Not even the king of the sea (Great White Shark) would dare to challenge this beast. Leviathan was definitely one of (if not the most) ferocious creatures in the sea.
At one time all whales were toothed whales as they evolved from a toothed mammal. Very interesting video and well done. Moreover, it appears the teeth although not mentioned here, were self sharpening.
Funny thing about evolution. How come we don't have fossils of things inbetween? Like a whale somehow functioning while having half teeth and half baleen while it's attempting to evolve each generation.
@@hydraxc2478 we do have fossils of in-between species, but you can't expect to have fossils of all species, because the conditions for bones to fossilize are extremely rare.
@@hydraxc2478 literally every fossil is "in between" lol. What a stupid question. You know we have basically the whole lineage of animals from pakicetus to modern whales right? You might be able to try that goofy argument with other animals that we haven't found a strong record of but whales aren't it, we damn near have their evolutionary record of fossils step by step.
We cannot really say which one is bigger. The biggest in a few thousands of megalodons almost certainly outsize Livyatan. Similarly, Livyatan almost certainly outsizes the smallest megs. Much more is difficult to say because it depends on the varying figures existing for both, but this is no orca/gws-situation were the whale simply has a significant size advantage that it employs effectively to dispatch its prey.
We indigenous people of Australia believed in a creature that has a tail like a cedar, it is painted in caves as rock arts, these stories were told by our ancestors....
@@fart63 youre ignorant do your research if humans lived with dinosaurs before the flood how could your statement be true. Wether you believe in the Bible are not every religion and nation has a history of a world wide flood how would they know this if humans weren't arounf
@@XaeSpaceTv do you people understand how often floods happen? All over the world? Of course every nation and religion has reports of a massive flood. Floods happen all the fucking time. And humans were not alive when dinosaurs were, so what are you talking about?
if we're judging the outcome of the fight based on bite force and sheer teeth size then the meg and leyv were both hunted to extinction by Tony Robbins who after he consumed them all evolved to live on land and started selling his self help books
I saw a recent Video on a Sperm Whale that got sick & washed ashore in the UK. When they were doing the Beach Autopsy they found a Tooth in one of the Upper holes of the jaw where the modern Sperm Whales Teeth rest. It must have been a throwback to this Giant
if you look at both ancient hebrew, ancient greek and the present day bible.. it explains why the leviathan is a whale in the ancient jewish mythology it says that the leviathan is a 300 mile long whale. In modern day hebrew.. Leviathan means "whale" and also there are 3 types of monsters: -The Leviathan (Sea Creature) -The Behemoth (Land Creature) -The Ziz (Dragon)
@pyroman1000k there is not many vertebrae... they are very very rare as far as i know, and what site? do i find it through your profile? does it give an size estimate based of the vertebrae there like you say?
The word Leviathan can be used for anything, it is entirely up to the person using it. By the way I'm Christian and your comment needs to be deleted. Thanks.
Leviathan was the genus name for this creature, which is now called Livyatan as another creature was all ready called Leviathan. So ya Leviathan can be used for anything but if a creature is named Leviathan, your talking about that creature, not anything.
@pyroman1000k I don't understand why you guys are even arguing about this. We barely know anything about this creature other than it has 14 inch teeth. Most of the tooth is root just like predator x's tooth. In some article, they mentioned it's teeth were heavily rooted. I'm assuming 6 or 7 inches of the teeth is actually visible when on the leviathan.
@fmoa Great whites generally avoid attack areas like the rib cage but Megalodon's target that. They also target flippers and the thiner parts towards the back so they can stop the prey from moving.
@pyroman1000k ... well i checked... did not see a link anywhere, just you saying you read a piece of work from 2003... so could you please link it again? i'm curious to read the article about meg vertebrae size estimation.
I thought the leviathan was like a sea dragon. Which obviously I know there's no such thing as dragons but that's the pictures you see when you look it up
I'm Christian and I've read Job where it discribes the leviathan and it has scales, which mammals do not (whales are mammals) the leviathan breaths fire, which is not very useful for a whale, in the sea.
How could this be 12-13 million years old when the earth is only 6000 years old??!? Just kidding. Great find. Isn't there a coaster named after this at Canada's Wonderland?
Gigantism and dwarfism in marine mammalian species is fascinating. This monster is more than I can imagine, but how this happens makes me wonder if we are missing something important when these fossils get classified? Evolution aside; how did it get so big? The diet of such lifeforms must have been ravenous?
But in their cladogram of July 2010, they've updated it since. Leviathan is the common name, but not the technically adequate name. The guys think it is the accurate technical name.
@pyroman1000k Thats the average size of megalodon and max size of leviatha. Newer estimates put it at 20.5 meters. Leviathan never reached 20 meters. Even the articles said they ranged from 13 to 18 meters max.
There is a similar skeleton on my sinai... Some guys doing some biblical search on Google maps found it a couple years back... The named it the same thing. But someone needs to go dig it up and compare the two species ...
Actually, they lived about 10-5 mya not 13-12 so...nitpick! Still, Livyatan's one of my favorite prehistoric whales and it would make a great opponent for Otodus megalodon.
@pyroman1000k I know but a 7 inch tooth would definately be from a 60 foot individual. 7 inches is about 2.8 times the size of a great whites' tooth but 60 feet is less than 2.8 times the size of the tooth so if it did have large teeth in comparison to body, it would be 60 feet at smallest for a Megallodon. I honestly don't think that it would have large teeth in relation to body size. It's more likely for it to have smaller teeth in comparison to body.
In the Hebrew bible the leviathan is also stated as being a dragon, but what's strange is that in Hebrew, leviathan actually means whale. So yeah, perhaps a scaly whale?
I'm no scientist, but still, looking at the skull of an Orca compared to a Sperm Whale and this beast; I would say Livyatan was a prehistoric Orca, not a prehistoric Sperm Whale.
@pyroman1000k yeah i know that. a large meg would have 7 in. plus sized teeth... but unlike leviathan it would have had a much larger number of much more damaging teeth... as for the sperm whale, its hardly suited to engage large massive creatures. max size of meg is currently at 67 or so feet and 103 tons, about the same max size as a sperm whale (estimates for a sperm whale above 20 meters are now considered dubious or false) Meg had a huge number of teeth in a huge mouth, a deadlier bite
Great documentary, the teeth of Livyatan is insane. Megalodon along with Livyatan are the most massive and powerful marine predators that ever lived in our planet.
Thing is, it simply wouldn't. We're far too small to satisfy its diet. Plus, it feeds on giant squid in deeper parts of the ocean, not necessarily anywhere that the casual beach-goer would be swimming.
@pyroman1000k seriously 13 meters to 15 meters? If the largest Megalodon tooth so far is 3 times the size of a great whites tooth what makes you think it couldn't have been 67 feet long? 60 feet is the smallest possible size for a shark with 7 inch teeth
you are a failure, just like the animal you defend, in the end this useless animal is nothing more than a slow and long animal and at most it would reach 10 meters
*_Leviathan_* was the first name given to that whale, but it was soon changed to *_Livyatan_* when the discoverers found out that Leviathan already was the so-called junior synonym of the genus _Mammut_ in the family Mammutidae, containing the rather primitive proboscideans known as *_mastodons._* This is quite confusing since the true mammoths belong to the genus _Mammuthus_ in the family Elephantidae and are thus much closer related to modern elephants.
@pyroman1000k ... i just said that... do you even read what i write? i said a few vertebrae have been found... its not an imprint, and imprint like you suggested was that the cartilage skeleton of a meg was fossilized in mud etc etc and later found... an imprint of meg's skeleton.. and like i said above, vertebrae found can not be used for size estimates as there is only a few ever found and it is harder to estimate size from then as opposed to teeth, which there are a few equations on as of now
There are some people that found a similar skeleton in I think said I Arabia by using Google maps search...they were looking at some biblical sites and found a skull that they named the same thing...thrse guys should look up the you tube video and go dig it up...they called it the serpent or leviathan or satan or some biblical name they said they all meant the same thing ... Idk... But I do know the skeleton of the huge fish/ dino/ like serpent thong was near or on my sinai... Maybe it is the female and male who knows? I just think it is funny that there's guys do this for a living as scientists who believe in dinosaur age yet chose a biblical name for the creature...
@Ashterrs Well u have to look at the fact that they had a city up in the freaking mountains and it looks to high right now for us to be so freaking high, but maybe everything around it was water and has dried down with time.
What I’d like to know is, where can you find Livyatan teeth? Megalodon teeth are easy to find, like beaches, diving in coastal areas and old ancient river beds, but where do you find Livyatan teeth? Is there any other place other than Perú? It seems their more rare than megalodon teeth.
Livyatan Melvillei was close match for normal megalodon, but large populations of female megalodons were on average size 15 to 16 meters long and weighed 40 to 50 tons. The most reasonable estimate for Livyatan Melvillei is 16 metres long, weighing 50 tons, and even the megalodon, which is 16 metres long, is enough to make Livyatan Melvillei feel the strain. So far, the reasonably largest megalodon is 20 to 21 meters long and weighs 90 to 100 tons, fully twice the size of Livyatan Melvillei, which is still no match for the large individual and the largest individual megalodon. At the same size and weight, Livyatan Melvillei already couldn't deal with megalodon anymore.
both of them ond have the largest and strongest jaws of any terrestrial animal that has ever lived on this planet maybe rivaled by the dunkleostus or mosasaurus or maybe not idk, plus there isnt a huge difference in 16 meters and 21 meters, and even if there is if you look at its jaw thickness at the teeth of the leviathan which are twice as long and are much thicker than the megalodons teeth, this thing wouldve only needed a single bite to kill any megalodon, and the same goes for a megalodon killing a leviathan
@pyroman1000k And what was killing all these animals? Most of these victims didn't die of old age. You can tell what happened to it just by looking at the fossil
@oddXmanXout They just named it leviathan because it was so big and it sounded like a good name because the word leviathan means-anything of immense size and power . That in no way says that it was a descendant of the levaithan.
You are intrepreting too much and reacting too much to the harmless use of a name. Watch the video above, they use it too. And how was a paper updated?
@mjglader -Leviathan was described in detail in the Book of Job, and was clearly a (scaled) sea monster. In Psalms it had mulitiple heads. So until we discover a multiheaded sea dragon, this animal is as good a representation of Leviathan as any. Also, as the man in the video says, the name is more clearly a reference to the novel Moby Dick. So you disagree with how they named this whale, so what. When you discover something cool I'm sure you'll give it a very fitting name!
Very late addition to your answer lmao, but Leviathan and sea monsters similar to it from the regional mythologies were often associated with Whales due to their size too. Does make me wonder if the namers knew about that connection as well.
@@Lotan_ Dang, 10 years! I actually love getting replies to ancient comments I've made here. I honestly don't remember this video, I'm going to have to rewatch it when I get home.
@Horrorlord1 But it would. Megalodon would have the expirience of fighting this whale in the video, which is roughly the same size as a Meg, not to mention expirience from fighting other Megs, and pack hunting Basilosaurus. Havent yah seen Jurassic Fight Club?
Well u also have to look at the bible where the name originally comes from "Leviathan" and it was the most feared animal in the water serpent-like and it describe it as teeth so close to each other that air can not come between it, this might it been it.
@Horrorlord1 Lol what about it? Its a common error to thing that Liopleurodon would be a match for megalodon. For starters, they lived millions of years appart, unlike this whale, and second, Megalodon was 10-15 ft larger, had a stronger bite, was probably faster, and had more developed sense of a shark.
@pyroman1000k He never said anything about old being correct. He just said that they always thought it was big. Read the article about megalodon's size on wikipedia. Before saying something like it's inaccurate, the information there is basically a combination of all the things we know about it. It's reverted back to normal if someone changes it and the things they add are inaccurate. Actually read the whole page
@pyroman1000k an orca can't produce a serious wound on a 12-15 meter whale.. a sperm whale have a huge layer of blubber that must be overcome, an orca's jaw is not that impressive to puncture veins in an adult sperm whale, a cub maybe. you should link to the vid showing that incident- as for the playing point, whats your point? we're discussing orca's ability to take on a full grown meg, i just ment to say that orca's usually feed on seals and small whales like dolphins etc
the holotypes upper estimate based on zygophyseter is 17,5m, and it was the one with the 36cm teeth. 40cm teeth would belong to something bigger than that, to use the same ratio what´s likely as the teeth are so huge that the holotype would rather have had large teeth as far as individual variation goes, 19,4m. and the largest megalodon tooth was 19,4cm, even it being vastly restored, and would not belong to something bigger than that except when using speculative figures for the ratio.
@pyroman1000k ... the orca killed a young great white, 3 meter if memories serve... again you show little knowledge beyond the general incident... and many believe meg were at least somewhat related to great white and its kin, which have live babies... a meg's infant would be 4 meters long i believe.
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul orca is a dolphin, livyathan is a pure whale. And the bite force beetwen megalodon and livyathan is too far and they re on the same size, while the great white and orca isn't just fair, orca have bigger bite and bigger size. The fair fight only happen when megalodon fight a pack of livyathan (probably megalodon lose xD)
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul but Livyathan is on the whale, not the dolphin, probably its a bit slower. Livyathan tooth is only long, but the mouth pressure is small, so thats why the bite isn't that terrifying as megalodon
@pyroman1000k a long and compared to body size thin jaw is not suited to hold onto a 100 ton animal thrashing about. scientists here suggest it fed on small to medium sized baleen whales which are 6-9 meters i believe and 3-10 tons in weight. in the water, the whale would have to contain its prey's entire weight, as opposed to land where weight is dispersed where it stands, a t'rex never had to contain the entire weight of its prey in its jaws, leviathan's jaws is unsuited for large game.
and no, just because their teeth were so large, does not mean their bite force was so strong. their biteforce was only about 33k, while the megalodon’s was 42k.
They were not living in the same time, the sperm whale survived but has reduced in size such the same way humans are no longer 30 ft. Tall like in the time of the specimen
Imagine I discover a range of hills measuring 10,000' above sea level, and then I name them 'The Himalayas'. So it is with this guy discovering a bigger sperm whale then calling it Leviathan -_-
My god, what a monster this thing was.
Not even the king of the sea (Great White Shark) would dare to challenge this beast. Leviathan was definitely one of (if not the most) ferocious creatures in the sea.
and holy sh**, its not just from subnautica.
@@chaosinorder9685 Great White isn't the king, It's Orca.
@@ardi1606 it's megalodon not orca.
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 nope, it's human. Megalodon ain't shit against us.
At one time all whales were toothed whales as they evolved from a toothed mammal. Very interesting video and well done. Moreover, it appears the teeth although not mentioned here, were self sharpening.
Funny thing about evolution. How come we don't have fossils of things inbetween? Like a whale somehow functioning while having half teeth and half baleen while it's attempting to evolve each generation.
@@hydraxc2478 we do have fossils of in-between species, but you can't expect to have fossils of all species, because the conditions for bones to fossilize are extremely rare.
@@Player-re9mo We don't have examples of what I'm talking about though. Always the full versions of the end evolution.
@@hydraxc2478 literally every fossil is "in between" lol. What a stupid question. You know we have basically the whole lineage of animals from pakicetus to modern whales right? You might be able to try that goofy argument with other animals that we haven't found a strong record of but whales aren't it, we damn near have their evolutionary record of fossils step by step.
@@themonsterbabyYou're a real beauty aren't you? Pedantic prick. Get bent.
Leviathan is used both on the video above and in even in the description paper, it can be used to refer to it, as a common name.
We cannot really say which one is bigger. The biggest in a few thousands of megalodons almost certainly outsize Livyatan. Similarly, Livyatan almost certainly outsizes the smallest megs. Much more is difficult to say because it depends on the varying figures existing for both, but this is no orca/gws-situation were the whale simply has a significant size advantage that it employs effectively to dispatch its prey.
We indigenous people of Australia believed in a creature that has a tail like a cedar, it is painted in caves as rock arts, these stories were told by our ancestors....
They saw whales..
This story was told LONG before aboriginals
This thing went extinct 12 million years before humans existed bruh
@@fart63 youre ignorant do your research if humans lived with dinosaurs before the flood how could your statement be true. Wether you believe in the Bible are not every religion and nation has a history of a world wide flood how would they know this if humans weren't arounf
@@XaeSpaceTv do you people understand how often floods happen? All over the world? Of course every nation and religion has reports of a massive flood. Floods happen all the fucking time. And humans were not alive when dinosaurs were, so what are you talking about?
if we're judging the outcome of the fight based on bite force and sheer teeth size then the meg and leyv were both hunted to extinction by Tony Robbins who after he consumed them all evolved to live on land and started selling his self help books
I saw a recent Video on a Sperm Whale that got sick & washed ashore in the UK. When they were doing the Beach Autopsy they found a Tooth in one of the Upper holes of the jaw where the modern Sperm Whales Teeth rest. It must have been a throwback to this Giant
You're killing me with that picture of a humpback that you put up to show a blue whale.
Still, great video.
if you look at both ancient hebrew, ancient greek and the present day bible.. it explains why the leviathan is a whale
in the ancient jewish mythology it says that the leviathan is a 300 mile long whale. In modern day hebrew.. Leviathan means "whale"
and also there are 3 types of monsters:
-The Leviathan (Sea Creature)
-The Behemoth (Land Creature)
-The Ziz (Dragon)
@pyroman1000k there is not many vertebrae... they are very very rare as far as i know, and what site? do i find it through your profile? does it give an size estimate based of the vertebrae there like you say?
1:04, listen to how badly that sentence has been chopped up lol
megaledon vs mother in law...
who would win?
George Johnson They might just team up and screw us all over
Oh definitely the mother in law, the megalodon just isn’t as intimidating 😂
They would both be a meg you brain dead???
MeGAleDown
Zen jeong rebelle its a mother in law idiot not mother
Fascinating! So, I think that Megalodon finally has a rival :))
Its 2x bigger than meg
AcriesGaming roblox I think it’s as big as the meg, but smarter.
@@VladSicoe its about as big as 3 blue whales according to the bible i think
AcriesGaming roblox the actual animal that lived so long ago is about the meg’s size. You’re reffering to the biblical monster.
@@VladSicoe k but im suprised that u replied after 9 years
The word Leviathan can be used for anything, it is entirely up to the person using it.
By the way I'm Christian and your comment needs to be deleted.
Thanks.
Leviathan was the genus name for this creature, which is now called Livyatan as another creature was all ready called Leviathan.
So ya Leviathan can be used for anything but if a creature is named Leviathan, your talking about that creature, not anything.
I wonder if they used echo location?
All whales do
MR TRU
Baleen whales don’t.
Just toothed whales.
@pyroman1000k I don't understand why you guys are even arguing about this. We barely know anything about this creature other than it has 14 inch teeth. Most of the tooth is root just like predator x's tooth. In some article, they mentioned it's teeth were heavily rooted. I'm assuming 6 or 7 inches of the teeth is actually visible when on the leviathan.
@fmoa Great whites generally avoid attack areas like the rib cage but Megalodon's target that. They also target flippers and the thiner parts towards the back so they can stop the prey from moving.
@pyroman1000k ... well i checked... did not see a link anywhere, just you saying you read a piece of work from 2003... so could you please link it again? i'm curious to read the article about meg vertebrae size estimation.
In Hebrew "leviathan" means a whale.
North or South side of Spencer creek? Gonna ride over and check this out in the next couple months.
Finally an animal that can give Megalodon competition
I thought the leviathan was like a sea dragon. Which obviously I know there's no such thing as dragons but that's the pictures you see when you look it up
I'm Christian and I've read Job where it discribes the leviathan and it has scales, which mammals do not (whales are mammals) the leviathan breaths fire, which is not very useful for a whale, in the sea.
Levi Froese Froese hi.... a christian here..... maybe theyre talking about some kind of reptile.... a bible's reference of dragons ?
Levi Froese Froese They named it Livyatan because it's like the horrifying and powerful creature from your book.
+Levi Froese Froese Leviathan from the Bible was a Nile crocodile.
Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus no it wasn’t
Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus all you did was look that up
Try reading the actual book
How could this be 12-13 million years old when the earth is only 6000 years old??!?
Just kidding. Great find. Isn't there a coaster named after this at Canada's Wonderland?
YEAH WHAT THE HEEEELLLLLLLLL DAY FLI
@Allosaurus333 can you write that in proper english so I can understand?
Gigantism and dwarfism in marine mammalian species is fascinating. This monster is more than I can imagine, but how this happens makes me wonder if we are missing something important when these fossils get classified? Evolution aside; how did it get so big? The diet of such lifeforms must have been ravenous?
But in their cladogram of July 2010, they've updated it since.
Leviathan is the common name, but not the technically adequate name. The guys think it is the accurate technical name.
Detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region. Are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?
@pyroman1000k Thats the average size of megalodon and max size of leviatha. Newer estimates put it at 20.5 meters. Leviathan never reached 20 meters. Even the articles said they ranged from 13 to 18 meters max.
There is a similar skeleton on my sinai... Some guys doing some biblical search on Google maps found it a couple years back... The named it the same thing. But someone needs to go dig it up and compare the two species ...
That's one small step for man, one giant leap for evolution.
Actually, they lived about 10-5 mya not 13-12 so...nitpick!
Still, Livyatan's one of my favorite prehistoric whales and it would make a great opponent for Otodus megalodon.
@pyroman1000k I know but a 7 inch tooth would definately be from a 60 foot individual. 7 inches is about 2.8 times the size of a great whites' tooth but 60 feet is less than 2.8 times the size of the tooth so if it did have large teeth in comparison to body, it would be 60 feet at smallest for a Megallodon. I honestly don't think that it would have large teeth in relation to body size. It's more likely for it to have smaller teeth in comparison to body.
I see that the RUclips (I'm so original) algorithm has brought (so much thought went into this) us all together (never been said before) again.
No, there is one in at Canada's Wonderland called Leviathan. There is no such coaster at Six Flags Magic Mountain.
Livyatan is the name, not Leviathan. Leviathan is something else.
its gonna take long to finish tie bizz coz it just happend few months ago im so excited to hear alot from those
@Allosaurus333 Leviathan is 18 meters max. Normally only 13 meters
Is this the levyatan melvillei?
Yes, but the genus name was changed to *_Livyatan_* shortly after this video was made.
@pyroman1000k brygmophyseter also had teeth on upper and lower jaw.
In the Hebrew bible the leviathan is also stated as being a dragon, but what's strange is that in Hebrew, leviathan actually means whale. So yeah, perhaps a scaly whale?
In Hebrew, it means twisted or coiled.. not whale
I'm no scientist, but still, looking at the skull of an Orca compared to a Sperm Whale and this beast; I would say Livyatan was a prehistoric Orca, not a prehistoric Sperm Whale.
@pyroman1000k yeah i know that. a large meg would have 7 in. plus sized teeth... but unlike leviathan it would have had a much larger number of much more damaging teeth... as for the sperm whale, its hardly suited to engage large massive creatures. max size of meg is currently at 67 or so feet and 103 tons, about the same max size as a sperm whale (estimates for a sperm whale above 20 meters are now considered dubious or false) Meg had a huge number of teeth in a huge mouth, a deadlier bite
Is very nices that fossils you lake it is very intresting 😃
Leviathan mellevie is pretty cool 😎
Name was changed to Livyatan
Monstro the whale in real life
Great documentary, the teeth of Livyatan is insane. Megalodon along with Livyatan are the most massive and powerful marine predators that ever lived in our planet.
so your telling me a sperm whale swallows things as large as a giant squid and could easily swallow a human. HELL NO
Thing is, it simply wouldn't. We're far too small to satisfy its diet. Plus, it feeds on giant squid in deeper parts of the ocean, not necessarily anywhere that the casual beach-goer would be swimming.
InSaynt STILL, the fact that it is capable of doing so is quite disturbing.
HiZzen RekT DAMN NATURE YOU SCARY!!!
NO. Its esophagus isn't large enough.
Lol im dutch and i cringed so hard when he said utrecht like that
English is Dutch
@@darkfantasybrun5381 troll
@@Goregreet im not a troll
This monster can really rival Magelodon.
In the heart of the sea brought me here
@pyroman1000k seriously 13 meters to 15 meters? If the largest Megalodon tooth so far is 3 times the size of a great whites tooth what makes you think it couldn't have been 67 feet long? 60 feet is the smallest possible size for a shark with 7 inch teeth
you are a failure, just like the animal you defend, in the end this useless animal is nothing more than a slow and long animal and at most it would reach 10 meters
I bet this will be recommended to everyone 2 years later
Not sure if there is a coaster at Canada's Wonderland named Leviathan, but there's one with that name at Six Flags in LA.
Love to find a tooth like that on my local beach
By the way for all the people who doesn't know, this is talking about a Sperm Whale species ' *Livyatan* Melvillei' not 'Leviathan' from the bible
*_Leviathan_* was the first name given to that whale, but it was soon changed to *_Livyatan_* when the discoverers found out that Leviathan already was the so-called junior synonym of the genus _Mammut_ in the family Mammutidae, containing the rather primitive proboscideans known as *_mastodons._*
This is quite confusing since the true mammoths belong to the genus _Mammuthus_ in the family Elephantidae and are thus much closer related to modern elephants.
@pyroman1000k ... i just said that... do you even read what i write? i said a few vertebrae have been found... its not an imprint, and imprint like you suggested was that the cartilage skeleton of a meg was fossilized in mud etc etc and later found... an imprint of meg's skeleton.. and like i said above, vertebrae found can not be used for size estimates as there is only a few ever found and it is harder to estimate size from then as opposed to teeth, which there are a few equations on as of now
Let say the atmosphere in this era is enough for Megalodon and Livyatan's survival.. Would they be hunted down to extinction by men?
They went extinct before humans came
How come these fossils are in a museum in France?
@pyroman1000k hammerhead sharks do dig in sand for fish.
And if you did agree I would love for you to find Dr. Hovind's tapes talking about the leviathan
There are some people that found a similar skeleton in I think said I Arabia by using Google maps search...they were looking at some biblical sites and found a skull that they named the same thing...thrse guys should look up the you tube video and go dig it up...they called it the serpent or leviathan or satan or some biblical name they said they all meant the same thing ... Idk... But I do know the skeleton of the huge fish/ dino/ like serpent thong was near or on my sinai... Maybe it is the female and male who knows? I just think it is funny that there's guys do this for a living as scientists who believe in dinosaur age yet chose a biblical name for the creature...
@Ashterrs Well u have to look at the fact that they had a city up in the freaking mountains and it looks to high right now for us to be so freaking high, but maybe everything around it was water and has dried down with time.
I only inform the guys of the accurate name.
The taxonomic revision of Leviathan into Livyatan.
What I’d like to know is, where can you find Livyatan teeth? Megalodon teeth are easy to find, like beaches, diving in coastal areas and old ancient river beds, but where do you find Livyatan teeth? Is there any other place other than Perú? It seems their more rare than megalodon teeth.
Livyatan Melvillei was close match for normal megalodon, but large populations of female megalodons were on average size 15 to 16 meters long and weighed 40 to 50 tons. The most reasonable estimate for Livyatan Melvillei is 16 metres long, weighing 50 tons, and even the megalodon, which is 16 metres long, is enough to make Livyatan Melvillei feel the strain. So far, the reasonably largest megalodon is 20 to 21 meters long and weighs 90 to 100 tons, fully twice the size of Livyatan Melvillei, which is still no match for the large individual and the largest individual megalodon. At the same size and weight, Livyatan Melvillei already couldn't deal with megalodon anymore.
both of them ond have the largest and strongest jaws of any terrestrial animal that has ever lived on this planet maybe rivaled by the dunkleostus or mosasaurus or maybe not idk, plus there isnt a huge difference in 16 meters and 21 meters, and even if there is if you look at its jaw thickness at the teeth of the leviathan which are twice as long and are much thicker than the megalodons teeth, this thing wouldve only needed a single bite to kill any megalodon, and the same goes for a megalodon killing a leviathan
How did they estimate this though?all they have is teeth just teeth
@@Theguywhoasked9459 and fossilised vertebrae, they're rare though
@pyroman1000k And what was killing all these animals? Most of these victims didn't die of old age. You can tell what happened to it just by looking at the fossil
@oddXmanXout They just named it leviathan because it was so big and it sounded like a good name because the word leviathan means-anything of immense size and power . That in no way says that it was a descendant of the levaithan.
buenvideo meguusta las bayenas espesialmente leviata melviyeit todoslos dias beo ese tipodebideo ecselente
Olivier looks so cute. 😳😍😊
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You are intrepreting too much and reacting too much to the harmless use of a name. Watch the video above, they use it too.
And how was a paper updated?
@Allosaurus333 send me the website
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someday they should do a documentary about livyatan whens that gonna happen
Are they talking about Livyatan melvillei?
Leviathan would just have to bump that Megladon upside down. Game over.
what a funny joke. Its not that easy, the meg will bite the fin and skull, the livyatan can't move and drown. HAHAHA
@mjglader -Leviathan was described in detail in the Book of Job, and was clearly a (scaled) sea monster. In Psalms it had mulitiple heads. So until we discover a multiheaded sea dragon, this animal is as good a representation of Leviathan as any. Also, as the man in the video says, the name is more clearly a reference to the novel Moby Dick. So you disagree with how they named this whale, so what. When you discover something cool I'm sure you'll give it a very fitting name!
Very late addition to your answer lmao, but Leviathan and sea monsters similar to it from the regional mythologies were often associated with Whales due to their size too. Does make me wonder if the namers knew about that connection as well.
@@Lotan_ Dang, 10 years! I actually love getting replies to ancient comments I've made here. I honestly don't remember this video, I'm going to have to rewatch it when I get home.
@@jackkoffin1 A blast from the past :D It's definitely worth the rewatch,
No, you can perform that only on a shark smaller than you, and megalodon was certainly no smaller than Livyatan (not Leviathan, get some updates).
Yes you right man.
@Horrorlord1 But it would. Megalodon would have the expirience of fighting this whale in the video, which is roughly the same size as a Meg, not to mention expirience from fighting other Megs, and pack hunting Basilosaurus. Havent yah seen Jurassic Fight Club?
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Well u also have to look at the bible where the name originally comes from "Leviathan" and it was the most feared animal in the water serpent-like and it describe it as teeth so close to each other that air can not come between it, this might it been it.
whale can beat sharks and may be he can kill megaloden just like orcas kill great white
@Horrorlord1 Lol what about it? Its a common error to thing that Liopleurodon would be a match for megalodon. For starters, they lived millions of years appart, unlike this whale, and second, Megalodon was 10-15 ft larger, had a stronger bite, was probably faster, and had more developed sense of a shark.
RUclips, colossal squid 23 meters actual existence.
That's is just an angry perm whale.
Il problema... prima o poi verranno alla luce... creature più giganti di questi colossi... anche un leviatano più grande...😍
leviathan whale is the one whale i wont too see allmost in the world ^^
@pyroman1000k He never said anything about old being correct. He just said that they always thought it was big. Read the article about megalodon's size on wikipedia. Before saying something like it's inaccurate, the information there is basically a combination of all the things we know about it. It's reverted back to normal if someone changes it and the things they add are inaccurate. Actually read the whole page
@Allosaurus333 It's the original.
@pyroman1000k an orca can't produce a serious wound on a 12-15 meter whale.. a sperm whale have a huge layer of blubber that must be overcome, an orca's jaw is not that impressive to puncture veins in an adult sperm whale, a cub maybe. you should link to the vid showing that incident-
as for the playing point, whats your point? we're discussing orca's ability to take on a full grown meg, i just ment to say that orca's usually feed on seals and small whales like dolphins etc
the holotypes upper estimate based on zygophyseter is 17,5m, and it was the one with the 36cm teeth. 40cm teeth would belong to something bigger than that, to use the same ratio what´s likely as the teeth are so huge that the holotype would rather have had large teeth as far as individual variation goes, 19,4m. and the largest megalodon tooth was 19,4cm, even it being vastly restored, and would not belong to something bigger than that except when using speculative figures for the ratio.
@pyroman1000k ... the orca killed a young great white, 3 meter if memories serve... again you show little knowledge beyond the general incident... and many believe meg were at least somewhat related to great white and its kin, which have live babies... a meg's infant would be 4 meters long i believe.
@pyroman1000k If it was 43 feet, it's teeth would appear gigantic and probably wouldn't even fit in that little jaw.
The "technical name"?...
They use it even in their cladogram, I don't see why you are getting rude when someone uses it in a comment.
This whale lived at the same time and in the same seas as the infamous megalodon and would clearly rip it to pieces!
Megalodon would easily crush the skull of livyatan. Livyatan is a noob compare to megalodon. Except the livyatan go in pods, livyatan will win.
@@inayachan2949 yet a single orca can take on a great white. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened with livyatan and megalodon
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul orca is a dolphin, livyathan is a pure whale. And the bite force beetwen megalodon and livyathan is too far and they re on the same size, while the great white and orca isn't just fair, orca have bigger bite and bigger size. The fair fight only happen when megalodon fight a pack of livyathan (probably megalodon lose xD)
@@inayachan2949 and dolphins are toothed whales, like livyatan
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul but Livyathan is on the whale, not the dolphin, probably its a bit slower. Livyathan tooth is only long, but the mouth pressure is small, so thats why the bite isn't that terrifying as megalodon
Orcas or killer whales are not whales they are Part of the Dolphin family
They are
@pyroman1000k a long and compared to body size thin jaw is not suited to hold onto a 100 ton animal thrashing about. scientists here suggest it fed on small to medium sized baleen whales which are 6-9 meters i believe and 3-10 tons in weight. in the water, the whale would have to contain its prey's entire weight, as opposed to land where weight is dispersed where it stands, a t'rex never had to contain the entire weight of its prey in its jaws, leviathan's jaws is unsuited for large game.
2:21 thats what i found in my bathroom at 5 AM when i waked up to take a piss
and no, just because their teeth were so large, does not mean their bite force was so strong. their biteforce was only about 33k, while the megalodon’s was 42k.
They were not living in the same time, the sperm whale survived but has reduced in size such the same way humans are no longer 30 ft. Tall like in the time of the specimen
Imagine I discover a range of hills measuring 10,000' above sea level, and then I name them 'The Himalayas'. So it is with this guy discovering a bigger sperm whale then calling it Leviathan -_-