The algorithm probably connected me to your videos because I was watching a Comanche, Willie Pekah on the TulsaLibrary channel, explain Comanche bow and arrow construction. In the course of his talk he was lamenting how he was concerned that all his knowledge was passing into oblivion because of lack of interest. It would be interesting for the two of you to meet and compare notes on building bows and arrows and techniques in general. I’ve had a lifelong interest in Indians in general and Comanche in particular. My father’s side of the family was from western Oklahoma and I hunted as a kid along the Washita. None of my relatives were much into me being so interested in Indians but they have been in my blood since my boyhood. I greatly enjoy your channel. In a world of over-tech you are a breath of fresh air.
Dude, this is exactly how I started making bows, basically just trying to turn anything around me into something I could shoot Arrows with. Then I got sucked into the perfect Longbow making stuff. I forgot what I liked about archery, "just pullin it back and lettin it go." Thanks for bringing me back!
I was lucky enough to have a papaw that was taught by his papaw how to make Cherokee bows. We are federally recognized Eastern Band Cherokee, he taught my cousins and I how to make bows. I have made them from hickory, black locust, and oasage. I made a 36 inch Comanche style bow from osage and it has taken on a bunch of set. It had a few knots in it but I just rode with it. I have said it many times too brother "oh what have I done" but it all works out in the end haha
Up here in the great basin, my bow wood of choice is Rocky mountain juniper. Ive never had the privilege of working Osage. Juniper has tiny micro growth rings. Most staves in my stash came from 500 year old + branches. You have to back juniper with rawhide, sinew or any other hard backing or it will break. They have good compression strength and nearly zero tension strength. I have achieved weights above 75lbs. Its a really heavy arrow design is how you harness its full power. Its red dogwood, chokecherry or stone maple is what i make my arrows out of. Obsidian points. And sage grouse, mallard or canada goose fletching. Dental floss string. It's mostly rough grouse and squril i hunt every year. Congratulations on that little bow surviving tillering and stringing. I know how difficult, exhausting and rewarding this is.
I live in Australia and for my first few years of building bows i had to settle with wild plum, elm ash and black locust, which actually make very capable weapons, especially black locust. But just over a year ago, i was lucky enough to find a line of over a hundred old osage orange trees planted by the old timers back in the 1800s and even more, younger trees grown from the dropped fruit😅. it was literally like finding a goldmine , its hard work harvesting the stuff tho, its got some nasty inch long thorns and because the tangled way it grows, its almost guaranteed to get hung up, 😂 bloody worth it tho, best bow wood on the planet along with yew apparently.
I’ve made 2 bows out of mamossa one 48” and one 58” 45 to50 lbs at 28”s they shoot really well like lite and powerful. The only regret I didn’t dry they out for long but over all I was thrilled they turned out without breaking.
I started with a 72 inch seasoned osage stave and ended up with a 64" longbow it took a bunch of heat bending and I went a little past my target weight. It ended up 41lbs at my draw length. That's a really nice piece of osage. I had about 50hrs total in my first bow. Thanks for making these videos
I built bows for hunting I used hardwood but after I get my first Osage stave I don’t want to use any other wood because Osage orange is the best choice for build bows I build 6 bows and I’m very happy with the results
Man I would love to maybe buy a stave, totally appreciate this video as a native fella, my culture has all but lost our regional knowledge on crazy hardwoods for bows sadly. Beautiful work man.
Im 63 years old and i have built around a dozen bows, all while in my late 20 s early 30s. But there was no internet back then, so everything was learned the hard way. the more bows i made the shorter i kept makeing them,the,y might look like a kids bow but they are deadly. I am impresed at how fast they can shoot with only a 2o or 21 inch draw. The last bow i made was a recurve around 40 inches long the limbs flexed all the way. I heavely sinued the bow had a string made only to find out the lower limb twisted, what a bummer all that work, that was the last one. Even 35 years old those bows still shoot good,what i really want is to go hog hunting spot and stalk with stone points.
Nice work! I just finished a 26" 5 curve bow for my son. Working on a 34" composite horn bow right bow. Trying to get my camera up and running again and new video editing program figured out to start posted stuff again(mainly my son and I to look back on for memories)
That's pretty amazing. I shoot a Bear Magnum Recurve, I'm comfortable with it a 50lbs, I think it would take me a LOT of work to shot 60 lbs FROM THE CHEST at that! And by the way, I have cut Osage orange, I do know that was a LOT of work. Congratulations on sticking with it!
Ive made bows when i was 11 years old now im getting back to it. I didnt have any power tools and stuff but i made really good arrows and bows but i was never good at target shooting cuz i nver realised that i have to tilt the bow so the arrow wont flop
Looks like the center of the bow contributes to the action, rather than it having a large stiff handle. I guess that also plays a part in how such a short bow can perform like that? Awesome work!
4:32 Just built a 25 inch bow out of blue or white ash(Im not sure its a branch off of a tree in my yard) and it works pretty well(for a first non breaking bow) it’s just not straight because the stave I started with wasn’t, but I didn’t think it would turn out this good🤣🤣
Great content as usual!! If anyone is in the uk and wants to make a plains style bow but has no access to osage, hawthorn is a killer bow wood for this design.
Tristan I Took a bow build class 2 years ago with Master Bow builder Tony Pike out of Nevada Mo. It took me 3 days sun up to sundown conservatively while working outside chasing the ring on a 62" Osage bow stave with a draw knife. Finished on day six. 52" lbs at 28" draw pull. Afterwards I took his Atlatl class and walked away with a nice set. If anyone is interested in taking his classes he offers them 2 times a year. @Ancient Wisdom Survival.
I made a bow I saw a Cherokee dude build on RUclips. I used a couple thin bamboo reeds and twisted them together, tied a few rings of stings going up it, then wrapped a spiral of string up it and a big wrap for the handle. not too powerful but could hunt small squirrels and stuff and could be good fishing bow. real cool bow idea cause all I used was a few free bamboo reeds, and 1 spool of nylon string from Home Depot.
I have a chunk of yew that I cut off of my dad's property, close to the Mt Hood national forest in Oregon. I'm still seasoning it, and can't wait for it to be ready to carve! Good luck to you and yours.
that's incredible for such a short piece of wood. it really whacks the target. only question is accuracy. can you be consistent with it. we know the Comanche were dead on with it. just with traditional bow shooting theory of anchor points, vertical bow etc. this is just SO different
Oho my fellow human in life you have to make mistakes to perfect art you have to making bows and if it doesn't work then find another tree or learn about trees and which one is good and you can find
I guess no need for a arrow rest? I think I personally would need a some to have a consistent shot ... but I'm not nearly as inclined to instinctive shooting as you. Love your videos.
I almost bought a very short bow like this. I also want to make a very short bow I watched a video of an old native American one time and he was talking about how most hunting bows were very small
Bro your video are so good but I want to say you you are a good hunter please make video on how to improve target with arrows please make video love from India
Would I be right in thinking that such a short bow would transfer less energy to the arrow than a longer bow of the same draw weight? And it would be harder to shoot accurately over longer distances? Would be interesting to see the limits of this mini-bow tested.
Yes the stroke length matters when transferring energy. That said a deer can be shot through with a #45 bow. Ryan Gill at @huntprimitive9918 hunted bisons with a #55 bow with a 21" draw length. Check out his channel it is awesome and very educational.
В детстве дедушка сделал мне лук из клёна и капроновой нити . И стрелы тоже из клёна наконечники у них был из гвоздей . Оперения не было . В сарай втыкались хорошо
have u looked into all the theory crafting and techniques, that Native American bows and archers used..? its quite interesting and unique, and they also had lost tech, that allowed them an incredible rate of fire, and that while moving or in various positions etc.. a much more instinctive style of shooting as well.. if i could make, and had multiple indian style bows..i wod def look into training some of those techniques.. fast shooting multiple arrows accuratly while moving.. etc. Lars Anderson has also done amazing work and showcasing on various shooting tech n stuff. but im guessing if u an archer u prolly know this stuff.. i guess maybe as an info for others.. its also sad when stuff, skillz n tech like this gets lost.. cuz the commanches def had some amazing shooting skillz. feats that seem shear impossible. (of course most indian shooting wasnt very high powered, or far distance etc. but more close range moving and firing multiple arrows in quick succesion, type shooting style. very different than almost all other forms of successful archery in the past. and seemingly a sweetspot between powerful and small hunting style bows. also how much easier they were to make, then say european longbows, or other types, or composite bows etc.. usually i wouldnt expect a small indian bow to be very usefull in human combat, but apperantly they found a sweetspot. and of course, what shud never be unconsidered, is the huge amount of shooting and training and indian would have had, starting at young ages, shooting everyday, in an instinctive type of way. so they had skills and mastery that noone today has. as well as a style of shooting that is very different from how modern archery is done and tought. so u dont even really have folks, growing up learning to shoot with the technique that the indians used.. making it very hard to judge wich is " supierior". anyways, archery is such a dope strangly pysche connected past time. can only recommend to anyone. it has something so primal in it, u can feel the joy and passion a top hit gives u, like our folks n ancestors for ages, had.. being that a succesful shot meant survival, joy, pleasure, and a base to sustain life for u and ur family.
I'm with you on that one. Built a long bow which served me for four years and then it broke. I haven't really used thick enough trees. Blame the material!
Website sold out before I could even get the video uploaded. Thanks guys!
When will get more man I stared to prep for wats coming so I'm very interested
Is there a way to order a bow with case and quiver from you?
Is there a source for seasoned bow staves with wide growth rings and without knots for someone who is making one for the first time?
The algorithm probably connected me to your videos because I was watching a Comanche, Willie Pekah on the TulsaLibrary channel, explain Comanche bow and arrow construction. In the course of his talk he was lamenting how he was concerned that all his knowledge was passing into oblivion because of lack of interest. It would be interesting for the two of you to meet and compare notes on building bows and arrows and techniques in general. I’ve had a lifelong interest in Indians in general and Comanche in particular. My father’s side of the family was from western Oklahoma and I hunted as a kid along the Washita. None of my relatives were much into me being so interested in Indians but they have been in my blood since my boyhood. I greatly enjoy your channel. In a world of over-tech you are a breath of fresh air.
I believe he recently passed away would’ve been very cool to actually meet him. Thanks for watching!
Dude, this is exactly how I started making bows, basically just trying to turn anything around me into something I could shoot Arrows with. Then I got sucked into the perfect Longbow making stuff. I forgot what I liked about archery, "just pullin it back and lettin it go." Thanks for bringing me back!
That was a sick shot from the truck at the start!!! W
I was lucky enough to have a papaw that was taught by his papaw how to make Cherokee bows. We are federally recognized Eastern Band Cherokee, he taught my cousins and I how to make bows. I have made them from hickory, black locust, and oasage. I made a 36 inch Comanche style bow from osage and it has taken on a bunch of set. It had a few knots in it but I just rode with it. I have said it many times too brother "oh what have I done" but it all works out in the end haha
Nice work! All ways been amazed at the ingenuity of the native people! Never built a bow but have a recurve and shoot instinctively!
Its amazing how much stress Osage can handle, superb bow!
Up here in the great basin, my bow wood of choice is Rocky mountain juniper. Ive never had the privilege of working Osage.
Juniper has tiny micro growth rings. Most staves in my stash came from 500 year old + branches.
You have to back juniper with rawhide, sinew or any other hard backing or it will break.
They have good compression strength and nearly zero tension strength.
I have achieved weights above 75lbs. Its a really heavy arrow design is how you harness its full power.
Its red dogwood, chokecherry or stone maple is what i make my arrows out of. Obsidian points. And sage grouse, mallard or canada goose fletching. Dental floss string.
It's mostly rough grouse and squril i hunt every year.
Congratulations on that little bow surviving tillering and stringing. I know how difficult, exhausting and rewarding this is.
I live in Australia and for my first few years of building bows i had to settle with wild plum, elm ash and black locust, which actually make very capable weapons, especially black locust. But just over a year ago, i was lucky enough to find a line of over a hundred old osage orange trees planted by the old timers back in the 1800s and even more, younger trees grown from the dropped fruit😅. it was literally like finding a goldmine , its hard work harvesting the stuff tho, its got some nasty inch long thorns and because the tangled way it grows, its almost guaranteed to get hung up, 😂 bloody worth it tho, best bow wood on the planet along with yew apparently.
I’ve made 2 bows out of mamossa one 48” and one 58” 45 to50 lbs at 28”s they shoot really well like lite and powerful. The only regret I didn’t dry they out for long but over all I was thrilled they turned out without breaking.
I started with a 72 inch seasoned osage stave and ended up with a 64" longbow it took a bunch of heat bending and I went a little past my target weight. It ended up 41lbs at my draw length. That's a really nice piece of osage. I had about 50hrs total in my first bow. Thanks for making these videos
I built bows for hunting I used hardwood but after I get my first Osage stave I don’t want to use any other wood because Osage orange is the best choice for build bows I build 6 bows and I’m very happy with the results
This is one of the most amazing bows I've seen! Great build!
Gotta be a single man...love it :). Good job and great video...thank you!
Man I would love to maybe buy a stave, totally appreciate this video as a native fella, my culture has all but lost our regional knowledge on crazy hardwoods for bows sadly. Beautiful work man.
Im 63 years old and i have built around a dozen bows, all while in my late 20 s early 30s. But there was no internet back then, so everything was learned the hard way. the more bows i made the shorter i kept makeing them,the,y might look like a kids bow but they are deadly. I am impresed at how fast they can shoot with only a 2o or 21 inch draw. The last bow i made was a recurve around 40 inches long the limbs flexed all the way. I heavely sinued the bow had a string made only to find out the lower limb twisted, what a bummer all that work, that was the last one. Even 35 years old those bows still shoot good,what i really want is to go hog hunting spot and stalk with stone points.
This is really cool. You seem like you'd be an awesome friend.
Nice work! I just finished a 26" 5 curve bow for my son. Working on a 34" composite horn bow right bow. Trying to get my camera up and running again and new video editing program figured out to start posted stuff again(mainly my son and I to look back on for memories)
This is awesome! I love this style short bow I want to make my own so bad! Thank you for posting this! Please more bow builds if possible
That's pretty amazing. I shoot a Bear Magnum Recurve, I'm comfortable with it a 50lbs, I think it would take me a LOT of work to shot 60 lbs FROM THE CHEST at that! And by the way, I have cut Osage orange, I do know that was a LOT of work. Congratulations on sticking with it!
Ive made bows when i was 11 years old now im getting back to it. I didnt have any power tools and stuff but i made really good arrows and bows but i was never good at target shooting cuz i nver realised that i have to tilt the bow so the arrow wont flop
Do you know the draw weight these bows tended to have? Also what are the dimensions of the bow that you use in your other videos?
Love these videos! You do an exceptional job.
Looks like the center of the bow contributes to the action, rather than it having a large stiff handle. I guess that also plays a part in how such a short bow can perform like that?
Awesome work!
Muy buen trabajo , le sacaste un líbrame increíble a ese cortito , felicitaciones..
Very well done. I can actually follow it. Can't wait to start my project.
4:32 Just built a 25 inch bow out of blue or white ash(Im not sure its a branch off of a tree in my yard) and it works pretty well(for a first non breaking bow) it’s just not straight because the stave I started with wasn’t, but I didn’t think it would turn out this good🤣🤣
Looks like your making a crossbow prod
Great content as usual!! If anyone is in the uk and wants to make a plains style bow but has no access to osage, hawthorn is a killer bow wood for this design.
Tristan I Took a bow build class 2 years ago with Master Bow builder Tony Pike out of Nevada Mo. It took me 3 days sun up to sundown conservatively while working outside chasing the ring on a 62" Osage bow stave with a draw knife. Finished on day six. 52" lbs at 28" draw pull. Afterwards I took his Atlatl class and walked away with a nice set. If anyone is interested in taking his classes he offers them 2 times a year. @Ancient Wisdom Survival.
Outstanding!!!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!!!!
I made a bow I saw a Cherokee dude build on RUclips. I used a couple thin bamboo reeds and twisted them together, tied a few rings of stings going up it, then wrapped a spiral of string up it and a big wrap for the handle. not too powerful but could hunt small squirrels and stuff and could be good fishing bow. real cool bow idea cause all I used was a few free bamboo reeds, and 1 spool of nylon string from Home Depot.
Bro, I throughly enjoyed this video.
I made a primtive stick bow with just a knife it pulls 20 pounds at 20 inches. First bow ever
Great video mate. Amazing little weapon
This was very interesting thank you😊
Where did you purchase the knife you used in the video???? Much appreciated love your channel
I have good hickory where I live and made some good bows with it they is no Osage here and hickory is good bow wood
I have a chunk of yew that I cut off of my dad's property, close to the Mt Hood national forest in Oregon. I'm still seasoning it, and can't wait for it to be ready to carve! Good luck to you and yours.
Очень познавательно!
The original snub-nosed 38!
that's incredible for such a short piece of wood. it really whacks the target. only question is accuracy. can you be consistent with it. we know the Comanche were dead on with it. just with traditional bow shooting theory of anchor points, vertical bow etc. this is just SO different
non steel crossbow bows are like this so its not THAT surprising but this was very cool
Incredible work! I just uploaded a few videos with my comanche bow! I hope you like it!
2:08 true but it is so much easier and faster when you use specialised tools!
Nice little bow! If you're into the shorties you should look into the sinew backed yew and incense cedar bows of Northern California.
My first bow sucked, but I eventually made several hickory bows over 80 pounds and had to find people who could shoot them
How can I get a Comanche bow
Oho my fellow human in life you have to make mistakes to perfect art you have to making bows and if it doesn't work then find another tree or learn about trees and which one is good and you can find
greetings every1.thats incredible,fantastic
I once made an ultra tiny bow and the power surprised me
Excellent!
Would the bow be used in war? Mongols used short bows on horseback.
It seems like these are specialized for hunting.
A bow that can shoot through a deer can shoot through a human too. Medieval war bows were heavy because they went up against steel armor.
Trying to buold a flat bow from ash but the widenes and the crown is to stiff so i wil try to thin it out to makw it more like a Comanche bow
Hey Tristan you said you had more Osage orange staves I've always wanted to try to make a bow with my drawing knife I've only made board bows
I guess no need for a arrow rest? I think I personally would need a some to have a consistent shot ... but I'm not nearly as inclined to instinctive shooting as you. Love your videos.
I almost bought a very short bow like this. I also want to make a very short bow I watched a video of an old native American one time and he was talking about how most hunting bows were very small
@tristinriddle101 do you use regular length arrows? or do you use shorter ones for camanche style bow?
Looking forward to getting a bow at that length.
Where do you get your bow staves? I found some on eBay and attempted one a year or so ago. Used a draw knife.
How much would you pay for one? I sell stuff on ebay and am always outside and know where theres tons of osage orange
Just trying to see if its worth it or not to go gather and split it. Also what size and length would you be interested in.
That's a comparable pull weight to a modern English longbow. I'd like to see how the same style bow made out of English Yew wood would compare
Bro your video are so good but I want to say you you are a good hunter please make video on how to improve target with arrows please make video love from India
Very cool… Did you tan the Buck skin yourself?
Nice!!
Excelente,muito bom...
✨It is LongBow✨ 👶👏
You know exactly what Comanche bows are and arrows,,,don't let no-one say else
Would I be right in thinking that such a short bow would transfer less energy to the arrow than a longer bow of the same draw weight? And it would be harder to shoot accurately over longer distances? Would be interesting to see the limits of this mini-bow tested.
Yes the stroke length matters when transferring energy. That said a deer can be shot through with a #45 bow.
Ryan Gill at @huntprimitive9918 hunted bisons with a #55 bow with a 21" draw length. Check out his channel it is awesome and very educational.
I built a osage bow and it broke in the tillering maybe i did let it dry enough. Need to try again 😮
В детстве дедушка сделал мне лук из клёна и капроновой нити . И стрелы тоже из клёна наконечники у них был из гвоздей . Оперения не было . В сарай втыкались хорошо
Any interest In Slingshots, always have enjoyed my slingshots. Feel they kind of go hand in hand with my Bows
Just throwing it out there
Where can I find a Osage stave to make a bow with?
a hedge tree
Hi I’m interested in building a bow have u created a Penobscot bow
have u looked into all the theory crafting and techniques, that Native American bows and archers used..? its quite interesting and unique, and they also had lost tech, that allowed them an incredible rate of fire, and that while moving or in various positions etc.. a much more instinctive style of shooting as well.. if i could make, and had multiple indian style bows..i wod def look into training some of those techniques.. fast shooting multiple arrows accuratly while moving.. etc. Lars Anderson has also done amazing work and showcasing on various shooting tech n stuff. but im guessing if u an archer u prolly know this stuff.. i guess maybe as an info for others.. its also sad when stuff, skillz n tech like this gets lost.. cuz the commanches def had some amazing shooting skillz. feats that seem shear impossible. (of course most indian shooting wasnt very high powered, or far distance etc. but more close range moving and firing multiple arrows in quick succesion, type shooting style. very different than almost all other forms of successful archery in the past. and seemingly a sweetspot between powerful and small hunting style bows. also how much easier they were to make, then say european longbows, or other types, or composite bows etc.. usually i wouldnt expect a small indian bow to be very usefull in human combat, but apperantly they found a sweetspot. and of course, what shud never be unconsidered, is the huge amount of shooting and training and indian would have had, starting at young ages, shooting everyday, in an instinctive type of way. so they had skills and mastery that noone today has. as well as a style of shooting that is very different from how modern archery is done and tought. so u dont even really have folks, growing up learning to shoot with the technique that the indians used.. making it very hard to judge wich is " supierior". anyways, archery is such a dope strangly pysche connected past time. can only recommend to anyone. it has something so primal in it, u can feel the joy and passion a top hit gives u, like our folks n ancestors for ages, had.. being that a succesful shot meant survival, joy, pleasure, and a base to sustain life for u and ur family.
That looks a lot like Osage. Is it?
I tried building a bow from Osage and it ended up breaking in half and I made a wooden machete from one and a knife from the other for my kids
How can I order one an Osage with a dozen arrows? I’m a 26 draw @60 lb?
Maybe better to do sinew backing if you dont trust the nock? And use another piece for non-backing bow?
Please make another bow
Do you wil hunt with that bow and wil make a move?
I build a bow for a crossbow from the slatted frame of a bed. About 40 inch long. Not very powerfull.
Bruh the fence trust you with it's life
Brother made a rope through bamboo
I want one
😄👍
my bow build goes terrible every time
I'm with you on that one. Built a long bow which served me for four years and then it broke. I haven't really used thick enough trees. Blame the material!
I’ve lost count on how many bows I had to cut down due to unforeseen issues, always made me Cringe 😂
What are you making your arrows out of