***** I don't think the gracies fighting gokor will be anything spectacular. Im sure you know that the gracies have already fought guys like ken shamrock, sakuraba, and the rest of the japanese shoot wrestlers back in the 1990s so Im not sure how gokor is anything special. Biased huh? You don't say
***** Again, the burden of proof is on you. I dont think you know what the burden of proof fallacy means. Gokor himself was the one who claimed that they were ducking him without having any other existing documented proofs supporting his claims. Neither the gracies nor gokor have any proof of their conflict interests since everything was done behind doors and the lack of any form of media coverage. So according to you, you'll accept his claims as true just because you're a fan of him over the gracies. That's called selection bias. *As to the early UFC, there were other fighters they didnt want competing besides Gokor.* Proof please. I find this claim hard to believe when they invited ken shamrock and other athletes of each style. UFC fighters were selected based upon availability and invitation sent by Art Davie. *What would constitute "proof" for you?* Don't pretend that you don't know what proof is. You're being insincere and intellectually dishonest
@@graciederangementsyndrome3669are you retarded? Gokor is better than all those guys combined he even trained most of them especially Sakuraba so imagine what he could do to the Gracies after Sakuraba humiliated so many of them. Gokor also turned the shamrocks into human origami there’s footage of him annihilating them in grappling yet it took Royce so much effort to barely win. You clearly know nothing about fighting, dork
@@graciederangementsyndrome3669buddy come to hayastan mma academy anytime in north Hollywood and talk to Gokor I’m sure he will be happy to clarify any questions you have after he tears your leg off and beats you with it. Clown
@@Shhhhh444Gracie refused to fight Gokor. Plus we know the Gracie’s were in charge of and rigged the original UFC to give Royce the easiest path to victory. Gracie used his gi to choke Shamrock while denying him the ability to wear wrestling shoes. Later in UFC 3 Gracie pulled Leopoldo by the ponytail. Royce later pretended to want a match with Mike Tyson while Tyson was in prison 🙄 Then when they lost in Pride the Gracie’s lied and said that Royler’s loss wasn’t a loss because it didn’t match up to the “Gracie’s rules” 🙄 Royce couldn’t even submit “pro wrestler” Takada. Gracie got choked unconscious by Yoshida and tried to lie about it The Gracie’s are great fighters and deserve respect for founding the UFC and for teaching BJJ, but they’re whining cry babies and tried to fraud everyone into buying into Gracie jujitsu only.
Your an idiot and you don't know shit so shut your dumb crumb hole. I've trained and grappled with them both and Gokor is 10x better than Oleg who trains in Gokor's studio in Hollywood. Aren't assumptions a bitch when you look like a jackass when the smoke clears? Dumb ass👍
Gokor is truly a great fighter. I trained with him years ago and one time i grappled with him on the floor when he had me in guard position and i dug my elbows into his inner thighs to let them off me with all my strength and it didn't even make a difference. This man is seriously made out of rocks
He did break his arm. And deservedly so. 1996 gokor applied the camel clutch crippling a student to prove a point to the class never trust anyone. He raised that crippled boy as his own in a cellar I’m sure to this day. The kid was a railroad bum. Now living the life of luxury in a large bird cage in one of gokors cellars that doubles as a garbage dump and sewage drainage pit
Pound for Pound ! not the biggest not the fastest but the baddest !! still to this day !!Gokor is a MMA mentle and physical chess player he waits... for his prey to make a mistake wraps around the arm or leg like a Boa Constictor Snake and trap ,wrap ,snap , choke , its over !!! the best tech fighter alive ! and instuctor as well a living legend !
I've taken classes at his studio with my father years ago. Gokor is literally made of rock, not mentioning that he moves like liquid lightning. Him just demonstrating a move is like standing in front of a boulder rolling down a mountain.
Considering Rickson challenged Gokor then backed out of his own challenge when he saw him fight and then tried to challenge 60 year old Gene Lebell, I am pretty sure Gokor would of smashed him.
Much respect to Gokor, but this is a classic case of exaggeration for Bill "not Akira" Maeda. 200+ wins and the top muay thai and judo competitor in Japan? Come on. The entire WFF tournament was basically putting LeBell's fighters against others. If you look up the other fights and listen to the commentary, it's basically them heaping praises on his fighters and then making excuses if they lose. Not the finest hour for MMA back in its infancy.
woops my fault man i forgot this fight was in 1997. he came out of retirement for this fight but then went back into retirement afterwards. Stillt hough he was pretty much done fighitng by 1997 he was already pretty old. I would have loved to see him grapple the gracies. i think he would have won.
@BroomeBlocker3 what are you talking about, rorion faced benny and choked him out, benny even had his face blacked out of the fight which is on the gracies in action
@130kali what are you talking bout I'm defending the Gracies you got your people mixed up. the Gracie's actually did invite Gokor and he declined, reffed extreme fighting instead, benny got choked out by rorion on the gracie in action vhs
@130kali Probably because the Gracies overhype every fight, everyone has a huge weight advantage even when you can clearly see the Gracie fighter is bigger than he is, just look at the fight with Helio/Kimura. The Gracies made up a rumor that Helio said if it went past the 3rd minute he would consider it a win for them, Helio brought a coffin to the mat for Kimura even though he says he didn't expect to win, he was unconscious at the 3 minute mark, he admitted this after Kimura's death...
The Gracies are always competing in grappling tournaments and mix martial arts events. They take fighters from scratch and create champions. No one is dodging Gokor. Has Gokor ever fought Sakuraba, Ken Shamrock, or Tank? Has he or his students made it to Abu Dhabi? My point is that Gokor and the Gracies are legends, so please quit with the gossip and lets just be men and enjoy this beautiful art? Much respect for both stop hating.
@BroomeBlocker3 heck yeah gokor was the shit. he trained my sensei. my sensei used to be in his classes. i havent gotten to meet gokor yet but he is having a seminar soon i think. i might go idk i need to join the academy again.
@MMALibrary Dude I'm not dissing you. I'm just affirming what you're saying. Next time I will make things much clearer. You and I both know that the Gracies may not be undefeated, but they're not any punks either. Much respect to everyone.
Trained with Gokor at his studio in Hollywood. Put me in several ankle locks faster than I could blink. He's beaten the best from Gracie's to world champion's. He took this fight with Mr.Maeda with 2 weeks notice and didn't train for it once. Nobody can beat this guy on the ground not even today. Gene Lebelle challenged Rickson Gracie to fight Gokor in a fight but turned it down saying "He doesn't fight the way we do". Well Gokor knows a lot more that's whe he turned the fight down.
@ratqueef What is everybody talking about? How do they know that the Gracies wouldn't invite Gokor to UFC. I'm confused because the Gracies challenge everyone. They may not always win, but they seem to always put together great fights like Shamrock, Tank, Sakuraba, Bravo etc. I don't know why everyone keep hating on the Gracies. Why spread false rumors? If I'm wrong please correct me because as of right now I like the Gracies because they made UFC what it is today.
Gokor was never offered to fight in the UFC. That's because Dana knew he could make a lot of money off Brazil by having a Brazilian super star in the sport. But if Gokor participated, there would be none. He'd submit both Royce and Renzo in a minute at the most. They'd look terrible and exposed. Brazilians don't want to pay to see their best fighters exposed and beaten. That's why Gokor was never invited. You sound like a UFC, blaming Gokor for never fighting people that ducked him.
Gokors best student was karo parisyan who was pretty good for a while but of course he never fought those guys. he retired in 1991. 2 years before the very first ufc tournament and before king of pancrase began as well.
@BroomeBlocker3 actually Rorian beat Benny and then Benny wanted to fight again under his rules, so Benny got tapped by the Gracies already, Gokor had the UFC and Extreme Fighting to do if he wanted, instead he chose to ref Extreme Fighting and how many of his students do shit compared to the Gracies?>>>
I've been to two of gokor's seminars and 3 of us went against him and we could not submit him. That boy is tough.
He’s built like a rock.
I feel proud of having Gokor as my sensei. I can't wait to get back on the mat tonight!
Is he still in that place off Western?
Gokor Chivichyan is the best of the best no wonder the Gracies didn't want to challenge him!
***** I don't think the gracies fighting gokor will be anything spectacular. Im sure you know that the gracies have already fought guys like ken shamrock, sakuraba, and the rest of the japanese shoot wrestlers back in the 1990s so Im not sure how gokor is anything special. Biased huh? You don't say
***** The burden of proof is on you. Your claim is no more than a rumor coming from gokor's side at best.
***** Again, the burden of proof is on you. I dont think you know what the burden of proof fallacy means. Gokor himself was the one who claimed that they were ducking him without having any other existing documented proofs supporting his claims. Neither the gracies nor gokor have any proof of their conflict interests since everything was done behind doors and the lack of any form of media coverage. So according to you, you'll accept his claims as true just because you're a fan of him over the gracies. That's called selection bias.
*As to the early UFC, there were other fighters they didnt want competing besides Gokor.*
Proof please. I find this claim hard to believe when they invited ken shamrock and other athletes of each style. UFC fighters were selected based upon availability and invitation sent by Art Davie.
*What would constitute "proof" for you?*
Don't pretend that you don't know what proof is. You're being insincere and intellectually dishonest
@@graciederangementsyndrome3669are you retarded? Gokor is better than all those guys combined he even trained most of them especially Sakuraba so imagine what he could do to the Gracies after Sakuraba humiliated so many of them. Gokor also turned the shamrocks into human origami there’s footage of him annihilating them in grappling yet it took Royce so much effort to barely win. You clearly know nothing about fighting, dork
@@graciederangementsyndrome3669buddy come to hayastan mma academy anytime in north Hollywood and talk to Gokor I’m sure he will be happy to clarify any questions you have after he tears your leg off and beats you with it. Clown
The GRACIES FEAR THIS MAN!
jospa1251 lmao in no way is this bullshit brother
@@Shhhhh444Gracie refused to fight Gokor. Plus we know the Gracie’s were in charge of and rigged the original UFC to give Royce the easiest path to victory.
Gracie used his gi to choke Shamrock while denying him the ability to wear wrestling shoes. Later in UFC 3 Gracie pulled Leopoldo by the ponytail.
Royce later pretended to want a match with Mike Tyson while Tyson was in prison 🙄
Then when they lost in Pride the Gracie’s lied and said that Royler’s loss wasn’t a loss because it didn’t match up to the “Gracie’s rules” 🙄
Royce couldn’t even submit “pro wrestler” Takada.
Gracie got choked unconscious by Yoshida and tried to lie about it
The Gracie’s are great fighters and deserve respect for founding the UFC and for teaching BJJ, but they’re whining cry babies and tried to fraud everyone into buying into Gracie jujitsu only.
This was a Stage Fight.
Such a total badass. Always admired Gokor. Knew they were friends, but didn't know Gokor studied under Gene. How cool is that?
Sensei gene died yesterday RIP
I used this for research Thank You for the upload
That’s a young Karo in the corner
Aloha mr Fitman 💪
gokor is a genious, true artist!
gokor is the real deal ... the gracies respect him to the fullest ...
Gokor
One of the best EVER
UFC would have been a warm up for him
+Vano Sasuntsi ur a funny troll!!!
ROBBY KID
If you had half ounce of grey matter, you would understand...
Your an idiot and you don't know shit so shut your dumb crumb hole. I've trained and grappled with them both and Gokor is 10x better than Oleg who trains in Gokor's studio in Hollywood. Aren't assumptions a bitch when you look like a jackass when the smoke clears? Dumb ass👍
The commentator yelled, "Break that strong arm!" 🤣
good effort Bill!!
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This guy is now a tik tok star Mr Maeda
So this is the guy that trains Ronda Rousy. He taught her well. Check out the arm lock at around 5:30. Rousy's signature move.
Gokor is truly a great fighter. I trained with him years ago and one time i grappled with him on the floor when he had me in guard position and i dug my elbows into his inner thighs to let them off me with all my strength and it didn't even make a difference. This man is seriously made out of rocks
Look at how gentle he is with Maeda's arm. He could have snapped it off if he wanted to.
He did break his arm. And deservedly so.
1996 gokor applied the camel clutch crippling a student to prove a point to the class never trust anyone.
He raised that crippled boy as his own in a cellar I’m sure to this day. The kid was a railroad bum. Now living the life of luxury in a large bird cage in one of gokors cellars that doubles as a garbage dump and sewage drainage pit
What's Gokor 6 times world champion in?
Pound for Pound ! not the biggest not the fastest but the baddest !! still to this day !!Gokor is a MMA mentle and physical chess player he waits... for his prey to make a mistake wraps around the arm or leg like a Boa Constictor Snake and trap ,wrap ,snap , choke , its over !!! the best tech fighter alive ! and instuctor as well a living legend !
I've taken classes at his studio with my father years ago. Gokor is literally made of rock, not mentioning that he moves like liquid lightning. Him just demonstrating a move is like standing in front of a boulder rolling down a mountain.
Why didn´t fight Gokor in the UFC?
@DoAction "BREAK IT! BREAK THAT GOSH-DARN ARM!" It was most definitely Gene Lebell.
Considering Rickson challenged Gokor then backed out of his own challenge when he saw him fight and then tried to challenge 60 year old Gene Lebell, I am pretty sure Gokor would of smashed him.
i think this is where rousey got her moves,wow
Much respect to Gokor, but this is a classic case of exaggeration for Bill "not Akira" Maeda. 200+ wins and the top muay thai and judo competitor in Japan? Come on. The entire WFF tournament was basically putting LeBell's fighters against others. If you look up the other fights and listen to the commentary, it's basically them heaping praises on his fighters and then making excuses if they lose. Not the finest hour for MMA back in its infancy.
Announcer got a little hyped.
“He’ll break it. He’s gonna break it. BREAK THAT GOSH DARN ARM!!!”
I loved it. He knew just how bad of a dude he was. Other announcer was talking like maena was doing something
why are soviet grapplers always the scariest
Gokor comes from Amenia and not from Russia.
Bill is a nice man he is good!!
That was Lebell commentating was it not?
Gokor you're best you're legend!!!!
@SoulPenalty - Ask sakuraba about challenging the all time greats. ;)
Im a member of team hayastan!:)
I call bullshit on the supposed fight record of the Japanese guy. There is absolutely no World Judo Champion with 200 bare knuckle fights,
@kalumbahing Yeah, they forget to invite a TON of fighters that knew what they were doing.
Rofl, Maeda at the time had 200+ wins and no defeats.
i train with gokor
This is one of Ronda Rousey's trainers. Makes sense.
im a hayastan team member!:)
Super
@BroomeBlocker3 actually they back out because benny wanted rules, that have helped him,and worked against the grappling.
woops my fault man i forgot this fight was in 1997. he came out of retirement for this fight but then went back into retirement afterwards. Stillt hough he was pretty much done fighitng by 1997 he was already pretty old. I would have loved to see him grapple the gracies. i think he would have won.
@5:31 Gokor knew he had it. He was just about ready to let go before the tap, but was able to hold on enough just in case.
Yes he is gentle; however If you look carefully, you'll see Gokor breaking Maeda's arm at the end.
@BroomeBlocker3 what are you talking about, rorion faced benny and choked him out, benny even had his face blacked out of the fight which is on the gracies in action
@130kali what are you talking bout I'm defending the Gracies you got your people mixed up. the Gracie's actually did invite Gokor and he declined, reffed extreme fighting instead, benny got choked out by rorion on the gracie in action vhs
No idea Bill Maeda used to fight
@130kali Probably because the Gracies overhype every fight, everyone has a huge weight advantage even when you can clearly see the Gracie fighter is bigger than he is, just look at the fight with Helio/Kimura. The Gracies made up a rumor that Helio said if it went past the 3rd minute he would consider it a win for them, Helio brought a coffin to the mat for Kimura even though he says he didn't expect to win, he was unconscious at the 3 minute mark, he admitted this after Kimura's death...
What is Goker's origin ?
Armenia
Who the hell is this Maeda? I thought he would be Akira Maeda, but he isn't him.
a little boy made a wish.. that his "street fighters" game would come to life
The Gracies are always competing in grappling tournaments and mix martial arts events. They take fighters from scratch and create champions. No one is dodging Gokor. Has Gokor ever fought Sakuraba, Ken Shamrock, or Tank? Has he or his students made it to Abu Dhabi? My point is that Gokor and the Gracies are legends, so please quit with the gossip and lets just be men and enjoy this beautiful art?
Much respect for both stop hating.
This nigga bill has been huge forever
Definitely abuses steroids
@@StillaRUclipsGuy i follow him on Instagram his physique looks very natural even in his 50’s, nothing about him look like roids
@@LeMeilleurr lol believe what you want my dude
Gokor the best !
This is incredible!
cause they did not invite gokor in ufc 1. coz they dont want to loose royce gracie.
"BREAK THAT GUY'S STRONG ARM!"
@BroomeBlocker3 heck yeah gokor was the shit. he trained my sensei. my sensei used to be in his classes. i havent gotten to meet gokor yet but he is having a seminar soon i think. i might go idk i need to join the academy again.
awww look at the little Bruce Buffer
gokor. number 1 fighter
@MMALibrary
Dude I'm not dissing you. I'm just affirming what you're saying. Next time I will make things much clearer. You and I both know that the Gracies may not be undefeated, but they're not any punks either. Much respect to everyone.
@PeLudO17 that's why Rickson ran away from Gokor
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apparently neither is maeda.......
Trained with Gokor at his studio in Hollywood. Put me in several ankle locks faster than I could blink. He's beaten the best from Gracie's to world champion's. He took this fight with Mr.Maeda with 2 weeks notice and didn't train for it once.
Nobody can beat this guy on the ground not even today.
Gene Lebelle challenged Rickson Gracie to fight Gokor in a fight but turned it down saying "He doesn't fight the way we do".
Well Gokor knows a lot more that's whe he turned the fight down.
Never happened.
@@jorndoff2002 wrong
ARMENIAN POWER
the asian dude looks like a cartoon character
Bruce buffer looking young here
Wow! This was going on at the same time as UFC1? These are some really serious fighters. It makes the early UFc's look like jokes.
Gokor did not waste any time!!!
@ratqueef
What is everybody talking about? How do they know that the Gracies wouldn't invite Gokor to UFC. I'm confused because the Gracies challenge everyone. They may not always win, but they seem to always put together great fights like Shamrock, Tank, Sakuraba, Bravo etc. I don't know why everyone keep hating on the Gracies. Why spread false rumors?
If I'm wrong please correct me because as of right now I like the Gracies because they made UFC what it is today.
Thats a young Bruce Buffer :)
If u dont know what N.H.B. is or means then u are a casual
Gokar could take out Iraq with his left arm. And Russia with his right...
YUP, NO DOUBT.
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That's right!
Gokor was never offered to fight in the UFC. That's because Dana knew he could make a lot of money off Brazil by having a Brazilian super star in the sport. But if Gokor participated, there would be none. He'd submit both Royce and Renzo in a minute at the most. They'd look terrible and exposed. Brazilians don't want to pay to see their best fighters exposed and beaten. That's why Gokor was never invited. You sound like a UFC, blaming Gokor for never fighting people that ducked him.
Rickson would have beaten Gokor easily because at grappling Rickson was on a different level.
holy shit.. Bruce Buffer!!!
Of course he would have beaten Royce, but would he have beaten Rickson? That would have been a fight to watch!
Or Carlson
Rorion Gracie never fought Benny the Jet.
Gokor is like an octopus - look at the face of the japanese fighter:))))
Jannn. Em. Axper
hakuji.....
Gokors best student was karo parisyan who was pretty good for a while but of course he never fought those guys. he retired in 1991. 2 years before the very first ufc tournament and before king of pancrase began as well.
Wrong.
@@DickTrickle1 bro STFU. This comment is 10 years old lol.
Wow!
Paretti says this was a work
Bill Maeda was not a champion in martial arts at the time. He wasn't from Japan. Nothing about this seems legit.
200 bare knuckle fights lol
Well when you're trying to create a franchise you don't want to challenge people that you know will beat you.
OMG... He has a horrible ground game (Gokor)... Look the hip movement... Against Royce, he no have a chance...
I. Go to. Gokors. Judo. And. Now. I’m a. Purple. Belt
@vespaman101 dude you know that's bullshit no one has 400 no holds barred fights
hes armanian but then moves to LA
Rumor has it that this fight was actually staged.😎
halala..... park hayerin
@BroomeBlocker3 actually Rorian beat Benny and then Benny wanted to fight again under his rules, so Benny got tapped by the Gracies already, Gokor had the UFC and Extreme Fighting to do if he wanted, instead he chose to ref Extreme Fighting and how many of his students do shit compared to the Gracies?>>>
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than u weak up
Silva would have tapped out to the flying leg scissors heel hook, again!
Viva Chonan!
not really i'm just saying he's not that impresive