Just listened to Chapter 11 after listening to this clip. Makes me think imagine if an ant could suddenly perceive the perceptual world of a human. Or, as a human, you could go down into the preceptual world of an ant and teach them about the perceptual world of humans. The ants would be off creating organised religions , constructing idols, and have sessional holidays to worship their newfound gods 😁
Bernardo is correct, as the ego recognizes the light of awareness (aka, true absolute reality) it melts, leaving Self alone. This is Self-realization. 🙏
TLDR: Our perception of the world is a coded representation on our internal dashboard, which is limited by our cognitive abilities and prioritizes survival over truth. 1. 00:00 🧠 Our perception of the world is limited by our cognitive abilities. 1.1 Our perception of the world as it is in itself is not accurate, as our internal cognitive states cannot mirror the complexity and variety of states of the world out there. 2. 01:13 🧠 Perception is not a mirror of the world, but an encoded representation that helps us maintain structural and dynamical integrity. 2.1 Perception is not a mirror of the world, but an encoded representation, as mirroring the world in our internal cognitive states would result in an infinite complexity and variety of inner states, leading to an inability to maintain structural and dynamical integrity. 3. 02:33 ✈ Pilots rely on instrument readings to navigate through the air. 3.1 Airplane pilots fly by instruments connected to sensors that measure parameters of the world up and present the results on the dashboard. 4. 03:16 🧠 Our perception is a dashboard that encodes accurate information about the world, but it is not the world itself. 4.1 Our perception is like a dashboard, providing encoded but accurate information about the world, but it is not the world itself. 5. 04:43 🤔 Perception ≠ Reality: Evolution prioritizes survival over truth. 5.1 Perception is not an accurate representation of the world as it is due to the fact that evolution favors survival over truth. 6. 05:57 💾 A computer file is a collection of microscopic electronic switches in flash memory. 6.1 A computer file is not actually a white rectangle, but rather a collection of millions of microscopic electronic switches open or closed in the flash memory. 7. 06:50 🧠 Evolution gave us a dashboard to see the world as encoded representations. 7.1 Evolution equipped us with a dashboard metaphor to see the world as encoded representations instead of overwhelming us with information. 8. 08:02 🧠 The world we perceive is a coded representation on our internal dashboard. 8.1 The world we experience is not the physical reality, but rather an encoded representation on our internal dashboard.
“If it is not physical, not material, then what is it” - even children understand it. The answer is visual, the world is visual. That means reality is dreamscapes (being) that must form a continuum comprised of related finite particles of dark and light relativity. Life is only a dream. So the question is not so much ‘what is it’ or ‘why is it’ but what does it equip us to do. We are able to understand things.
I find this new series of videos very clear and interesting. Have you published a study which makes use of game theory? Or could you point me to some articles? Thank you.
It's also important to mention that most other cultures do not percieve the world as just phisical. Percieveing the wolrd as just phisical is culturally imposed learned behavior. "Mind and Spirit" project led by T. M. Luhrnmann shows that in some other cultures, people view certain phenomenon that we think as "just in our head" as outside events whitch opens them up for experiences that are quite rare in the modern west. This is because they don't have this false dichotomy that devides "our mind" from the world "outside".
Whether the world "as it actually is" can or cannot be apprehended by humans at all is an open question. I believe it can be, but only directly, "without thought coverings", in other words non-conceptually. Words and numbers cannot produce a fine enough net in which to capture it.
Hello Dr. Kastrup. My question is as follows: If the world is not our representation or as it is shown to us, what would be the problem if it still works?
Would our perception of the outside world have to depend on our previous interpretation of it ? In a previous mental construct ? And would it be plausible to deduce that we are the producers of that perceived biological outcome ? How could it be another way ?
Percepção é uma representação codificada do mundo, não uma janela transparente para o mundo em si. Estamos "voando por instrumentos", mas o painel de instrumentos não é o mundo em si, apenas representações codificadas sobre o que é relevante a respeito do mundo. Nossa percepção é um painel de controle desenhado pela evolução. Isso não quer dizer que devamos ignorar o painel de controle. A evolução não se preocupa com o mundo como ele é, com sua infinidade de informação nem sempre relevante a seus "propósitos". Ela se preocupa com a melhor adaptabilidade, sobrevivência e reprodução. O "físico" ou "material" é o nome que damos ao que está no painel de controle.
You are right about the percetion in my idea. But to claim that evolution let us to filter and manage sensory data is conratdicting with the fundamental assumption of the systems are progressing from simple to complex nature. In order to realize and manage these information you need to have more complex system in my idea.
I know what you're saying about consciousness. So we're looking at a dashboard. We're creating it up in in our mind. But what if I take a photgraphe and it looks perfect. Did the camera make the image up in it's own mind?
If you run a program that makes a screenshot of a dashboard (or its part) the result will look like the dashboard. The program doesn't have its own mind.
The free course would be much more absorbed if it's accompanied by visuals, granted that The Universe is best explained by geometry for it is impartial, concise, and intuitive.
I've always found this "hot soup" argument somewhat weak. It's a straw man argument - no one could reasonably claim that we perceive all of the information defining the state of the universe. But it could still be possible for our perception to be a "literal image" of the world as it really is, just "low-pass filtered." A fuzzy image, if you will. Filtered however much is made necessary by our limitations. The claim of analytic idealism is that the "translation" between reality and perception is much more extensive. By the way, I buy into your program - I'm not arguing against you here.
BK is exceptionally intelligent. What he is saying, from his scientific and philosophic background, is what the Bhagavad Gita narrates in Chapter 11.
Just listened to Chapter 11 after listening to this clip. Makes me think imagine if an ant could suddenly perceive the perceptual world of a human. Or, as a human, you could go down into the preceptual world of an ant and teach them about the perceptual world of humans. The ants would be off creating organised religions , constructing idols, and have sessional holidays to worship their newfound gods 😁
Bernardo is correct, as the ego recognizes the light of awareness (aka, true absolute reality) it melts, leaving Self alone. This is Self-realization. 🙏
TLDR: Our perception of the world is a coded representation on our internal dashboard, which is limited by our cognitive abilities and prioritizes survival over truth.
1. 00:00 🧠 Our perception of the world is limited by our cognitive abilities.
1.1 Our perception of the world as it is in itself is not accurate, as our internal cognitive states cannot mirror the complexity and variety of states of the world out there.
2. 01:13 🧠 Perception is not a mirror of the world, but an encoded representation that helps us maintain structural and dynamical integrity.
2.1 Perception is not a mirror of the world, but an encoded representation, as mirroring the world in our internal cognitive states would result in an infinite complexity and variety of inner states, leading to an inability to maintain structural and dynamical integrity.
3. 02:33 ✈ Pilots rely on instrument readings to navigate through the air.
3.1 Airplane pilots fly by instruments connected to sensors that measure parameters of the world up and present the results on the dashboard.
4. 03:16 🧠 Our perception is a dashboard that encodes accurate information about the world, but it is not the world itself.
4.1 Our perception is like a dashboard, providing encoded but accurate information about the world, but it is not the world itself.
5. 04:43 🤔 Perception ≠ Reality: Evolution prioritizes survival over truth.
5.1 Perception is not an accurate representation of the world as it is due to the fact that evolution favors survival over truth.
6. 05:57 💾 A computer file is a collection of microscopic electronic switches in flash memory.
6.1 A computer file is not actually a white rectangle, but rather a collection of millions of microscopic electronic switches open or closed in the flash memory.
7. 06:50 🧠 Evolution gave us a dashboard to see the world as encoded representations.
7.1 Evolution equipped us with a dashboard metaphor to see the world as encoded representations instead of overwhelming us with information.
8. 08:02 🧠 The world we perceive is a coded representation on our internal dashboard.
8.1 The world we experience is not the physical reality, but rather an encoded representation on our internal dashboard.
“If it is not physical, not material, then what is it” - even children understand it. The answer is visual, the world is visual. That means reality is dreamscapes (being) that must form a continuum comprised of related finite particles of dark and light relativity. Life is only a dream. So the question is not so much ‘what is it’ or ‘why is it’ but what does it equip us to do. We are able to understand things.
Kantian/Hegelian. So correct.
I find this new series of videos very clear and interesting. Have you published a study which makes use of game theory? Or could you point me to some articles? Thank you.
It's also important to mention that most other cultures do not percieve the world as just phisical. Percieveing the wolrd as just phisical is culturally imposed learned behavior.
"Mind and Spirit" project led by T. M. Luhrnmann shows that in some other cultures, people view certain phenomenon that we think as "just in our head" as outside events whitch opens them up for experiences that are quite rare in the modern west. This is because they don't have this false dichotomy that devides "our mind" from the world "outside".
Whether the world "as it actually is" can or cannot be apprehended by humans at all is an open question. I believe it can be, but only directly, "without thought coverings", in other words non-conceptually. Words and numbers cannot produce a fine enough net in which to capture it.
Maybe a better word for the operation system of the computer would be the 'user interface'.
Hello Dr. Kastrup. My question is as follows: If the world is not our representation or as it is shown to us, what would be the problem if it still works?
Would our perception of the outside world have to depend on our previous interpretation of it ? In a previous mental construct ?
And would it be plausible to deduce that we are the producers of that perceived biological outcome ?
How could it be another way ?
Percepção é uma representação codificada do mundo, não uma janela transparente para o mundo em si. Estamos "voando por instrumentos", mas o painel de instrumentos não é o mundo em si, apenas representações codificadas sobre o que é relevante a respeito do mundo. Nossa percepção é um painel de controle desenhado pela evolução. Isso não quer dizer que devamos ignorar o painel de controle. A evolução não se preocupa com o mundo como ele é, com sua infinidade de informação nem sempre relevante a seus "propósitos". Ela se preocupa com a melhor adaptabilidade, sobrevivência e reprodução. O "físico" ou "material" é o nome que damos ao que está no painel de controle.
You are right about the percetion in my idea. But to claim that evolution let us to filter and manage sensory data is conratdicting with the fundamental assumption of the systems are progressing from simple to complex nature. In order to realize and manage these information you need to have more complex system in my idea.
What do you mean by ‘states’?
I know what you're saying about consciousness. So we're looking at a dashboard. We're creating it up in in our mind. But what if I take a photgraphe and it looks perfect. Did the camera make the image up in it's own mind?
If you run a program that makes a screenshot of a dashboard (or its part) the result will look like the dashboard. The program doesn't have its own mind.
The free course would be much more absorbed if it's accompanied by visuals, granted that The Universe is best explained by geometry for it is impartial, concise, and intuitive.
The map is not the territory, and the territory isn't the whole story either.
In fact the 'territory' may well be just another level of map.
Oddly, I read
Perception vs Reality
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Perception is Reality
The Reality that we see is our Perception.
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I've always found this "hot soup" argument somewhat weak. It's a straw man argument - no one could reasonably claim that we perceive all of the information defining the state of the universe. But it could still be possible for our perception to be a "literal image" of the world as it really is, just "low-pass filtered." A fuzzy image, if you will. Filtered however much is made necessary by our limitations. The claim of analytic idealism is that the "translation" between reality and perception is much more extensive.
By the way, I buy into your program - I'm not arguing against you here.