How Does "If" Work? The Semantics of Conditionals

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  • Опубликовано: 5 мар 2019
  • What's in our minds when we throw an if/then sentence out there? How do we work out what worlds we may be talking about? In this week's episode, we talk about the semantics of conditionals: what an "if" looks like logically, why a simple logical arrow isn't enough to capture the complexities of conditionals, and how we change what possibilities we allow ourselves to think of based on what our "if" clause holds.
    This is Topic #95!
    This week's tag language: Kyrgyz!
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    Sources:
    The theory of conditionals here dates back to Kratzer's 1986 paper "Conditionals," which is where that quote at the end comes from: semanticsarchive.net/Archive/T...
    The idea of if-clauses as restrictors actually goes back to David Lewis' 1975 paper "Adverbs of Quantification," which you can find here: www.andrewmbailey.com/dkl/Adve....
    The presentation was based mostly on some of the usual semantic suspects:
    web.mit.edu/fintel/fintel-heim...,
    Seth Cable's course notes: people.umass.edu/scable/LING62...
    schoubye.org/teaching/Formal-S....
    Crucial inspiration also from here books.google.ca/books?id=1NwWD... , in a chapter by Ilaria Frana titled "Modality in the Nominal Domain: The Case of Adnominal Conditionals."
    There's also a series of videos on RUclips that explores the topic from a more philosophical point-of-view, and arrives at a different conclusion, but might still be of interest, starting here: • PHILOSOPHY - Language:...
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    Looking forward to next time!

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    I graduated from undergrad linguistics in 2015 and then moved onto something else; I remember that in second year semantics, we covered the "first-order logic" explanation of "if/then", and then in third year, we did extensional semantics, with one week of intensional semantics introduced at the end. You just took me past that, at least in the ways relevant to explaining conditional statements, in like 12 minutes. Thank you and congrats!

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  • @Lunsterful
    @Lunsterful 5 лет назад +1

    Good video, I need to watch it again, because I still don't understand how a predicate being false, leads to the whole sentence evaluating to true. I'm assuming it's because the IF works like an OR disjunction in propositional logic.
    Is IF really OR in disguise? The Venn diagrams seem to suggest so. But I could be wrong, it's 3am here

    • @cavalrycome
      @cavalrycome 5 лет назад +1

      Sort of. In propositional logic, "IF A THEN B" (A -> B) is equivalent to "(NOT A) OR B" (¬A v B).

    • @Lunsterful
      @Lunsterful 5 лет назад

      @@cavalrycome That's it, thank you! It still doesn't make sense why it works that way. Outside of logic, my intuition for an IF statement, is that it implies something that must be true for what follows to be possibly true.

    • @cavalrycome
      @cavalrycome 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@Lunsterful I agree, it's intuitively clear how to evaluate it when the antecedent is true, but if you want to have a logical operator that also has a truth value when the antecedent is false, you have to make a decision about how to fill in the rest of the truth table (i.e., the rows that covers that circumstance) and someone at some point arbitrarily decided to assign those rows "true".
      A B | A -> B
      1 1 | 1 (intuitive)
      1 0 | 0 (intuitive)
      0 1 | 1 (needed for completeness)
      0 0 | 1 (needed for completeness)

  • @Mark-ko8sc
    @Mark-ko8sc 4 года назад +1

    Do you have a degree in linguistics or foreign languages and literatures ? Or did you study those things by yourself ?

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  • @JoshuaHillerup
    @JoshuaHillerup 5 лет назад

    This is super pedantic since it's in a different area of study from linguistics, but you're statement about how logicians use if/implication is generally true for classical logic, but not all logics. Paraconsistent logic for instance is explicitly designed to express these other meanings of "if".

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