2Pac Joining Death Row Is The Reason He’s Dead! Suge Was Giving Keyshia Cole Power Around Death Row!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Curtis "Kurt Kobane" Couthon (Death Row Producer and Manager) talks Tupac joining Death Row Records being the cause of his demise and Keyshia Cole affiliation with Death Row Records.
    #Tupac #SugeKnight #KeyshiaCole

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  • @FireandIce0386
    @FireandIce0386 3 года назад +443

    I think Tupac just had alot of anger when he left jail. And Suge gave him the power and oppurtunity to act on it.
    For the first time it felt like he was part of a powerful family.
    He was embraced to the fullest. And you saw how he felt about it in his representing of DeathRow.

    • @roxxylala26
      @roxxylala26 3 года назад +57

      Finally someone that gets it.

    • @klerktrent6226
      @klerktrent6226 3 года назад +47

      Right and his downfall was thinking he couldn't get touched.

    • @MrBronze71
      @MrBronze71 3 года назад +17

      Yep, it's like giving 2 Pac a check book and a Army of Gang Bangers 🤔🤔🤔

    • @lw2835
      @lw2835 3 года назад +47

      @@klerktrent6226 Pac always new he could get touched, he just didn't care

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 3 года назад +32

      I think Pac was just trying to survive in the habitat that he was in. So he acted accordingly until he could safely get away.

  • @shankrock2299
    @shankrock2299 3 года назад +157

    Why do everyone keep blaming Suge???? Nobody on Deathrow was angels. Cut all the bullshit out about Suge. PAC is my favorite rapper but PAC just like the rest of em was putting out that negative energy. Everyone is held accountable for their own actions. Point blank

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +41

      Because many people don't like putting any accountability on 2Pac. Everything is always someone else's fault.

    • @shankrock2299
      @shankrock2299 3 года назад +16

      @@kevinlee9929 exactly bro. PAC is my number rapper. But he brought it all on himself. In for the record that night in Vegas when he rushed Orlando. He did what any nigga that got some drinks up in it n high of some weed n rolling deep. I would have done the same Thang. Unfortunately that’s just how it goes in the streets. We all know PAC was a live wire before he got on Deathrow. Was PAC a killer, no. But yes he would swing on a nigga in a heartbeat.

    • @donda7569
      @donda7569 3 года назад +8

      @@kevinlee9929 I love pac to death but death row was horrific to his life. It's basically like life when you see people who you used to mess with change for the worse.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +7

      @@shankrock2299 I say the samething. I love Pac. He my favorite rapper ever and I consider him the GOAT. But nobody made him swing on Orlando. That was a choice he made as a man.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +9

      @@donda7569 Everything that happened to Pac on Death Row happened before Death Row minus his passing. He had been shot before Death Row. Hung with gang members before Death Row. Getting into fights before Death Row. Going to jail before Death Row. Had a big mouth before Death Row.

  • @lebronshairline4768
    @lebronshairline4768 3 года назад +85

    Im still trying to grasp Keyshia Cole hanging around a bunch of grown ass men at 12

    • @kxo1038
      @kxo1038 3 года назад +20

      Weird industry

    • @mahoganypostlewaite9866
      @mahoganypostlewaite9866 3 года назад +18

      Monica was too

    • @lebronshairline4768
      @lebronshairline4768 3 года назад +16

      @@mahoganypostlewaite9866 she wasn't hanging out at Death Row. She tried, Pac wasn't having it. Monica hung with Dallas Austin at that age kuz he produced her first record. It was only in studio and her mom supervised her. Keyshia's mom was a drug addict...

    • @mylesmikieal
      @mylesmikieal 3 года назад +2

      Right

    • @Stonecoldalston
      @Stonecoldalston 3 года назад +7

      Her brother was around the circle

  • @msdyamonddiva
    @msdyamonddiva 3 года назад +177

    I don’t even know how I got here, but these interviews with Kurt Kobane about Death Row are the real deal. I need some popcorn. They was he’s delivering this information, how can it NOT be the truth! When he’s telling the stories....it’s the logic for me. AOD great job!

  • @fredfells209
    @fredfells209 3 года назад +99

    Nobody start wearing there Record Labels Logo Medallions until Death Row started that trend...

    • @gc4479
      @gc4479 3 года назад +3

      So what.

    • @robertpitts8161
      @robertpitts8161 3 года назад +5

      Facts!

    • @yeahisaidit5633
      @yeahisaidit5633 3 года назад +2

      And.........

    • @fredfells209
      @fredfells209 3 года назад +7

      @@yeahisaidit5633 imitated never duplicated.. Regardless of the downfall no one ever done it better than Death Row at one time greatest artists under one roof.. Dre, Snoop, Pac and the rest.. Learn Something..

    • @MrIMFREE09
      @MrIMFREE09 3 года назад +5

      What about No limit? 🤔🤔

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 3 года назад +22

    I do agree that if Pac never signed with Death Row he LIKELY would still be alive. It seemed like Pac felt like he had to behave a certain way or display a certain type of loyalty once he went to Death Row. Musical career wise, it was the best move he could have made because AEOM was his highest selling album that produced numerous hits (Cali Love, How do you want it, 2 Of Americaz Most Wanted) , but personal life wise, he went in a direction that led to his destruction. Pac had no solid , grounded, positive male influences in his life, let alone a father. Suge was the closest thing, and overall he was just not a good man or influence.

  • @kimhobs
    @kimhobs 3 года назад +128

    Suge didn’t become “Public Enemy # 1” to the Illuminate until Suge wanted to own his own Distribution Company & they weren’t having it! Periodt.

    • @prosurferwaves6195
      @prosurferwaves6195 3 года назад +5

      Thats Facts!! 💯

    • @dmack143
      @dmack143 3 года назад +11

      Big Facts, Thanks to god there's some smart people's in America

    • @kelvinmanley6166
      @kelvinmanley6166 3 года назад +3

      no when he Got on the cover of The Source Magazine

    • @almightytre3730
      @almightytre3730 3 года назад +9

      @Purple rain & pancakes Suge said in an interview that Mc Hammer, 2Pac, Snoop and the DPG were gonna have their label distributed through Death Row.

    • @kimhobs
      @kimhobs 3 года назад +12

      @Purple rain & pancakes You really been eating too many pancakes & listening to Purple Rain thinking you are Prince huh? Come out of that pipe dream you living in! This is the title from an article in REVOLT: “J. Prince says the FBI tried to “kill” him when forming a Black-owned distribution company with Suge Knight and Irv Gotti.”
      Which would’ve been the main Distribution company for Black Artist & the Illuminati, powers that be, Jews that run the industry & whatever other name you choose to label them as, shut it down! I’m not saying they didn’t have any legal issues that used to come @ them but I don’t care what you think most big businesses have skeletons in their closet & if they play by the rules, no problem, you step outta line they coming for you, some have a jail sentence, some death sentence. So climb back under that rock you been sleeping under & as “Public Enemy” said it best “Don’t believe the hype!” Get your facts right or STFU!! Bam!

  • @deadredadon8251
    @deadredadon8251 3 года назад +148

    So Keyshia Cole wasn't lying when she said she really knew Pac and was around Death Row.

    • @harrellwilliams5010
      @harrellwilliams5010 3 года назад +55

      Everybody new she wasn't lying...

    • @LankyJay601
      @LankyJay601 3 года назад +39

      Her brother Nutso joined the Outlawz a little bit before Pac passed away

    • @unclemurdablackandyellow5481
      @unclemurdablackandyellow5481 3 года назад +33

      Thats a fact. She has an older brother who was a rapper named nuttso. He was an official memeber of the outlawz. Hammer linked her and her brother with pac

    • @FireandIce0386
      @FireandIce0386 3 года назад +12

      When it comes to Keyshia we've gotta hold in account that she was only 15yrs old back then. That means that when Pac told her that. She interpreted it with the mind of a 15yr old girl. It could be that she just took it like that. But that it wasn't what Pac meant.

    • @JaeRoc6
      @JaeRoc6 3 года назад +9

      she in a picture with Pac & Outlawz

  • @TheJuarezG
    @TheJuarezG 3 года назад +114

    Crazy thing is, Brandy and Ray J were around Death Row alot back in those days, they're Snoop Dogg's cousins.

    • @dawb86
      @dawb86 3 года назад +41

      Not crazy at all. People thought Ray J was just all of a sudden trying to be "hard" later in his career lol. Bro was a hothead though and not for the BS.

    • @TheJuarezG
      @TheJuarezG 3 года назад +33

      @@dawb86 Yeah everybody laughed at him when he said he was banging with Bloods because his mom was more focused on Brandy's career and ignored him, he had alot of spare time on his hand, the dude introduced the world to Kim K🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @Real2k25
      @Real2k25 3 года назад

      Wow

    • @jharumihankali1066
      @jharumihankali1066 3 года назад +18

      @Purple rain & pancakes he was actually there in the 90s. He was there and confirmed when he came to the studio and saw Faith Evans sitting on Pac lap. Confirmed by many ppl. Never banged but he def was around

    • @caramelkimmiekim8272
      @caramelkimmiekim8272 3 года назад +11

      Just because they related don't mean they were around, ppl just say any damn thing

  • @marcusbarnes9796
    @marcusbarnes9796 3 года назад +86

    Here’s why it kind of makes sense to me because if you look at his late interviews on the movie sets he talked about going away from music and doing more film. It also seemed like he was attempting to change the narrative around his image and I believe it’d had been faster to do it with his name attached to Quincy/WB rather than Suge/Death Row.

    • @qristofao1437
      @qristofao1437 3 года назад +1

      I agree

    • @Tirrell25
      @Tirrell25 3 года назад +10

      dude had almost the power of a michal jackson from a world standpoint which would of given him better leverage to negotiate his deal with whoever he went to. deathrow was on top pf the game but im pretty sure pac was more concerend
      with his wellbeing and not having so much of a negative image and being paid more then what deathrow was stealing from him. there was too much drama in deathrow people being killed,beat up etc

    • @realeyez3718
      @realeyez3718 3 года назад +3

      Tupac Was Signing With Suge Lucky Number 7 Deathrow Was Distributing Makaveli Records. Very Simple.

  • @D2255
    @D2255 3 года назад +55

    Man he only lived close to a year and a half after signing to death row. All eyes on me 95. Dead in 96

    • @club6626
      @club6626 3 года назад +20

      2 years with jimmy Iovene at Interscope Tupac was shot 5 times, police tried to kill him, always broke, set up on rape charges & left to rot in prison

    • @gc4479
      @gc4479 3 года назад

      That's crazy.

    • @BabsW
      @BabsW 3 года назад +14

      I'm pretty sure it was 11 months. He got out of prison in October 1995 and was murdered in September 1996.

    • @stephenstuckey
      @stephenstuckey 3 года назад +10

      All eyes on me came out feb 96. He was on dearhrow for 11 mths.....less.than a year he lived. And produced so much on deathrow....put that into perspective.

    • @safiesekgwa1933
      @safiesekgwa1933 3 года назад +7

      11 months.

  • @bjc4204
    @bjc4204 3 года назад +18

    I believe Pac was leaving. Once he found out that Suge and Kenner were robbing him blind, he distanced himself. Affeni, Frank, Keisha, Kidada and others say that he said that he was leaving Deathrow once he released MAKAVELI. Pac repeatedly said that he was going to rap less and ACT more. He also was planning on starting his own political party, publishing company and many charity organizations to benefit the youth. He had ENDLESS POTENTIAL. So sad. RIP PAC. 🙏

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +5

      How was he distancing himself from Suge when he was hanging with him almost non stop until the moment when his life was basically ended? And he fired Kenner not Suge.

    • @Wickedblackjuggalo19
      @Wickedblackjuggalo19 3 года назад

      Yea I don’t think Suge was robbing him Kenner i’m not so sure about might’ve played a role in his death along with crooked LAPD officers

    • @djhaynes99
      @djhaynes99 3 года назад +1

      Suge was robbing him, one of the last transactions from Pac’s money in September 1996 was a Range Rover for Michel’le, that was given to her from Suge.

  • @specialkaye3059
    @specialkaye3059 3 года назад +26

    Tupac had CHOICES and their are CONSEQUENCES behind your CHOICES. Don't let emotions override logic. Count up the cost...

    • @clayton6614
      @clayton6614 2 года назад +2

      Well said. Everyone wants to know what life is all about..Its choices!

    • @specialkaye3059
      @specialkaye3059 2 года назад

      @@clayton6614 Totally agree👍

  • @t.7527
    @t.7527 3 года назад +184

    We need some Hammer stories. That guy is a legend too !

    • @calvinacb1807
      @calvinacb1807 3 года назад +3

      Nah ain't no body checking for Hammer🔨

    • @Moneyg73
      @Moneyg73 3 года назад +14

      Hammer is super smart. I follow him on Twitter he's always posting some kind of philosophical stuff, lol. I never expected him to be an intellectual.

    • @ruben21
      @ruben21 3 года назад +35

      Hammer is a legend for sure. Y'all couldn't have been around in the early 90's saying dumb shit like that.

    • @michaelwilson939
      @michaelwilson939 3 года назад

      He didn't do that kind of dirt, viewers won't watch.

    • @michaelwilson939
      @michaelwilson939 3 года назад +12

      @@ruben21 they don't know.

  • @FEB-mz6zr
    @FEB-mz6zr 3 года назад +108

    This dude is speaking facts IMO.

  • @cynthiasolomon6383
    @cynthiasolomon6383 3 года назад +71

    Tupac was on the cusp of all his Potential but he left a Global Footprint for young Artists to sample.Peace

  • @jaykriss724
    @jaykriss724 3 года назад +43

    I’m glad I found this channel , I’m a sucker for death row/pac/suge stories. Keep it up ya’ll

  • @slip-n-rollboxing1826
    @slip-n-rollboxing1826 3 года назад +130

    I hate that someone else gotta speak for pac. Pac not here to tell the real story

    • @cynthiasolomon6383
      @cynthiasolomon6383 3 года назад +12

      Absolutely.Peace

    • @bjc4204
      @bjc4204 3 года назад +9

      FACTS.

    • @safiesekgwa1933
      @safiesekgwa1933 3 года назад +12

      But his songs are saying it all...

    • @earlwilliamsjr4817
      @earlwilliamsjr4817 3 года назад +3

      That's the problem with this channel, people just talking without any prove of what they are saying. All these tupac stories & and quotes. Without recording or tape. B.S.

    • @realeyez3718
      @realeyez3718 3 года назад +1

      💯💯💯💯💯

  • @adamb732
    @adamb732 3 года назад +50

    Death Row and Bad Boy ruled 90s . Good music 🎼 East and West both the Best

    • @bossak1720
      @bossak1720 3 года назад +1

      Aftermath Took Over Late 90s

    • @jaymosley6437
      @jaymosley6437 3 года назад +4

      Dont forget rap a lot, sauve house and no limit...oh cash money had a run too

    • @TGF25
      @TGF25 3 года назад

      @@jay2chill134 I agree & I respect Dre as a producer but honestly, I say all the time that G-Unit's Beg For Mercy undid the damage of The Firm album! Dre & Jimmy Iovine didn't really believe in G-Unit's Beg For Mercy album because they invested in The Firm & The Firm flopped & The Firm was originally supposed to be the project to launch Aftermath before Slim Shady LP, but Beg For Mercy ended up successfully launching G-Unit Records & the solo careers of Lloyd Banks, Young Buck, The Game & Tony Yayo & it made 50 Cent a respected executive producer/CEO of the label! So you speaking FACTS bro!

    • @ruben21
      @ruben21 3 года назад

      Death Row then Cash Money for Me in the 90's

  • @calebmerritt2438
    @calebmerritt2438 3 года назад +12

    Out of all the people that have spoken on Pac. Kurt flat out has kept it the realest and probably most truthful. He is the only person that I know of, that has ever had the balls to say that Pac joining Death Row was his downfall, and that Suge was a bad influence on him, or Death Row in general was a bad influence on him. I personally feel that is the truth, and I've felt that way for years being a fan of Pac. I commend Kurt for Having the courage to say it.

    • @SoulOfTheSouth
      @SoulOfTheSouth 3 года назад

      Of course! Why would he hold back a lot of things that people are afraid to say because of Pac’s loyalty? Fuck that! You gotta call out on shit that is wrong in your eyes. You gotta keep it real. A lot of Pac fans don’t like hearing these stories because of their loyalty to him, even on fuck up shit that he did. They just say excuses.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +1

      2Pac's downfall was being a hot head. He was that before he ever joined Death Row.

    • @calebmerritt2438
      @calebmerritt2438 3 года назад

      @@kevinlee9929 I agree he was hotheaded. That's not a question. So I definitely 100% agree with that. However, when he went to death row Suge Knight more than anybody should not have been encouraging him, or standing beside him when he was doing things that an artist shouldn't have been doing. Tupac should have had someone in his corner specifically Suge, since he was the head person. To tell him no don't do that you're an artist, calm down. I mean at the end of the day. Tupac is a grown man, but at the same time I personally feel if he had people in his corner and in his ear encouraging him not to do certain things he would have done it. However, everyone around him was encouraging him to just do whatever, which was not good.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +1

      @@calebmerritt2438 But Pac by his own admission had people telling him to calm down and he wouldn't listen. He said this on interviews before he joined Death Row.

    • @calebmerritt2438
      @calebmerritt2438 3 года назад +1

      @@kevinlee9929 There's a possibility that very well may be true. I don't know because I've never seen that interview. You would have to send me the link. I'd love to watch it though. However, if that was before death row. That's a little different. He held Suge in such high regard, and had such a loyalty for Suge. If Suge would have said it to him. He more than likely would have listened. At least that's what I feel anyway.

  • @CLOSPLAYZ
    @CLOSPLAYZ 3 года назад +19

    Can’t wait for more videos and interviews about Tupac! Keep up the great work

  • @michaelgant584
    @michaelgant584 3 года назад +56

    If he gets Trevon Lane....this dude is officially the King 👑 📺💯. Hell....he just might

    • @Jody_Joe
      @Jody_Joe 3 года назад +3

      Big fax bro bow down 🙇‍♀️ to the art lol if he do lmao

    • @YouTubedInn
      @YouTubedInn 3 года назад +2

      If He Does that . ima Spam His Cashapp. 🌚

    • @Brookintellect
      @Brookintellect 3 года назад +2

      Never

    • @michaelgant584
      @michaelgant584 3 года назад +1

      @@Brookintellect yeah.....I wonder why though?

    • @Life_moreabundantly
      @Life_moreabundantly 3 года назад +1

      💣💯👑💛✨TRUTH.

  • @dagreatmclovin
    @dagreatmclovin 3 года назад +40

    Tupac was looking at 7 penitentiary years. I would've joined Death Row too. People forget that part when they say Pac should've never Joined DR. Pac was planning on leaving anyway.

    • @pacman1153
      @pacman1153 3 года назад +1

      Exactly. It's impossible to judge a person like Pac. Him being in jail for something he didn't do. Anyone with a little common sense would want out of jail. What choice did he have? Pac was innocent of the crime, but guilty of hanging with the wrong people. He surrounded himself with people who didn't give a s... about him. He just found the hard way. Also, you're right, he was leaving DR. I always believe people inside DR had him killed.

    • @bjc4204
      @bjc4204 3 года назад +5

      No, he was serving 1 &1/2 to 4& 1/2 years. Had he been more responsible with his money, he could've bailed himself out of jail with his saved money. He really did bail himself out, Suge just lied like he did. Interscope gave Suge Pac's money that was owed to him. Had Pac known that, he wouldn't have been so loyal to Suge and Deathrow. He may be still alive today had he not been so irresponsible.

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 3 года назад

      @@pacman1153 he was serving 18 months...
      Probably released in a year lol
      Where do y’all get this stuff??? 😂

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +4

      @@bjc4204 Y'all keep trying to discredit Suge. Fact is Suge is the only one who made the moves to get 2Pac out. He also helped made him bigger than he ever was. Those are facts.

    • @pacman1153
      @pacman1153 3 года назад

      @@Synchronite I think you replied to the wrong person.

  • @imthebest7290
    @imthebest7290 3 года назад +49

    3:30 maybe keisha cole was there because of her brother Nutttso who rapped w/ 2pac

    • @shigiz
      @shigiz 3 года назад +9

      mc hammer brought out alot of oakland rappers to rap with pac!

    • @Tropical442
      @Tropical442 3 года назад +1

      I guess 🙄

    • @am2pmunited4cash12
      @am2pmunited4cash12 3 года назад +3

      Facts.... people have to realize she was born in 81 so when pac died in 96 she was 14 or 15

    • @DeePolar.
      @DeePolar. 3 года назад

      Then she signed with diddy... doesn’t make sense

  • @crusaderorisha
    @crusaderorisha 3 года назад +15

    All he had to do was not get involved into a beef that has nothing to do with him, Orlando Anderson was a 2pac fan until he got jumped by one of his favourite artist

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +1

      Yup

    • @Wickedblackjuggalo19
      @Wickedblackjuggalo19 3 года назад +1

      That’s okay cause Orlando Anderson had nothing to do with killing him according to Suge’s phone call recording it was all crooked LAPD same with Biggie

    • @josemv25
      @josemv25 Год назад

      I think he was gonna get killed one way or another. It seems like he always had someone wanting to do him harm

    • @SuperJimmielee
      @SuperJimmielee Год назад

      Man don't you know how hard that was going to be? Stop. Lolol. That one reason why suge signed him. To be that mouth piece to that hip-hop war.

    • @TheWoodland12
      @TheWoodland12 Год назад

      Yeah he wouldn’t have known if the guy hadn’t pointed Orlando Anderson out to Tupac . It’s like they knew he was loyal and would take up for them so they set him up.

  • @matttyerman3148
    @matttyerman3148 3 года назад +15

    Respect art!!! You get the bomb interviews bro keep it up the world needs to learn theses stories, if there was awards on yt for best interviewers you would be at the top 🔝 of the list

  • @klerktrent6226
    @klerktrent6226 3 года назад +27

    This dude is dropping Gems!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Imthatoneboy
    @Imthatoneboy 3 года назад +47

    Tupac went full 180. He went from giving out a message to help his people to vengeance upon his enemies. I feel like people took advantage of his hurt and anger to profit off his music

    • @2toottoot
      @2toottoot 3 года назад +2

      when it comes to life and death and jail wat else you have

    • @domino2oh-riginal
      @domino2oh-riginal 3 года назад +3

      Facts

    • @Polostar79
      @Polostar79 3 года назад +8

      Well he didn’t really take vengeance on his enemies because the dudes that actually hurt him never got touched. Tupac went after the softest target possible.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 3 года назад +15

      @@Polostar79 2Pac had to get his money right before he went after his enemies in NY. He clearly stated that he wanted war at the end of Makaveli.

    • @setgoodproduction772
      @setgoodproduction772 3 года назад +5

      I agree with this he just couldn’t let his hate go and I get it but come on bruh after awhile you gotta be smart and think of how it’s gonna effect the environment being the star that he was

  • @drummajor101
    @drummajor101 3 года назад +31

    *I love this channel and the interviews!*

  • @champchamberlain
    @champchamberlain 3 года назад +41

    I disagree with the “battery in back/bad influence” thing. To me it was more of putting Gasoline to a match...who was the gas and who was the match is debatable. They amped each other!

    • @shootermcgavin214
      @shootermcgavin214 3 года назад +3

      Pretty much the same thing

    • @michaelswearingen4596
      @michaelswearingen4596 3 года назад +3

      Same thing dude, accept it lol

    • @champchamberlain
      @champchamberlain 3 года назад +8

      @@shootermcgavin214 nah. Pac was wild before he got to Death Row. All those run-ins with police and beating someone with a baseball bat onstage in Michigan, having. A standoff with GDs at a concert in Chicago, Hughes Brothers incident, Off duty police incident, etc was BEFORE Death Row. Scarface tells stories about how Pac use to have a backpack full of guns and some one would slide them onstage while he performed and the entire concert would be shut down in pandemonium. And Suge wasn’t really, really, flexing in FRONT of the camera like that u til Pac got to Death Row...Suge played the shadows. They amped EACH OTHER.

    • @champchamberlain
      @champchamberlain 3 года назад +2

      @@michaelswearingen4596 nah, “dude”

    • @discrij6073
      @discrij6073 3 года назад +3

      @@champchamberlain both were wild before pac signed to Death row

  • @90svintageflava36
    @90svintageflava36 3 года назад +18

    The best Death Row related platform on the internet in general.

  • @chocboiwonda6810
    @chocboiwonda6810 3 года назад +39

    Well Keyshia was born in 81 so she had to be around 15 when she was around Pac. That's pretty cool to know 💯

    • @NatHenrickClarke
      @NatHenrickClarke 3 года назад +6

      Pac told her should was going to be a star

    • @chris_tokai_tokorangi_chapman
      @chris_tokai_tokorangi_chapman 3 года назад +3

      No doubt she would’ve been on Pacs label! 💯

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +2

      Death Row had a couple of young people around them.

    • @moisurmoi7625
      @moisurmoi7625 3 года назад +2

      @@kevinlee9929 they had bow wow

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +2

      @@moisurmoi7625 Bow Wow, Keyshia Cole, Danny Boy, Mutah, Kadafi.

  • @pacman1153
    @pacman1153 3 года назад +17

    Of course Suge was a bad influence on Pac. It takes people 20 years to figure that out?

    • @puncho33
      @puncho33 3 года назад

      Ok🤣😂real talk!

  • @jantelagen4262
    @jantelagen4262 3 года назад +28

    I wonder how many subscribers this channel got? I love this. Pac fan from Sweden

    • @CLOSPLAYZ
      @CLOSPLAYZ 3 года назад +7

      104K

    • @kimhobs
      @kimhobs 3 года назад

      @ Jantelagen over 100,000

    • @babyigotchomoney
      @babyigotchomoney 3 года назад +1

      OVER 9 thousaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

    • @jantelagen4262
      @jantelagen4262 3 года назад +2

      @@TedKennedy. Now I see it! He had it hidden or something before

    • @junegem4548
      @junegem4548 3 года назад +1

      Sthlm här

  • @cherrykhola1437
    @cherrykhola1437 Год назад +4

    2Pac was definitely a follower. He needed his pops in his life 😢

  • @rileygates3315
    @rileygates3315 3 года назад +22

    I feel like Tupac feel his downfall was joining death row was his downfall

    • @theonlyswangeo
      @theonlyswangeo 3 года назад +1

      My sentiments exactly! 💯💯

    • @club6626
      @club6626 3 года назад +3

      @@alexlyndhurstfreesuge5532 FACTS !!

    • @valencia4253
      @valencia4253 2 года назад

      🎯🎯💯💯

  • @buschg7106
    @buschg7106 3 года назад +18

    This is a great series.

  • @djseasick
    @djseasick 3 года назад +40

    It wasn't Ice Cube, it was Ice T who made "Cop Killer"

    • @KJApexxmedia5511
      @KJApexxmedia5511 3 года назад +10

      Ice t talked mad shit about the police and now he is a detective..

    • @bobbytrilla6733
      @bobbytrilla6733 3 года назад +3

      @@KJApexxmedia5511 I mean who would say no to a legit hustle

    • @KJApexxmedia5511
      @KJApexxmedia5511 3 года назад +1

      @@bobbytrilla6733 its just ironic... Snoop once said when ice t first started he had a problem of getting in the back seat of the police car when he was the police.... Its a joke lol

    • @Poc9900
      @Poc9900 3 года назад

      They both had f##k police tracks

  • @Halloffameproductions
    @Halloffameproductions 3 года назад +10

    Peace and Love from Chicago !

  • @dgreythrowthetoweltv1038
    @dgreythrowthetoweltv1038 3 года назад +22

    PAC lost his mind. Hammer low key got a lot of Street Cred

    • @quann06
      @quann06 3 года назад +10

      I swear Hammer is tougher than people think.

    • @edmemphis6974
      @edmemphis6974 3 года назад +6

      Bruh Hammer has serious street cred before he even got famous.

  • @anonymouslyaffiliated2518
    @anonymouslyaffiliated2518 3 года назад +9

    Like you stated in hindsight, no that wasn't his demise. It came once he shot them cop's.. Peep the timeline closely after that...

  • @setgoodproduction772
    @setgoodproduction772 3 года назад +13

    2Pac JOINING death row wasn’t his downfall because at the end of the day he could of stuck to the music like Lady Of Rage or Snoop and been the man and the goat musician that he was. NOBODY forced or held 2Pacs hand to do the things he did, 2Pac made those decisions himself and took the bait. 2Pacs DECISIONS was his downfall.

    • @haroldganious5819
      @haroldganious5819 3 года назад +2

      I agreed with you,2pac actions led to his demise,but suge knight should've separated that gang banging shit with pac,quit adding fuel to the beef with biggie and puffy ect,just to sell records and make him money,you seen how dr dre,snoop,dogg pound ect left death row,they realize suge was full of shit and crooked

    • @JaeRoc6
      @JaeRoc6 3 года назад +5

      his loyalty to the wrong person was his downfall

    • @setgoodproduction772
      @setgoodproduction772 3 года назад +1

      @@haroldganious5819 I agree Suge should of been on some grown man shit and sat 2Pac down and tell him to get over the whole beef thing and also keep 2Pac away from that street shit. That whole situation is embarrassing on Suges part since Suge was the oldest but he acted like a dumbass lil kid letting his lieutenants run amuck

    • @haroldganious5819
      @haroldganious5819 3 года назад

      @@setgoodproduction772 i totally agree,damn shame we lost two of the greatest rappers,a record label(death row)that could've been the motown of hip hop with all that talent to bullshit,puffy is to be blamed too,but suge take the cake,only if he would've did things correctly and in positive way smh

    • @anthonys___n8022
      @anthonys___n8022 3 года назад

      "stuck to music" dude Snoop had a murder case hanging over his head

  • @bjoverflow
    @bjoverflow 3 года назад +3

    What's interesting is how all these people have comments on this situation, when none of the people posting comments below knew none of these artists personally....Shut up and let this man who was a eye witness testimony tell the story 💯.

  • @jw8863
    @jw8863 3 года назад +16

    The question is why did Dre have another man in his bedroom answering the phone 😆

    • @earlwilliamsjr4817
      @earlwilliamsjr4817 3 года назад +2

      Fax. Lmao

    • @toorealforearth1981
      @toorealforearth1981 3 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sassyfrass7029
      @sassyfrass7029 3 года назад +1

      The real question to me is-who got paid and who didn’t. All the other is entertaining….but I want to know who actually got paid and by who.

  • @aminatak1985
    @aminatak1985 3 года назад +7

    For the weirdos who thought keyshia was lying

  • @debraharriott6558
    @debraharriott6558 3 года назад +2

    Death Row truly black music history.
    It was too late for PAC to separate himself from death row. Suge had no idea of the PAC true legacy but he knows now.

  • @carrain34
    @carrain34 3 года назад +14

    No signing Tupac wasn't the downfall of Death Row, it was the gang banging. That's what ultimately cost Tupac his life and Suge his freedom and his company.

    • @wearefitnow
      @wearefitnow 3 года назад

      Although I agree with you, I like what Mob James said, when he said Suge should’ve kept pac away from the bloods because he was an artist not a gangbanger. If pac stayed away from it, death row might still be in existence. But then again eventually they might have did some other dumb stuff which could’ve ended the company as well

  • @kanyegang2810
    @kanyegang2810 3 года назад +7

    Keyshia was a kid teenager at that time, and I'm older then her, and I was a young teenager myself at that TIME so if he gave her power that had to be a mess!!

  • @mistermyself1128
    @mistermyself1128 3 года назад +5

    Imagine if Def Jam or the dozens of other labels able to reach out did. Suge got Pac on the effort. Thats it.

  • @m.b.2938
    @m.b.2938 3 года назад +1

    Addicted to this channel. REAL ADDICTED. cant wait for the next

  • @yayabanxxx1175
    @yayabanxxx1175 3 года назад +40

    Keyshia Cole said that Tupac was gonna leave Death Row and sign with Quincy Jones.
    That shouldn't be a surprise. Quincy and Pac were tight, and Suge Knight didn't do right by his artists.

    • @jalengibson2739
      @jalengibson2739 3 года назад +15

      you so damn fine 🤦🏾

    • @imthebest7290
      @imthebest7290 3 года назад +1

      Didn’t do right? Is that southern slang

    • @mariotaylor2390
      @mariotaylor2390 3 года назад +4

      Yea if it was anyone Pac was gonna marry it would've been his daughter so that would've been a life save for him.

    • @makavelinasir2545
      @makavelinasir2545 3 года назад +3

      i honestly think he was gonna leave as well

    • @mediaguy4037
      @mediaguy4037 3 года назад +9

      Quincy jones is a closet homosexual. Your point?

  • @Panther-
    @Panther- 3 года назад +7

    I was like 11 when Tupac joined Deathrow,and its amazing to me that even at that young age I remember vividly thinking that was a bad move because Tupac was a conscious rapper and Deathrow just had a negative vibe to me, I also remember thinking why didn't anyone else offer to bail him Outland because Suge bailed him out, he was now basically sages slave,even though I liked snoop and the Dogg pound,I just felt he wouldn't fit with them, even at 11 years old I remember thinking this way and that things wud not end well..its just funny that asa child I was able to sense it and eventually it did go wrong smh whats the point in saying he had friends like madonna and such with millions but cud not afford to bail him out

  • @poeticmindshifttv7568
    @poeticmindshifttv7568 3 года назад +16

    So how did 2Pac estate end up with Warner Brothers, If Pac felt some type of way about that label before he passed? Is Quincy the reason why Afeni chose Warner's Brothers to take over Tupac music?? Man the music industry is crazy especially on the business side.

    • @bjc4204
      @bjc4204 3 года назад +4

      Well, Tom Whaley has control. Affeni must've been ok with it. Quincy Jones didn't gaf about Pac. He never even came to see him as he lay dying in Vegas. Yet, he made MILLIONS off of Pac after his death. SMFH. It's all about the Benjamins baby.

    • @sassyfrass7029
      @sassyfrass7029 3 года назад

      Wasn’t Warner the real parent company behind Interscope and Death Row?

  • @chadwilliams6026
    @chadwilliams6026 3 года назад +2

    Im a huge fan of Pac. I think Suge did put in a battery in his back a little.......but its like this......Pac was already Pac and Suge and deathrow just added cherry to the cake. Before death row, Pac was already a general at heart. Young and rebellious before death row. If you look at the interview with him on the beach after just getting out of prison. He said something like about he’s a general and he like to give orders.... if you look a speech he had when he was young young. (Black Panther)He was cursing and everything on the speech and one of the men told him to stop cursing. And he kept cursing. Basically you could see the fire in everything he did. Passionate and going hard at what he felt. So he was already a general at heart anyways, he just never had a strong foundation. So he already was pissed he’s in prison for no reason and felt like people set him up to get shot. He said that as well about he thought his people wouldn’t never harm him. So he came out on fuck it mode. And on top of that he was already a general at heart and on top of that you come out of prison balling on your enemies. Album and songs doing better than theirs, you have a militant mind organizing, and had millions. Yea he let it get to his head. But its kinda hard to not let it get to your head. Especially when you already like that. Its like a shooter having a gun but he’s not shooting people because he doesnt have bullets..... give him the bullets, watch he kill.... same as pac. Give Pac, that’s already a general a military(death row) and he is going cause destruction.

  • @adonali3167
    @adonali3167 3 года назад +2

    Marcus Garvey’s (#35) THE DON’T’S
    The following is a list of things, most of which have been discussed, that the Afrikan Master Student MUST AVOID AT ALL COST
    #1. DON’T allow SUPERFICIALITIES to keep You from Your People. (graduate vs. undergraduate, athlete vs. non-althete, professional vs. non-professional, middle class vs. lower class, north vs south, east vs west, Man vs. Woman, science vs. liberal arts, Democrat vs. Republican, Greek vs. non-Greek, Caribbean vs United States of Amerika).
    #2. DON’T allow Yourself to develop an ELITIST MENTALITY.
    #3 DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DIVIDE and CONQUER You.
    #4. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to PICK and CHOOSE Your Leaders.
    #5. DON’T become a SLAVE to Money or Position.
    #6. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to USE, ABUSE, or MISTREAT You or Your People.
    #7. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to SET Your Standards goals or Objectives.
    #8. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and SELECT Your Ideology(Highest Values).
    #9. DON’T become a SLAVE to Material Things.
    #10. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DRUG or LURE You to Sleep(cousin of death).
    #11. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DEMEAN or DEHUMANIZE Your Heritage.
    #12. DON’T ACCEPT Something simply because the Enemy(European Colonist) says You SHOULD.
    #13. DON”T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and REPRESENT Your Interest.
    #14. DON’T work AGAINST Your People.
    #15. DON’T MISTREAT Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #16. DON’T promote VALUES and PRACTICES that are ANTI-Afrikan
    #17. DON’T choose INDIVIDUALISM over Peoplehood and Community.
    #18. DON’T DISCUSS Family Problems in Public or with the Enemy(European Colonist).
    #19. DON’T celebrate EUROPEAN COLONIST HOLIDAY’S.
    #20. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DICTATE Your Methods for Struggle.
    #21. DON’T support things that DISRUPT Unity, Organization, and Peoplehood.
    #22. DON’T allow Yourself to become APATHETIC, APOLITICAL, PASSIVE or PESSIMISTIC.
    #23. DON’T act on EMOTION.
    #24. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DISARM You.
    #25. DON’T do things that IMPEDE(Jeopardize) the struggle.
    #26. DON’T REJECT Values, Lifestyles, and Traditions that Make Your Culture Unique.
    #27. DON’T SUPPORT Artist, Businesses, Politicians, Organizations, or Institutions that EXPLOIT the Afrkan Community in this Country or Abroad.
    #28. DON’T BETRAY Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #29. DON’T practice INEQUALITY, SEXISM, or CLASSISM.
    #30. DON’T PATRONIZE Corporations, Institutions, or Organizations that VIOLATE Afrikan Intersest.
    #31. DON’T do the DIRTY WORK of the Enemy (European Colonist).
    #32. DON’T run from ADVERSITY.
    #33. DON’T be AFRAID to Fight Back.
    #34. DON’T DEFEAT Yourself or Your People before the Battle even begins.
    #35. DON’T EXPLOIT Your People.
    Document Complete
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    • @davidthejuggler6754
      @davidthejuggler6754 3 года назад

      King - i bow down to you. Thats some deep unheard of gem. Hope many can benefit from it. Wow.

  • @DJGary0910
    @DJGary0910 3 года назад +26

    I can't help but laugh that somehow MC Hammer is just randomly in the mist of the gangsta shit like Hammer always been G despite what people thought but on death row he like this ordained Blood automatically just based off Suge connect observing and rolling with the flow I would've never imagined Hammer was that deep in it

    • @TheJuarezG
      @TheJuarezG 3 года назад +10

      His brother been off that shit, everybody knew not to cross Hammer, his crew didn't take nothing from nobody.

    • @BigUnk49
      @BigUnk49 3 года назад +7

      don't sleep on Hammer,Hammer was not to be fucked with

    • @gangstamack8397
      @gangstamack8397 3 года назад +2

      Suge Knight was already Hammer bodyguard in the late 80's

    • @seven0hhsavage
      @seven0hhsavage 3 года назад +5

      Checkout Redmans interview where he talks about Hammer.

    • @DJGary0910
      @DJGary0910 3 года назад +1

      @@gangstamack8397 thought he was just for Bobby Brown and Doc i knew they met around that time late 89 early 90

  • @HarpoTime
    @HarpoTime 3 года назад +8

    Pac had been shot by a NY street gang. When he joined deathrow, that gave him the support to go against anyone. I dont think tracks like "hit em up, against all odds" etc. Would have been made if pac didn't have the street support from deathrow. Pac wanted to prove his loyalty and his realness and he jumped baby face. Life moves fast, the street and the music got mixed up and it's sad

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 3 года назад

      Lol wasn’t no street gang

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад

      @@Synchronite What wasn't?

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 3 года назад

      @@kevinlee9929
      The ppl who robbed Pac were not in a gang lol

  • @matrix2030x
    @matrix2030x 3 года назад +30

    aint no way i would let my 12 yr old daughter hang around deathrow records...i wouldn't have left her outta my sight

    • @LankyJay601
      @LankyJay601 3 года назад +22

      Look who her mama was 😂

    • @90svintageflava36
      @90svintageflava36 3 года назад +1

      💯

    • @Betoven81
      @Betoven81 3 года назад

      @@LankyJay601 who

    • @matrix2030x
      @matrix2030x 3 года назад +1

      @@91booboo yea Monica was 12 singing "jus one of them days" lol

    • @JaeRoc6
      @JaeRoc6 3 года назад +2

      you must dont know Frankie 😂😂

  • @jayskywalker5049
    @jayskywalker5049 3 года назад +4

    PAC WAS HURT AND NEVER HEALED

  • @Hypergamousqueen
    @Hypergamousqueen 3 года назад +8

    How you not gonna know how to market keyshia cole when Monica and brandy was doing the same shit at the time??? Cmon bruh 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 3 года назад

      They couldn't market mich'ele so I ain't surprised

  • @TheOneAboveAll_
    @TheOneAboveAll_ 3 года назад +16

    Has Hammer done any interviews about Deathrow?

  • @wearefitnow
    @wearefitnow 3 года назад +2

    The saddest part in all this other than big and pac being killed is that we are talking about a black business (Death Row) that today could easily be valued at north of a hundred billion dollars

  • @winstonmcfarlane1038
    @winstonmcfarlane1038 3 года назад +4

    Tupac was on that Rowdy Sh*t Way Before DR & Suge just allow Pac Do Him

  • @d-money314
    @d-money314 3 года назад +7

    Keisha cole was around pac because her brother is nutso pac homie so keisha cole is certified Keep bringing the 🔥🔥🔥 art of Dialogue makaveli lives on

  • @PVB06
    @PVB06 3 года назад +2

    Can you get an interview with Danny Boy? That would be real interesting!

  • @kiara198923
    @kiara198923 3 года назад

    Its 2:06a.m here in Jacksonville, Florida and I'm up working on my assignments for class [I'm in school for medical billing & coding] & watching this while I wait on my pain meds to kick in because my sickle cell is trying to act up.
    Great content!

  • @Aj-me8mo
    @Aj-me8mo Год назад +4

    RIP Kurt Kobane! Gone but never forgotten 🙏

    • @TianaLove
      @TianaLove Год назад +4

      He died fr? I still haven’t seen anything about this

    • @Aj-me8mo
      @Aj-me8mo Год назад

      @@TianaLove yup, Reggie Wright jr confirmed it on a video he did. Great producer gone too soon

  • @drummajor101
    @drummajor101 3 года назад +20

    *I wish he would ask him about the Death Row chain that he's wearing like is it one of the original ones or what?*

    • @UMIRINBRAH
      @UMIRINBRAH 3 года назад +6

      No it’s king ice one u can buy one for 120

    • @dariusmccray614
      @dariusmccray614 3 года назад +3

      Right right right I heard Tupac was giving his artist makaveli chains inform us about that lmao

    • @lartsashulrhak7513
      @lartsashulrhak7513 3 года назад

      Back Then Everyone Had Gold
      & No-one Rocked Silver TBH.

    • @user-fq4jo7tw5k
      @user-fq4jo7tw5k 3 года назад

      I wondered if it's the original one too!

  • @petervanna6602
    @petervanna6602 3 года назад +3

    Pac was the same way he was before he was in death row. I hate when people say death row changed him. It just made him more of what he was. Loud and always opinionated

  • @VisionBeyond-us6iq
    @VisionBeyond-us6iq 3 года назад +4

    Tupac died because he was Tupac not because he joined Death Row. But because he fully believed himself and counted on himself to be himself in the midst of the MOB corporation

  • @westsidetillidieog
    @westsidetillidieog 3 года назад +1

    Not Ice Cube it was Ice-T with Body Count who sing Cop Killer under warner. I heard there was a music video for but was banned and never released.

  • @jarrodcook449
    @jarrodcook449 3 года назад +6

    Suge was the boss not the capo

  • @unclejj9600
    @unclejj9600 3 года назад +3

    Well what would make since is if your money isn't right and you have no control over it , you will downsize to get more peace

  • @uncletee8070
    @uncletee8070 3 года назад +2

    I love all these interviews y'all do especially with this guy

  • @jeffmoore9981
    @jeffmoore9981 3 года назад +6

    He was a great talent , but in life we all have limitations,,we have to learn them , he should looked around at was going on with the people around himself , ,cause music business is ruff on people

    • @bjc4204
      @bjc4204 3 года назад +1

      Yeah. He didn't become a millionaire until after his death smfh.

  • @grandam
    @grandam 3 года назад +4

    Pac should've joined No Limit Records. Master P would have helped him get his own record label and movie productions. Snoop left broke and joined No Limit and got back on his feet with P teaching him the business side of the rap industry.

    • @colossus112785
      @colossus112785 3 года назад +1

      I've always said that too P would've saved Pac's life forreal and I think P did say that he was originally gonna bail Pac out

    • @grandam
      @grandam 3 года назад

      @@colossus112785 Yeah him and Pac was tight and a lot of people don't know that. Master P took 2Pac on tour with him and a lot of people always saying that P bit off Pac style but little do they know Pac was bumping Master P music. P always shouted out to Pac because that was his homeboy. P showed LOVE not BITING his music. P did a lot of underground stuff for the rap game and helped a countless number of rappers and stars behind closed doors. A lot of people don't know he paid outta his pocket for 50 Cent's first tour. A lotta people don't know he gave Eddie Griffin a million dollars outta his pocket for the movie Foolish. A lotta people don't know that J Prince and P are like family and J Prince helped pay for P's record store when P lived in Cali getting on his feet. P got a policy from his grandfather's death and put the money up towards the record store and J Prince paid the other half for the record store. People say P got ran outta Texas with the Pimp C incident by J Prince and that's totally FALSE.

  • @cworld8896
    @cworld8896 3 года назад +3

    It was Suge negligence and misguiding .

  • @ogarchielee9880
    @ogarchielee9880 3 года назад +2

    2PAC =FIRE
    DEATH ROW = FUEL

  • @keshawng2233
    @keshawng2233 3 года назад +2

    Keyshia cole really was 14 at the time. She was born Oct 81’

  • @jasonspurley492
    @jasonspurley492 3 года назад +9

    Real talk bro 💯 Tru

  • @dkscott331
    @dkscott331 3 года назад +3

    J Prince woulda had Pac's shit on point. Didn't have the pull at the time or whatever. But Pac down South imo, woulda been good for him financially and mentally. And they woulda held him TF DOWN 💯. I'm a Philly dude, but even I can see this.

    • @jrm3995
      @jrm3995 3 года назад

      I'm from texas...we say the same shit...I think his music with a southern sound would've been dope

    • @Synchronite
      @Synchronite 3 года назад +1

      J wasn’t paying his artist either
      According to Big Mike, Bun and even Face

    • @dkscott331
      @dkscott331 3 года назад

      @@Synchronite sad. And SO SO Def wouldn't have worked, not sure about Laface. But anywhere outside of Death Row.

  • @Chico_84
    @Chico_84 3 года назад +1

    Have a Sit Down & Interview McHammer Oakland Living Legend.

  • @PaleZeus
    @PaleZeus 3 года назад +1

    These interviews are Gold 🎯🔥

  • @MrBean617
    @MrBean617 3 года назад +4

    Again, Keyshia was 14 going on 15...

  • @ruben21
    @ruben21 3 года назад +2

    "Death Row gave birth to a new seed, Makaveli Records Feel me now, yeah"
    Why is this still a question when Pac been said it himself. He was not leaving Death Row.

  • @teddybruckshut7361
    @teddybruckshut7361 2 года назад +2

    From a real 2Pac fan I would have to agree with Curt.PAC should have gave Suge his part of the deal and got the _uck on.

  • @dkscott331
    @dkscott331 3 года назад +1

    Quincy stepped in on that beef he had with LL, makes sense he'd be involved.

  • @hongceequan2364
    @hongceequan2364 3 года назад +4

    Pac didn't have a contract with Death Row that's why he only had 60k and some jewelry when he died and his mother had to sue. If Suge Knight was really his friend he would have made sure Pac paperwork was straight.

    • @toorealforearth1981
      @toorealforearth1981 3 года назад

      How could he when Pac was still signed to Interscope maybe Suge told him that if he change his name and start a record label then he could leave Interscope or maybe he made those albums that fast so he could get off of Interscope cause they were the ones fucking him around

    • @chrisgreatness6953
      @chrisgreatness6953 3 года назад

      @@toorealforearth1981 Death Row was with Interscope too so it would have been so easy for him to get that contract done.

  • @timlenord1
    @timlenord1 3 года назад +6

    I guess now everybody bowing down to Mattel cause they own Death row

  • @ShoeCrewTV
    @ShoeCrewTV 3 года назад +1

    Pac fired DAVID Kenner a couple days before he died. Pac was leaving and it was because he wasn't seeing his money and only getting a allowance. Suge lost every asset through the way he ran things. He let Dre go only after he gave up his master's and snoop is talented but he wasn't as impactful without Dre. Then for Pac to walk what would death row be??? Nothing because the truth was people came there to work with dre. Once he left people really didn't have a purpose to go to deathrow. Suge had gangs and police in his back pocket that's why when Frank Alexander said the shooter shot like police it's because it was a off duty Compton police officer that shot Pac.

  • @shekinawashington
    @shekinawashington 3 года назад +2

    Ummm, y these dudes b so comfortable w/ hanging around kids 😕

  • @carineskyy1952
    @carineskyy1952 3 года назад +13

    I believe Keyshia Cole.. Pac was definitely plotting on leaving death row

    • @JaeRoc6
      @JaeRoc6 3 года назад +1

      all facts 💯

    • @bjc4204
      @bjc4204 3 года назад

      I also believe her. He had distanced himself from Deathrow towards the end, according to Affeni had other family members.

  • @Shon_G.
    @Shon_G. 3 года назад +6

    I remember his jmix interview he said Pac was a shot caller in the mob piru set.

    • @NYKnicks33
      @NYKnicks33 3 года назад

      Tupac was never a damn shot caller in the set...stop it.
      Watch the interviews with Mob James.

    • @Polostar79
      @Polostar79 3 года назад

      Tupac was a damn follower. Stop it.

    • @Shon_G.
      @Shon_G. 3 года назад +10

      @@NYKnicks33 dickhead that’s what he said stupid look up his name and jmix it’ll come up travon lane said it and also nobody fucked with mob James he wasn’t even around shortly after Tupac got out

    • @Shon_G.
      @Shon_G. 3 года назад +4

      @@Polostar79 fuck are you talking about pussy it’s the niggaz words that was in the mob . Y’all feel to realize all those niggaz loved Pac he also was intelligent so niggaz followed him.

    • @realeyez3718
      @realeyez3718 3 года назад +2

      @@NYKnicks33 Mob James Was A Drunk Sent To One Stop , F Outta Here

  • @weightupfree1694
    @weightupfree1694 Год назад +1

    Daaaamn; I was 2day years old when I found out Keyshia Cole was around dis shit

  • @PoliticsAzUsualAsItSeems
    @PoliticsAzUsualAsItSeems 3 года назад +2

    Mannnn please... They act like pac had no heart on his own...

  • @209greatest
    @209greatest 3 года назад +4

    Pac been had power. In order to know that you have to talk to people before hand. He was involved on getting a lot of rappers jewelry back and protection from real goons. Death Row was just a place that increased it even more. Unfortunately, it caused him his life.

  • @jaykriss724
    @jaykriss724 3 года назад +6

    Can you guys talk more about the mob Pirus bloods in suges circle ?

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад

      I don't think Kurt is going to talk much about MOB lol

  • @colossus112785
    @colossus112785 3 года назад +2

    Alains Morrisette was gonna sign with Makaveli Records her and Pac was real tight

  • @doctordef324
    @doctordef324 2 года назад +1

    Kesha Cole was a little pre teen!!!! She wasn't seriously doing anything...Tupac didn't talk to Kesha Cole like that! He was like "look at this little girl", "stay outta trouble!!" Go somewhere and play!"

  • @jantelagen4262
    @jantelagen4262 3 года назад +8

    Why was Orlando Anderson alone in that lobby? Where did he meet up with the three other guys? If Trayvon Lane was such a gangbanger and Orlando allegedly tried to snatch his chain months earlier, why didn’t he rushed Orlando himself? Why did he whisper in Pacs ear about it? To make Pac rush him, so the assassination then could look like a logical retaliation.
    What were Reggie Wright Sr & Greg Kading and other Compton cops doing in Las Vegas that night?
    How did Orlando Anderson and the three other guys allegedly find Pac & Suge randomly in traffic 2 hours after Pac jumped Orlando? Besides that how did they found them exactly when they are standing still at a red light, that made it even better for the shooters, also how come the lane to the right of Pac & Suge were empty, perfect for the shooters to be able to roll all the way up to them without any car blocking their way. What happend with everybody saying there were alot of traffic that night, on a hot Saturday night after a Tyson fight in downtown Las Vegas.
    The police stopped Suge & Pac like 10-15 minutes before the shooting because Suge were playing the music loud and not having registration plates on the car, he had them in the trunk because it was a new car. Anyway, why didn’t the police arrest them, then & there for jumping Orlando Anderson 2 hours earlier.
    Police in cop cars, police on bikes, probably undercover police and the feds at the scene too, witnesses, cameras, police helicopter. With all that, how did the shooters get away?
    One of Pacs bodyguards Michael Moore, said that someone on the Nextel phone or whatever they are called, said ”Got him” or ”Got em”, when Pac got shot. Then someone else came over on the radio and said don’t talk on the radio.
    Michael Moore, Frank Alexander & Russell Poole, all of them believed Reggie Wright Jr had a hand in Pacs assassination. Where are they now? All three of them died like within months apart from eachother. Kevin Hackie also believed Reggie Wright Jr had something to do with Pacs death but since the other three guys who believed the same thing passed away, now Kevin Hackie don’t speak up anymore.
    Mopreme Shakur said that Orlando Anderson was just a pawn.
    In the 2002 documentary ”Biggie & Tupac”, the documentarian Nick Bloomfield has a picture of Gene, Diddy & Puff, a picture taken either when they arrived or left that Vibe Magazine party in LA.
    Nick Broomfield calls the man who took that picture on the phone, that man was working for the FBI. What was he doing at the scene? If the feds were at the scene when BIG got killed, that means they must’ve been on the scene when Pac got killed too.
    So how come the killers didn’t get caught in both cases when the feds were even at the scene when the shootings took place.
    Also, if there really were a deadly west coast vs east coast beef, if Diddy was behind Pacs death, you really think he would dare to show up to LA with BIG only 6 months after Pac got killed?
    Diddy maybe had something to do with it on a shady satanic music industry level but not on a street level.
    Diddy sacrificed Biggie as Gene has indicated. Diddy helped the thing look like an east vs west thing when it really wasn’t that serious.
    Sorry for my rant but I’m passionate about these two cases.
    When not one but two high profile cases don’t get solved, that means the police were in on it.
    To everybody from LA saying, everbody been known it was Orlando and a war broke out in Compton after that and blabla. They put a crip in the lobby of that hotel, ofcourse people back in LA would believe it’s a gangbanging thing.
    They wouldn’t put a square there for Pac to punch because then the shooting wouldn’t seem logical. It would’ve looked like that shooting came out of nowhere, therefore then the assassination would’ve been too obvious.
    Suge Knight said, if you solve one case, you solve the other. What does that tell you? That there wasn’t two different groups who fought eachother. The same group behind Pacs death were also behind Biggies death.
    The narrative that Pac was a MOB Piru is a narrative that Reggie Wright Jr is spreading, to make the death look even more like a gangbanging incident when in reality Reggie Wright Jr had a hand in Pacs assassination.
    ”Homie I don’t give a fuck if you blood or cuz, as long as you got love for thugs” - Tupac
    ”I don’t bang for the colours, I bang for the principles” - Tupac
    Huge Pac fan from Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪

    • @jantelagen4262
      @jantelagen4262 3 года назад +1

      @ali baba Sorry but I don’t buy that. They said that they allegedly waited outside of Club 662. Why drive away from there when it was 100 % sure that Pac would show up there sooner or later. What did they think? Oh, lets go drive around Las Vegas and randomly find him.
      Don’t get me wrong, ofcourse I have heard that too, but what I’m saying is, I don’t believe that’s how it went down

    • @roxxylala26
      @roxxylala26 3 года назад +1

      @@jantelagen4262 You need to research the real story before making assumptions.

    • @jantelagen4262
      @jantelagen4262 3 года назад +2

      @@roxxylala26 The real story? You are making assumptions yourself by saying that. What is the real story? There is no real story. People have different beliefs. The case was never officially solved. No one got sentenced

    • @roxxylala26
      @roxxylala26 3 года назад

      @@jantelagen4262 What happened was there was a huge group of them w/Orlando &Keefe D. When they went to 662 club to wait for Pac & them. It was taking awhile. So some them didn't want to keep waiting so the group split up. Besides Mob James part of Suge's crew working door security peeped the Crips out there waiting. Some went on to a van & Orlando & Keefe D & 2 others went on to the Cadillac. They decided to go to a liquor store nearby. When they got their liquor & driving on the Vegas strip in the opposite direction they saw Pac sticking out his car's sunroof when the groupies were yelling out to Tupac. That's when they turn the car around & heading to do the drive-by.

    • @Betoven81
      @Betoven81 3 года назад +3

      Bro u pulling me back in with this whole 2pac conspiracy thing. Too many holes in the official story. The first thing that came out when Pac was killed was how Suge had something to do with it. I mean who put that narrative out? And a random gang bang killing is one thing but...to drive out to Vegas on a fight night????mike Tyson mind you???? If anybody been to vegas and even back then, there was always people out at all times. How come no one saw a thing??? Wasn’t there reports of eye witnesses that were missing? 2pac being cremated so quick? Too much for just some randomness