100% agree on your evaluation. I purchased a Bobcat Quick Cat this year. Back issues completely went away. The maneuverability and compactness of the stander over my Scag Tiger Cat is no comparison. Great video 👍🏽
At work we have X mark 60" commercial mowers and love them. But this season we just got a toro stander 60" and man I love it. Way more efficient and if you need to get off and pick shit up its quick. Better for slopes to because you can put the step up and walk behind it. My opinion. Its nice with the suspension standing plate
it's interesting some people say the seat gives them back stress. i threw out my back for the first time in my life 2 or 3 winters ago ( and only had a repeat once or twice since, thank God ), and bought an old gravely 60 sit last season for larger properties ( some of them annoyingly bumpy ). it's my most used machine ( besides a 48 walk ), and i haven't noticed any extra stress on my back. ...also the safeties have been bypassed, so all i have to do is put on the brake and flip the paddles, and i'm on and off for trash and object pickup in no time 😅 but obviously that's not a recommended feature for any mower. i have noticed the straggler issue, and i either have to cut slower, or double/triple cut ( on smaller properties, no double cutting huge yards ), and _still_ occasionally get popups. maybe i'll change out the g6's for a set of scag hi's and see if they cut any better 🤔🤔 what's the difference in horsepower between your two mowers?
For the last 3 or 4 years I have developed moderate and chronic lower back pain. I found out I have an abnormal growth on my lower vertebrae that is causing arthritis. I have been cutting my 5 acre yard that used to be cow pasture weekly with a toro 3000 series 60" with suspension seat. My back would hurt for days afterward. I just traded it in on a gravely pro stance 60. I plan on using that stander for all 5 acres. I hope it's as easy on my back as you describe.
Good stuff ! The 48" is a versatile size . I really like your stander . Been using my 36" Vride more this year , the stander definately has it's place. JD ZTRs mow sweet too !
The sun up to sun down days kill my tail bone. Thinking about installing a lay-z boy recliner on my ztr haha. Would like to try a stander. I just hate the bigger price tags for less mower, makes no sense.
Yeah the 6 to 10 hour"Hours on a mower" a day was taking a toll on my back for sure. Honestly I have found standers to be the same price. Not more. The zero turns actually can be more costly.
I was just looking at the Bradley 48" stander is only 3800$ Good price for anyone that cant fork out to much, your right. I don't know why I was thinking they was more expensive.
I also have back issues from Military days. Couldnt agree more on Stand on description. We run Ferris z’s and 1 john deere stader. GREAT CUT, GREAT EASE OF USE, SUPERIOR MOWERS!!
to answer your comment of. "if you dont have a shoot blocker idk what ur doin" if you have a quicktrack 652 and dont have mulch on demand idk what ur doin lol good video the deere is a great mower
Well you should try a new version of that gravely. Looks like a z 52 or 152 The new 252 has the air ride seat. I actually got the 460 gravely and have no back issues. I go a little slower over bumps though. I tested the scag v ride 2 for a day and if your going stand on, I'd bet you'd say it's the best cut.
I got rid of my gravely for cut quality reasons. They leave too many stragglers. Tried everything you could and even tried a 260. Same issues. Swapped to ferris z3 and john deere and couldn't be happier. Gravely is tough but cut quality isnt there for me IMO.
I 've had the same experience since I got a stander. I like to go back and forth from sitting to standing ,that way the body doesn't get to much abuse on one area. I think the stander is way more efficient!
HUSTLER SUPER S WOULD OF BEEN A GOOD MOWER I RUN ONE . AND YOUR RIGHT YOU KIND OF DANCE WITH A STAND ON . GREAT CUT AND SPEED IT IS A WORK HORSE SO FAR 110 HRS TODAY NO PROBLEMS WITH IT
Ok I'm a solo operator....I want a stander but most of my properties are an acre plus, not to mention I'm on my feet trimming and use the 0 turn to rest my body, 2 years ago I had a heat stroke and passed out and broke my right leg just above the ankle...and I'm 55 years old....your opinion if you think a stander would work for me or stay with the zero turn
Wayne's Lawn Care I'm about in the same boat as you. 56 with 5 knees surgeries and three blown acl's. Love to sit but I keep my toro with the sulky going but all day with that whips my butt. Love when the trimming is over so I can sit and mow
There is NO WAY I could use a stand on all day. I am a solo 50yrs old and have 40 properties at full service and at least half are 1 to 1.5 acres. The only sit down time I get is on the mower. I feel the stand on models are for the cookie cutter lawns .4 and lower yards. Or for the young guys who can do it. But really you are talking two totally different machines. I run a gravely 460 60in cut and most of your stand ons in my area are 52in and lower for smaller properties.
I’m a big John Deere tractor fan and Ben looking at John Deere zero return and stand on mowers I didn’t know u could put scag high lifts on the Deere’s wounder if it scags 61s would fit Deere’s 61s and need to demo a Deere and we have thick wet grass in the spring and have heavy dews do u have any problems with wet grass on the Deere
I have a walker I run most of the time but probably try the Deere stander next since I have a dealer just a mile away. Does your stander have mulch on demand? Just wondered how well it worked. Thanks.
Good video man would love to see some vids on the Deere stander if you put her in some thick grass would like to see the cut have a z920 r with the 48 and thought about one of these but not to many good quality reviews out there thanks for the time from Nebraska
My father still enjoys cutting his yard every week. He is getting up in age and I was thinking about getting him the stander for the ease of getting off and on. Would you recommend this mower for a retired person whose isn't getting any younger? He currently has a traditional sit on mower with steering wheel but has to climb on and off it which make me worry. Would the stander be a option or is it to dangerous in your opinion?
THANK YOU! Southern Stile Lawn Care I almost quit the business due to back problems riding my ztr. Suspension seats only go so far. Most of my yards have a slopes of at least 20 degrees though. Would I hate the stander on hills?
Scott O 648r has the Kawasaki fx691v. I went with r bc it is stronger built then the m. Different back tire size holds hills better imo. Also fx motor with dual stage air filter. It can take more of a beating than the m. The m is still good tho.
Scott O fits in a lot more Gates and you only loose 4 inches off the cut. Less than a full pass per lawn. Just made since and very happy I went 48. I love 52 as well but I had about 20 lawns 52 was just a hair to wide and 48 goes in with ease
Russell Hopperton wave got some good ones here but nothing like there lol. You have the r model? I had to get used to the way to drive but after I figured it out it holds them well
Scott Bjurstrom no. Don't do enough leaf cleanups for a bagger. I mulch them or bag em. Usually mulch tho bc people don't like to pay the bagging price.
Well well well look who decided to make a Video finally 😂. Love my stander but man I tell you what it gets tiresome on 2+ acre properties all the time.
ariens as a company has gone to shit. just my personal opinion. everything we have purchased from gravely/ ariens group has been nothing but trash recently. hope your season is going well brother.
100% agree on your evaluation. I purchased a Bobcat Quick Cat this year. Back issues completely went away. The maneuverability and compactness of the stander over my Scag Tiger Cat is no comparison. Great video 👍🏽
For sure. Thats a good mower.
Thanks for the review. Now I understand why there aren't any outside deck wheels so genius!
At work we have X mark 60" commercial mowers and love them. But this season we just got a toro stander 60" and man I love it. Way more efficient and if you need to get off and pick shit up its quick. Better for slopes to because you can put the step up and walk behind it. My opinion. Its nice with the suspension standing plate
Yeah love my stander for sure.
Nice comparison. Stopping to pick stuff up from a ztr is a pain. We are going to be demoing a stander soon.
it's interesting some people say the seat gives them back stress. i threw out my back for the first time in my life 2 or 3 winters ago ( and only had a repeat once or twice since, thank God ), and bought an old gravely 60 sit last season for larger properties ( some of them annoyingly bumpy ). it's my most used machine ( besides a 48 walk ), and i haven't noticed any extra stress on my back. ...also the safeties have been bypassed, so all i have to do is put on the brake and flip the paddles, and i'm on and off for trash and object pickup in no time 😅 but obviously that's not a recommended feature for any mower.
i have noticed the straggler issue, and i either have to cut slower, or double/triple cut ( on smaller properties, no double cutting huge yards ), and _still_ occasionally get popups. maybe i'll change out the g6's for a set of scag hi's and see if they cut any better 🤔🤔
what's the difference in horsepower between your two mowers?
They both have the same Kawasaki FX 691V. Yeah alot of my properties are country and bumpy as hell lol. Def no good on the back.
I use Exmark Hi Lifts on mine and that does well with various fescue, kbg, and rye grasses. They are worth a try as well.
Now you have me seriously considering a 36" John Deere Stander.
Mow Hogs Nation do it I love mine perfect for small gates
I got one this spring 636m and love it fast little machine and haven't used my walk behind mower since I got it
For the last 3 or 4 years I have developed moderate and chronic lower back pain. I found out I have an abnormal growth on my lower vertebrae that is causing arthritis. I have been cutting my 5 acre yard that used to be cow pasture weekly with a toro 3000 series 60" with suspension seat. My back would hurt for days afterward. I just traded it in on a gravely pro stance 60. I plan on using that stander for all 5 acres. I hope it's as easy on my back as you describe.
love your videos on mowing but also just your take on equipment and business in general. You have a lot to offer on tips tricks and advice
Thanks Dennis
Good stuff ! The 48" is a versatile size . I really like your stander . Been using my 36" Vride more this year , the stander definately has it's place. JD ZTRs mow sweet too !
WH yeah the 7iron deck a are nice.
I agree completely with my Gravely 52 and the Wright. I would rather stand than sit but won't get rid of the Gravely for the same reasons
For sure.
I agree, I've used a gravely for a while and it seems the deck speed runs at a turtle pace vs a Deere or Exmark .
Turtle speed and a lot of double cutting.
Love the content, keep vids coming. I love my stander x gen 2. Went with the 52” deck since my first mower was a 48” dixie chopper stryker.
The sun up to sun down days kill my tail bone. Thinking about installing a lay-z boy recliner on my ztr haha. Would like to try a stander. I just hate the bigger price tags for less mower, makes no sense.
Yeah the 6 to 10 hour"Hours on a mower" a day was taking a toll on my back for sure. Honestly I have found standers to be the same price. Not more. The zero turns actually can be more costly.
I was just looking at the Bradley 48" stander is only 3800$ Good price for anyone that cant fork out to much, your right. I don't know why I was thinking they was more expensive.
I also have back issues from Military days. Couldnt agree more on Stand on description. We run Ferris z’s and 1 john deere stader. GREAT CUT, GREAT EASE OF USE, SUPERIOR MOWERS!!
Which one you like better?
Great video brother. About time you popped a new vid out lol
Yeah man. Last computer took a dump on me with al my content. I am def going to make moere.
im about to have the same problem running out of space fast
‼️My opinion is. Make The bed of the truck make it to A flatbed & could put another mower on the top of it.💯💯. Steel 0r ----aluminum
to answer your comment of. "if you dont have a shoot blocker idk what ur doin" if you have a quicktrack 652 and dont have mulch on demand idk what ur doin lol good video the deere is a great mower
Well you should try a new version of that gravely.
Looks like a z 52 or 152
The new 252 has the air ride seat.
I actually got the 460 gravely and have no back issues. I go a little slower over bumps though.
I tested the scag v ride 2 for a day and if your going stand on, I'd bet you'd say it's the best cut.
I got rid of my gravely for cut quality reasons. They leave too many stragglers. Tried everything you could and even tried a 260. Same issues. Swapped to ferris z3 and john deere and couldn't be happier. Gravely is tough but cut quality isnt there for me IMO.
I 've had the same experience since I got a stander. I like to go back and forth from sitting to standing ,that way the body doesn't get to much abuse on one area. I think the stander is way more efficient!
For sure.
Would love to try a stand on. I've always used sit mowers. great video.
HUSTLER SUPER S WOULD OF BEEN A GOOD MOWER I RUN ONE . AND YOUR RIGHT YOU KIND OF DANCE WITH A STAND ON . GREAT CUT AND SPEED IT IS A WORK HORSE SO FAR 110 HRS TODAY NO PROBLEMS WITH IT
Ryan Patton I don't have a hustler dealer close. I have ridden them and they are nice. Love my JD
Cool vid. This is one of the decisions I am currently in the middle of.
Good video Derek! I like hearing your opinions between the two. Me personally i love standers 😂👍
Ok I'm a solo operator....I want a stander but most of my properties are an acre plus, not to mention I'm on my feet trimming and use the 0 turn to rest my body, 2 years ago I had a heat stroke and passed out and broke my right leg just above the ankle...and I'm 55 years old....your opinion if you think a stander would work for me or stay with the zero turn
If zero turn is working stick with it.
Wayne's Lawn Care I'm about in the same boat as you. 56 with 5 knees surgeries and three blown acl's. Love to sit but I keep my toro with the sulky going but all day with that whips my butt. Love when the trimming is over so I can sit and mow
There is NO WAY I could use a stand on all day. I am a solo 50yrs old and have 40 properties at full service and at least half are 1 to 1.5 acres. The only sit down time I get is on the mower. I feel the stand on models are for the cookie cutter lawns .4 and lower yards. Or for the young guys who can do it. But really you are talking two totally different machines. I run a gravely 460 60in cut and most of your stand ons in my area are 52in and lower for smaller properties.
Ron Hart understandable. Everyone is different for sure. Nothing wrong with sitting.
The stander is a game changer for me , no question been waiting on the videos bro, wondering where you were.
Upscale Lawn Care Monroe I been busy. I'll be making st least one a week from now on. I posted a mowing video as well. Hope all is well.
I’m a big John Deere tractor fan and Ben looking at John Deere zero return and stand on mowers I didn’t know u could put scag high lifts on the Deere’s wounder if it scags 61s would fit Deere’s 61s and need to demo a Deere and we have thick wet grass in the spring and have heavy dews do u have any problems with wet grass on the Deere
Great video you should do some mowing videos and different tips and tricks love the videos keep up the good work man
For sure. Coming soon.
I have a 160 pro and 48 John deer and I find myself running the deer a lot more
Jim Doss same here. I run it all day. 52 sometimes.
Good video ! You should demo a john deere zero turn and compare a deere ztr to a gravely ztr
Got one in the works, JD will most likely be my next zero turn
Great stuff
Doesnt Ferris make a full suspension sit down mower to save your back?
They do. Toro and xmark have a suspension platform as well but they all still beat you up ater 6 - 10 mower hours a day.
I have a walker I run most of the time but probably try the Deere stander next since I have a dealer just a mile away. Does your stander have mulch on demand? Just wondered how well it worked. Thanks.
Only the 52 has the MOD. I cant say. havent tried it.
Thanks for the prompt reply.
The JD is a Wright but with green painted color, they make it for them.
Good video man would love to see some vids on the Deere stander if you put her in some thick grass would like to see the cut have a z920 r with the 48 and thought about one of these but not to many good quality reviews out there thanks for the time from Nebraska
For sure. I have a few videos in waist high stuff. Need to post them.
Thank you much would appreciate any info
I just posted a video yesterday. Some thick stuff in there.
I want to see mowing vlogs ☺👊👊
Just loaded one up for yall
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My father still enjoys cutting his yard every week. He is getting up in age and I was thinking about getting him the stander for the ease of getting off and on. Would you recommend this mower for a retired person whose isn't getting any younger? He currently has a traditional sit on mower with steering wheel but has to climb on and off it which make me worry. Would the stander be a option or is it to dangerous in your opinion?
If he has good ballance I wouldnt see an issue in it. It's a lot better on your body.
Good stuff Derek
Thanks for the video! What would you think about if you had a 60" John Deere Stand-On?
Great set-up mate..👊👏✌👍😉
THANK YOU! Southern Stile Lawn Care I almost quit the business due to back problems riding my ztr. Suspension seats only go so far. Most of my yards have a slopes of at least 20 degrees though. Would I hate the stander on hills?
My 48 rides slopes well. You just have to learn how to operate it on a slope. My 61 ferris demolishes slopes no problem.
Whats the purpose of that grass flap on the deere
To shut off the opening to mulch, not shoot stuff in flower beds, or not throw stuff st windows etc..
Nice video. I like tip vids
I have the same John Deere I love it but the major drawback is it sucks on hill and the deck leaves a mess if going a slight hill
Man mine is awesome on hills. I just had to figure out where to use my weight. What jdo you mean a mess on a hill?
Awesome review! Thanks
You like the JD over the Ferris you demo last year?
tsh30039 oh yeah. 48 ferris z1 has a very small foot platform and no front scalp wheel in center of deck. In the 48 the deer is the way.
Chris Lawn Service grate video
Good trimmer redmax I got the same
I would expect a superior cut from a Deere lol what was that thing? 10k? Definitely worth it if you enjoy it and you got the business man.
Nik P nah I wouldn't pay 10k for a stander.
What’s the horse power on the Deere? Getting one of those very soon. Just demoed the 54 inch 652m. What made you go with the R vs the M?
Scott O 648r has the Kawasaki fx691v. I went with r bc it is stronger built then the m. Different back tire size holds hills better imo. Also fx motor with dual stage air filter. It can take more of a beating than the m. The m is still good tho.
Why did you go with the 48 over the 52? Scalping?
Scott O fits in a lot more Gates and you only loose 4 inches off the cut. Less than a full pass per lawn. Just made since and very happy I went 48. I love 52 as well but I had about 20 lawns 52 was just a hair to wide and 48 goes in with ease
I like mine but they don’t like hills or wet areas. Mine has the mulch on demand and it sucks.
Russell Hopperton I dont like mulch om demand at all. Mine is a beast on hills.
Southern Style Lawn Care idk what you mean by hills lol. I’m in KY, we have hills.
Russell Hopperton wave got some good ones here but nothing like there lol. You have the r model? I had to get used to the way to drive but after I figured it out it holds them well
Do you have a baging system for one or both only thing am thinking bager for sit down for leaf pick up
Scott Bjurstrom no. Don't do enough leaf cleanups for a bagger. I mulch them or bag em. Usually mulch tho bc people don't like to pay the bagging price.
Do you have a link for the weed eater hold and rack for the shovels and stuff?
Trailerracks.com use code southernstyle for 10 percent off.
How Much for a hat like that?
I need to make some to sale. like 20$
Southern Style Lawn Care I’m Buy One When u have them for sale! Your channel one of my favorite Lawn Care Channel on RUclips
Well well well look who decided to make a Video finally 😂. Love my stander but man I tell you what it gets tiresome on 2+ acre properties all the time.
Do you like SCAG?
Daniel Martin yeah they are good mowers.
I get my two new deers this Monday
John Deere ztrac 920m is a lot better than the gravely it cuts everything the first time next time try the JD sit down 👍👍
What would you use to cut your own lawn?
I use my standers. My lawn is bumpy as heck. I run. All standers now. 61 ferris z3 and deere 648r
Stander, All day long
I wanna see ranger vids
Man I pulled some shrubs out with it yesterday. Should have recorded it ha.
Can you do a set up?
Mason Leblanc I have a recent setup video. Only thing that has changed is 2 br600s
Are you gonna trade the gravley for a John Deere sit down mower
Who knows. I will prob just buy one. Keep the gravely as a back up.
Southern Style Lawn Care yeah
Southern Style Lawn Care get the John deer 930m it’s pretty nice
How long you being on this business
Too long lol. Since I could drive.
Get some mowing videos 👌🏼
Just uploaded one.
ariens as a company has gone to shit. just my personal opinion. everything we have purchased from gravely/ ariens group has been nothing but trash recently. hope your season is going well brother.