I'm a sucker for a group of misfits banding together and finding kind of makeshift family/crew with one another, there are tons of examples but Six of Crows is one of my favourites for this.
I'm a sucker for fake relationship stuff... when two people have to pretend for whatever reason that they're dating but they haven't realized that they actually have feelings for each other? I love it :D
Omg the trope i'm addicted to is the love story that starts out with two people who don't get along at first... basically anything that gives me Pride and Prejudice vibes, lol. Sometimes it's so-so, but more often than not, I eat those stories UP!
TheLittlebats Not a book, but if you've never watched She's the Man with Amanda Bynes you'd probably enjoy that. I also need some recommendations for actual books with this trope, lol
Read The Song of the Lioness Quartet by Tamora Pierce (first book is called Alanna) She takes the place of her twin brother to become a Knight in a Medieval fantasy setting
I'm a huge sucker for the romance subplot between the main guy and girl in any adventure book or movie. It's cliche I know, but I always love it! (This was especially well done in Percy Jackson)
For me it's because I would rather see the character pursue the goal, whatever it is, with their own motivation and through a great effort. Basically, if the character is prophecised to save the world it feels like they have already done it in the future. If they are supposed to have the weight of the world on their shoulders why not have them become the leader of a global world-saving group? Or maybe not even the leader, just a pawn with a most crucial task?
Carbon2861996 you definitely have a point and I can see from both sides of the spectrum, I have come to realise that motivations are a key part of character development so I do agree with your statement. But I do enjoy the trope in some cases.
I personally love the “forbidden love” trope. IF DONE RIGHT lol. Also I really enjoy the “evil redemption” trope. Like the antagonist or anti-hero turns the other cheek and decides to help the protagonist save the world. Or the person we thought was really evil turns out to be misunderstood.
I love a positive view of YA tropes! As an aspiring author, it's sometimes disheartening when people are so negative about tropes, since it's hard to avoid all of them when writing genre fiction. Your list has a lot in common with my current work in progress, which makes me very happy, haha! Hopefully, if and when it's ever published, you'll pick it up and enjoy it!!!
Whenever there is a character that likes to read/is nerdy ends up with the popular person who secretly likes to read/is also nerdy...I don't know why but I always love that
I love training sequences where you get to see the work that characters put in to train in their skills/magic/fighting/academia UGH SO SATISFYING AND MOTIVATING
Oh I love books set in boarding schools, summer camps to I can't explain it but the instant you set something in a boarding school or a summer camp especially a magical boarding school for summer camp a la Camp Half-Blood or Hogwarts it more interesting to me.
I love the 'lost royalty' trope, even though its so overused and they've beaten it into our heads a billion times. I think the barbie movies I watched when I was kid was to blame for why I love this trope so much.
I am also obsessed with the boarding school trope. I also actively seek out books with that kind of setting (movies too - I love St Trinians and Wild Child). And, same as you, that possibly stemmed from my love of Harry Potter. I definitely agree with the idea that part of the allure is that the kids have more freedom without their parents hovering over them. But I think it's also partly that I went to lots of camps when I was younger, and the idea of a boarding school just seemed like an extended camp - just without the flying foxes and a lot more school work lol. Also the idea of living with lots of people your own age, possibly sharing a room with your friends, so you get to hang out all the time... There's so much that appeals to me about that trope. It's also a fantastic setting for weird/magical/mysterious/creepy things to happen, and that's usually what does happen in these books, and it's the sort of thing I love. On the theme of the boarding school trope, I recommend "Down a Dark Hall" by Lois Duncan. It was written several decades ago, but she did update it recently to accommodate modern technology. It's very creepy - all of Lois Duncan's books are.
I love so many of these tropes, especially the chosen one! No matter how many times it's used I will still read it! And regarding the complicated romance I always enjoy the hate to love relationships! I live for those!
I love the thing especially in fantasy when there is a list of different character descriptions who all come together and form sort of a found family and we follow all of their perspectives (ex: Six of Crows) I just love characters and I get really excited about books that have those one line descriptions of several characters that we will follow!
Great Video! Any chance of making this a series where you recommend books for each trope?!? That would be awesome! I'm such a sucker for that brooding boy trope!
I also LOVE the 'complicated romance' cliche. Another of my favourites is the 'main protagonist goes bad to save the people they love and then the people who love them have to try and bring them back', as well as the 'protagonist makes a bad decision that proves they aren't perfect and are human too'. If these are done well, then I'm basically trash for the book
Ugh, I am such trash for boarding school cliches lol. Agree 100% on all your points. As for the chosen one trope, I kind of have a love/hate relationship with it. I feel oftentimes authors use this as an excuse to make their characters immediately great at everything. If done correctly (which is rare in my opinion) the book/series usually becomes one of my all time favorites.
Given your love for the boarding school trope, you should look into the "Knightley Academy" duo by Violet Haberdasher. It is more of a middle-grade book about an academy for knights and it is awesome! You would love it, I would highly recommend checking it out, as I have yet to see it discussed on booktube!
I want to go to a castle boarding school in England too (I think all of us HP lovers do, let's be real)! I'm a total sucker for so many of these too- the chosen one/magical skills training ones especially. I also really love to see best friends fall in love and magical competitions!
Boarding school YES! I need more boarding school recs! And the complicated relationship, FOR SURE. That's how it's in my new book and I hope I did it well haha Great video :)
I love the prophecy trope. I love books with vague fortold fortunes, that don't make sense until the very end of the book. Or the metaphor or motif that runs through the whole book.
I agree with you on the romance. I find that romance is my guilty pleasure BUT! It has to be done right. Like you mentioned, when it's a slow burn, something complex and complicated it's awesome. But on the other hand, I HATE insta-love. Or, I also don't like when I buy like, a mystery book or fantasy book where the plot is something really awesome but it gets drowned out by the romantic drama. I LOVE YOU VIDEOS! Saludos desde Peru ^^
i agree with all of these except for the "chosen one" trope. in my opinion it's overdone and i personally find it more empowering to have a character who has the determination and courage to step up for a task on their own. great list, though!
Based on this video I have to recommend "The Burning Sky" from the elemental trilogy by Sherry Thomas. It has the chosen one, and the girl has to dress as a guy AND the boarding school "cliches". It also has a bit of a middle grade feel which I know you can appreciate. This series is right up there with my favourites and I think deserves way more love!
You should watch the Sungkyunkwan Scandal! It's a subtitled Korean drama on Hulu that follows this girl who needs to dress as a boy to make money to care for her sick brother and she ends up going to an all male boarding school. It takes place in historical Korea so it's beautiful and hilarious and it has the complicated romance you want.
Me: oh look a love “triangle!” Such complexity! Also me: *decides to give my protagonists a literal love triangle (not a V) a multiple people crushing on one person scenario, forbidden romance, “forced” romance, platonic friendships and mentor ships etc*
i looove the boarding school trope!! anybody have any recs? i've read "anna and the french kiss" and "the school for good and evil" and really enjoyed them! (edit: thanks for all the recs guys!!)
Looking for Alaska by john green, if you haven’t already read it. There were some aspects i definitely did not enjoy (manic pixie dream girl) but the boarding school setting is very present:)
Have you ever hear of the gallagher girls series? I think it's right up your alley. It has none of the hated tropes and it's about a boarding school for gifted girls to learn how to be spies. Espionage, a clueless boyfriend whose not an asshole, there's a slight love triangle but that lasts for less than a fraction of a book and she's already made her decision by the time it rears its ugly head, All of the main characters come from different backgrounds, there's a strong family aspect explored in many ways, there's a bit of a chosen one feel but more as them choosing to act on what they've learned. Did I mention POC characters? Because everyone's unique. There's a bit of "invisible girl" syndrome with the main character but instead of hating it, she embraces it because it makes her a better operative. It's an amazing series that gets better and better as they go. Short and written kinda foolishly at times but its language matures with the C characters so it works out.
I think it’s good but it never works on me. I always see something wrong with the perfect guy so I tend to suspect something. It’s awesome but it’s just not a surprise to me.
Yes! Boarding School YA novels are my favorite. I am certain that I love this particular cliche because of Harry Potter. The chosen one type of cliche is, I feel, necessary in almost every story.
I'm a sucker for a group of misfits banding together and finding kind of makeshift family/crew with one another, there are tons of examples but Six of Crows is one of my favourites for this.
these books are my absolute favorites 🙌
Definitely!
another one is The Lunar Chronicles
Heroes of Olympus too
The raven boys tooo
I love the villain turning good trope or like antiheroes dunno why I just live for that stuff.
AYF D YES
Mine would 100% be hate to love
Jay G same
Romione my otp
Do you have any books to recommend?
Same but do you have any good ones with that element to recommend
YESSS
I'm a sucker for fake relationship stuff... when two people have to pretend for whatever reason that they're dating but they haven't realized that they actually have feelings for each other? I love it :D
I really love the “hate to love” trope, it’s not really specific to YA because you can find it anywhere.
Oooo I love when the characters go from enemies to lovers
I love people finding out they have powers/magic too!
Same here. I know it's used awhole lot but I love it.
I think it has something to do with the fact that we all hope we’ll discover one too XD
Omg the trope i'm addicted to is the love story that starts out with two people who don't get along at first... basically anything that gives me Pride and Prejudice vibes, lol. Sometimes it's so-so, but more often than not, I eat those stories UP!
I love that one. Especially when the boy character is like the one with the one who has a lot of jokes that irritate the main character.
Yeah when the guy isnt abusive and dark or bad boy😄just dont get along to gether is great
Forbidden romance is my weakness... as long as the obstacle keeping the LIs apart makes a decent amount of sense
Omg please give more recommendations on the "girl disguised as guy" trope! Especially if a love interest gets involved. The Mulan effect lol
TheLittlebats Not a book, but if you've never watched She's the Man with Amanda Bynes you'd probably enjoy that.
I also need some recommendations for actual books with this trope, lol
Then read Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld!
You should read Princess of Thorns! It has the trope you mentioned 😊
Flame in the mist!!
Read The Song of the Lioness Quartet by Tamora Pierce (first book is called Alanna) She takes the place of her twin brother to become a Knight in a Medieval fantasy setting
I'm a huge sucker for the romance subplot between the main guy and girl in any adventure book or movie. It's cliche I know, but I always love it! (This was especially well done in Percy Jackson)
I honestly don’t know why so many people dislike the “chosen one” trope. I agree with you, it’s a trope I really enjoy if it’s done right. 😊
For me it's because I would rather see the character pursue the goal, whatever it is, with their own motivation and through a great effort. Basically, if the character is prophecised to save the world it feels like they have already done it in the future. If they are supposed to have the weight of the world on their shoulders why not have them become the leader of a global world-saving group? Or maybe not even the leader, just a pawn with a most crucial task?
Carbon2861996 you definitely have a point and I can see from both sides of the spectrum, I have come to realise that motivations are a key part of character development so I do agree with your statement. But I do enjoy the trope in some cases.
Of course, I'm not saying that it can't be done well, though it's much harder to do it right or somehow originally.
I love the "chosen one" trope but I really want to see a book from the perspective of a friend of a "chosen one"
I would did for the enemies to lovers trope
the Found Family trope is the reason i BREATHE
I also love the chosen one-trope!
And also the super slow-burning romance!
I personally love the “forbidden love” trope. IF DONE RIGHT lol. Also I really enjoy the “evil redemption” trope. Like the antagonist or anti-hero turns the other cheek and decides to help the protagonist save the world. Or the person we thought was really evil turns out to be misunderstood.
I love a positive view of YA tropes! As an aspiring author, it's sometimes disheartening when people are so negative about tropes, since it's hard to avoid all of them when writing genre fiction. Your list has a lot in common with my current work in progress, which makes me very happy, haha! Hopefully, if and when it's ever published, you'll pick it up and enjoy it!!!
Whenever there is a character that likes to read/is nerdy ends up with the popular person who secretly likes to read/is also nerdy...I don't know why but I always love that
I love training sequences where you get to see the work that characters put in to train in their skills/magic/fighting/academia UGH SO SATISFYING AND MOTIVATING
i love the love triangle. if you hate one love interest, you have another one to root for!
one trope that i adore is that drop where the vilain explains the revenge he had planned , i love it so much
When I saw this I was thinking of my fav YA tropes and the first thing that came to my mind was the boarding school trope, and then you said it
Yaaas, the chosen one trope is actually my favourite thing ever!!!
Oh I love books set in boarding schools, summer camps to I can't explain it but the instant you set something in a boarding school or a summer camp especially a magical boarding school for summer camp a la Camp Half-Blood or Hogwarts it more interesting to me.
Gotta love the hate to love relationship trope
oh yeah that is def another good one
100% agree with all five. But especially the boarding school setting, the chosen one trope and the secret destiny trope. LOVE BEYOND WORDS
I'm a massive sucker for a quality, nuanced villain redemption character arc
I love the 'lost royalty' trope, even though its so overused and they've beaten it into our heads a billion times. I think the barbie movies I watched when I was kid was to blame for why I love this trope so much.
I am also obsessed with the boarding school trope. I also actively seek out books with that kind of setting (movies too - I love St Trinians and Wild Child). And, same as you, that possibly stemmed from my love of Harry Potter. I definitely agree with the idea that part of the allure is that the kids have more freedom without their parents hovering over them. But I think it's also partly that I went to lots of camps when I was younger, and the idea of a boarding school just seemed like an extended camp - just without the flying foxes and a lot more school work lol. Also the idea of living with lots of people your own age, possibly sharing a room with your friends, so you get to hang out all the time... There's so much that appeals to me about that trope. It's also a fantastic setting for weird/magical/mysterious/creepy things to happen, and that's usually what does happen in these books, and it's the sort of thing I love.
On the theme of the boarding school trope, I recommend "Down a Dark Hall" by Lois Duncan. It was written several decades ago, but she did update it recently to accommodate modern technology. It's very creepy - all of Lois Duncan's books are.
I love a magical boarding school setting or a rainy misty foresty by the lake town setting.
Ooooh yes I absolutely LOVE the disguised character trope, it makes for so much tension!
Could you please do a video about Book Recommendations including complicated romances? It would be pretty cool.
That's a great idea!
I love the trope where the two main love interests start out hating each other mutually then grow closer after getting to know one another
I love so many of these tropes, especially the chosen one! No matter how many times it's used I will still read it! And regarding the complicated romance I always enjoy the hate to love relationships! I live for those!
I love the thing especially in fantasy when there is a list of different character descriptions who all come together and form sort of a found family and we follow all of their perspectives (ex: Six of Crows) I just love characters and I get really excited about books that have those one line descriptions of several characters that we will follow!
I will love book cliches until the day I die. I’m trash for them, lmao. My FAV has to be when the character is “the chosen one.” 🤣
When you talked about Cassandra Clare it made me realise that she literally uses that for every couple haha. Turns out I also love that trope.
Not a book, but Victor Victoria is a movie using one of the tropes that you mentioned. GREAT music and JULIE ANDREWS! I friggin' love her.
this is so random but the color palette and lightning in this video looked amazing
Any complicated love story is a go for me! I also enjoy Chosen One stories.
i love the YA orphan trope, i'm almost certain in all of my favourite series the mc is orphaned
I love when characters have to act a certain way to survive
I LOVE secret powers trope but its gotten overused that it’s not done right very often but when it is it’s 👌🏻
Completely agree with the boarding school setting. Love it
The finale empire by Brandon Sanderson has a disguise with Vin is the thing I live for
the "from enemies to lovers" trope is absolutely my favourite. (and yes, i am thinking about magneo from TFK)
Great Video! Any chance of making this a series where you recommend books for each trope?!? That would be awesome!
I'm such a sucker for that brooding boy trope!
I also LOVE the 'complicated romance' cliche. Another of my favourites is the 'main protagonist goes bad to save the people they love and then the people who love them have to try and bring them back', as well as the 'protagonist makes a bad decision that proves they aren't perfect and are human too'. If these are done well, then I'm basically trash for the book
Ugh, I am such trash for boarding school cliches lol. Agree 100% on all your points. As for the chosen one trope, I kind of have a love/hate relationship with it. I feel oftentimes authors use this as an excuse to make their characters immediately great at everything. If done correctly (which is rare in my opinion) the book/series usually becomes one of my all time favorites.
Given your love for the boarding school trope, you should look into the "Knightley Academy" duo by Violet Haberdasher. It is more of a middle-grade book about an academy for knights and it is awesome! You would love it, I would highly recommend checking it out, as I have yet to see it discussed on booktube!
Complicated romance: The Last Magician. The angst level basically drove me insane.
Favorite trope: Hate turned romance. Gets me almost every time.
I love boarding schools too, pretty much the reason I liked Anna and the French Kiss :D
I'd love to watch a whole recommendation video based on these cliches ❤❤
yes!! you’re getting me out of my reading slump thank you!!!
This is such a fun video idea! 😊 Magical schools are my favourite!
I want to go to a castle boarding school in England too (I think all of us HP lovers do, let's be real)! I'm a total sucker for so many of these too- the chosen one/magical skills training ones especially. I also really love to see best friends fall in love and magical competitions!
Boarding school YES! I need more boarding school recs! And the complicated relationship, FOR SURE. That's how it's in my new book and I hope I did it well haha Great video :)
The Mortal Instruments didn't push Clary into being a master Shadowhunter.And I love that she didn't put Jace above her family and friends.
going off the complicated romance trope, I love hate-to-love romances (when done well)
My favorite ya thing is the friends to lovers.
i love forbidden romance! but as you said, when it makes sense that something is keeping them apart
I love haters or enemies to lovers, and I too love the chosen one trope. I also love forbidden romances and anti-heroes/villains.
enemies to lovers.
Yess complicated love trope is my favorite!! Hahah
I love the prophecy trope. I love books with vague fortold fortunes, that don't make sense until the very end of the book. Or the metaphor or motif that runs through the whole book.
And the the metaphor and prophecy comes true in an obvious or strange way.
I agree with you on the romance. I find that romance is my guilty pleasure BUT! It has to be done right. Like you mentioned, when it's a slow burn, something complex and complicated it's awesome. But on the other hand, I HATE insta-love. Or, I also don't like when I buy like, a mystery book or fantasy book where the plot is something really awesome but it gets drowned out by the romantic drama.
I LOVE YOU VIDEOS! Saludos desde Peru ^^
Do a recommandation video on these Tropes!!
*glances over at my shadowhunters bookshelves*
Please do a boarding school YA recommended reads!! I loveee boarding school settings too!!
I love the boarding school trope particularly because I attended a boarding school.
Keeper of the Lost Cities has a few if your favourite tropes :D Magical School, Characters discovering powers
i agree with all of these except for the "chosen one" trope. in my opinion it's overdone and i personally find it more empowering to have a character who has the determination and courage to step up for a task on their own. great list, though!
Shadow and bone does the chosen on trope so well!
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Boarding school book recommendation: Her Royal Highness. Personally I love it and it’s set in Scotland which is cool
YAY NEW VIDEO!
Based on this video I have to recommend "The Burning Sky" from the elemental trilogy by Sherry Thomas. It has the chosen one, and the girl has to dress as a guy AND the boarding school "cliches". It also has a bit of a middle grade feel which I know you can appreciate. This series is right up there with my favourites and I think deserves way more love!
The only book I have ever read that has a good love triangle is The Host by Stephanie Meyer, but that triangle makes my heart sing.
The gallagher girls is set in an all girls boarding school that trains people to be spies, and I love them!!!
Ok so I LOVE the hate to love relationships. Also the poor girl dates rich boy or the other way around.
You should do a video giving recommendations of books with these tropes
I AM TRASH FOR THE BOARDING SCHOOL TROPE
Yess boarding school trope!! I think it’s because of Harry Potter and always going to schools with over 2000 students. Lol!
Disguise recommendation: Noteworthy by Riley Redgate (Not fantasy but it was really good)
YAAS I love 'the chosen one' books. no shame hahaha
You should watch the Sungkyunkwan Scandal! It's a subtitled Korean drama on Hulu that follows this girl who needs to dress as a boy to make money to care for her sick brother and she ends up going to an all male boarding school. It takes place in historical Korea so it's beautiful and hilarious and it has the complicated romance you want.
And Yoochun is an amazing actor
Definitely gonna watch that
This reminds me of to the beautiful you
yes I love boarding school settings in books
Me: oh look a love “triangle!” Such complexity!
Also me: *decides to give my protagonists a literal love triangle (not a V) a multiple people crushing on one person scenario, forbidden romance, “forced” romance, platonic friendships and mentor ships etc*
I also love books set in boarding school!
i looove the boarding school trope!! anybody have any recs? i've read "anna and the french kiss" and "the school for good and evil" and really enjoyed them! (edit: thanks for all the recs guys!!)
Alexis Nardi the vampire academy series!
i recently read and really enjoyed girlhood by cat clarke!
Looking for Alaska by john green, if you haven’t already read it. There were some aspects i definitely did not enjoy (manic pixie dream girl) but the boarding school setting is very present:)
Keeper of the lost cities. It’s not a boarding school necessarily but the school they go to feels like it
The Evernight series by Claudia Gray.
Carry On has FOUR of these!
love.that.book.
Have you ever hear of the gallagher girls series? I think it's right up your alley. It has none of the hated tropes and it's about a boarding school for gifted girls to learn how to be spies. Espionage, a clueless boyfriend whose not an asshole, there's a slight love triangle but that lasts for less than a fraction of a book and she's already made her decision by the time it rears its ugly head,
All of the main characters come from different backgrounds, there's a strong family aspect explored in many ways, there's a bit of a chosen one feel but more as them choosing to act on what they've learned. Did I mention POC characters? Because everyone's unique. There's a bit of "invisible girl" syndrome with the main character but instead of hating it, she embraces it because it makes her a better operative. It's an amazing series that gets better and better as they go. Short and written kinda foolishly at times but its language matures with the C characters so it works out.
YESSSS I LOVE BOARDING SCHOOL BOOKS
I love the boarding school trope too! Can you please give some recommendations on your favourite boarding school set novels? :)
Im soo in for Love Traingles LOLLLL HAHAHA ITS SOOO FUN YA KNOW
my favorite trope is the arranged marriage trope and I also love the hate to love trope
My favourite YA cliche will always be main character(s) that are “”bad guys”” like Six of Crows!
-I love villians turning into heros, and vice versa!
-characters breaking the fourth wall
I love/hate the cliche of the prince or perfect guy that turns out to be the villain.
Brooke Belli i would personally love to see more of the reversal of that. Where the supposed “villain” turns out to be the perfect love interest.
April Helm yessssssss!!!
April Helm A good example of this would be court of thorns and roses
Or the Grisha trilogy!
I think it’s good but it never works on me. I always see something wrong with the perfect guy so I tend to suspect something. It’s awesome but it’s just not a surprise to me.
Yes! Boarding School YA novels are my favorite. I am certain that I love this particular cliche because of Harry Potter. The chosen one type of cliche is, I feel, necessary in almost every story.
Definitely feel the same way about boarding schools! There’s just something about it...