100% agree, personally I have always believed its best to leave your bank in the lobby and transfer things well in the bubble but this would still work well as a middle point between gathering and putting stuff in the bank.
The first good video i found about the changes in Season 2 (namely Balang, Silur, Stonebuildings). I follow you on RUclips and would be happy if you make more great videos like this!
Nice content man. Been playing for a while and found some useful tips. I have a silur walker i was wonder when will you be adding a silur walker base build design for solos and small groups
Thanks!! I have thought about doing a similar build for a silur but with the 250 tile pack it leaves a ton of room for individual customisation based on use and player preference but the building techniques in this video can be applied to a silur base!
NGL, I'm a solo player, and I don't think double walling is my thing for a few reasons. 1. Takes longer to pack and unpack, so if you get caught on short notice, the walker is already gone. 2. If a tribe is willing to use hellfire arrows on a solo Balang base, it probably means they have hellfire to spare, and your base is gone anyways. Just my observations, still a good tutorial.
Gerade deswegen würde ich aber trotzdem Doppelwandig Arbeiten um Angreifer es so schwer wie möglich machen. Wen jemand Höllenfeuer hat und du hast nur eine Wand dann ist der drinnen. Wen du aber Wabenarti baust braucht er pro Wand mindestens 1 Pfeil für sagen wir 1000 Holz. Hat sich für ihn wirklich gelohnt. Nicht.
I believe I placed an unsnapped roof tile over it after it was in place. It may help to angle the roof up one click as long as there's no big holes you should be safe.
That list was made on Lastoasiscrafter . com, its one of a few useful websites I cover in the Web Links section of my New/Returning player guide video. There may be some other useful info in that video worth checking out!
Good video, thanks. The sad thing is though that this is pretty much the only good design you can do with a Balang due to the low 70 piece limit and it feels really cramped. I've messed around with other designs and you can forego the 2nd airlock door for a 2x1 on the second level, but thats about the only change you can make really and still keep the protection of double walls. I feel like for mobile base design to be an interesting thing they need to up the limit to something more like 90 so we can vary the designs at least a little bit.
Thanks for the comment and i 100% agree! 70 is far too low and even the silur with a 250 pack count is too small for the platform! I would love to see some adjustments to pack count and honestly triangle building pieces would add a lot to the building system.
@@spazknot8959 How necessary is the double ceiling in practice? Are there many walkers around that are tall enough to fire Hellfire bolts down at the roof of your Balang base, or can they lob them ontop? Edit: Definitely agree with all you said - triangle pieces would be great.
@@tonyl4890 In all honesty it depends on the location you place your base but 99% of the bases I've encountered you can either build up beside them or use a schmett or a number of other bigger ships to get a view on the roof or more commonly I would find myself dropping a firefly or ballista spider on the roof even in bases with only one layer all the way around. this allows you to drop a exo suit into the base to destroy any large boxes. There's a lot of way to raid a base and if the raiders notice any easier way in they will likely take it.
I’m on Xbox and I’m trying to find the stone buildings and I have no idea where to find them in the construction tab and I spent all my frags can someone explain where it’s at
To unlock stone you have to unlock Sandbag base(3 frags) -> Base maintenance chest (5 frags) -> Stone base (10 frags). I believe you also have to be above level 10 or so.
What happens if you have more parts than the maximum pack count? The pack count that is shown x/74 does the 74 also include boxes etc.? Or does it only stand for the tiles?
After I added the maint chest and placed the Base walker packer beside it, I cant get the roof tile on over it? Is that due to my not placing the walker packer in the correct spot or have I missed something else?
You have to try and place the walker packer in the center of the tile, you could also try unsnapping the roof tile before you place it because this will lift the tile up a bit giving you more room.
So Im thinking about making 2x1 second floor with double (or tripple) walls and use only 1 wall for the first floor. This way, I can put the valuable stuff in the second floor and dont have to care so much about the rest. The second floor will only be accessible through its own door. Question: Is it possible, that the second floor and the chests in it fall down and get destroyed when part of the first floor is destroyed? Question 2: Should I double-stack the bottom of the floor as well?
It all really just depends what you are looking for out of your base. Answer 1: The second level wont drop unless they destroyed all the lower walls connected to it but that's going to be a lot harder than simply busting through the second layer. Answer 2: If you plan to double stack the walls you will only need one layer for the floor (level one counts as the first layer and the floor will count as layer 2) But if you plan to triple stack the walls you will need at least 2 layers on the floor to keep the 3 wall minimum to break in. Hope that wasn't too confusing!
The pack limit only counts towards the building blocks (walls/doors/roofs that kind of stuff). Each item you place in your base adds to the total pack count increasing the time to pack and unpack but it doesnt count towards the limit. So this base will be 70 building tiles and have 20 items placed inside of it.
I have a problem with getting inside, if I dont have the floor in front of the airlock :D I use hook, but I always get on the top of the airlock, isntead of inside :D any tips?
If you have nothing to stand on and hold space bar well trying to get into a door it will usually make you climb on the roof. Grapple placement is important when trying to get in an open door and if possible its best to use the grapple and directional keys to move your character into the open door instead of space bar. Alternatively you can place a floor tile in front of the door to make it easy to get up!
@@spazknot8959 Do you have any idea why when i try to double layer the roof building parts, i can not move mine the small ticks that you have, when i roll my scroll it moves them 45 degrees at a time so im not able to do the layering because its always too much tilting
Normally i dont use them because it can be used to combat lock the base and that prevents building/refilling water but if you wanted to you could open the outside door and place one that way
The only easy way to get a total count is to subtract how many items you have (including maintenance chest) from your over all pack count. The limit is only in regards to building tiles.
Personally I try to only use the packer for when I'm near the base to keep the weight down but I tend to use the spider in there more often than a dinghy. If I'm going to travel I set the base up near the edge and pack my walker there for the jump.
Nice and helpful video, though what I actually wanted to know (how to replace walls built once - I built my building without a window and now want to place a window in it) wasn't mentioned. Maybe someone can help me out? Cheers
Are you planning on putting a window to your main base or in an extra room? The reason I ask is because you can shoot through windows so careful where you place them. As far as deleting and replacing tiles as long as the structure has foundation support from another area you can delete the tile. Ill try and give you a good example. If you place a foundation on the ground and then snap a wall to it then you delete the foundation the wall will break. If you place two foundations and put two walls (one on each, side by side) you can delete one of the foundations with out worry because the other is providing the structure with foundation support. Sorry if that's more confusing than helpful!
Ive actually been on here and there for season 3 but as a PC player some of the changes/glitches have made it hard to get back into. That said I do have a few videos related to season 3 on the way!
If I remove the wall you angle to stack the chests will it remove the chest? I'd like to stack chests but it annoys me how it looks with the current workaround. Great video btw subbed!
When you go to place a building tile down it should show the a menu that will list the toggle snapping feature, it should be lit up if the piece can be unsnapped. If you skip to 3:20 you can see the toggle snapping feature. If the key is different for you it should show on that menu.
I honestly like the Balang and the concept of the Silur, but i think its kinda.... a cheap way to add a challenge to it by making the Silur using only torque to move and cant pack them up into a Panda walker, which can hold even a damn titan with a base packed into said titan ya know? it dont make sense. Thank you for the video! its really well done!
Is it a fact you can't pack it as I thought the only walker no packable was the panda for obvious reasons but yea that is a shame for the Silur and makes camp moving still frustrating.
The Balang and Silur walkers are the only walkers that can pack stone and stone is superior to all other packable base materials as it can only be broken into by hellfire and hull breaker which is much more expensive and hard to make. They also cant crack your balang or silur open with fire arrows and force deploy your base. There is almost no advantage to a standard base anymore other than the ability to pack in a non foundation walker and the ability to pack high count bases. Iron wood bases are the only wood base that is solid status but its extremely expensive for any reasonable size base. Additionally there is no extra defenses for a wood base over a stone base because all deployable items like rupu slingers can be placed on either material. If anything wood bases are far less defended as any zero to hero can farm some fire arrows with ease.
I dont do pvp much myself so I usually run a dinghy that can pack what I need. I'll start running the balang as well. Or do you think I could run a solo balang?
@@torrieitazura4343 No worries thats what im here for! You can totally run a balang by yourself just keep the base as small as possible to keep the unpack time down. When you are unpacking people can get inside a base so you have to be cautious about that but your base is totally safe when packing it up. I use a balang with a 1x2 base on it to farm and try to keep it as empty as possible for mobility.
That only refers to the building tiles (walls, floor, roof, door, ect) everything else you put in it like stations and such add to the total count so it takes longer to pack and unpack but they do not stop it from packing. So this base may have 70 building tiles but it has an addition 20 objects in it. Hope that made sense!
@@spazknot8959 would be awesome. Just looking for different ways to build good bases and take that as a building block to make my own. Granted. I am experimenting. But would still love to see other ideas/builds
Very naise guide Very bad deisgn firstly with loot inside this is going to be insaly heavy and wont move second on the chance u get attacked they will hit ur floors meaning 1 wall from ur loot other than that naise
Thanks for the input, its been doing well so far with out going anywhere near over weight. The floor is protected because the walker platform cant be shot through.
@@spazknot8959 thanks for the replay ya figured it out and it solves that problom ill consider it for futrue desiens i like to place my goodies on the second floor and make seprete rooms since in my they use the flooring next balag will be better thanks to this
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Man having all the loot room in 1 spot gives me ptsd due to rust but that wall stacking method is like 20 / 10 ! GG looking forward more vid !
100% agree, personally I have always believed its best to leave your bank in the lobby and transfer things well in the bubble but this would still work well as a middle point between gathering and putting stuff in the bank.
The first good video i found about the changes in Season 2 (namely Balang, Silur, Stonebuildings). I follow you on RUclips and would be happy if you make more great videos like this!
Thanks a ton and I have quite a few videos planned for the near future!
@@spazknot8959 Thats Good news!
Amazing 10/10!
This is a META changing video.
Balang is really useful, me and a friend play on our own, and it is one of our most useful walkers.
Agreed! I'm really glad they added it to the game.
Awesome vid man
Thanks for the support!
Nice content man. Been playing for a while and found some useful tips. I have a silur walker i was wonder when will you be adding a silur walker base build design for solos and small groups
Thanks!! I have thought about doing a similar build for a silur but with the 250 tile pack it leaves a ton of room for individual customisation based on use and player preference but the building techniques in this video can be applied to a silur base!
NGL, I'm a solo player, and I don't think double walling is my thing for a few reasons.
1. Takes longer to pack and unpack, so if you get caught on short notice, the walker is already gone.
2. If a tribe is willing to use hellfire arrows on a solo Balang base, it probably means they have hellfire to spare, and your base is gone anyways.
Just my observations, still a good tutorial.
Gerade deswegen würde ich aber trotzdem Doppelwandig Arbeiten um Angreifer es so schwer wie möglich machen. Wen jemand Höllenfeuer hat und du hast nur eine Wand dann ist der drinnen. Wen du aber Wabenarti baust braucht er pro Wand mindestens 1 Pfeil für sagen wir 1000 Holz. Hat sich für ihn wirklich gelohnt. Nicht.
awesome base build video, silur next please with windmill space :D
Thanks! I do plan to make a silur video soon :D
What do you do when you need to start using the other crafting machines that can't fit?
How did you place your tile over the walker packer
I believe I placed an unsnapped roof tile over it after it was in place. It may help to angle the roof up one click as long as there's no big holes you should be safe.
How did you create the materiallist at 2:55 ?
That list was made on Lastoasiscrafter . com, its one of a few useful websites I cover in the Web Links section of my New/Returning player guide video. There may be some other useful info in that video worth checking out!
@@spazknot8959 Ok, nice. Thank you! 👍
Good video, thanks. The sad thing is though that this is pretty much the only good design you can do with a Balang due to the low 70 piece limit and it feels really cramped. I've messed around with other designs and you can forego the 2nd airlock door for a 2x1 on the second level, but thats about the only change you can make really and still keep the protection of double walls. I feel like for mobile base design to be an interesting thing they need to up the limit to something more like 90 so we can vary the designs at least a little bit.
Thanks for the comment and i 100% agree! 70 is far too low and even the silur with a 250 pack count is too small for the platform! I would love to see some adjustments to pack count and honestly triangle building pieces would add a lot to the building system.
@@spazknot8959 How necessary is the double ceiling in practice? Are there many walkers around that are tall enough to fire Hellfire bolts down at the roof of your Balang base, or can they lob them ontop? Edit: Definitely agree with all you said - triangle pieces would be great.
@@tonyl4890 In all honesty it depends on the location you place your base but 99% of the bases I've encountered you can either build up beside them or use a schmett or a number of other bigger ships to get a view on the roof or more commonly I would find myself dropping a firefly or ballista spider on the roof even in bases with only one layer all the way around. this allows you to drop a exo suit into the base to destroy any large boxes. There's a lot of way to raid a base and if the raiders notice any easier way in they will likely take it.
20/10 video
Thanks!
I’m on Xbox and I’m trying to find the stone buildings and I have no idea where to find them in the construction tab and I spent all my frags can someone explain where it’s at
To unlock stone you have to unlock Sandbag base(3 frags) -> Base maintenance chest (5 frags) -> Stone base (10 frags). I believe you also have to be above level 10 or so.
What happens if you have more parts than the maximum pack count? The pack count that is shown x/74 does the 74 also include boxes etc.? Or does it only stand for the tiles?
It only stand for the tiles.
After I added the maint chest and placed the Base walker packer beside it, I cant get the roof tile on over it? Is that due to my not placing the walker packer in the correct spot or have I missed something else?
You have to try and place the walker packer in the center of the tile, you could also try unsnapping the roof tile before you place it because this will lift the tile up a bit giving you more room.
So Im thinking about making 2x1 second floor with double (or tripple) walls and use only 1 wall for the first floor. This way, I can put the valuable stuff in the second floor and dont have to care so much about the rest. The second floor will only be accessible through its own door.
Question: Is it possible, that the second floor and the chests in it fall down and get destroyed when part of the first floor is destroyed?
Question 2: Should I double-stack the bottom of the floor as well?
It all really just depends what you are looking for out of your base. Answer 1: The second level wont drop unless they destroyed all the lower walls connected to it but that's going to be a lot harder than simply busting through the second layer. Answer 2: If you plan to double stack the walls you will only need one layer for the floor (level one counts as the first layer and the floor will count as layer 2) But if you plan to triple stack the walls you will need at least 2 layers on the floor to keep the 3 wall minimum to break in. Hope that wasn't too confusing!
Can you do a Mid-High end Solo Balang Clay Base video? with furnaces?
Is there a reason you are looking to build it on a Balang instead of a Silur? (just curious due to pack count restrictions)
I would just recommend you to put a walker packer with a spider + 3 windmills or an soil escavator with 5k torque + 3k water.
How are you going to pack that 90 placeables base into a Balang with only 70 spots?
The pack limit only counts towards the building blocks (walls/doors/roofs that kind of stuff). Each item you place in your base adds to the total pack count increasing the time to pack and unpack but it doesnt count towards the limit. So this base will be 70 building tiles and have 20 items placed inside of it.
@@spazknot8959 i was getting the to many walls msg with this build i had to remove the double roof for it to actually pack...love the build tho man.
I have a problem with getting inside, if I dont have the floor in front of the airlock :D I use hook, but I always get on the top of the airlock, isntead of inside :D any tips?
If you have nothing to stand on and hold space bar well trying to get into a door it will usually make you climb on the roof. Grapple placement is important when trying to get in an open door and if possible its best to use the grapple and directional keys to move your character into the open door instead of space bar. Alternatively you can place a floor tile in front of the door to make it easy to get up!
@@spazknot8959 thanks for the answer. I guess it was bug, because now (after wipe) its working properly again. :D
@@Lordofyourfate no worries! Glad its working again :)
Will this base still be able to pack up a dhingy weight wise?
Yes, With a recent hotfix they can now hold 3680 instead of 2880 and this will help a lot with packing a dinghy or smaller.
@@spazknot8959 i mean withbthe build you made here, is it enough weightbleft for the dhingy
@@spazknot8959
Do you have any idea why when i try to double layer the roof building parts, i can not move mine the small ticks that you have, when i roll my scroll it moves them 45 degrees at a time so im not able to do the layering because its always too much tilting
@@Sjokoen You can change the way that it cycles using the G key!
Do the small wings make it slower?
When testing the small wings did seem a bit slower, they arent super clear on how wing power actually effects the walkers.
After more testing I've found that the only thing wing power affects is torque generation
Do you use a walker climber on this base? If so how would you place it
Normally i dont use them because it can be used to combat lock the base and that prevents building/refilling water but if you wanted to you could open the outside door and place one that way
@@spazknot8959 ok thanks.
This pack count is so confusing. When packing it says 72 at the moment but it’s a lot of boxes and junk. Is there a way to know how many left ?
The only easy way to get a total count is to subtract how many items you have (including maintenance chest) from your over all pack count. The limit is only in regards to building tiles.
@@spazknot8959 ok so. Not sure why I wasn’t willing to just count my shit. It can’t be a lot. Lol
Out of curiousity but which walker do you use inside the walker packer? spider or dingy?
Personally I try to only use the packer for when I'm near the base to keep the weight down but I tend to use the spider in there more often than a dinghy. If I'm going to travel I set the base up near the edge and pack my walker there for the jump.
Nice and helpful video, though what I actually wanted to know (how to replace walls built once - I built my building without a window and now want to place a window in it) wasn't mentioned. Maybe someone can help me out? Cheers
Are you planning on putting a window to your main base or in an extra room? The reason I ask is because you can shoot through windows so careful where you place them. As far as deleting and replacing tiles as long as the structure has foundation support from another area you can delete the tile. Ill try and give you a good example. If you place a foundation on the ground and then snap a wall to it then you delete the foundation the wall will break. If you place two foundations and put two walls (one on each, side by side) you can delete one of the foundations with out worry because the other is providing the structure with foundation support. Sorry if that's more confusing than helpful!
Can rupus shoot trough windows?
When are you going to check out season 3? Will you at all?
Ive actually been on here and there for season 3 but as a PC player some of the changes/glitches have made it hard to get back into. That said I do have a few videos related to season 3 on the way!
@@spazknot8959 sweet can't wait to see some stuff. I like your content👍🏼
If I remove the wall you angle to stack the chests will it remove the chest? I'd like to stack chests but it annoys me how it looks with the current workaround. Great video btw subbed!
Unfortunately if you delete the top wall it will remove the support for the chest and destroy it
I cant seem to toggle snapping. R doesn't work?
When you go to place a building tile down it should show the a menu that will list the toggle snapping feature, it should be lit up if the piece can be unsnapped. If you skip to 3:20 you can see the toggle snapping feature. If the key is different for you it should show on that menu.
I honestly like the Balang and the concept of the Silur, but i think its kinda.... a cheap way to add a challenge to it by making the Silur using only torque to move and cant pack them up into a Panda walker, which can hold even a damn titan with a base packed into said titan ya know? it dont make sense. Thank you for the video! its really well done!
haha yeah that doesnt make much sense does it! Thanks I appreciate the compliment :D
Is it a fact you can't pack it as I thought the only walker no packable was the panda for obvious reasons but yea that is a shame for the Silur and makes camp moving still frustrating.
@@pandemoniumgaming6344 i can say for sure that the balang, silur, panda and proxy walk cant be packed in a panda
@@spazknot8959 That's good to know I thought it would be good to transport bases but I guess not :D
Why would I want a balang over s normal base? Because pretty much any other walker can pack a base in it. And they can have defense to protect them.
The Balang and Silur walkers are the only walkers that can pack stone and stone is superior to all other packable base materials as it can only be broken into by hellfire and hull breaker which is much more expensive and hard to make. They also cant crack your balang or silur open with fire arrows and force deploy your base. There is almost no advantage to a standard base anymore other than the ability to pack in a non foundation walker and the ability to pack high count bases. Iron wood bases are the only wood base that is solid status but its extremely expensive for any reasonable size base. Additionally there is no extra defenses for a wood base over a stone base because all deployable items like rupu slingers can be placed on either material. If anything wood bases are far less defended as any zero to hero can farm some fire arrows with ease.
@@spazknot8959 thank you very much for explaining that. That does make a lot of sense then. :3
I dont do pvp much myself so I usually run a dinghy that can pack what I need. I'll start running the balang as well. Or do you think I could run a solo balang?
@@torrieitazura4343 No worries thats what im here for! You can totally run a balang by yourself just keep the base as small as possible to keep the unpack time down. When you are unpacking people can get inside a base so you have to be cautious about that but your base is totally safe when packing it up. I use a balang with a 1x2 base on it to farm and try to keep it as empty as possible for mobility.
@@spazknot8959 thank you, I will do that tomorrow on my next gameplay.
Song min 3.40 ?
I think they buffed the weight with the recent hotfix to 3600ish
Your right they buffed the weight to 3680! Thanks for the comment I confirmed it now ill add that to the description :)
@@spazknot8959 is it still a 70 tile limit?
90 tiles? But you can only fit 70...
That only refers to the building tiles (walls, floor, roof, door, ect) everything else you put in it like stations and such add to the total count so it takes longer to pack and unpack but they do not stop it from packing. So this base may have 70 building tiles but it has an addition 20 objects in it. Hope that made sense!
@@spazknot8959 Ah that's fair. Shame the game doesn't distinguish them like that.
This aged well
I agree lol
Canadians heh jk - tree
Oh f**k yeah :P
PLEASE SILUR BUILD!!!!!!
Thanks for the suggestion! I do plan to make a silur video very soon :D
@@spazknot8959 would be awesome. Just looking for different ways to build good bases and take that as a building block to make my own. Granted. I am experimenting. But would still love to see other ideas/builds
Very naise guide Very bad deisgn firstly with loot inside this is going to be insaly heavy and wont move second on the chance u get attacked they will hit ur floors meaning 1 wall from ur loot
other than that naise
Thanks for the input, its been doing well so far with out going anywhere near over weight. The floor is protected because the walker platform cant be shot through.
@@spazknot8959 thanks for the replay ya figured it out and it solves that problom ill consider it for futrue desiens i like to place my goodies on the second floor and make seprete rooms since in my they use the flooring next balag will be better thanks to this