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It's so weird because the culture around Twitch players is that it's very smurf heavy, but then you go on r/TwitchMains and it's just the actual dumbest stuff you could ever hear from people claiming they are Master+
Yeah thats why my theory-crafting is solely based on the higher quality youtube comments
its because actual good players are playing the game and not sitting on reddit all day
only low elo uses reddit ngl
It’s almost like human beings with an in over 80 aren’t posting on fucking Reddit
thats just all of reddit
maligma + shadowflame + IE combo DISH DISH DISH
And runaans plus rabadons to finish the build off
@@MenikMankkey don't forget tabis for tankiness
Lig ma
Please stop cooking
Stop it youre scaring me
the ap from 2 rods building into rabadons is stronger than malignance
hee ho
hmm i wonder why
The first 1 minute of the match is the proof that Iron exists in 6 different colors.
in 8
there is merit to late game malignance to work with twitch's w slow scaling, but it's immediately shut down by the fact that when you get to the point of 95% slows on him, you definitely have enough damage to one shot them with e, completely negating any usage from malignance
Nitch situation where you need to R spam off-cd in LATE GAME
:v
@@Rhyolite-hyena yeah but at that point just buy more AP, also by doing this you disregard the whole mana aspect that COULD be useful, if ap twitch had any mana problems
Only way I could see it working is if you have all AP team and even then someone else can probably buy it over twitch.
@@Jaybird9xyou don’t really need ap damaging item if you have true damage passive, just build more flat ap
@@tab418 yep. Just thinking of possible ways to ever use it. I think it’s the stupidest item to ever build on twitch
Couldn't get a better game than that to prove how little to no damage the item does, malignance within 11 mins, with the same gold he could have bought two large rods instead of malignance and have 60 more ap on a champion that has an absurd scaling on his E and passive.
The only positive i find about this item is how often you could end up using ulti to get an easy kill especially on the midlaner but if you plan to build it 2nd you most likely arent even in the laning phase anymore for that strat to be viable.
Skill issue, item is good for plenty of champs
@@mellywood build it on those champs then?
@@mellywoodthe point is that it’s shit on twitch specifically. people already know it’s good on other champs..
@@mellywood do you have learning disabilities bro?
@@SandySalesman Read the fucking comment maybe?
Idk seems like the only point of the item is the 45 ulti haste if you want to spam twitch R off CD but you can just choose to fight less and go defensive or something with more damage.
Even if its a comp you can only fight in ult range you will rather just play around your W as ap. Super gimmicky . Don’t know why people keep talking about the damage though, it still reduces MR and he did use ult basically every time it was up so it wasn’t “that” bad . But no way its better than just going rabadons into zhon or banshees.
i think the ideal build now is nashors, malig, runnans, shadow flame, and IE clearly (kapppaaaaa)
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I have a question and I’m not trying to troll or anything, idk if it makes sense or not, but basically when you go nasher+deathcap+banshee+hourglass then you have to choose last item, and you already do TONS of dmg, would it be dumb to build a defensive item last instead of more dmg since you already do so much dmg? Ik ppl do stuff like this on ad but I mean on ap, since you already have 50mr and armour would jaksho be good? Since the item gets more value from having more resistances from other items as well? Just a dumb shower though from someone who doesn’t even play twitch😅🙈
Well my english is shit but ill try to be clear, iv already thinks about this in the past because yeah stack more hp ans resistance could be really good since wa want to play slow and défensive with ap twitch.
But the thing is that jaksho doesnt fit well with ap twi playstyle cuz its absolutly not the same as lethal tempo with botrk terminus tita when u had to open and stack lethal to do long fight and stay alive much as possible, thats not wat you want when you play ap.
Home thats clear let me know
Void staff. Late game hourglass+banshee is all you need and any extra defensive item will not do anything to save your life and will only cut your dmg. Jaksho implies you are going to be fighting for a while and nearby enemies when that is counterintuitive to AP twitch identity which is toss W, R for a few autos, E and walk away
@@ot1346 Yes you don't necessarily want a full defensive item on ap twitch but void staff is almost never the buy. Twitch is doing a substantial amount of mixed damage, often doing more true damage than either magic or physical (and sometimes more physical than magic, even when full ap). Remember the only magic damage in Twitch's kit is the ap portion of his e, but he has an ad portion, and his autos do a solid amount of physical damage with the extra ad from R, plus the 150 true damage tick per second. The pen from the void staff is largely going to waste and it's almost always better to grab another AP item with more ap or ah.
Also generally, cryptbloom is almost always going to output more DPS than void (for anyone) unless you're against 3+ tanks with the extra AH
@@SomebodyHated to each their own. Void staff/whatever we are talking about is almost always a last item buy anyways as the standard is nashors boots dcap banshee zhonyas and then X item. At that point in the game everyone will already have high mr and the game revolves around getting a single pick so personally I like having higher burst.
@@SomebodyHatedgo look at dmg charts next time u play ap Twitch, cuz that is so absolutely wrong
10:51 Does the Malignance only count the flat damage dealt or does it include the damage difference of the enemies having 10 less MR?
FLY HIGH MR EARL 🕊️ 12 views in 1 minute, your channel fell off but your existence is eternal ❤
it only procs 2 times or it procs 1 time per attack per champion? like can you proc it 15 times in a fight?
once per champion, per ulti.
@@JacobTheSunPreacher no, i already tested it, it has an internal cooldown per champion of like 1s
I think its one of those situational items into comps or teams that want to group so you can get multiple procs or xombo with heavy cc teammates.
Ok but Rat nobody buys malignance for the damage. I 100% agree delaying the better items like dcap/banshee/zhonyas is grief but looking at the damage is a straw man.
Not defending the item but you actually got ult again in like 3 different skirmishes. I’ll def try it on Smurf for fiesta
Statistically 90% of the playerbase is straight up bad, but that 90% are very sure of what they think you should be doing😂
The Ult CDR is... not really necessary, but nice to have if you're in a game with constant fighting.
The DOT circle is pretty much worthless, and there's no good reason to build the item for this effect. The only way to use it more effectively is to get Runaan's so you can generate more than 2 circle dots per ult. Even then it's still a waste of money.
Honestly the AD version of this item might be better anyway. Still not good enough, but at least you get AS and speed for it.
there is an ad version?
and runnans works with this?
exactly what the true damage dot champ needs. small magic dot with small mr shred.
Isnt malignance strength being able to spam ult in basically every fight? You're trading damage for versatility, it's not supposed to do crazy amounts of dmg since it gives you that much haste
11:40 Does Twitch passive apply Rylai's? If so, Rylai's + Malignance might actually be fine (but still garbage compared to the normal build).
the cdr that the item give it what makes it worth to take body
To be fair I think maligma is good for the ability haste, especially on R, the magic pen and the mana
bro that level 1 was HILARIOUS wp rat
hello guys if i get 1 like i will run it down my next ranked
run it down mid
Lmao i will keep tbis one like so he does it.
Only reason for me to think why should buy is cd for using R often but if u buy damage instead its gonna let u snowball even harder than buy this item
doesnt matter how interesting is the video, earl voice always makes me feel sleepy
the fact he got a 2x kill because senna stoped his back
I wanted malignance to work so bad this whole season so I could use it in ARAM.
Everyone are in one lane so it gets more value and you go: first strike, treasure hunter, liandrys, malignance, collector/nashoor, shadowflame and your W cd is so short you become a poke mage that can poke them under turret.
Invis makes it risky for them to walk up and ofc you need nashoors most of the time but depending on the comps you won’t get to auto a lot so I go without it in many games. Collector + burn is OP tech in aram and first strike + treasure hunter gets me full items while most others are on 3 lol
Wyd you can never right click in ARAM? im always double digit kills on ARAM twitch without spacegliding , im standing still press R and right clicking champs. Doesnt matter if you AP/AD twitch is a monster in ARAM
Dude there’s no way you’re doing more with that than you would with just Nashor-Dcap. Collector is a waste of 3100 gold just for the 5% execute which amounts to like 100-300 damage at most. Might as well just get shadowflame at that point because the low hp crit value is probably ~the same and you get a bunch of ap from it. Like Nash-Dcap-Shadowflame-Zhonya/banshee-banshee/zhonya with cdr boots
@@rada9000 ikr, every twitch i played with in aram, despise knowing what to do with the champion or not, always is a decent treat with ulti + attacking standing still
feel like maligma would be useful only in fist fights late game no?
Tbf i glad they made it proc, it sounded weird without that interaction (i tried it in aram and was deluded)
Ngl its probably not that bad in ARAM since its perma fighting and having ult for any fight is nice. Probably still not "optimal" but ARAM is for fun anyways
havent watched yet so idk what to say but i hope yall have a good weekend
is that a personnal attack or something?
League players will see an interesting interaction and think its op immediately. Lol
7:09 WTF WAS THAT BLITZ'S Q?!?!?!?!
Wait It doesnt proc before? What?
maligma balls
a rampage video to shows that magligma is a wrong choice lol
Why is his smurf called snow tha product, is he a fan or something ?
maLIGMA ballz, funny 🤣😭 (pls help)
ratirl with the +600 lp gain instantly
Holy shit rat, you need to try shadow flame and malignance, it’s insanely broken
Nah how it says no views and 4 comments already
the only reason that this item would be good, is for tempo with ap twitch mid but even then it's still going to get outshadowed by other items, the ability haste + ult haste makes it really easy to make plays if you're strong / in a good spot but if you don't make those plays then you're fucked, just not good D:
At 9:00 this man had a flashback to his old toxic days and then brought himself back to reality
Fanum taxed bros views
Is there merit to build this on AD twitch? Or somekind of hybrid twitch that goes Nashors Malignance into Runaan?
Ah yes the classic Runaan into IE late game XD
(watch his few videos ago where he say how ridiculous hybrid build is)
@@Rhyolite-hyena But it is such a good build 🤓
i don't know why people keep stretching new items into twitch's build. Bro, anything other than Nashor > Boots > Dcap > Zhonya > Banshee > Shadowflame is shit. And AD twitch is WORTHLESS nowadays.
@@allansqr1 rat has said AD twitch is good wdym?
No if you need R cd that bad just go Hexplate
I always like to rush malignance after my liandri's and protobelt on twitch. (This is a joke, laugh pls)
how the heck did you find players worse than me!?
There was a point where Malignance damage ticked for 2 in aram for 6 weeks but nobody noticed. The most dmg you'd see after a game was like 200, even on champs where the item should be good.
Nah malignance the 98 dmg item on most champs
Makes twitch broken
10:38 heat seeking to low elo jajajajaja
why is his name snow tha product, is that not a rapper?
yep and its one of his old ass accs from yrs ago
w 99% slow into malignance thing is the only thing that makes sense abt buying it
@communistindisguise8777 hi i am just saying the only synergistic logic behind building it on twitch is the w slow keeps them inside. not saying its good or if u need the extra dmg loll
Mfdabest levels of itemization
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guys what do you think about seraphin¿
why dont you try maligma with sorcs boots it is 28 flat pen
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The AI is not the same 😢, I wish he was still with us 💔 fly high earl 🕊️🕊️🕊️
Your brain fell off
AD twitch pentakills here
Probably not great as an early item, I absolutely see how much it sucks to not have raw AP through rabadons early, but after that I could definitely see it as 3rd/4th item, since R remains at 90s CD and little CDR is built, the additional Ult CD might actually make a difference in a reasonable number of games. Plus, in a late-mid/late game scenario, the chances are higher to make use of the actual dmg effect of malignance because w is so much stronger and there tend to be more people that might be dmged by it. Hope he tries it for a few games at least.
malignence + rylays for best no damage build
fiesta in midlane in the early game and senna is afk XD classic botlaner
Watched this while drunk very cool rat
maligma.
1:00 its like he's complaining that he has to play his champ normally lmfao yes Mr. Earl you need to hit them to proc the item that's how it works! now let's get you back to the old folks home!
for me it would be a majority do I want a high ult CD or not
maligma nuts
HOW EARLY ARE WE?!
W IGN ANTON!
Iron IV type of game
had a kaisa go malignance not too long ago, so yeah, alot of people are dumb
Praise God
Does maligma do less dmg sure but its sure as fuck fun on ap mal on aram I'll tell you that😂
u are giving away 138 ap for a passive that only works on your ult and they can just walk out of it
TOTALLY WORTH IT MAN
I'm just gonna try building this first. Malignance first, maybe I even skip Nash, playing him like a mid lane mage rather than an APC.
It's... not GOOD, but I kind of Q + Ult for tower platings now already in mid lane. In low elo it might be enough.
it definitely is not optimal, but it can offer a diverse artillery mage playstyle to twitch that may be more fun for some people
it does not offer anything, it's only good as like 4th-5th item
I tried it. It's terrible. Do not buy.
Malignance + rylai?
One game in low masta
I think the value of it comes more from the ult cdr and Mr shred.
Pen works for E only
passive deal True dmg
Cant believe he sitll copes that shadowflame is not bis second item
that senna sucks
Wow they really hate adc
I think a lot of people just look at the damage the item deals in the tooltip that doesn't include the extra pen and say it's bad.
However, twitch isn't exactly salivating over magic pen when the enemies are standing still, so i would say this item is still pretty bad on him :)
also doesn't twitch deal true dmg even if he scales with ap? so the magic pen isn't actually neede∂
The item need a slow so they take decent amount of damage from it
That's gonna make the item overloaded. Let's not do that.
It would be cool to have slowing puddles, but champs like Ahri, Karthus Karma exists.
Karma RQ would effectivly be a root. The same with Teemo R, but that is managable.
And Ahri's E even at max range will be basically impossible to dodge without dashes.
Also a gauranteed 5 man slow every teamfight with Karthus doesn't seem fun at al.
@@aldohorn1704 considering that the majority of champions buying malignance now buy it because they already have slows on their ults, it would become a meta item for sure.
@@aldohorn1704 it’s that or they make the zone for malignace bigger( ment to say you need to have a slow for malignace to work oops)
Hi
I'm glad they at least let this interaction exist
It'll be fun for silly builds lol
Now make his w proc spell effects and we're cooking
I love how ratirl continues to upload after his passing RIP
But you forget to factor in the flat mr pen this provides kinda significant e dmg to eceryone with little mr
YOU CAN THROW ROCKS AT ME BUT shadowflame 3th item ngl is nice item , just to see enemies die from poison crit, adds to the psychological warfare
second?
honestly league redditors are so dog 99% of the time lmfao
I mean yeah.
Even in tft when i used to play, reddit was dumb as hell. Saying shit that was only relevant like 2 patches ago.
Why
So that's why
i hate yappers like senna so much kappa chungus deluxe maximus
I mean, if twitch r gave temporary ap maybe but, yeah its fucking garbage. Fucking riftmaker is a better item on twitch. Fuck id rather even go stride breaker, atleast it acts as peel
obviously this is broken in some situations. i would not buy it as 2nd item, its better to buy it more late game when the enemy comp allows to. In this video we always see situations where he didnt level his w enough so it doesnt slow much, also often single targets so he got like 1-2 malignance dmg areas. of course it doesnt do dmg. but think of a situation in late game where a 5v5 teamfight starts, enemy champs are near each other and the twitch w slows 90%. why would it be useless? you get like at least 7 malignance dmg areas, in most of the cases even more since you aa more often, all over the enemies. if they cant dash out easily they are slowed heavily and stand inside it for a while. they even stand in 2-3 areas of it at the same time. would probably do up to 5k dmg per teamfight. even if youre attacking a single target and he is slowed to over 90% without dash, he will stand in 3 malignance areas at the same time. as i said you usually build this item early game, but i would build it in late game. it even scales with ap and has higher value the more your w slows. nearly 100% ap ratio and reduces magic resist. how can people say its useless? Its completely broken. Sorry to disagree with ratirl even when he plays twitch for a living for years, but the test in practice tool says nothing. why does he test is with 0 other items and only does a single aa to test the dmg? thats just not the regular situation obviously
i will call in a few days/weeks every ap twitch buys it
You are unbelievably low elo to think malignance can ever be good. Sure I see your point late game it can do dmg with people slowed in w. But the other ap items are so much better in every way. You don't need mana or ultimate haste on ap twitch so your spending money on things that you dont need. But if you go hourglass and banshees, all the stats are perfect for twitch (survivability and raw ap). Ap twitch doesn't need more dmg then just raw ap. And if you are dying because you don't have hourglass and banshees how can you even dish out dmg?? Please tell me you are below bronze
@@kz1674 obviously you cant read, i said in some Situations. Ofc d4 peakers think everone else is low elo. Im Grandmaster btw
@@pizzaschinken4374 no in 0 situations does malignance have more value then hourglass and banshees, assuming u are going it after nashers and deathcap because if you go before then you are straight up banned from buying items ever again. You are either lying about ur rank or just straight up shit
@@kz1674 ok d4 peaker
that aphelios is perfect example of idiots who watch scam youtubers like Glacierr or the best twitch build guy. Just build and play whatever the fake lol youtuber who farms clips of him 1v9ing in low silver says is MOST BROKEN and go 0/10 ruining games on ranked in master
Rat you are not considering it lowers their MR for your E, and lowers the cooldown of your ult! if you look at malignance damage number even on champs its good on it will be low! its broken! grow up
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