I miss these! They stopped showing up; I haven't seen one in many months here. I don't think that's a K5H. Those haven't been i stalled new on CSX stuff in YEARS and that's definitely a newer horn!
Does NOT sound like any properly-tuned K5H I have ever heard...it must be broken, or hooked up wrong, then! :P Completely different from the proper K5Hs I hear on the C40s.
Great video! I love watching those old 4-axle GE U-boats in operation! I live by NS's mainline and all I ever see these days are those huge 6-axle ES44's and SD70's. I'm afraid the 4-axle road units are going the way of the dinosaurs.
You should hear 5 GE U26Cs lashed up hauling a coal drag up the Otira grade through the Otira tunnel on the west coast of New Zealand. Like the God of Thunder rolling through. Our clunky old U-boats run 7FDL-12 at around 25-2800hp (except the two DXR class U-boats which are around 3300hp)
Probably very similar to the old B36-7s CSX used to have, which they got from the Seaboard System. Lovely sound, just like this B40 here, but with less muffler!
The two DXR's started out life as U-boats but were rebuilt into C-axle Dash 8s (C30-8Mi is their GE designation), just sent you a link to our crusty old shit, a blown 12-645 paired with a Uboat 7FDL-12
nice catch! there are some of those locomotives in Peru too, actually most of those are ex-Conrail loco's or NS loco's, a week ago there have just arrived a couple of C40-8W locomotives ex-CSX 7311 and 7374
Your last comment didn't show up on the video for some stupid reason, but the answer is exhaust silencers! Later model locomotives have bigger mufflers on them, which make the engines sound quieter.
Just out of curiosity, what makes the chug sound and why does it stop and start again right past the crossing? I saw another video of some old U boats pulling hard, and every 10-15 seconds the chugging would stop then start right back up but at slower speed.
Adam Hill It's a characteristic sound of the GE prime mover. Many complex things come together to cause a specific engine's unique sound, such as interior geometry, exhaust systems, turbocharging, etc.
Adam Hill ... Another possibility is if the loco's wheelslip sensors pick up any slippage of the wheels, a signal will be sent to the engine ECM to reduce power output until the best possible traction is achieved (re-achieved), and then the engine can power up hard again. In the case in this video, it's unlikely to be due to a weather issue, but still, it's a very small contact patch where the wheels meet the railhead. Any foreign substance on the rails can cause the first one or two axles to lose their grip even if only for a moment. The sanders may apply sand either before power gets reduced or as power is being reduced (depending on what settings are selected in the software), but sometimes it just doesn't happen fast enough, the axle(s) break traction, sensor picks up a differential in speed, and the penalty is reduced power. A more robust, intelligent traction control system can reduce the electrical load to the affected axles while keeping full power to the ones with better traction. All of this is supposed to happen basically without outside interference (from the operator), but so matter whether man or machine, nothing happens perfectly every single time. As the poster of this video has mentioned, in this case it appears to be the operator easing back the throttle, as the train does appear to coast to a stop shortly hereafter in the video.
Eric Posey It was to standardize their switching fleet on 2,000 horsepower, and to minimize wheelslip (they were pushing 1,000 HP per axle!), but they're all gone now ._.
@@SpeakerPolice I wasn't talking about the down rating, i was talking about the reason why they are gone, the only DC engines CSX is keeping are the SD40s, GP38/40s and maybe a few SD50s, the rest are being upgraded with electronics for DP consist running (hence the 7000 and 7200 numbers) PS- a few SD70s too just so its not strictly GE wide bodies.
@@alexander1485 The fleet change isn't related to PTC either, at least not directly. Fleet modernization and standardization are at play. The Geeps are kept around because they're still the best units for yard switching. (Damn straight!) EDIT: The SD50s are gone, much to my disappointment, along with all SD60 variants, SD70Ms, and most other six-axle EMDs except for the SD40s and a handful of SD70MACs (and of course the SD70ACe-T4s)
This thing has a wonderful K5H! May I have permission to use this video in making a hornsound for Trainz 12? (Credit for the sounds will be given to you.)
SpeakerPolice Thanks! To me, it sounds amazing. I used to see standard cabs, and occasional b30-7s, all the time on the Willard Sub, up here in Ohio. I miss em.
^.^ i like it watch this video GE U 18 C / 7fdl-8 / number body CC 201 / Indonesia locomotive CC 201 07 + CC 201 101 with Gaya Baru Malam Selatan Train.wmv CC 201 83 17 ft KA Bogowonto ls Stasiun Ciledug
Turning it up all the way on headphones was the best pain my ears have ever felt :D
Almost as good as being there, eh? :P
+SpeakerPolice just about lol
My god, that's awesome! The K5HL horns actually sound a little better on the Dash 8s with the manual valve
That’s a K5H
Ah... a CSX B20-8 (still a B40-8 at heart) with marker lights, a K5H, AND a nice-sounding chug?! That's awesome! =D
I miss these! They stopped showing up; I haven't seen one in many months here. I don't think that's a K5H. Those haven't been i stalled new on CSX stuff in YEARS and that's definitely a newer horn!
*INSTALLED
SpeakerPolice
It's a K5H.
Does NOT sound like any properly-tuned K5H I have ever heard...it must be broken, or hooked up wrong, then! :P Completely different from the proper K5Hs I hear on the C40s.
+SpeakerPolice It's probably worn out from years of service.There is your answer.
Yep. This thing reminds me of a P42 Amtrak locomotive with its sound. It even has a little *soot* when it’s pulling hard.
Same 7FDL16 engine!
Great video! I love watching those old 4-axle GE U-boats in operation! I live by NS's mainline and all I ever see these days are those huge 6-axle ES44's and SD70's. I'm afraid the 4-axle road units are going the way of the dinosaurs.
Indeed, though CSX will have GP40s forever, it seems!
It's not a U boat it's a dash 8
The 4 axles used to look weird to me (on anything other than a GP) as a kid being used to seeing 6 axles more often
love the sound of these locomotives, emd has it whine, and ge has its chug sound. emd sound powerful pushing, but ge sounds better pulling..
CSX 5961 is apparently an ex-Conrail unit
Yes, built in '88 as CR 5087
Although I love the sound of emd just can’t beat the chug and roar of a ge
I'm basically the opposite but I love 'em all!
SpeakerPolice well that’s what makes us all different and ourselves man💪
WHY...do we like that sound so much......
@@ColAngus I don't know but we sure do!
You should hear 5 GE U26Cs lashed up hauling a coal drag up the Otira grade through the Otira tunnel on the west coast of New Zealand. Like the God of Thunder rolling through. Our clunky old U-boats run 7FDL-12 at around 25-2800hp (except the two DXR class U-boats which are around 3300hp)
Probably very similar to the old B36-7s CSX used to have, which they got from the Seaboard System. Lovely sound, just like this B40 here, but with less muffler!
+SpeakerPolice The B36s and B40s are 7FDL16s.
The two DXR's started out life as U-boats but were rebuilt into C-axle Dash 8s (C30-8Mi is their GE designation), just sent you a link to our crusty old shit, a blown 12-645 paired with a Uboat 7FDL-12
+Reflex Photography NZ 'Crusty old shit' sure sounds nice! I miss GE 7FDLs with no mufflers...
nice catch! there are some of those locomotives in Peru too, actually most of those are ex-Conrail loco's or NS loco's, a week ago there have just arrived a couple of C40-8W locomotives ex-CSX 7311 and 7374
Awesome to hear they are still getting second lives!
Sounds very similar to a P32AC-DM’s prime mover, except with a more defined chug. Very cool!
That's what happens when you add four more cylinders :P
SpeakerPolice is the B20-8s had 7FDL-8’s?
Did*
@@turbochargedtransit7241 All the B20 is, is a horsepower derated B40. Same 7FDL16 engine, just derated to 2,000 HP
SpeakerPolice huh. P32AC-DMs use a 7FDL12, and they don’t chug as much as that!
don't forget that the class lights are on too :D
Check my most recent uploads to see the UP 1949. I believe CSX is leasing or buying some of these GP60s from UP!
What's with the class lights being on?!?! most are blocked out or shut off!!! That's super cool!
Wow that's absolutely awesome great job and that locomotive is a ex conrail
Thank you!
@@SpeakerPolice no problem keep up the awesome work!
Nice video love that chug sound! At 1:14 I can see the new CFRC crossing I'd on the crossing that the FDOT put there
IT HAD MARKER LIGHTS ON?!?!?
Sweet love the oldies
I sure do miss them!
And with that, time traveled old timey people consider these things the future steam locomotives. -_-
Thanks
Eric Posey No problem!
this good but nothing will ever chug like the u36c
Same engine actually :B
Your last comment didn't show up on the video for some stupid reason, but the answer is exhaust silencers! Later model locomotives have bigger mufflers on them, which make the engines sound quieter.
Just out of curiosity, what makes the chug sound and why does it stop and start again right past the crossing? I saw another video of some old U boats pulling hard, and every 10-15 seconds the chugging would stop then start right back up but at slower speed.
Adam Hill That's just the engineer letting off the throttle a bit :P
SpeakerPolice what makes the "chug" sound? Is it just a function of combustion plus low RPM plus very little muffling?
Adam Hill It's a characteristic sound of the GE prime mover. Many complex things come together to cause a specific engine's unique sound, such as interior geometry, exhaust systems, turbocharging, etc.
the individual bursts of exhaust from each combustion.
Adam Hill ... Another possibility is if the loco's wheelslip sensors pick up any slippage of the wheels, a signal will be sent to the engine ECM to reduce power output until the best possible traction is achieved (re-achieved), and then the engine can power up hard again. In the case in this video, it's unlikely to be due to a weather issue, but still, it's a very small contact patch where the wheels meet the railhead. Any foreign substance on the rails can cause the first one or two axles to lose their grip even if only for a moment. The sanders may apply sand either before power gets reduced or as power is being reduced (depending on what settings are selected in the software), but sometimes it just doesn't happen fast enough, the axle(s) break traction, sensor picks up a differential in speed, and the penalty is reduced power. A more robust, intelligent traction control system can reduce the electrical load to the affected axles while keeping full power to the ones with better traction. All of this is supposed to happen basically without outside interference (from the operator), but so matter whether man or machine, nothing happens perfectly every single time. As the poster of this video has mentioned, in this case it appears to be the operator easing back the throttle, as the train does appear to coast to a stop shortly hereafter in the video.
Is that 7fdl-8 or fdl-16?
7FDL16. The only non-export GE diesel to use the 7FDL8 was the U18B.
@@SpeakerPolice wow a 2000hp locomotive use 7fdl-16.very beast!
@@alwaysphone4630 It's a derated 4,000 horsepower engine, achieved by installing smaller fuel pumps. CSX did this to save fuel.
@@SpeakerPolice are they also derated the tractive effort sir?how much the new tractive effort is sir?
@@alwaysphone4630 That I can't tell you, but it's probably not down by much.
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Why did CSX downgrade so many B40-8S to B20-8s.
Eric Posey It was to standardize their switching fleet on 2,000 horsepower, and to minimize wheelslip (they were pushing 1,000 HP per axle!), but they're all gone now ._.
@@SpeakerPolice blame PTC
@@alexander1485 Lmao PTC had nothing to do with the downrating...that was done in an attempt to save fuel :P
@@SpeakerPolice I wasn't talking about the down rating, i was talking about the reason why they are gone, the only DC engines CSX is keeping are the SD40s, GP38/40s and maybe a few SD50s, the rest are being upgraded with electronics for DP consist running (hence the 7000 and 7200 numbers) PS- a few SD70s too just so its not strictly GE wide bodies.
@@alexander1485 The fleet change isn't related to PTC either, at least not directly. Fleet modernization and standardization are at play. The Geeps are kept around because they're still the best units for yard switching. (Damn straight!) EDIT: The SD50s are gone, much to my disappointment, along with all SD60 variants, SD70Ms, and most other six-axle EMDs except for the SD40s and a handful of SD70MACs (and of course the SD70ACe-T4s)
Ahhhhhhh! Yeah!!!!👍
This thing has a wonderful K5H! May I have permission to use this video in making a hornsound for Trainz 12? (Credit for the sounds will be given to you.)
Doug F. It's a poor-sounding horn on that valve, but sure! Just credit me and I wanna see when it's done!
SpeakerPolice Thanks! To me, it sounds amazing. I used to see standard cabs, and occasional b30-7s, all the time on the Willard Sub, up here in Ohio. I miss em.
Doug F. Personally I miss the B30s and B36s. Used to get them as switchers in Taft Yard. I ended up with a number board from 5842!
The horn is done! ruclips.net/video/XkZjo-FdeP8/видео.html
Doug F. Nicely done! :D
Can’t hear a thing
Poor diesels, they can imitate the mighty steamers but they won't measure up all the way.
Some of these old GEs act like regular volcanoes some days... :P
SpeakerPolice
Keep in mind though, the diesels are only acting......if you get my meaning....
Yeah...but the ALCos should get some awards for their 'acting'! :P
^.^ i like it
watch this video GE U 18 C / 7fdl-8 / number body CC 201 / Indonesia locomotive
CC 201 07 + CC 201 101 with Gaya Baru Malam Selatan Train.wmv
CC 201 83 17 ft KA Bogowonto ls Stasiun Ciledug