My tribe, Pima, is one of the very few tribes that weren't forced onto a reservation. Our land, where we have been thousands of years was shitty enough that they let us stay we're we were.
The ones that were forced was the so called African Americans, that are the real Native Americans, she knows she's trying to be careful not to say it..
Were you also one of the very few tribes that didn't idiotically go to war against the US because your European trade partners did? And didn't LARP as Mongols? This tends to go hand-in-hand with not being kicked off your land.
@@midgetydeath I’m also Oodham or Pima as some people call us. We actually fought along with Americans and we were vital in European settlements in Phoenix. We offered protection from Apache’s and helped the starving settlers coming through our villages., Europeans often passed through our villages to rest and eat and be protected because Apache’s were hostile to them.We both had a common enemy back then who were the Apaches. We had a good relationship with the US government until they dries up our river in the 1870s.
As a Native Canadian, I wasn't allowed to be raised by my own mother. I and two brothers were Stolen from our mother for forced assimilation/integration. I ended up in 11 different foster homes, and was almost killed in one of them. Canada wanted to make sure that European Canadians raised us, not our own people. This changed in 1991, that was the last year children were taken simply for forced assimilation into European homes. We never did find one of our brothers. We don't know if he is living or dead. Three generations before me were also Stolen. My mother, my grandmother and my great grandmother, and of course all of their siblings. It was the Law in Canada, that we all had to be raised in special segregated schools called residential schools. Our neighbors tried to prevent their children from being taken, so they were removed at Gunpoint! My family were all taken away for five years straight, they got to go home for one summer, then were taken away for four years straight. Horrible, horrible Massive abuses took place. The Canadian Parliament debated whether to protect our children from the Rampant sexual abuse on our little ones. In the end it was decided to protect the Canadian taxpayer's Money! If you couldn't Afford to look after us, then Don't take us in the First Place! We all would have been better off with our own families, plain and simple. Our last segregated school closed in 1996. Terrible Racist protests against the poor Native Canadian children who had to cross the picket lines! A friend of mine is still traumatized to this day. The USA ends school segregation in the 1960s, Canada actually Steals kids from their Homes until the 1990s, and Canada is considered more 'progressive?' By the way, my Teenagers are the first generation in my family line to be born free. They are the first generation permitted to be raised by their very own parents! Canadians have no idea of their own brutal history against us, just 'ending' as recently as the 1990s!
This makes me so sad. I am truly ashamed that the Canadian government treated you like that. We are all human beings and deserve to be treated equally.
@@dylankopff5062 You choose to be uneducated, yet you give your opinion as if it has some value. Read a little, do some research Before spouting off. I don't care if you 'buy' it or not. Your opinion is "garbage" until it has some intellectual value behind it.
For the Navajo it was during gold rush time that Kit Carsons soldiers burnt homes, farms, massacred resistors. Then death marched remaining across NM, shooting elderly, torturing birthing mothers along the way. At Ft. Sumner a treaty was signed. Reservation is federal land held in trust, it belongs to the government. Navajos cannot own it. They can lease an acre to live on for 75 years. Some hold grazing rights and they do not allow acre portions. So thus you see families crowding one acre while theres wide open spaces beyond them. It's a corrupt system from top to bottom.
@@tboned70 Carson was not the evil man that the 1970's tried to make him out to be. He was a good, humble and illiterate man with a native wife, who fought the Confederates when they invaded New Mexico, and fought against the warring tribes while helping the peaceful tribes. He helped free the Navajo's slaves.
@@alvarnunez3215 I wouldn't say fighting the Confederacy is a virtuous act, but I will say a soldier following lawful orders is. As for things like grazing rights and what families have what, that is determined by the tribe. Ironically, that isn't actually something the government can be blamed for as it's the tribes' leadership's choice as to what to do.
It's whitey's fault. We haven't done anything with our life for generations except perpetuate poverty and alcoholism because it's whitey's fault from 200 years ago. Never mind the fact that a kid from Uganda or Myanmar or Bolivia can show up in America with absolutely nothing but the shirt on his back, get an education, work their ass off, and then become a successful business person in less than a decade. But hey, let's blame it all on whitey.
T A Again with the defeatist attitude? Is whitey stopping anybody from chasing their dreams? I’m from Chiraq. I take a lot of pride in the fact that not many from my neighborhood ever amounted to anything, but I overcame it all. Whitey didn’t stop me, whitey doesn’t stop anyone, you stop yourself.
@@ubon11 it's a distinct identity that is trying to be maintained. A culture. The issue is there is alot of history attached to that culture. Even the defeated aspect of it. But there is so much more. A language, a connection and responsibility to the land environments they live in. Stories, songs and ceremonies that are attached to the land. Science and technology that comes from living within certain environments for at least thousands of years. A responsibility to ancestors and their way of life. A value system much older than the United States and what sense of success there currently is.
@@ubon11 As far as whitey "success" is concerned, so whitey can look like the good guy. But when whitey arrived in all native continents they were all in pristine condition and teaming with life. Now I see whitey turning the world into a toilet.
I was talking with my lawyer before a hearing about tribal sovereignty when the judge asked what we were discussing I told him. His reply was completely serious "They are only sovereign until they're not".
well that is the whole doctrine of sovereignty and freedom right there... why do you think the second amendment is so important ? ... if you cant defend it you don't own it ... if you can't defend yourself you don't own yourself ... you are a slave.
More like this. More indigenous voices. Maybe you'll begin to understand the fight. You can hear the resistance in her words because the fight is still going on today. Those are the voices you should be showing people. IMO.
@@michaeltravis3562 she is onlyfighting for the natives cause she actually believes in some sick way she’s native, white ppl try to be other races all the time look at Rachel dolezal... I dare you look up tribal leaders pictures in 2020 a lot of pale pale faces pretending to be natives for the benefits and to claim culture.
@@thegoats20 you're describing conservatives and Republicans dude. They are addicted to antagonizing minorities and are confused as to why they cant get their votes lmao
What we have done to native Americans can never be undone, but we can help by donating to countless reservations who still live in the worst circumstances in our country
@Cody Waggener how is that? I believe you're taking the little bit of information you hold and making ridiculous remarks. It's very difficult to educate ppl who make sh!t up
You Wish yes. that’s exactly right. My grandfather was half mohawk indian and he always said the white men don’t owe us anything, because they werent the ones who did it. these were people hundreds of years ago. i am NOT responsible for their misdeeds, no matter how hard you try to GUILT me into it.
@@col.nugget1524 no but I'm not going to hold back when evenging my great grandfather. You have to understand. We were in reservations, my grandma could not leave without written permission from the Fed. It was and still is like jail. White ppl let us move freely our of the rez only to be met with hatred and more murder... I can go on and on. It is coming, injuns and brown ppl are wanting to keep our blood oath. I will keep your scalp in a place of remembrance
Elijah Yeah dead whites. It’s so stupid to blame us as a whole - who had nothing in common with these people other than an uncontrollable trait. People in power are always corrupt - throughout all of history. Should we blame all Germans today for Hitler? No that’s nonsense. I’m just saying be careful about blaming white people of the passed with “whites” of today. If the pot keeps boiling it will eventually spill and there’s absolutely no need for that.
He could have got a brown ndn idk and all my fam college educated so maybe he was safe lol made me laugh when he asked her blood she's white there's brown ndns
I’m Comanche. Thank you for sharing this. This is the history my great grandparents taught me. An example is the right to vote. Our race was one of the last races that earned the right to vote. And this wasn’t because the U.S. government wouldn’t let us. It’s because we were fighting not wanting to be U.S. citizens. We knew the “white” man way was not for us. We didn’t want to be assimilated.
Very well said. The Indigenous are the most beautiful, interesting & deserving of respect. Centuries of genocide, theft & abject neglect. When, finally, they do better this nation will be better. Yet, please, be kinder to your dogs. Horses. Goats. As a long time rez animal rescuer, it’s rough.
Mdewakanton here. From SMSC. Our tribe has been messed up since 1934 . feds put any Indian in minnesota wandering around into any reservation they found suitable. Fast foward today u have sisseton natives and ojiwbes claiming to be mdewakanton which they arent and there collecting money off there land and screwing over the true blood mdewakantons. Feds don't care about this everytime I call them they laugh and say tough shit. We need more people to voice to the feds that reservations need to go and the land needs to be given back to the right people.
Then why are you using the internet? Are you using electricity and plumbing? Do you microwave your food? Do you enjoy modern medicine and convenience? That is the "White Man Way'". Want to reject it? You may do that and life like it's stone knives and bearskins on your reservations. You may do that. But I sincerely doubt that you will.
@@blakesleyk.7166well if your so powerful the Saxons took and colonized all of North America. Including parts or the rest of the world We come from a cold climate that was barron. We touched and colonized just about every part of the world. Imagine a country the size of Oklahoma 50 times smaller than the United States conquering the entire world just about. We're enemies with everyone and hated by all. For a good reason.
CHICKASAW NATION!!!! its sooo good to hear people acknowledge Tribes other than The Cherokee, The Navajo & just the few usual names you hear in media,movies,tv,etc.. Much love & respect to EVERY Tribe out there but it just feels good to hear the lesser known Tribes be acknowledged.
you sound ignorant..im supposed to be ashamed that the white man considered us “civilized” cuz we had a good economy learned english and adopted a religion? those same “civilized” tribes were fucked off in the removal act and trial of tears by the same white man that coined that term. u sound ignorant nd need to do sum research before u make illogical remarks and poor attempts at disparaging someone.
She’s Euro/Native. Blake Griffin has white skin, but his dad is black as coal, yet most of you would call him black, because of his nose and hair texture. She’s bluntly said she is both Polish and Choctaw. She’s ‘mixed’ just like all the pale skin NBA players who have an African nose and curly hair. Just because she does not fit your definition of someone who should be speaking on this topic, doesn’t mean you’re right. She is Native American and European.
I don't think that only people with native blood should be able to speak about it. I'm white and critical of plenty of Indian affairs and see nothing wrong with it.
Look into what happened with the story of "the trail of tears". She is accurate, they played by the rules and still got fucked in the end. Its despicable the way nobody was willing to stand up for them. Some of my favorite people in the entire world happen to be natives. I've worked along side people from reservations in Southern Utah and Arizona for 20 years and would find that by and large they are some of the only people that I can really trust to any extent and i wouldn't hesitate for a moment to stand up for them, to any extent, should I be in a position to do such a thing.
Somebody was willing to stand up for them. He left his home and family on the frontier to go to D.C. thinking maybe he could convince "christian" men to join his cause. Sadly he could not achieve any justice for the Indians he fought for. He told Congress "you all can go to hell I'm going to Texas!" And to Texas he did bravely go where he died alongside 179 others defending the Alamo. Just because the government has done many wrongs doesn't mean everyone was complicit in the wrongdoing. Many lost life, livelihood and freedom fighting for justice. Let's not write these people off as doing so discourages future generations from rebelling against tyranny, while casting aside the sacrifices men made by doing the right thing.
Well, to be fair in that situation the government actually did attempt a peaceful, cooperative resolution in the beginning. In the end, though, the natives refused and the resources involved were needed. A repeat of the causes of countless conflicts throughout human existence.
Ok white knight 😂 settlers got tortured to death , why do you think it took 200 years before the western frontier. If it wasn't for the fall of the antebellum South most ppl would have never moved west of Missouri. During the reconstruction Era the confederate dollar was obviously worth nothing. The civil war had a negative feedback loop on the country more than ppl realize, crazy. Most of us never wanted to move , the Atlantic coast natives and colonizers went through enough blood shed and didn't won't to move west. Because they already knew the outcome I think that's also why the bands of comanche took to such extreme violence. We all knew the consequences , but there wasn't much choice. Even at the very beginning of the frontier it was do or die . We cut our ties with our nation of Brittain there was no going back home. For us Saxons , we couldn't go home and we couldn't live with the natives. So what option was there death was the anwser or exile the natives or both.
When Indigenous peoples tried to follow imposed US laws, assimilate and did reasonably well they experienced brutal forced relocation and genocide...if they resisted and fought back, same thing...
What are you talking about. I keep hearing how noble the Indians are. They get millions from the casinos they own, where is the money going? Oh, that's right. The Leaders of the tribes oppress their own people and don't help them the way they are suppose to. Why is that? Oh yeah, that's right. There are just humans as well.
@@hollywoodgold8076 You're not wrong.. They still embezzle there own pottery that's being sold at the same time the casinos are going nowhere but ripping Navajos to Utes to Shoshone etc. They're not helpingo our people in any way. They're getting greedy as well. Like you said. Still Humans.
@@dinedraven7151 Let me ask you a few questions. As an American Indian, do you think they should keep reservations the way that are, or sell the land, divide the money up among all the people on each reservation. Or give each person the option to sell their share of the land, or keep it, but they would own that parcel of land. OR, what do you think would be even better? I'm asking this because I think it would be better for our American Indians to assimilation into the mainstream American culture more. I think far less American Indians would suffer, and far more would succeed. What do you think?
You should interview Nocana Burgess. He's the great or great-great grandson of Quannah Parker. We met him this past summer. He is an amazing artist! He told me his dad told him that it was amazing that Quannah was still taking care of his family (through the artwork). He's a really nice, down to earth guy.
As a Proud Scot! I send my love to all the beautiful Native American people who were seen as Savage as we were!! Our language, our dress , our tradition was stripped from us! Anyone using Scot’s Gaelic was hung. So many people oppressed all over the world! I may be “ European “ but I’m Scottish by generations of proud women and men that refused to give up their culture. My love and respect goes to all Native people !
I love that this is a topic of conversation and education. I am far too ignorant about the history of indigenous Americans. It was nice to listen to some of the history, as brief as it was.
I'm a 66 year old white man, a Baha'i for 35 years. I consider all Indigenous People my Brothers and Sisters and send Prayers for health and well being.
I'm from Bristol Bay Alaska and a Curyung Tribal Counsel member. We were fortunate to retain our lands for the most part. And we also were very fortunate to have access to our ancestral fishing and hunting grounds. However we do have high levels of poverty and alcohol related issues.
Your tribe and fortunate do not belong in the same sentence. I can’t begging to Imagine how embarrassing it is to have your ancestors be the goofy ones who didn’t follow the rest of the pack south out of the snow.
Thats exactly the socialist equality of outcome approach mentioned by Jordan Peterson. India is sickly socialist. All politicians want all these reservations, increased taxation on rich people, free water, free electricity, lesser fee to the so called “lower” castes. That thing is disgraceful and that is also creating laziness and an unambitious newer Indian generation who gets all tools for survival free and hence they never want to grow rich. That is disgraceful.
@@chinmaypurohit3431 . It was free before all got here..no one came along and asked for payments to have water ..only when squatters came and built fences
A Pawnee here from Oklahoma to all of us natives we need unity and come to gather our sacred lands be as one people so we can teach how to take care of this continent and reserved our people for the next hundred thousand years
Russel means talked alot about how the government messed up putting the wrong indians at the wrong places they didn't belong to. I wish he were alive too so our feds could hear how bad they fucked up and how this is still an ongoing issue with the wrong indian living at the wrong tribe
Ah yes, I remember the first reservation well... it started with the Apaches making a reservation for 16 at the Outback Steakhouse back in 1994. It was a Friday at 7pm which seemed an impossible feat, but they did it! A truly great moment in native American history!
@@billyellisjr.6016 I found the full episode. I guess all the episodes are on spotify now. Sucks because alot of people still watch the youtube episodes
It’s all there in the historical records. The continued barbaric invasions upon their magnificent cultures & incredibly productive people. Centuries of Atrocities. Land theft. Enslavement. Genocides. The N. American & Central American Indigenous are ignored despite this nation having been built upon Their Land. Their Backs. We must do better!
@@Luca-nu2zg After whatever riches they possessed were stolen, their historical lands stolen they were continually subjected to torture. Killed. It’s these native Am. who were enslaved to begin the settlement of this nation. Who do you think built the early missions? That is The Original Sin of this country!
Fun fact that a lot of people don't know...Joe was 100% correct about it happening around the gold rush time. America's 1st gold rush actually happened in a tiny town called Dahlonega in Northeast Georgia in 1829. Anyone else see that direct correlation now?
Is saying a tribe needs to be civilized the same as calling them inferior or is it saying they need to be a civilization with an actual government representing the people?
Bold of you to assume Native tribes weren't governing themselves. Or does it not count as governing if it's something different than the European/Christian/caucasian way? Sit the fuck down and let the grown ups talk.
I love how people think of Cher from the 70's as an Indian when she has 0 Indian blood, just cultural appropriated Cherokee culture by a song with an outfit. And speaking of the 70's, if you are old enough to remember the commercial with the crying Indian looking at trash - he was an Italian actor.
I'm actually writing an essay on Justice John Marshall where i cite 8 cases of his for a graduate level course, 2 of the cases which she briefed. This was absolutely random to appear at this time for me. Lol great talk, great lady. Good info. Who would've thought, Joe Rogan and a legit american legal history lecture. Haha. Love this podcast
Trapper/ Indigenous ancestral transplant here. I would really love to invoke hunting rights and things like that but I don't have a tribe, and it's so hard to trace it back when they cover it up
true, saw that movie and it was terrible. Glad that at least canada tries to make up for the shit the government and the british and french did to the natives of the north
I was once lucky enough to be hosted by a Navajo family near Gallup NewMexico. Genuinely one of the greatest experiences of my life and the whole family was so proud to tell me the history of the Code Talkers. The US needs more Native History taught.
One thing she doesnt mention thats important is that 1934 base rolls screwed everything up so the feds put the wrong indians into the wrong tribe and never bothered fixing it . and its still 2021 and the matter doesn't get fixed cause now all the feds see is a casino and money
Any talking about the plague blankets? Distributed by the armed forces at Forts across America. My Great grandmother caught TB she left behind 5 children at the age of 30. Cherokee county, Oklahoma by the way is were im from. 🕊️
Native people taught the colonist how to fight Indian style and helped them defeat the British to win their independence and then turned against Natives by claimed they were inferior. The lived here for thousands of years but yet they claim they are incapable of managing their own affairs.
Why am i not able to find this full podcast? I have sent numerous emails to joe and his people about getting someone on here who actually know what they are talking about with natives and can only find bits and pieces of this. Joe goin to school today
What a great conversation with this eloquent guest. I have a life-long infatuation with the native people or indigenous nations. I have never believed that the USA was the "land of the free", after freedom was conquered and stopped to be.
The California gold rus was 1848 to 1855 there was also a Georgia gold rush "The Georgia Gold Rush was the second significant gold rush in the United States and the first in Georgia, and overshadowed the previous rush in North Carolina. It started in 1829 in present-day Lumpkin County near the county seat, Dahlonega, and soon spread through the North Georgia mountains, following the Georgia Gold Belt. By the early 1840s, gold became difficult to find. Many Georgia miners moved west when gold was found in the Sierra Nevada in 1848, starting the California Gold Rush. "
Joey if you or jamie r reading this. The indian res is s great topic. Marzulli interviews peep living on these resv and the stories r crazy. Ex. Centerions half upper torso man lower body horse grazing in backyards at night on the resv Crazy s.... Stay on this topic it will trip u out on what u will learn. Resv is land blessed spirutually by local indian gurus doctors spirit guides etc . you will see crazy things if you camp out on a reservation take eddie and it will be a trip. Lights out camp no fire in tent and watch the orbs surround you bro. Take my word take my word
It's crazy that Indians made such a huge impact on the United States. I wonder why naan is not more popular? And the US is a mostly steak based diet and Indians are mostly Hindu which forbids harming cows in any way. I wonder how Indians felt about that..? Oh well, all I know is that Indians are an amazing group of people and Punjabi women are some of the most beautiful in the world.
.........seriously? the term "indians" for native americans is because the first europeans mistakenly thought N.America was India. It is term of reference now to what everyone SHOULD know are the native tribes of North and South America. not the actual people from the country India.... jesus man, read a book.
@@eshep2943 If anything they are related to the indians; Indo European Aryans were from North India. Haplogroup Q ; the first Americans were Eurasian , so they were Mongoloid mixed with Uralic peoples . The ones in central america do appear to have been related to Southern Indians like Tegulu or the Malaysians.
@@chibiromano5631 native americans have lived for so long on the north and south continents that whomever their ancestors come from is not the issue of debate, especially because if we use your argument then we can also say that indians are related to africans, since humanity came from that continent. The way he used the title "indian" is debatable though, because it was a mistake made in ignorance(no fault of the early explorers) Which is why i found the guys comment to be mind blowing in how he thought it actually meant india the country. though in the guys defense, if he was not taught any canadian or american history, then he is excused.
@@eshep2943 yeah and they still call mexicans hispanics and latinos. Hispanic -somebody from iberia, latino -somebody from Latino Rome in Italy. Indian-somebody from hindus river region. The term indian actually existed before the country was founded. Back in 1500s the place was called Bharat but by explorers it was known as hindustan , Malaysia and Indonesia were also classified in this. So they would have thought the Americans of the central region looked Malaysian but still refered to them as indians. ps. huamnity didn't come from sub africa. some of the earliest humans were found in somalia which is eratrian and is way different from congo. But at least for the mogoloid and uralic people inlcuding the native americans, they stem from another human being that originated from China. The earliest Finnish DNA can be traced to the LIan river. There are 3-5 species of man
@@chibiromano5631 3 to 5 species of man ? You've failed in life. All of humanity doesn't have enough distance between eachother to call themselves seperate species. Theres different populations of humans, but based on haplogroup ages and migrations, it plainly shows were all related to one another. Were one species along a spectrum.
@JRE I am enrolled into the Kickapoo tribe in Kansas, I am also part Potawatomi(our neighbor/brother tribe) very closely related woodland tribes. I am also a descendant of quannah Parker. My last time would have been Parker if my father had not been adopted by the Kickapoo tribe when he was a boy. I understand my roots and where I come from. I am very much active in participating in our ceremonies, and speak all 3 languages of those tribes. Yes I hunt my game cause that’s one thing i was taught since a boy, and how to farm my own crops. I’m well aware of herbal medicines we used, and some of us do to this day. I wouldn’t go around saying I’m Native American tho, I would introduce myself as my traditional name. Shipshewano, tail of an under water panther. I don’t like using my government name whatsoever, I do represent all 3 of my tribes cause I am a proud descendant of my 3 tribes. I’ve grown up on the reservation till about 12, went to riverside Indian school, a boarding school. It’s not what boarding school used to be, all faculty are members of federally recognized tribes. This school is in Anadarko Oklahoma, they taught us our real history of numerous tribes. Great school, I’ve met and have many friends with other tribes all over the us. I currently go to college at Haskell Indian nations university, where I am furthering my education. Hopefully one day to fix the corruption of my tribe that I am enrolled in. It’s one of the reasons we’re still in poverty, we don’t have people who are qualified to govern our sovereign nations. Going to college we have a course on tribal governance, and I encourage all the young natives of of whatever tribe to get educated. It is the key, not only to live in the society we’ve been assimilated into, but to fix corruption and better our leadership. Yeah I can talk about broken treaties and how the government fucked us. I am a firm believer that if all the native tribes unite together. We can get the recourses we truly need. For the most part we’re on the way there, but recognition is needed as well. I was at work one day, and my boss is kinda naive. Asking if we pay taxes, yes we do. If we still live in tipis/hogons/huts. No we don’t but we still use those and have them. I guess you can say the world kinda forgot about us, even tho our population isn’t what it was. We’re still here and very much resilient no matter what the world throws at us. Currently they are trying to get the icwa(American Indian welfare act) thrown out. What that act does is keeps native children in natives communities, so that we don’t forget who we are and where we come from. It also protects our lands from being governed by the government of the United States. My father was our chairman for my enrolled tribe. He taught me a lot of tribal politics, as well as our history and rights.
I understand what this lady is fighting for but it's naive of her to think that this land "belongs to the native Americans", they are not even native to this land infact a study of anthropology would destroy any race, ethnicity etc. claim to any land. We are all human beings at the end of the day.
My husband is black and part Choctaw. My own family is part Cherokee. Its so wrong how the indigenous people are restricted and labeled according to American government. America is a strange country
My grandpa, a fur trapper, hunter and local guide in montana (who adopted my mom and all her siblings) raised us alongside a 20 something odd group of Native Americans who had nowhere else to go. We had all become a very beautiful family and i remember we'd all play cowboys and indians together, specifically divvying ourselves up by race. We had a lot of fun and I miss them a lot. They always prefered to be called American Indians instead of Natives. I never saw them again after the old man passed roughly a decade ago. :-/
When I was a kid it was the same way, they decided who was a cowboy and who was an Indian based on hair and eyes and skin tone too. In hindsight it hurt my feelings them picking for me because I wanted to be the good guy not the bad guy like all the movies I saw. I was the cowboy at home but the Indian at school.
Hey Joe and friends!! Consider this an invitation to come up to my First Nation/ Indian Reservation up in North Central Alberta. It's called Sucker Creek. It's a paradise untouched for ever
Mdewakanton here. From SMSC. Our tribe has been messed up since 1934 . feds put any Indian in minnesota wandering around into any reservation they found suitable. Fast foward today u have sisseton natives and ojiwbes claiming to be mdewakanton which they arent and there collecting money off there land and screwing over the true blood mdewakantons. Feds don't care about this everytime I call them they laugh and say tough shit. We need more people to voice to the feds that reservations need to go and the land needs to be given back to the right people.
it is understandable that healthy discrimination i.e. Reservation should be part of the Indian Constitution for the welfare of the underprivileged. But what part or percentage of the underprivileged actually reap the benefits of such Reservations ? What percentage of the underprivileged get to the point of sitting in the nation-wide, state-wide or institution-wide Exams / Employment to actually uplift their statuses ? Indian Constitution, Article 15 should be amended again where we add the clause of "family income" to be presented at the time of eligibility for the Reservation, so that the benefits could actually reach to our underprivileged citizens therefore getting them out of poverty and help deal with the "status' Dogma. It will also help us tackle the ever growing issues like Brain Drain.
That’s the thing tho, “the new way” is really just the old way, but only for White people. White people have been living the same way for centuries, it’s everyone else who has to live in the shadow of their umbrella. WE have to adapt and call the old white way, the new way for us.
A lot of trigger, butt hurt, people in the comment section whenever Joe discusses Native American topics. Proud of my Cree/ Blackfoot/ Saulteaux blood 🩸 Watch: here comes the haters lol
@First Last nope. I'm just American. I get what your saying tho. I feel like native American refers to the tribes that were native to the land before Europe conquered.
@First Last yeah Indians are from India and native Americans are the native ppl to America Im not lucky enough to really know all of my ancestry so I'm just American
Joe: He was the last comanche chief. Shannon: You know they still live today (meaning they still have chiefs). Joe: Yes, they do.....they were wiped out! I guess the erasure continues. Sad.
He wasn't aware of the implications of what he said. I think he was just referring to how the traditional lifestyle of the comanche was "wiped out" because of the settlers.
" Their way of life was removed, they were wiped out. " It's a cultural reference. He then goes onto mention how he is currently in contact with them so obviously he not reffering to them as a whole people, as he says " their way of life " which is drastically different now. No more counting coup ;)
Yeah she is, but she did say that this is pretty huge for her to invited and she's nervous. It's like watching someone present something for the first time in front of a group of people 😂
I'm hopi. Were one of the few people to resist the government and the Spanish conquistadors. We were subjected to about four hundred years of brutal persecution by the Spanish.
A girl I’m currently talking to is a Navajo and is from a reservation.. she’s told me some interesting things! So I just recently found out about the nations inside the nations
Hollywood Gold just in general I never knew that they had their own president, princes and princesses.. They make you get married at 16.. so she left. Some more stuff on the darker side.. but I don’t feel safe talking about it for some reason.
That is not exactly what the doctrine of discovery is, it was an international law that nations could claim uninhabited/undeveloped land for any reason they wanted. But in the case she is speaking of, they considered indian land uninhabited because the indians were not civilized christians, therefore could not be entitled to fee simple ownership, only right to occupy; later they called this a "usufruct title".
I love and have the upmost respect for native Americans and Native American history. It makes me sick what the white Europeans did to the Native people. I wish they could've found peace and shared the land somehow.
@@zenithskull after taking Native American land and calling it a discovery, killing the people and after all that trying to gain there trust and betraying them again and again and again.
@@mattsimmons3580 Share the world, peace for all. Nobody has any hunger or desire! A place where everyone is happy all the time and carnivores just stop feeding right? Yeah peace and love. It's so nice and warm and fuzzy! OK. The truth is: the winner decides. If native americans were as developed as the invaders they would have slain us remorselessly. The world is not built on peace. Not now, not ever. Grow up! If you want to get ahead, perform the best of those surrounding you. You do not have to be perfect, just better than the rest. Maybe more efficient or meaner or more scary or technologically superior or more sneaky! The winner takes all. It's rough! It's life! Welcome to earth.
I would like to warn all of the people who identified themselves as a member of the group who were being preserved. Yes, the situation in America is cruel and unusual. The suffering is real and undeniable. However, I would like to ask for sympathy for not just your identified ancestors and yourself but also people with the same fate. American handling of their past is not fantastic. However, it is relatively soft compare to things like sending soldiers in people’s land, make them inter-marry local people so the children would follow their father’s culture and speak their father’s language. Please, criticise the U.S., but don’t ever forget how much exception America is. Fight injustice but always appreciate what you have.
This lady doesn't actually seem like she grew up in the actual native culture. She just seems like a historian from a settler perspective or something.
Thank you. Excellent podcast!💡 There was a gold rush in Georgia in the early 1800's. Heck, my understanding is the Blue Ridge park way was following a gold vein in the early 1930's.
Don’t try and correct or talk over us Native Americans..... Joe, you read a book about us by a white man and you think you can try to talk over this well spoken Native American woman. Let our Native sister speak.
my mother who is First Nation, my mother and brother and sisters all ran away together and lived on their own since they did not want to be raised by europeans and forced into those terrible Catholic schools. im proud how my mother uncles and aunts suvived by themselves on the run from the government.
My tribe, Pima, is one of the very few tribes that weren't forced onto a reservation. Our land, where we have been thousands of years was shitty enough that they let us stay we're we were.
The ones that were forced was the so called African Americans, that are the real Native Americans, she knows she's trying to be careful not to say it..
Were you also one of the very few tribes that didn't idiotically go to war against the US because your European trade partners did? And didn't LARP as Mongols? This tends to go hand-in-hand with not being kicked off your land.
@@midgetydeath what?
@@midgetydeath don't speak as if you were there, you complete douche-zilch. Quiet.
@@midgetydeath I’m also Oodham or Pima as some people call us. We actually fought along with Americans and we were vital in European settlements in Phoenix. We offered protection from Apache’s and helped the starving settlers coming through our villages., Europeans often passed through our villages to rest and eat and be protected because Apache’s were hostile to them.We both had a common enemy back then who were the Apaches. We had a good relationship with the US government until they dries up our river in the 1870s.
Shout out to all the native Americans out there.
@God King Vegeta Not a joke. My brother in law is a Lakota.
Kuei (Hi) in my native tongue. Innu Nation from Canada.
Hiya hiya 👋
Woahwowowowoeowoowowow
(Aggressively slapping my mouth to make the Indian noise like Kramer in the back of that taxi)
A'ho 👋🏽👋🏽
As a Native Canadian, I wasn't allowed to be raised by my own mother. I and two brothers were Stolen from our mother for forced assimilation/integration. I ended up in 11 different foster homes, and was almost killed in one of them. Canada wanted to make sure that European Canadians raised us, not our own people. This changed in 1991, that was the last year children were taken simply for forced assimilation into European homes. We never did find one of our brothers. We don't know if he is living or dead.
Three generations before me were also Stolen. My mother, my grandmother and my great grandmother, and of course all of their siblings. It was the Law in Canada, that we all had to be raised in special segregated schools called residential schools. Our neighbors tried to prevent their children from being taken, so they were removed at Gunpoint! My family were all taken away for five years straight, they got to go home for one summer, then were taken away for four years straight. Horrible, horrible Massive abuses took place. The Canadian Parliament debated whether to protect our children from the Rampant sexual abuse on our little ones. In the end it was decided to protect the Canadian taxpayer's Money! If you couldn't Afford to look after us, then Don't take us in the First Place! We all would have been better off with our own families, plain and simple.
Our last segregated school closed in 1996. Terrible Racist protests against the poor Native Canadian children who had to cross the picket lines! A friend of mine is still traumatized to this day.
The USA ends school segregation in the 1960s, Canada actually Steals kids from their Homes until the 1990s, and Canada is considered more 'progressive?'
By the way, my Teenagers are the first generation in my family line to be born free. They are the first generation permitted to be raised by their very own parents! Canadians have no idea of their own brutal history against us, just 'ending' as recently as the 1990s!
This makes me so sad. I am truly ashamed that the Canadian government treated you like that. We are all human beings and deserve to be treated equally.
As you see it the Hopi reservation is a nation within a nation within a nation
@@therese1156 not just governments, the main culprits are the evil catholic cult. Pedophile clubs are these churches.
Garbage..coming from a place with too many hangups to mention.not buying it and I'm not with you
@@dylankopff5062 You choose to be uneducated, yet you give your opinion as if it has some value. Read a little, do some research Before spouting off. I don't care if you 'buy' it or not. Your opinion is "garbage" until it has some intellectual value behind it.
For the Navajo it was during gold rush time that Kit Carsons soldiers burnt homes, farms, massacred resistors. Then death marched remaining across NM, shooting elderly, torturing birthing mothers along the way. At Ft. Sumner a treaty was signed. Reservation is federal land held in trust, it belongs to the government. Navajos cannot own it. They can lease an acre to live on for 75 years. Some hold grazing rights and they do not allow acre portions. So thus you see families crowding one acre while theres wide open spaces beyond them. It's a corrupt system from top to bottom.
In Arizona we have a Grade School named after Kit Carson,........a Child Killer, go figure,....!
@@tboned70 Carson was not the evil man that the 1970's tried to make him out to be. He was a good, humble and illiterate man with a native wife, who fought the Confederates when they invaded New Mexico, and fought against the warring tribes while helping the peaceful tribes. He helped free the Navajo's slaves.
They tortured women giving Birth? Horrible!
@@alvarnunez3215 Carson devised the reservation system to protect the Indians from assimilation.
@@alvarnunez3215 I wouldn't say fighting the Confederacy is a virtuous act, but I will say a soldier following lawful orders is. As for things like grazing rights and what families have what, that is determined by the tribe. Ironically, that isn't actually something the government can be blamed for as it's the tribes' leadership's choice as to what to do.
Reservations = Here hold this... until we need it.
MLiggins sad. But true
It's whitey's fault. We haven't done anything with our life for generations except perpetuate poverty and alcoholism because it's whitey's fault from 200 years ago. Never mind the fact that a kid from Uganda or Myanmar or Bolivia can show up in America with absolutely nothing but the shirt on his back, get an education, work their ass off, and then become a successful business person in less than a decade. But hey, let's blame it all on whitey.
T A Again with the defeatist attitude? Is whitey stopping anybody from chasing their dreams? I’m from Chiraq. I take a lot of pride in the fact that not many from my neighborhood ever amounted to anything, but I overcame it all. Whitey didn’t stop me, whitey doesn’t stop anyone, you stop yourself.
@@ubon11 it's a distinct identity that is trying to be maintained. A culture. The issue is there is alot of history attached to that culture. Even the defeated aspect of it. But there is so much more. A language, a connection and responsibility to the land environments they live in. Stories, songs and ceremonies that are attached to the land. Science and technology that comes from living within certain environments for at least thousands of years. A responsibility to ancestors and their way of life. A value system much older than the United States and what sense of success there currently is.
@@ubon11 As far as whitey "success" is concerned, so whitey can look like the good guy. But when whitey arrived in all native continents they were all in pristine condition and teaming with life. Now I see whitey turning the world into a toilet.
Bring her back please. I feel like I learned so much
Me too
Please don’t she was insufferable get a real native on
I was talking with my lawyer before a hearing about tribal sovereignty when the judge asked what we were discussing I told him. His reply was completely serious "They are only sovereign until they're not".
well that is the whole doctrine of sovereignty and freedom right there... why do you think the second amendment is so important ? ... if you cant defend it you don't own it ... if you can't defend yourself you don't own yourself ... you are a slave.
Mike B. Pyro well that is pretty ominous. Whatever you were in court for I would have ask my lawyer to get my case moved to another judge.
www.casemine.com/judgement/us/59149b13add7b0493462f360?target=amp_impara
Is that funny to you? Did you laugh?
Fuck that guy.
More like this. More indigenous voices. Maybe you'll begin to understand the fight. You can hear the resistance in her words because the fight is still going on today. Those are the voices you should be showing people. IMO.
More like this I agree
She’s not native tf she is a $5 Indian. Look it up
@@kelthawizgod4776 and yet- fighting for native. Impressive and admirable, I’d say. Who else is?
@@michaeltravis3562 she is onlyfighting for the natives cause she actually believes in some sick way she’s native, white ppl try to be other races all the time look at Rachel dolezal... I dare you look up tribal leaders pictures in 2020 a lot of pale pale faces pretending to be natives for the benefits and to claim culture.
its genocide by assimilation
You can feel her emotions taking over in the last 1/4 of this video.
Liberals and democrats care more about black people than native Americans
@@olivewemyss3840 they don’t care for the people, they care for their votes.
@@thegoats20 you're describing conservatives and Republicans dude. They are addicted to antagonizing minorities and are confused as to why they cant get their votes lmao
@@BobPantsSpongeSquare97 I’m a conservative/ Republican and a minority lol
@@thegoats20 congrats and I'm a liberal here to learn more about this issue. You ain't special.
What we have done to native Americans can never be undone, but we can help by donating to countless reservations who still live in the worst circumstances in our country
@Cody Waggener how is that? I believe you're taking the little bit of information you hold and making ridiculous remarks. It's very difficult to educate ppl who make sh!t up
You Wish yes. that’s exactly right. My grandfather was half mohawk indian and he always said the white men don’t owe us anything, because they werent the ones who did it. these were people hundreds of years ago. i am NOT responsible for their misdeeds, no matter how hard you try to GUILT me into it.
@@col.nugget1524 no but I'm not going to hold back when evenging my great grandfather. You have to understand. We were in reservations, my grandma could not leave without written permission from the Fed. It was and still is like jail. White ppl let us move freely our of the rez only to be met with hatred and more murder... I can go on and on. It is coming, injuns and brown ppl are wanting to keep our blood oath.
I will keep your scalp in a place of remembrance
Elijah Yeah dead whites. It’s so stupid to blame us as a whole - who had nothing in common with these people other than an uncontrollable trait. People in power are always corrupt - throughout all of history. Should we blame all Germans today for Hitler? No that’s nonsense. I’m just saying be careful about blaming white people of the passed with “whites” of today. If the pot keeps boiling it will eventually spill and there’s absolutely no need for that.
@Elijah
How about the Native Americans that owned black slaves, like the Cherokees?
Your hypothesis kind of falls apart there, bud.
Joe has some of the most amazing guests! So informative!
He could have got a brown ndn idk and all my fam college educated so maybe he was safe lol made me laugh when he asked her blood she's white there's brown ndns
I’m Comanche. Thank you for sharing this. This is the history my great grandparents taught me. An example is the right to vote. Our race was one of the last races that earned the right to vote. And this wasn’t because the U.S. government wouldn’t let us. It’s because we were fighting not wanting to be U.S. citizens. We knew the “white” man way was not for us. We didn’t want to be assimilated.
Very well said. The Indigenous are the most beautiful, interesting & deserving of respect. Centuries of genocide, theft & abject neglect. When, finally, they do better this nation will be better. Yet, please, be kinder to your dogs. Horses. Goats. As a long time rez animal rescuer, it’s rough.
Mdewakanton here. From SMSC.
Our tribe has been messed up since 1934 . feds put any Indian in minnesota wandering around into any reservation they found suitable. Fast foward today u have sisseton natives and ojiwbes claiming to be mdewakanton which they arent and there collecting money off there land and screwing over the true blood mdewakantons. Feds don't care about this everytime I call them they laugh and say tough shit. We need more people to voice to the feds that reservations need to go and the land needs to be given back to the right people.
well said me and 17 sister study our own people !best weapon we have is the og indian cards 1850s
Then why are you using the internet? Are you using electricity and plumbing? Do you microwave your food? Do you enjoy modern medicine and convenience? That is the "White Man Way'". Want to reject it? You may do that and life like it's stone knives and bearskins on your reservations. You may do that. But I sincerely doubt that you will.
@@blakesleyk.7166well if your so powerful the Saxons took and colonized all of North America. Including parts or the rest of the world
We come from a cold climate that was barron. We touched and colonized just about every part of the world. Imagine a country the size of Oklahoma 50 times smaller than the United States conquering the entire world just about. We're enemies with everyone and hated by all. For a good reason.
CHICKASAW NATION!!!! its sooo good to hear people acknowledge Tribes other than The Cherokee, The Navajo & just the few usual names you hear in media,movies,tv,etc.. Much love & respect to EVERY Tribe out there but it just feels good to hear the lesser known Tribes be acknowledged.
Civilized tribes in the house
@@awesomebillfromdawsonville9633 u sound ignorant af
you sound ignorant..im supposed to be ashamed that the white man considered us “civilized” cuz we had a good economy learned english and adopted a religion? those same “civilized” tribes were fucked off in the removal act and trial of tears by the same white man that coined that term. u sound ignorant nd need to do sum research before u make illogical remarks and poor attempts at disparaging someone.
@@cuddyluciano calm the f down. I dont need to do research. I'll just look in the mirror or talk to my doda about stuff.im fucking cherokee
@@cuddyluciano you certainly aren't very civilized my bad you sound like an apple...red on the outside ....you should know the rest...loljk
I'm mostly interested in certain reservations in Utah. Skinwalker ranch anyone?
Yes sir!
SkinFlute Ranch anyone?
Woah woah woah! It must not be named!
OMG IS SHE AN ALIEN ?
@@rv7131 😂😂
She’s Euro/Native. Blake Griffin has white skin, but his dad is black as coal, yet most of you would call him black, because of his nose and hair texture. She’s bluntly said she is both Polish and Choctaw. She’s ‘mixed’ just like all the pale skin NBA players who have an African nose and curly hair. Just because she does not fit your definition of someone who should be speaking on this topic, doesn’t mean you’re right. She is Native American and European.
His nose doesn’t scream black, lol. I say that as a black person.
I don't think that only people with native blood should be able to speak about it. I'm white and critical of plenty of Indian affairs and see nothing wrong with it.
@@EricaL2024honestly Erica you don’t scream black that much either😂😂
Look into what happened with the story of "the trail of tears". She is accurate, they played by the rules and still got fucked in the end. Its despicable the way nobody was willing to stand up for them. Some of my favorite people in the entire world happen to be natives. I've worked along side people from reservations in Southern Utah and Arizona for 20 years and would find that by and large they are some of the only people that I can really trust to any extent and i wouldn't hesitate for a moment to stand up for them, to any extent, should I be in a position to do such a thing.
Somebody was willing to stand up for them. He left his home and family on the frontier to go to D.C. thinking maybe he could convince "christian" men to join his cause. Sadly he could not achieve any justice for the Indians he fought for. He told Congress "you all can go to hell I'm going to Texas!" And to Texas he did bravely go where he died alongside 179 others defending the Alamo. Just because the government has done many wrongs doesn't mean everyone was complicit in the wrongdoing. Many lost life, livelihood and freedom fighting for justice. Let's not write these people off as doing so discourages future generations from rebelling against tyranny, while casting aside the sacrifices men made by doing the right thing.
Well, to be fair in that situation the government actually did attempt a peaceful, cooperative resolution in the beginning. In the end, though, the natives refused and the resources involved were needed. A repeat of the causes of countless conflicts throughout human existence.
Ok white knight 😂 settlers got tortured to death , why do you think it took 200 years before the western frontier. If it wasn't for the fall of the antebellum South most ppl would have never moved west of Missouri. During the reconstruction Era the confederate dollar was obviously worth nothing. The civil war had a negative feedback loop on the country more than ppl realize, crazy. Most of us never wanted to move , the Atlantic coast natives and colonizers went through enough blood shed and didn't won't to move west. Because they already knew the outcome I think that's also why the bands of comanche took to such extreme violence. We all knew the consequences , but there wasn't much choice. Even at the very beginning of the frontier it was do or die . We cut our ties with our nation of Brittain there was no going back home. For us Saxons , we couldn't go home and we couldn't live with the natives. So what option was there death was the anwser or exile the natives or both.
shes v sincere +passionate abt her principles
Yes I agree, when she admits to being a bit nervous. Shows quality of character, so does the cause she’s chosen to fight for.
When Indigenous peoples tried to follow imposed US laws, assimilate and did reasonably well they experienced brutal forced relocation and genocide...if they resisted and fought back, same thing...
Diving through Arizona and New Mexico you see all these run down trailer homes in the deserts. A lot of those belong to Indians
What are you talking about. I keep hearing how noble the Indians are. They get millions from the casinos they own, where is the money going? Oh, that's right. The Leaders of the tribes oppress their own people and don't help them the way they are suppose to. Why is that? Oh yeah, that's right. There are just humans as well.
@@hollywoodgold8076 You're not wrong.. They still embezzle there own pottery that's being sold at the same time the casinos are going nowhere but ripping Navajos to Utes to Shoshone etc.
They're not helpingo our people in any way. They're getting greedy as well. Like you said. Still Humans.
@@dinedraven7151 Let me ask you a few questions. As an American Indian, do you think they should keep reservations the way that are, or sell the land, divide the money up among all the people on each reservation.
Or give each person the option to sell their share of the land, or keep it, but they would own that parcel of land. OR, what do you think would be even better?
I'm asking this because I think it would be better for our American Indians to assimilation into the mainstream American culture more. I think far less American Indians would suffer, and far more would succeed. What do you think?
@@hollywoodgold8076 I think y'all should start scalping motherfuckers and take your country back
Hollywood Gold I think you probably voted for Trump, and that says enough
You should interview Nocana Burgess. He's the great or great-great grandson of Quannah Parker. We met him this past summer. He is an amazing artist! He told me his dad told him that it was amazing that Quannah was still taking care of his family (through the artwork). He's a really nice, down to earth guy.
As a Proud Scot! I send my love to all the beautiful Native American people who were seen as Savage as we were!! Our language, our dress , our tradition was stripped from us! Anyone using Scot’s Gaelic was hung. So many people oppressed all over the world! I may be “ European “ but I’m Scottish by generations of proud women and men that refused to give up their culture. My love and respect goes to all Native people !
We have more similarities than many people realize. Slavery and subjugation is as old as time, and every single race has suffered it
I love that this is a topic of conversation and education. I am far too ignorant about the history of indigenous Americans. It was nice to listen to some of the history, as brief as it was.
Respect
I'm a 66 year old white man, a Baha'i for 35 years. I consider all Indigenous People my Brothers and Sisters and send Prayers for health and well being.
What does Baha'i mean
I'm from Bristol Bay Alaska and a Curyung Tribal Counsel member. We were fortunate to retain our lands for the most part. And we also were very fortunate to have access to our ancestral fishing and hunting grounds. However we do have high levels of poverty and alcohol related issues.
Your tribe and fortunate do not belong in the same sentence. I can’t begging to Imagine how embarrassing it is to have your ancestors be the goofy ones who didn’t follow the rest of the pack south out of the snow.
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For a sec I thought we're talkinng bout "India's caste system and reservation system"
Same
Thats exactly the socialist equality of outcome approach mentioned by Jordan Peterson. India is sickly socialist. All politicians want all these reservations, increased taxation on rich people, free water, free electricity, lesser fee to the so called “lower” castes. That thing is disgraceful and that is also creating laziness and an unambitious newer Indian generation who gets all tools for survival free and hence they never want to grow rich.
That is disgraceful.
@@chinmaypurohit3431 . It was free before all got here..no one came along and asked for payments to have water ..only when squatters came and built fences
Lol, me too...
F*** Columbus for confusing us🤣
A Pawnee here from Oklahoma to all of us natives we need unity and come to gather our sacred lands be as one people so we can teach how to take care of this continent and reserved our people for the next hundred thousand years
We could do mostly anything here in the Navajo nation 😂 btw the thumbnail is close to where I live. That small place is my hometown called Many Farms.
Im from many farms 2 din'e
How many guns you got ?
Watching this baked on the Rez
Haa so am I
Bruh I'm sitting here eating noodles
Bro frs smoking a blunt and came upon this comment haha
Lol same
My people, stay high
If Russell Means were still alive, i would of love to hear him on Rogan
Russel means talked alot about how the government messed up putting the wrong indians at the wrong places they didn't belong to. I wish he were alive too so our feds could hear how bad they fucked up and how this is still an ongoing issue with the wrong indian living at the wrong tribe
Same here
Feeling the same…
Learning anything about the USA and how they treated none whites is extremely hard and saddening.
Ah yes, I remember the first reservation well... it started with the Apaches making a reservation for 16 at the Outback Steakhouse back in 1994. It was a Friday at 7pm which seemed an impossible feat, but they did it! A truly great moment in native American history!
Why can't I find this episode in the channel? Just clips of this episode are available.
It’s on 5p0t1f¥
@@billyellisjr.6016 I found the full episode. I guess all the episodes are on spotify now. Sucks because alot of people still watch the youtube episodes
no need to be nervous. you were great. thank you
where can i watch this full podcast? nonstop?
Sounds like when i have to explain some of the history to my ignorant friends lol
Worth it. Keep doing that ! Education - not hate and ignorance. Thank you 🙏🏼
Natives were far from peaceable before white settlers came. They fought each other over land, they did many atrocious things.
@@nordscan9043 u are correct they even killed baby’s there other guest rogan brought
@@alisonhurtado1094 The historian who talked about the Comanches.
I'm with you on that,....!!!
Great interview!Very insightful.
This makes me tear up and wonder how my ancestors felt in central america.
It’s all there in the historical records. The continued barbaric invasions upon their magnificent cultures & incredibly productive people. Centuries of Atrocities. Land theft. Enslavement. Genocides. The N. American & Central American Indigenous are ignored despite this nation having been built upon Their Land. Their Backs. We must do better!
@@Luca-nu2zg After whatever riches they possessed were stolen, their historical lands stolen they were continually subjected to torture. Killed. It’s these native Am. who were enslaved to begin the settlement of this nation. Who do you think built the early missions? That is The Original Sin of this country!
Fun fact that a lot of people don't know...Joe was 100% correct about it happening around the gold rush time. America's 1st gold rush actually happened in a tiny town called Dahlonega in Northeast Georgia in 1829. Anyone else see that direct correlation now?
Great show. True free speech.
Numunu here. Yes we are alive and trying to prosper! Can't believe I have not seen this video. Good stuff. Ura
Haa!
Is saying a tribe needs to be civilized the same as calling them inferior or is it saying they need to be a civilization with an actual government representing the people?
Tokes Alotta They call them savages I’m going to go with the first one. They can’t be barbarians and scalping people
It's calling them inferior. You only correct people when you believe you are better suited to deal with stuff than they are
Bold of you to assume Native tribes weren't governing themselves. Or does it not count as governing if it's something different than the European/Christian/caucasian way?
Sit the fuck down and let the grown ups talk.
I love how people think of Cher from the 70's as an Indian when she has 0 Indian blood, just cultural appropriated Cherokee culture by a song with an outfit. And speaking of the 70's, if you are old enough to remember the commercial with the crying Indian looking at trash - he was an Italian actor.
Russell Means would have been a great guest on JRE
I'm actually writing an essay on Justice John Marshall where i cite 8 cases of his for a graduate level course, 2 of the cases which she briefed. This was absolutely random to appear at this time for me. Lol great talk, great lady. Good info. Who would've thought, Joe Rogan and a legit american legal history lecture. Haha. Love this podcast
I prefer indigenous. Indians are from India.
Trapper/ Indigenous ancestral transplant here. I would really love to invoke hunting rights and things like that but I don't have a tribe, and it's so hard to trace it back when they cover it up
@@user-jb1tu9ic7y ask around your local river systems. Most elderly are dying fast tho
This happened in Canada too believe it or not, look up residental schools, the movie " We Were Children" horrific movie
true, saw that movie and it was terrible. Glad that at least canada tries to make up for the shit the government and the british and french did to the natives of the north
whats up with all this self hatred
Thank you for sharing
Blackfoot confederacy right here! Blood Tribe , Fish Eaters Clan! Alberta AND Montana
Oki Napi!
Oki
Navajo here look up the navajo code talkers
They won WW2! Still, they get treated like crap. It's unreal.
I was once lucky enough to be hosted by a Navajo family near Gallup NewMexico. Genuinely one of the greatest experiences of my life and the whole family was so proud to tell me the history of the Code Talkers. The US needs more Native History taught.
Help them out look for some RUclips channels of natives that might help
Patrickisanavajo is fun I do not and never have lived on a res but I have family there and its heartbreaking
If you wanna know more I suggest my fellow youtubers look up russels means he talks about it
One thing she doesnt mention thats important is that 1934 base rolls screwed everything up so the feds put the wrong indians into the wrong tribe and never bothered fixing it . and its still 2021 and the matter doesn't get fixed cause now all the feds see is a casino and money
More schools should teach our story of the indigenous peoples of this country…
I'm a direct descendant from Jenny Wiley who also had a incredible story with Indian people... I'm always fascinated by these stories
Why is this ep. Private??
Any talking about the plague blankets? Distributed by the armed forces at Forts across America. My Great grandmother caught TB she left behind 5 children at the age of 30. Cherokee county, Oklahoma by the way is were im from. 🕊️
I see blood for Land and Oil. Control by force and illness.
Native people taught the colonist how to fight Indian style and helped them defeat the British to win their independence and then turned against Natives by claimed they were inferior. The lived here for thousands of years but yet they claim they are incapable of managing their own affairs.
Joe rogan need to have dane Calloway on his show
Hell yeah dane needs to check in.. this lady pissed me off she isn’t even native
Why am i not able to find this full podcast? I have sent numerous emails to joe and his people about getting someone on here who actually know what they are talking about with natives and can only find bits and pieces of this. Joe goin to school today
Thank you Joe, Very cool!
What a great conversation with this eloquent guest. I have a life-long infatuation with the native people or indigenous nations. I have never believed that the USA was the "land of the free", after freedom was conquered and stopped to be.
Look up how Hawaii became a part of merica.
They teach the native language in all schools don't they? That seems the other way around to your statement
Got robbed . They threw their queen in jail while they had an election for becoming a state
The California gold rus was 1848 to 1855 there was also a Georgia gold rush "The Georgia Gold Rush was the second significant gold rush in the United States and the first in Georgia, and overshadowed the previous rush in North Carolina. It started in 1829 in present-day Lumpkin County near the county seat, Dahlonega, and soon spread through the North Georgia mountains, following the Georgia Gold Belt. By the early 1840s, gold became difficult to find. Many Georgia miners moved west when gold was found in the Sierra Nevada in 1848, starting the California Gold Rush. "
Joey if you or jamie r reading this. The indian res is s great topic. Marzulli interviews peep living on these resv and the stories r crazy. Ex. Centerions half upper torso man lower body horse grazing in backyards at night on the resv Crazy s.... Stay on this topic it will trip u out on what u will learn. Resv is land blessed spirutually by local indian gurus doctors spirit guides etc . you will see crazy things if you camp out on a reservation take eddie and it will be a trip. Lights out camp no fire in tent and watch the orbs surround you bro. Take my word take my word
What the fuck?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joseph
thank you joe great video awesome interview / podcast
They were prison camps. Pine Ridge Reservation is War Camp #334.
Same up in Canada. It's just optical illusions with the fake peace treatys.
It Was Kool Hearing the Exciment in her voice Her say how Thrilled and Honored too tell The Story on Your Show💯🤙
It's crazy that Indians made such a huge impact on the United States. I wonder why naan is not more popular? And the US is a mostly steak based diet and Indians are mostly Hindu which forbids harming cows in any way. I wonder how Indians felt about that..? Oh well, all I know is that Indians are an amazing group of people and Punjabi women are some of the most beautiful in the world.
.........seriously? the term "indians" for native americans is because the first europeans mistakenly thought N.America was India. It is term of reference now to what everyone SHOULD know are the native tribes of North and South America. not the actual people from the country India.... jesus man, read a book.
@@eshep2943 If anything they are related to the indians; Indo European Aryans were from North India. Haplogroup Q ; the first Americans were Eurasian , so they were Mongoloid mixed with Uralic peoples . The ones in central america do appear to have been related to Southern Indians like Tegulu or the Malaysians.
@@chibiromano5631 native americans have lived for so long on the north and south continents that whomever their ancestors come from is not the issue of debate, especially because if we use your argument then we can also say that indians are related to africans, since humanity came from that continent. The way he used the title "indian" is debatable though, because it was a mistake made in ignorance(no fault of the early explorers) Which is why i found the guys comment to be mind blowing in how he thought it actually meant india the country. though in the guys defense, if he was not taught any canadian or american history, then he is excused.
@@eshep2943 yeah and they still call mexicans hispanics and latinos. Hispanic -somebody from iberia, latino -somebody from Latino Rome in Italy. Indian-somebody from hindus river region.
The term indian actually existed before the country was founded. Back in 1500s the place was called Bharat but by explorers it was known as hindustan , Malaysia and Indonesia were also classified in this.
So they would have thought the Americans of the central region looked Malaysian but still refered to them as indians.
ps. huamnity didn't come from sub africa.
some of the earliest humans were found in somalia which is eratrian and is way different from congo.
But at least for the mogoloid and uralic people inlcuding the native americans, they stem from another human being that originated from China. The earliest Finnish DNA can be traced to the LIan river.
There are 3-5 species of man
@@chibiromano5631 3 to 5 species of man ? You've failed in life. All of humanity doesn't have enough distance between eachother to call themselves seperate species. Theres different populations of humans, but based on haplogroup ages and migrations, it plainly shows were all related to one another. Were one species along a spectrum.
@JRE I am enrolled into the Kickapoo tribe in Kansas, I am also part Potawatomi(our neighbor/brother tribe) very closely related woodland tribes. I am also a descendant of quannah Parker. My last time would have been Parker if my father had not been adopted by the Kickapoo tribe when he was a boy. I understand my roots and where I come from. I am very much active in participating in our ceremonies, and speak all 3 languages of those tribes. Yes I hunt my game cause that’s one thing i was taught since a boy, and how to farm my own crops. I’m well aware of herbal medicines we used, and some of us do to this day. I wouldn’t go around saying I’m Native American tho, I would introduce myself as my traditional name. Shipshewano, tail of an under water panther. I don’t like using my government name whatsoever, I do represent all 3 of my tribes cause I am a proud descendant of my 3 tribes. I’ve grown up on the reservation till about 12, went to riverside Indian school, a boarding school. It’s not what boarding school used to be, all faculty are members of federally recognized tribes. This school is in Anadarko Oklahoma, they taught us our real history of numerous tribes. Great school, I’ve met and have many friends with other tribes all over the us. I currently go to college at Haskell Indian nations university, where I am furthering my education. Hopefully one day to fix the corruption of my tribe that I am enrolled in. It’s one of the reasons we’re still in poverty, we don’t have people who are qualified to govern our sovereign nations. Going to college we have a course on tribal governance, and I encourage all the young natives of of whatever tribe to get educated. It is the key, not only to live in the society we’ve been assimilated into, but to fix corruption and better our leadership. Yeah I can talk about broken treaties and how the government fucked us. I am a firm believer that if all the native tribes unite together. We can get the recourses we truly need. For the most part we’re on the way there, but recognition is needed as well. I was at work one day, and my boss is kinda naive. Asking if we pay taxes, yes we do. If we still live in tipis/hogons/huts. No we don’t but we still use those and have them. I guess you can say the world kinda forgot about us, even tho our population isn’t what it was. We’re still here and very much resilient no matter what the world throws at us. Currently they are trying to get the icwa(American Indian welfare act) thrown out. What that act does is keeps native children in natives communities, so that we don’t forget who we are and where we come from. It also protects our lands from being governed by the government of the United States. My father was our chairman for my enrolled tribe. He taught me a lot of tribal politics, as well as our history and rights.
Indian child welfare act*
I understand what this lady is fighting for but it's naive of her to think that this land "belongs to the native Americans", they are not even native to this land infact a study of anthropology would destroy any race, ethnicity etc. claim to any land. We are all human beings at the end of the day.
We've been here since before Jesus my guy
What a great guest Joe, I really liked her. Im blessed to say I grew up with and around the Nez Perce Indian tribe..awesome people! 🤙
My husband is black and part Choctaw. My own family is part Cherokee. Its so wrong how the indigenous people are restricted and labeled according to American government. America is a strange country
My grandpa, a fur trapper, hunter and local guide in montana (who adopted my mom and all her siblings) raised us alongside a 20 something odd group of Native Americans who had nowhere else to go. We had all become a very beautiful family and i remember we'd all play cowboys and indians together, specifically divvying ourselves up by race. We had a lot of fun and I miss them a lot. They always prefered to be called American Indians instead of Natives. I never saw them again after the old man passed roughly a decade ago. :-/
When I was a kid it was the same way, they decided who was a cowboy and who was an Indian based on hair and eyes and skin tone too. In hindsight it hurt my feelings them picking for me because I wanted to be the good guy not the bad guy like all the movies I saw. I was the cowboy at home but the Indian at school.
I woulda much rather been raised as an American Indian than a regular settler! Totally love and respect the American Indians.
Hey Joe and friends!! Consider this an invitation to come up to my First Nation/ Indian Reservation up in North Central Alberta. It's called Sucker Creek. It's a paradise untouched for ever
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I’m proud to be Native American indigenous! I am mixed tribes . Brown proud 🪶✊🏽✨
I've lived on one for over 30 years.
22 years for me.
Just curious, so with reservations having sovereignty, an opposing force could ally and use their land as a base of operations?
No. It would violate our treaties.
I maybe not rich. But rich in culture. #need #better #indian #joe #rogan
Mdewakanton here. From SMSC.
Our tribe has been messed up since 1934 . feds put any Indian in minnesota wandering around into any reservation they found suitable. Fast foward today u have sisseton natives and ojiwbes claiming to be mdewakanton which they arent and there collecting money off there land and screwing over the true blood mdewakantons. Feds don't care about this everytime I call them they laugh and say tough shit. We need more people to voice to the feds that reservations need to go and the land needs to be given back to the right people.
What if the natives had ships and guns before Europeans? Would they have brought peaceful spiritually to France?
They wouldnt of pulled up.....unlike Europeans who did EVERYWHERE and tried to take over EVERYWHERE
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They were ignorant.
They didn't even have the wheel.
@@AZ-kr6ff im sure a stone wheel would have made them less ignorant lol they lived a nomad lifestyle they didnt need the wheel
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Right...wheels aren't good for traveling.
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If only there were a portable version of the wheel!
it is understandable that healthy discrimination i.e. Reservation should be part of the Indian Constitution for the welfare of the underprivileged. But what part or percentage of the underprivileged actually reap the benefits of such Reservations ? What percentage of the underprivileged get to the point of sitting in the nation-wide, state-wide or institution-wide Exams / Employment to actually uplift their statuses ?
Indian Constitution, Article 15 should be amended again where we add the clause of "family income" to be presented at the time of eligibility for the Reservation, so that the benefits could actually reach to our underprivileged citizens therefore getting them out of poverty and help deal with the "status' Dogma. It will also help us tackle the ever growing issues like Brain Drain.
Rez life, whole 'nother world in so many ways........
History, no one lives the same. Everything changes. Remembering the good old day.
That’s the thing tho, “the new way” is really just the old way, but only for White people. White people have been living the same way for centuries, it’s everyone else who has to live in the shadow of their umbrella. WE have to adapt and call the old white way, the new way for us.
A lot of trigger, butt hurt, people in the comment section whenever Joe discusses Native American topics. Proud of my Cree/ Blackfoot/ Saulteaux blood 🩸 Watch: here comes the haters lol
No haters 😂. Most respect Native American culture. The ones who hate are ignorant and closed minded
Hate. That's alot to think about
@First Last so your saying even African American ppl born here are Native American?
@First Last nope. I'm just American. I get what your saying tho. I feel like native American refers to the tribes that were native to the land before Europe conquered.
@First Last yeah Indians are from India and native Americans are the native ppl to America Im not lucky enough to really know all of my ancestry so I'm just American
Extremely sad that this is a huge part of our history and yet it’s barley talked about.
Joe: He was the last comanche chief.
Shannon: You know they still live today (meaning they still have chiefs).
Joe: Yes, they do.....they were wiped out!
I guess the erasure continues. Sad.
He wasn't aware of the implications of what he said. I think he was just referring to how the traditional lifestyle of the comanche was "wiped out" because of the settlers.
" Their way of life was removed, they were wiped out. " It's a cultural reference. He then goes onto mention how he is currently in contact with them so obviously he not reffering to them as a whole people, as he says " their way of life " which is drastically different now. No more counting coup ;)
Oh my gosh, did this lady prepare at all? she is all over the place.
Yeah she is, but she did say that this is pretty huge for her to invited and she's nervous. It's like watching someone present something for the first time in front of a group of people 😂
That whole warehouse/ studio is filled with weed smoking. Or partaked in a splif er two.
So is the history
they do that to all tribes Irish, Welsh, German and so on.
Thank you💛
I'm hopi. Were one of the few people to resist the government and the Spanish conquistadors. We were subjected to about four hundred years of brutal persecution by the Spanish.
A girl I’m currently talking to is a Navajo and is from a reservation.. she’s told me some interesting things! So I just recently found out about the nations inside the nations
Oryn33321
Give us some examples you were surprised by she told you from within the reservation.
Becareful she could be a skin Walker!!!!
Johnathon Castro dude just looked up what that means.. I’m kinda afraid to ask her about it..
Hollywood Gold just in general I never knew that they had their own president, princes and princesses.. They make you get married at 16.. so she left. Some more stuff on the darker side.. but I don’t feel safe talking about it for some reason.
Oryn33321 every tribe is different
That is not exactly what the doctrine of discovery is, it was an international law that nations could claim uninhabited/undeveloped land for any reason they wanted. But in the case she is speaking of, they considered indian land uninhabited because the indians were not civilized christians, therefore could not be entitled to fee simple ownership, only right to occupy; later they called this a "usufruct title".
I love and have the upmost respect for native Americans and Native American history. It makes me sick what the white Europeans did to the Native people. I wish they could've found peace and shared the land somehow.
Listen to both sides, somewhere in the middle is the truth. Both the native Americans and Europeans did horrific things.
@@zenithskull after taking Native American land and calling it a discovery, killing the people and after all that trying to gain there trust and betraying them again and again and again.
@@zenithskull I'm pretty sure the European settlers were more at fault dude.
@@mattsimmons3580 Share the world, peace for all. Nobody has any hunger or desire! A place where everyone is happy all the time and carnivores just stop feeding right? Yeah peace and love. It's so nice and warm and fuzzy!
OK. The truth is: the winner decides. If native americans were as developed as the invaders they would have slain us remorselessly. The world is not built on peace. Not now, not ever. Grow up! If you want to get ahead, perform the best of those surrounding you. You do not have to be perfect, just better than the rest. Maybe more efficient or meaner or more scary or technologically superior or more sneaky! The winner takes all. It's rough! It's life! Welcome to earth.
I would like to warn all of the people who identified themselves as a member of the group who were being preserved. Yes, the situation in America is cruel and unusual. The suffering is real and undeniable. However, I would like to ask for sympathy for not just your identified ancestors and yourself but also people with the same fate. American handling of their past is not fantastic. However, it is relatively soft compare to things like sending soldiers in people’s land, make them inter-marry local people so the children would follow their father’s culture and speak their father’s language. Please, criticise the U.S., but don’t ever forget how much exception America is. Fight injustice but always appreciate what you have.
Joe Rogan: I must defend the books I read. Hahaha he got so defensive
This lady doesn't actually seem like she grew up in the actual native culture. She just seems like a historian from a settler perspective or something.
what does her t shirt say?
It says.....
"I wish I was Indian, so I could own a casino, but I'm stuck fucking a white man"
Thank you. Excellent podcast!💡
There was a gold rush in Georgia in the early 1800's. Heck, my understanding is the Blue Ridge park way was following a gold vein in the early 1930's.
There isn't a Nation inside of a nation
There is a nation with a nation around it
Don’t try and correct or talk over us Native Americans..... Joe, you read a book about us by a white man and you think you can try to talk over this well spoken Native American woman. Let our Native sister speak.
my mother who is First Nation, my mother and brother and sisters all ran away together and lived on their own since they did not want to be raised by europeans and forced into those terrible Catholic schools. im proud how my mother uncles and aunts suvived by themselves on the run from the government.