always!
i was totally thinking the same thing! ✨
New subscriber here really liking the content. We have been to Orlando many times and I think your idea about Disney history is a good one. I've always wanted to make the cross country trip to Disneyland because of the history that is there. There are so many things that Disneyland has that Orlando doesn't and just being in Walt's park would be a thrill.
I have so many fond memories of Tomorrowland in its heyday. Its current state makes me sad. Behind New Orleans Square, it’s my favorite land. It’s hard to explain to my kids what Tomorrowland was like when I was growing up. At night, there was no better place. I’d love to see a reboot of TL ‘67 with technology updates, but whatever happens, I just want it to get the love it deserves and return to a thing of beauty.
This. I worked in DL for 8 years, and went back a few months ago for the first time in 20. Tomorrowland just made me sad.
I can see a reworking of the whole area, doing a 'worlds fair' view of tomorrow, but they have got to gut the whole thing and start over, IMO. Something new and awesome that makes me forget what it was and be hopeful for what it will be.
Bob Iger loves making things IP based. Fantastic 4 comes out in a couple years with a retro futuristic 60s style. Combine that with the Stark Expo, and you have an easy conversion.
This is what I think too. But the Stark at the world’s fair would be Tony’s dad
As a long time citizen of Disneyland who lives out of state I have been trying to predict this stuff for years. Ever since the 90s returb. I think your right on the money with the holding on for a bit longer to blow minds. It just makes sense!
I liked the retro-Disneyland futurism they were exploring in the old Rocket Rods queue by displaying defunct ride vehicles painted to look like 3D blue prints.
It was like Tomorrowland was telling its own history of past optimism.
The whole time I was watching the event on Saturday night I was like - this is all great, but the Rides people are definitely winning out over the VIBES people this year!
Relying on a “vision of the future from the past” does solve the issue of the land eventually looking or feeling outdated, but I can’t help but feel that the true vision of Walt was to create a land that is optimistic and excited about the future, and celebrates what mankind’s innovation and hard work can accomplish.
With that, Offhand Disney put out a video a while back where he suggested using “solar punk” as a way to revamp Tomorrowland. Basically having sleek futuristic designs that incorporate lots of greenery and renewable energy, with an emphasis on conservation and sustainability as a vision of the future. I think he even suggested Wall-E as an IP that could fit well into such a land. I’ve always thought that would be such a cool approach and help keep the integrity of the land’s spirit, while still keeping it fresh for the next several decades.
It is surprising when big events like Tomorrowland don't make announcements as expected. It could mean they have something major in the works or are waiting for the right moment to reveal it. Sometimes, anticipation builds more excitement, and they might be aiming for a bigger impact with their announcement! ❤🚀
I love the idea of a retro future tomorrow land
I have always thought of Tomorrowland as a World Fair. It was so much like the NY Fair with all those sponsors and their idea of the near future. I was at the NY Fair and the first years of Tomorrow land and even before the NY Fair.... house of the future, flying saucers etc. 😎
disney doesn't care that tomorrowland sucks; they'd rather build more cruise ships
Thank you Brickey, another fantastic video, I'm a big fan of the retro celebration of Tomorrowland idea! I love that you are studying Disneyland's past to better predict its future. I think if we look at *the past* and importantly include *the decision this week* by Disney to fill in Rivers of America at WDW for a Cars attraction, what we can now predict is that *almost nothing is off the table* in terms of being removed or replaced. Disney is far less sentimental than we fans.
So I think a change we may have thought was unthinkable a week ago is quite possible...and could change Tomorrowland dramatically...Matterhorn being changed to the Frozen mountain (including dramatic changes to rock work and bobsleds become sleighs) and Arendelle getting built where the submarines and monorail and utopia is now. This is on par with what is happening at WDW.
Think about it, they are selling almost no Matterhorn merchandise or food. And wouldn't Iger want drivers along I-5 to see the Frozen. mountain instead of public domain Matterhorn? That change could really reduce the scale of Tomorrowland and change the what-happens-to-Tomorrowland equation.
Easy tiger! I just lost Rivers of America East, and now you're taking the Matterhorn away from me!!!
@@HeyBrickey Ha! To be clear I'm not rooting for this, and I'm sure the idea has been on their brainstorm board since Frozen's first week in the box office. The only thing new is we now see an anything-goes Disney approach. For me, I'd rather see Matterhorn preserved and enhanced with a prop-filled mountaineering and Yeti-expedition themed queue chalet with S.E.A. story tie-in.
I’ll tell you one thing: I love Brickey’s optimism…and that T-shirt.
To me it is painfully obvious that they are waiting for the new Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain to age out of exclusivity period to redo the entirety of Tomorrowland including new space mountain.
I remember how tomorrow land was in the early 1970’s mission to the moon, Adventure through inner space, circle vision, the beloved people mover. It was truly magical to a child’s eyes. I miss it!
Your answer is Fantastic 4... Assuming it's successful at the box office. The intellectual properties of Tron Legacy and the Tomorrowland film didn't quite make the numbers at the box office to justify any Tomorrowland additions.
Also have to remember that Disneyland has many international guests, not only locals regularly visiting the park. So you have to keep some recognisability to meet the expectations of those guests looking for the 'Disneyland' experience. Space Mountain is a perfect example... If I was travelling internationally I'd be excited to ride the original Space Mountain experience or even Hyperspace Mountain… But I'd be disappointed if it was the Ghost Galaxy Halloween overlay.
I would love to see Tomorrowland updated, and actually made a multi-level land. I dont know why Disney isn't building upwards towards the sky, but they should.
I’ll note that playing behind your description of “Disneyland as its own IP”, the Tomorrowland loop (in Disneyland!) was playing “If You Had Wings” from MK’s Tomorrowland …which kinda tracks with your thesis.
Great attention to detail
All I can say is..... DAMN IT!!!!! It needs help so bad. Walt would be sad and upset...😢
Love the shirt also love the passion for the parks.
Yay! It’s Hey Brickey! 😎🏰 Wow “Sorrowland” 😜 Nice!
Tear out Tomorrowland and build Villainsland at this point
Peter, "the clapping guy" energizes even Sorrowland.❤
“Occam's razor, or the principle of parsimony, tells us that the simplest, most elegant explanation is usually the one closest to the truth.”. So to me the simplest explanation is that Disney has decided it's too expensive to update Tomorrowland properly so they just decided to do nothing.
Love the creative thinking and problem solving - we can only hope
Your vlogs are fantastic, I sure hope you’re right and Tomorrowland becomes Disneyland retro IP. In the meantime, bring back the shows
I just wanted to say I love your videos - thank you.
I think there’s a relatively simple explanation. With next year being the 70th they didn’t want to add more large scale park closures. So I believe that the next D23 will have big announcements in regards to tomorrowland once they’ve passed the 70th anniversary and can focus on refurbishment and reimagining areas of the park.
I think you did an excellent job explaining the theme of the land and how it should be… I think we’ve all been thinking something similar… It needs to be a retro themed cohesive land, and who better to be the ambassador and mascot and guide through the land, other than Walt Disney himself… it should be a cohesive themed retro late 1950s land… Exploring advanced transportation and other things that will provide tremendousbenefit to humanity … excellent job in explaining a great vision for that land… That’s the only way it could be done. You can’t keep up with technology. It has to be tomorrow land of the past for the future… The only way it would work… It would be brilliant it would be beautiful.
Considering the amount of work being done in DCA and the new expansions ahead for Disneyland Forward. I see new lands being the priority. Disney wants to utilize all the new acquired land now with new worlds (first) because Tomorrowland is “good enough for now”. I imagine they want the Tron IP to grow more in popularity with the new upcoming film and if it’s successful enough I can see it easily taking over for Tomorrowland. If I were to make a prediction for (Best Case Scenario) on breaking ground for new construction/remodeling/etc. it would be the year 2027/2028 or 2029-31 with Tomorrowland finally being something truly impressive!
Hey Brickey, Love your videos!
Congrats on 50K!
That spear thing at the top of tomorow land??? DO NOT GET RID OF IT! I like the aestetic of it, it fits tomorow land
Used to be a must do land in my youth. Not so much anymore. Feels more like a ghost town. Much love and congrats Brickey on your success.
Judging by the amount of people in the background walking through all of the shots, Brickey has TomorrowLand to himself 😂
Brickey, this is an immensely intelligent and thoughtful theory of what they're planning. I appreciate your willingness to take these ideas and put them "on paper" so to speak.
I don't know, however, if the current leadership of Disney has that level of foresight, thought, and imagination to utilize Tomorrowland as its own meta story of Disneyland and Walt's vision. The current storytelling machine is so focused on conservative money making ideas and the parks seem to reflect that philosophy. D23, specifically the Horizons park session, didn't do much to alleviate that although I understand that their immediate response is necessary with Epic Universal next door.
I hope we'll be talking about this in 10-15 years in the ways you've described.
Thanks. I think you're pretty correct, too, with your breakdown.
A hello from Santa Monica! 😊
Tomorrowland used to be the life of park!! Everyone wanted to be there up till after the end of rocket rods really…there was so much to do and so much fun!! I feel like this commitment they have made to make everything IP based is setting themselves up for failure, it also creates a conflict with the design and theme of the park and lands as a whole!!! The more pointless IP’s being added makes me less and less interested in going to the parks, everything I enjoy is gone, and the new designs and concepts with IP’s do not work as a whole…the parks are slowly imploding with bad decisions and with leaders struggling to hold on to their jobs and justifying their positions
It’s time to remodel Tomorrowland. Move Star Tours to Star Wars-land, keep Space Mountain , leave the subs and Autopia alone. and reconstruct the place.
Hello Sir, they have no idea what they want to do with that area. Yes, I believe you have a good point. With today's tech, video walls, projector tech, there should always be new tech in there. Like a NES type area full time, you come in and come out to show what is out there, Space X type stuff. Great video
I’m curious to see Tomorrowland eventually change. Hopefully they’re keeping the cards close! Yeah I agree that we may not see anything in 10-15 years. Thanks Brickey for keeping the conversation going!
GENIUS!!! Disneyland as an IP!!!🙌 That solves so many problems!!!
Outstanding work Brickey!
Attempting constructive criticism. I like your videos but sometimes they feel like they could be edited by 1/3 to feel less repetitive.
This video is broken down into 1) the Tomorrowland problem 2) Disney focusing on capacity through expansion 3) the Disney IP idea.
Breaking it down, 3 minutes are spent bagging on Tomorrowland, not just stating issues, but going negative (e.g. sorrowland, broken, half dead). I know it has problems and needs love, but the video tone feels like an overly negative vibe. That negativity continues to be sprinkled in throughout the video (e.g. rotting away, maybe the future dies at Disneyland, Disney ignoring fans) and contributes to the feeling of repetitiveness and hopelessness.
The discussion of prioritizing new capacity and DCA parity is good (3 min), but then the next 2 minutes goes back to the problems of Tomorrowland (makes it feel repetitive), how Disney has no plans for Tomorrowland, and how it will be over a decade before any updates are likely to occur.
The last 6 minutes are where you focus on the Disney IP idea, which is good, but there is a feeling that you are undercutting your own idea by going back to the ‘Disney has no plan’ talk. Just state your positive idea and don’t go negative or negate the blue sky idea by hedging.
So, what could have been a great video about room for improvement at Tomorrowland, why Tomorrowland is not currently a focus, and an idea for the future that could have left viewers hopeful, turned into a video that ignores the positives, tells us why things are not going to get better, and then describes an idea while implying that Disney will likely not do it.
How are you able to shoot all the footage without anyone in it with you? Great work Brickey!!!
As a generation x growing up in the 1980s with the original Star Wars trilogy, tomorrow land was always my favorite. I can still remember riding space mountain over and over again. I always envisioned a type of Star Wars land but galaxy’s edge ruined that. Then I envisioned a Tomorrowland that looked like the fifth element. I never liked the mid century modern style. Now I think we should do a Tomorrowland based on Tron. I really miss the starcade and I think a recreation of Flynn’s arcade would be really cool. Buzz lightyear and pizza planet should be moved to DCA with the other Pixar properties. Star tours can be rethemed to almost anything. Autopia should have been rethemed to cars years ago and the submarine ride should be repurposed.
One of my biggest disappointments for the revival of Tomorrowland, given how dependent Disney is on IP now, is that the movie Tomorrowland wasn't a huge hit to become a huge multi-film franchise. I heard at one point they were also planning a Tomorrowland anthology series on Disney+, I'd still love to see that. I am so glad that I got to experience Tomorrowland between 1967 and 1987 (when "Adventure Thru Inner Space" was still there) I absolutely loved it and I am thankful for the memories of that at least.
I I am time stamping this comment at 2:58. My thoughts about why tomorrowland is sorrow land is because they need to build up the capacity elsewhere in order to be able to totally utterly redo the land. The only thing that I am scratching my head about is why there were no big announcements at all for Disneyland. DCA got all of the glory they need it but also they have so many more attractions that can eat people in ways that Disneyland doesn't.
Dude! Love Peter Tu!
I've got to believe that once the new lands are built in the parking lots as part of the Disneyland Forward project, they'll attack Tomorrowland as they'll be able to maintain capacity park wide while Tomorrowland gets closed in whole for a few years.
Tomorrowland being used to represent the chronological history of the parks is a really interesting idea. You could say something poetic, like how the accomplishments of decades past are what lay the foundation for what’s yet to come. while the rest of the park evolves, Tomorrowland can be used to preserve the legacies of lands/attractions in an archive that guests can still interact with.
TomorrowLand feels like what I remember Six Flags feeling like (haven't been there in decades). It's the most failed land in the entire resort.
Each land feels extremely immersive. Star Wars Land, Marvel, Cars, Redwoods... they each feel like a totally unique space, removed from Anaheim. TomorrowLand feels like a mixed-up space with contrasting styles without a single "Feel".
Unfortunately, the future doesn't have a single style Disney can pull from.
Some Toy Story, some Star Wars, some Nemo, some 1950s style.
Abandon Tomorrowland totally, and just put up a sign that says "coming soon".
Love your ideas!
Thanks
First it’s time to change its name. Like Disneyland Paris. We have reached our tomorrow to start calling it Discoveryland. Plus that name will match the lands connection for the Disneyland Hotel towers.
The best story that could be told in Tomorrowland could be Imagineering itself.
I think one of the biggest problems is that we have more recently gone through such a technological boom that it's hard to put something there that won't be instantly out of date. I think it would be interesting if they were to make a ride that looks at how the theme park technology has changed and advanced over the years and what it could be in the future.
Brickey! I think you've got something there! Tomorrow Land could totally be re-retrofied- mid century. The best parts already are, even if they don't exist anymore (People Mover & Voyage thru inner space). Keep the faith Brickey!
I liked the D23 announcements-especially the Walt Disney Opera house show, however, I too was disappointed in not hearing an announcement for a Tomorrowland re model. I wish they would revert Tomorrowland in using the mid century modern aesthetic that it once had in its heyday. When the land had moving objects decked out in primary colors. Along with flair from Mary’s Blair’s MCM artwork. The remodel should also include a form of the People Mover. It’s sad because Tomorrowland currently state looks like a dead mall.
Maybe they will wait until they rebuild the Tokyo Disney Tomorrowland.
A new peoplemover would be great /In a differnt track
When I was a kid, Tomorrowland was pretty fascinating. I still remember the Adventure Through Inner Space ride, Mission to Mars, Captain EO, People Mover, Circle Vision, Skyway, & other things that were there. Even the old Mary Blair mural with the satellites. It was one of my favorite lands. However, Disneyland has pretty much neglected the area for years. They tried to revamp it in the later 90's, but it ended up looking kind of "cheesy". Stupid Rocket Rods idea ruined the People Mover track. I hope that Disney has a major revamp in mind 'cause that land needs to be reworked badly. 🧐
Well, they did do "Saving Mr. Banks", which was fairly successful, although certainly not a blockbuster. That's Walt specific. Or maybe the Imagineers are going to break out the big guns and really go to town with something spectacularly robotic? Something forward of "Forward". Ah, I am worried that we won't know for a good while.
P'haps some alternate history? Oh, I know you were able to fit the Frozen land into one of the "Forward" parking lots, but that didn't get announced. Oh well, the info coming out of D23 was still cool. And so are your analyses.
Yes, I know that I miss the Halloween overlay ride: Space Mountain: Ghost Galaxy here at Disneyland, but I have a new idea for the Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. Since they put the Christmas overlay during the Mickey's Very Mery Christmas Party, so during the Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween, I want them to do as what they did not change like I did a long time ago: the Halloween overlay of the Space Mountain: Ghost Galaxy attraction for the legacy of two versions in California and Hong Kong.
I see that being doable because if they stuck to the future it’s would constantly have to change. I kinda wish tomorrow land focused on Star Wars but even that wouldn’t have been the best fit. I just wonder if they focused on the retro Disney if it would popular. I look forward to seeing what’s to come!
Here's the thing: Disney does have plans for Tomorrowland in the near future, however, it'll be during other things. Parts of Tomorrowland have to be shut down to restore and repair and reopen certain attractions.... for example, one slow attraction that operates overhead because they're going to bring 2 versions of it with the expansion.
Brickey, I think you are spot on…. This will be 5, 10, 15 years away. 😢
If I had to guess, somewhere in the 8 to 10 range….
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Is it really fair to feel, this way inside?
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Someday, somebody's gonna make you want to
Find a bulldozer and say goodbye
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Walk on by and make you cry?
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Tomorrowland itself already exists as IP, although tbh I've never seen it and forgot it existed until just now.
Autopia is easy enough to retheme: in the world of tomorrow, cars will just be autonomous EVs, while manually driving ICEs is reserved for sport or recreation. And here is the one place you can experience that.
Some suggestions for Tomorrowland: IPs wreck it Ralph, WALL-E, strange worlds, Tron. Food (because it's my least favorite spot in the park) turn Galactic Grill into an automat and Pizza Planet into a conveyor belt restaurant with robots that bring out drinks like some sushi bars
You are so dang good at explaining stuff lol. I think just like what they're doing with movies, making sequels to extend the stories of already successful franchises, they're playing it safe at the parks too, making attractions and lands based on successful franchises. Tomorrowland will get "fixed," but first, they're doing what will 100% work.
Feels like Magic Kingdoms Rivers of America and Disneylands Tomorrowland have a lot on common, based upon lack of upkeep that you mention in both videos
In Magic Kingdom is the same issue. But, with some of the other announcements this week I could see Monsters Inc Laugh Floor moving to Hollywood Studios and the potential to close the speedway if they open that style attraction for the Cars family ride. That (plus the already empty Stitch's great escape) would leave tons of room to reimagine a crazy cool new Tomorrowland in FL.