This Pipe Blend DESTROYED Me!
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Fillmore didnt do that to me. However, to anyone reading this, SUGAR. as soon as you feel the nic sick, get sugar into your system asap. Spoonfuls of sugar, honey or drink a coke fast. If you wait too long, you might puke.
Maybe a bad batch
I find that my nicotine tolerance is rather inconsistent (regardless of a full stomach or having sugar nearby, I always smoke with both of those boxes checked.) Sometimes I will smoke a whole cigar without feeling anything, other times I have a small bowl of mild virginia and my head starts swimming. Same with caffeine, sometimes I will drink coffee throughout the day, and other times one cup makes me feel sick and anxious for hours. I've learned the best strategy is just to pay attention to your body, normally you can catch these things before they get too out of hand. Cheers!
I am ordering a tin now.
G.L. Pease = Legend
Makes me want to try it lol. I love pipes, but smoke cigars more, I never smoke a cigar on an empty stomach and always have a spoonful of honey before I light up. Nicotine sickness really sucks and this seems to prevent it every time.
Honey is perfect in this situations. Boosts both the mood and your energy in under a minute. It's also antibacterial and anti-inflammatory. ✌🏻
Ooh, first!
I haven't had any Fillmore lately. I have had that feeling with other blends, like Peterson Perfect, Plug, 1792 Flake. One actually got me dry heaving.
This particular tin of Fillmore is the only one that's ever gotten me this badly!
@@stuffandthingsyoutube that's really strange. Makes you wonder if they had a bad batch. Sounds like other people on here experienced something similar. Might be worth contacting GL Pease or Cornell and Diehl.
Dark Fired Kentucky does this to me every time
I have a tin of Fillmore, yet to be opened, and now I'm wondering if keeping it sealed is the better choice. Regarding your severe reaction, I absolutely feel your pain: 1792 Flake proved to be well beyond what my system could tolerate and I experienced the symptoms identical to yours, including..............."that" one. I not only couldn't enjoy 1792 Flake again, I had to put the pipe down entirely for a couple of days: "A burned child fears the fire."
Always keep chocolate on hand. I don’t know why, but nic hits seem to be corrected with pieces of it.
It could’ve been a bad batch, age could have enhanced the nic level, I dunno. War Horse destroys me, but I still love the blend (with a Hershey bar or chocolate Kisses on standby)
The chocolate is a good tip. It can fix you up.
Yeah I've tried chocolate for the nic hit and it did help.
Nicotine can lower blood glucose levels in some people. That's why chocolate, or a glass of milk helps.
"Eat this, you'll feel better."
I've been following your channel almost from the beginning, and consider you an almost brother of sorts, so it pains me to admit how amused I was by your retelling of this experience! Reminded me of the poor guy from Arkansas trying to get through a review of Gawith's Brown No. 5! Like when a buddy takes one to the cookies in gymn class. 😂 We are so muchvalike in hating that feeling of losing control. Worst tobacco experience like that for me was a strong Padron cigar on an empty stomach. But I managed (carefully) Brown No. 5 just fine. So sorry for your pain, but thanks so much for sharing!😉
Mine was a padron as well! Haha
I've had most of the "strongest" blends with no ill effect, but this... yikes.
I don't think I've ever experienced anything quite like this...though I must admit I've been made light headed and a touch woozy by products containing nicotine from time to time. Some have speculated on that particular tin being particularly N-strong for whatever reasons but I wonder if that's actually the case. What I suspect instead is that one's own physiology can vary so much from week to week, and day to day, that anyone could, in theory, experience this given the right constellation of conditions on any given day.
The only blends I tend to have that kind of reaction with are Mac Baren's Bold Kentucky or Old Dark Fired, other than that I'm usually fine with nicotine. I do however fully agree with your opinion on feeling "altered," I absolutely hate that feeling. I hate not being in control of myself, which is why I don't use drugs, don't like medications stronger than extra strength Tylenol, and why I don't drink. I just don't enjoy that feeling.
I have been burning thru Old Dark Fired with a quickness. But with Bourbon to balance it out! I have three empty tins already.
I'm the same way. Years ago a friend of mine talked me into smoking a joint with him, and I think it must have been laced with something because I lost total control of my legs or my ability to focus. I was literally stuck for about 30 minutes. I eventually got myself together and left. That was 25 years ago and I haven't touched the stuff since.
I pulled off a piece of burley leaf that was hanging in a barn and chewed it when I was about 10 or so and it did the same thing to me.
I’ve not heard Fillmore mentioned in lists of strongest tobaccos, so I’m intrigued. I’m pretty convinced nothing is going to top HH Rustica, though, although Coniston Cut Plug is a close second. I do love them, but was a little let down by the potency of Dark Bird’s Eye, Happy Brown Bogie sliced (Brown Twist), and Kendal Dark. I do have some Dark Flake unscented on the way, so we’ll see about that one! Thanks, Bradley!
I have had it MANY times and never had that reaction to it before. I think it was just an odd tin.
I never had anything comparable. I actually love the hard nic hits. This is why I quit regular smoking cigarettes very quickly. No sense in it. You don't get the hit, if your body expects it. ;) So I have to try this one. ;)
It's probably not due to the blend, but the tobacco inside that tin. Something must have happened in the production process, because having such a strong reaction to nicotine in general isn't usual. I've had similar experiences, but that was after doing two huge bong hits in a row containing Pueblo tobacco (and something else, but that's beside the point) first thing in the morning, and it lasted only about 5-10 minutes. I usually enjoy nicotine, but excessive amounts is no fun at all.
Nope. No fun at all!
M&M’s work very good for me!
@@stuffandthingsyoutubeyou might've also been a bit dehydrated.
Not with the GL but a similar experience with War Horse. Lit it up, everything was fine. Loved the room note and taste but, like you, something was creepy up on me and pretty soon I had all the symptoms that you experienced, including that run to the bathroom. I remembered a piece of advice about having a piece of chocolate that would help settle things down, and it worked. The WH has been cellared for a year now and if I ever get brave again I might give it another go, but not in the near future.
I smoked some Fillmore about the time you were doing your "replacement for Elizabethan" quest, and enjoyed it. Never had that kind of reaction to it, never seemed any stronger than Elizabethan. I have on occasion had a blend I was familiar with hit me hard (HH Bold Kentucky, for example), but never anywhere near that hard! I guess it's good to pay attention to how a newly opened tin of anything effects you in the first few puffs - even those things that you're very familiar with. 🙂
As a tobacco chewer turned piper for 10 years I could probably eat that tin and go out on the town for a pint.
I had this reaction recently to a tin of Capstan Blue. I think it’s important to remember that while C&D blend this stuff to maintain consistency of flavor, mouthfeel etc, tobacco is an organic product and there will be variations due to region/climate/processing. If I might make a suggestion, give your body a little time to recover and try a completely different tin and see how you feel. Love the channel!
We must remember humans are organic. At least most of them.
Cheers!
Sorry you went through that. Glad you are ok now. The person who said it was probably a bad batch was probably in target.
I would note the tin date and contact C&D to see if others in addition to your audience have had a similar experience . Hopefully not, but if they have, I would think the good people at C&D would want to know.
For me it was when I tried Royal Yacht. I don’t really feel anything other than the normal focused relaxation, but when I tried that it made me so sick that I never touched it again
See everyone's different,, I can't handle dark flakes for whatever reason,,, I get sweaty and ill,, but I can smoke Royal Yacht with no problem..
RY hasn't made me ill yet, but it makes my ears ring mid-bowl! A decent amount of vitamin N in that one.
Summer, 1985. I was 18 years-old and enjoying my first cigar, and it was a good one -- a Hoya de Monterey. Smoked it on an empty stomach, and spent a long time on a cool bathroom floor. But, I enjoyed the taste so much that I couldn't wait to try it again on a full stomach, and that went great.
The only pipe tobacco that gave me a hint of this was one I tried because of YOUR positive review -- G.L. Pease Triple Play. I tried it several times but never made it through a bowl. It tasted like stomach contents, and I caught the beginnings of the symptoms you describe and stopped in time. That tin resides forever in a landfill in central Nebraska.
Haha! Thanks for sharing!
Happened to me a few times with some stronger blends and it’s such a bad feeling. I can relate to feeling like you can’t even get out of the seat. Made me lie on the bathroom floor until it ran its course.
Autumn Evening did that to me some years back. I was out on my porch smoking it and I got lit up! I was dizzy, pale and sweating. I went and laid on my bed sideways on my stomach lol. C&D Chocolate Cavendish did that to me as well, and I was driving a rig!
@@englishmanpipesmoker3425 yikes! That sounds like it could have gone very badly
Had that happen with mad fiddler flake. Horrible feeling of laying on the couch holding on for dear life. Haven't had fillmore in years, wasn't overly impressed so I never bought it again
What you're describing is more or less what happens to me with dark flakes..
I smoke high nicotine blends all the time Royal Yacht lots of it,, Nightcap so forth,, but if it's a dark flake I'm gonna get sweaty and light headed,, not as bad as you but I'm gonna feel bad.
So I avoid them now..
Some of my favorites are no go's now,, Marlin Flake for one..
This is an interesting video. Late last year I smoked Pease Union Square and had a bad reaction. I’ve been smoking a pipe for 50+ years and got sick from burleys, almost to the point of driving the porcelain bus, and obviously avoid them. Union Square is all Virginia and I had it many previous times and used to love it. I wonder if there may be something in the some of the Virginias in his blends.
Interesting theory!
lol i've driven the porcelain bus myself a few times, not gonna lie... (" -.-)
You’re likely too young to remember the source of that term. It’s from the National Lampoon back in the 70s in a parody of vomiting, and also used “ technicolor yawn”, and “round trip meal ticket”. Back when there was real humor and no one was “ offended”.
A Nic rush is always awful. Happens to me on occasions and I have trouble identifying what it might be in my blend. I blend my own and therefore I cannot reasonably tell what T might be causing it. Does not happen when mixing my ingredients in another form, to out the culprit. Could be me though. 😅
Reminds me of when I had a JFR Lunatic cigar. The nicotine smacked the mess out of me. I was fairly new to cigars and pipes at the time too
Once in a while, I get the nicups (hiccups). This tells me I have injested somehow too much nicotine. I know this doesn't make sense, but it's the only thing I can think of. I do not inhale either. Usually, this happens if I smoke too often or towards the end of a bowl when I probably should have just dumped it.
I've not had Fillmore myself, but I have suffered nicotine overload. I've had this happen from the same tin of my regular blend which doesn't ever bother me. These instances were usually (and somewhat ironically) attributable to stress, exhaustion or prior to an illness such as the flu that I was unaware had already been incubating. While there is certainly some possible merit to other notions, such as inconsistency of organic compounds, my experiences can almost unequivocally be attributed to the aforementioned.
WRONG!
Look at your pipe engineering.
All forges that have an air pipe installed at the bottom of the fire pit get clogged up with ash and burning cinders.
Blow pipes require you to blow into them.
You don't suck on blow pipes.
Fires 🔥 exhaust vertically.
You don't sick the fire into your lungs.
But, you foolishly did and still do today.
I'm not surprised you ruined yourself.
In about 25 years of off-and-on pipe smoking, that’s only happened me that bad once. Cold sweats, ghost-white face, extreme dizziness, everything you described. I had to immediately lie down(could only make it to the couch) and I actually passed out from it for about 4 hours. Felt fine when I woke up, but was soaked in sweat and felt like I lost an entire day.
It was GH dark flake (unscented). That’s actually considered a medium strength blend, but it contains Dark Fired. DF blends work me over pretty hard, but this was insane. Almost like it was laced with something.
Haha! I'm glad I didn't lose consciousness! ;-)
I smoke a lot of Greg’s blends and have never had this happen. It’s been a while since I smoked Fillmore, but I do know what you are talking about. Over the years I typically gravitate to the Latakia blends, especially at nighttime. One night not too long ago, I got about halfway through a bowl of Nightcap and I thought I too was about to die. Nicotine overdose is the absolute worst, and sometimes it just happens. Even to those of us that have been smoking for a long time.
When that feeling started to happen to me, I'd use something sugary. A soda tends to work for me. This is the only thing I don't miss from smoking. It rarely happened to me, but it did, and it sucks.
Oh yeah that’s a horrible feeling... it has happened to me tree times, the first time was in the middle of the day, and I had to go to work feeling horribly dizzy. Usually, I can feel it start and then I just put down my pipe, but it can definitely catch you off guard. If it ever happens to you again I suggest eating something sweet and laying dawn in place with fresh air.
Man, nicotine sick is just the worst. I've had it one or two times smoking cigars. I've read that eating something with lots of sugar, like a piece of chocolate, helps alleviate it once it starts kicking in. I've smoked back to back bowls of Brown No. 4 and didn't have anything more than a noticeable head rush, though I've always had a high nicotine tolerance. When I tried introducing my cig puffing friend to pipes, I gave him some Irish Flake to try out. I guess he was inadvertently inhaling because he couldn't finish the bowl due to getting sick, lol. I tell people that getting nicotine from pipe smoking isn't anything like cigarettes. If you are getting a cigarette-like nicotine rush from a pipe, chances are you're about to experience Bradley's bad night if you don't stop.
It's always cigars for me, bug reason why I don't really smoke them.
It's so rare for me (I have a high tolerance), that I didn't notice the signs of impending nicotine sickness until it was too late!
My first cigar was like that. Imagine trying to walk an hour home from a party during winter in this condition.
I think(!) I notice sometimes that the nicotine levels change between tins - one tin seems to be fine and the next gives me the first few signs of nicotine sickness within ten minutes (nightcap, I think? Both peterson). I always smoke at the same time in the evening and always after dinner.
The last few times I've had problems with nicotine, I got myself a spoon of sugar and felt better within a few minutes or so. A quick google suggests that that may not be the best idea in general and it could be placebo.
Thanks for sharing!
Fillmore made you feel more 🤔 I had a tin years ago and thought it to be just an average blend without much to offer but this review is making me want to try again 😂
It's never done this to me before, so I'm not sure if you'd be able to replicate it with a different tin!
_"Feel more with Fillmore!"_
/music plays
LOL!! I coincidentally just ordered a tin of the G.L. Filmore. I'll have to watch my step and sip slowly and sparingly.😅
I have had that happen while smoking GL Pease Gaslight before. Other blends have never had that effect on me, however I have had that exact feeling a couple of time with some types of Swedish Snus.
I have never had this with a pipe, but it's the one thing I don't like about cigars. I try to get my blood sugar up with some dried figs before and during a smoke. Has made this much less frequent, but every now and then a cigar will still floor me.
I’ve only had that happen maybe once or twice that I recall. A few months ago I got the dizzy sweats from Marlin Flake that I’ve had jarred since 2012. It had never done that to me before and it had been a pretty normal day. I tried it again about a week later paying close attention to my pace & condition. All was fine. All I can think is maybe I accidentally inhaled some the day I got sick. I was at my work bench when I got sick. Pipe clenched kind of breath smoking or lightly sipping nearly every breath. I’ve smoked MF several times since this incident without any trouble but I do find myself being more cautious.
I've been enjoying pipes and cigars regularly for about 9 years now. And I'm not a lightweight when it comes to nicotine, having dabbled in dip and cigarettes (Camel nonfiltered and nonfiltered Lucky Strikes).
And I have found, in the rare occasions I get a nicotine buzz/sickness, have all been very random. And they seemingly happen out of nowhere, despite having a full belly, feeling healthy, etc.
I think it's just whatever strange stars align in your body, and is something pretty out of ones control.
But when this does happen, try eating a tablespoon of sugar. It helps to metabolize the nicotine and counters its effects. And drinking cold water slowly helps with the nausea.
Had a very similar reaction after a bowl of MM 965. Nausea, cold sweats - felt awful. Had to lie down for 30 minutes or so. Haven’t touch MM 965 since.
That MM 965 is pretty rough. I had 1 tin of it and every time I smoked it I would definitely get a little woozy but never to the point of losing my lunch.
I had the same reaction with 965 last week, I thought I was pacing myself pretty well too!
The “Captain Earle Challenge,” as I call it, will do that to me. It’s where you start with Nightwatch, then Stimulus Package and then Ten Russians - in a row with no breaks. :)
If you ever get the green feeling....some sugar water will help get rid of the sick feeling
I got nic sickness about ten years ago. Smoked a Churchill sized Romeo Y Julieta 1875 Reserva Real on an empty stomach. I was a new cigar/pipe smoker at the time. Huge mistake!
Well, once I had similar reaction to the Amphora Virginia blend. Maybe, that's because I hadn't smoked pipe for a couple of days before it.
To overcome this condition you need to increase access to oxygen: drink enough water and breathe fresh air. I also recommend eating something sweet to raise your blood glucose level, which is lowered by nicotine.
Wish you good health.
Ugh man, I'm so sorry you got such a horrible case of nicotine sickness! I've never gotten quite that sick from a blend before, but I did once get a tin of G&H Ennerdale Flake that absolutely knocked me on my butt after 20 minutes of puffing away and made me feel a little green around the gills with the sensation that the room was spinning. It didn't make me toss my cookies, but I came awful close a few times and had to spend the next couple hours laying back in bed and sipping water until I recovered.
Ennerdale is one of my absolute favorite blends and doesn't typically hit me that hard, but I think even highly experienced blenders can still slip up and let an extra potent batch sneak through quality control now and then.
It pretty much NEVER happens to me no matter how strong the blend, which is why I was so shocked!
I've smoked Fillmore off and on since it was first released by GLP and I've never experienced what happened to you. I don't really seek out high nic blends like Ten Russians and I agree with your original review/assessment that Fillmore is pretty much a medium strength blend. Every now and then, though, I will experience a noticeably stronger smoke than usual from a blend--pretty much a variance that you'd expect from an organic product like tobacco--but, again, not to the extent that you experienced. I'd wager another tin of the exact same blend would smoke normally.
I'll definitely have to get another tin to try soon.
This is the proof that it´s a question of time for anyone to experiment this feeling.
I’ve been sucker punched by a tobacco like you’re talking about while I was driving. I was able to get home, but I sat in the car for about 30 minutes before I got up on my feet again. I’ve smoked it since then and it didn’t bother me. Weirdness
Fillmore is one of my favorites, although my roommate told me it smells like parmesan out of the tin. Now I can't unknow that and no it's pretty strange every time I go back to it. Hahaha😂
A lovely leisurely smoke indeed! (as their tin description would say)
SG Black XX Twist Rope did the same to me. Horrible feeling.
They will sell more than ever now. Lol
Sounds like my first Cuban Cigar..😂
I'm sorry that this happened to you.
Anyone think about pesticide/rodenticide residue? I know T has natural pesticides however, I was just curious..
Oh man... Cuban cigars. That brings back some memories. Yeah, decent kick on those Romeo y Julietas!
Reminds me of an evening in college in the ‘90s, when my friends & I drove up to Niagara Falls, Canada, to get Cuban cigars. We all got Cubans & promptly got kicked out of a bar from all the cigar smoke we were producing. We didn’t want to waste those fine cigars, so we drove around smoking in the car. It was January & freezing out, so we had the windows mostly rolled up. All four of us got sicker than dogs & we had to pull over to barf several times on the way back to PA!
Haha! I survived!
Prince Albert did that to me the very first time that I smoked it.
Hm, I have had that reaction to Mac Baren’s Old Dark Fired. My solution use a small pipe, and keep a sweet milk and tea handy. Nicotine overdose ugh.
I haven't had that blend but recently i smoked a Cuban Partagas Serie D #6 Its a tiny 3.5 inch by 50 ring cigar. I've smoked many cigars before with no problems but i kid you not i only got an inch into this one if that and i felt exactly how you're describing. Really shakey, heart pounding, tight throat, pale white. I ate a couple lindt chocolates and after a few minutes it calmed down. But man i know the feeling and its not a good one at all. Like you i also like to feel totally in control of myself, i don't do anything other than smoke cigars and my pipe and all it does is slightly relax me. This was not a relaxing experience though. When this happens i believe it is considered nicotine poisoning.
The only time I've ever had that happen is after a bowl of Elizabethan first thing in the morning. I'm kind of a nic lightweight admittedly. I've only had one tin of Fillmore about 5 years ago.I remember not being overly impressed and I could feel the effects of the nic, but not that severe..
I used to work at a tobacconist with a smoking room and some of our customers had reactions like yours to stronger cigars if they were inexperienced. We offered them something sweet to drink or a chocolate bar which usually helped pretty well.
My personal nicotine tolerance is very unpredictable. I've had reactions to fairly mild pipe tobaccos or cigarillos, yet I can smoke Nightcap in the morning and almost feel nothing. Haven't figured out the variables yet and I'm a pipe smoker for over 20 years now (and was a cigarette smoker as well until 2020). It's odd.
I had this experience with night cap about 5 months ago... I wonder if it's the tin or the blend itself i smoked cigarettes for a long time quit moved to cigars then recently just picked up pipe smoking. Recommend any english blends ? Lower nicotine
@@BoringDroneProduction If you can lay your hands on it, I'd recommend Squadron Leader by Samuel Gawith. Very smooth and balanced and below medium nicotine level. Here in Germany SG tobaccos are hard to come by at the moment.
Former Dunhill, now Peterson My Mixture 965 and Standard Mixture are also excellent Latakia Blends with mild to medium nicotine levels.
If you're into Oriental forward blends or want to try one: I'm a fan of Rattray's Red Rapparee.
Oh, and Vintage Latakia from the HH series by MacBaren is also top notch! It even has a very tolerable to pleasant room note imo. To avoid confusion: this one has no Orientals in it, just Latakia and Virginia and a little Burley apparently (which I don't really can taste tbh but I have an old tin).
Hope that helps a little. :-)
I haven't had that from smoking recently but a few years ago i used to obtain nicotine pods that were like 50mg+. I would get a very definite reaction to those and i have to say i enjoyed it. I must be in the minority judging from the comments!
Damn, son! That was a shocker. I think some of the other listeners are on a promising track, with comments about tobacco crops differing from year to year. But the question is: WHICH tobacco are we talking about? If it is a blend of Virginias, which leaf? And the Perique is a whole other matter. Russ Ouelette told me that the leaf used in Perique, a strain of Burley, is not extraordinarily high in N, but the fermentation it undergoes potentiates its own N and the N content of any T that is blended with it. And Russ ought to know. I've never had a reaction to a T anything like what you described, and I'm glad of it! But like you, drugs never held any attraction for me. An ample Martini is mind-altering enough for me. And I think I'll get altered now. Great show today!
Cheers! It's always been my understanding as well that the Perique in VA/Pers is what gives most of them their kick.
@@stuffandthingsyoutube Bradley, I might be closing in on your Filmore problem. Today, I received a package from Smokingpipes, containing some Cornell and Diehl Red Odessa. It's an English blend that contains a bunch of red Virginia and a small amount of Perique. Five puffs in, my throat began to close up. Never had that happen before! I didn't continue with the pipe, but looked at the contents of Fillmore. Red Virginia and Perique. And I doubt Cornell and Diehl uses a different red Virginia for GL Pease blends. I bought several other C & D blends in the order. We shall see! Tom
I’ve had that with some cigars, but most of the pipes I’ve had have been mellow
That sounds horrible. Filmore has often given me a lump in the throat, as an advanced warning, and I just stop smoking.
Picked up a 2oz tin of this couple week. I have smoked quite a bit of it with no issues. I am pretty new to pipe smoking, but a long time cigarettes (16 years) and cigar smoker. I also vaped for a long time too. I have a pretty high tolerance to nicotine like you. I can smoke several bowls in a row of full english blends with little to now issues. So, sounds like you might have gotten an off batch. I know the feeling well, and its straight awful. Nicotine poisoning is one the worst feelings in the world.
Btw had similar body reaction on mac baren hh rustica in very small bowl😃
Try it again some other time Bradley, maybe it was a fluke? Maybe this batch was more fermented also. I never smoked fillmore, but I do get dizzy out of the sudden with light blends like OGS
The whole tin was MUCh stronger than I remembered it being years before. Curious to know if an entire recent batch was this way.
maybe it was laced with something. Or it some kind of an error in the making process of this specific tin
I imagine that if a blend is made in large batches, or contain lots of different types of tobacco, and the batch is mixed well, that would even out inconsistencies of nicotine level. If Fillmore was made in small batches, or not mixed adequately, then a single Armageddon-grade leaf might end up spiking a small number of tins?
I've never had this happen before. That's wild.
I think you got a spiked tin. Like something inadvertent in the blending process just supercharged the nic content. That's the only thing that makes sense. I'm a former cigarette smoker, like you, and I always thought we had a higher nicotine tolerance than non-cigarette smokers. But maybe not. I remember once firing up a Cuban Romeo y Julieta corona that was gifted to me by a friend who'd picked it up in Spain, and I fired it up as a "breakfast smoke" before food or anything, and it blew my head off, but not in a sick way, just with massive strength and flavor that I wasn't expecting. That cigar shouldn't have yielded such an experience, and a tobacconist whom I trust said that sometimes the rollers will spike a blend to their own liking just for fun, LOL! Now I'm really tempted to give Filmore a try!
I've had most of the vaunted "strongest blends" without breaking a sweat, and I've had multiple tins of Fillmore in the past without any reaction. It's a puzzler.
Brairworks Back Down South destroyed me and my best friend. I've only ever been that sick after smoking twice, once with BDS and once with a cigar.
I keep that jar of BDS because it's fun to remember, but I'll never smoke it again because it was just the worst experience.
I had a similar reaction once but it was when a girl I had a huge crush on came up and started talking to me. 😂
Mama told you not to smoke!….haha
Maybe that was Hunters tin. 😵💫 Send a sample to a lab.
I actually had the same reaction from a tin of Filmore that a friend of mine sent me. I threw the tin away. I have smoked a couple of other blends and no issues.
Interesting!
LOL, I do not like that feeling. About six or seven years ago Autumn Evening did that to me. I was a cigarette smoker for 25 years before I quit about 12 years ago, and I smoked Lucky Strikes straights! I was driving a truck on the P.A. Turnpike a while back and I was smoking C&D Chocolate Cavendish in my Grabow Omega and BAM!! I was sweating the cab of the truck started spinning, was looking for a bag before I puked all over the dashboard! LMAO! I had to pull over man. It's weird because I put down a pound of Pegasus and crap loads of Gawith Hoggarth flakes with no problem, but those two blends I mentioned, they F me up!
I had smoked 3 days ago and felt good at all! I smoked with Pipe Castello Trade Mark KKKK Model 55 Pot , I loaded full bowl and only smoke half cause I felt full, haha!
I don't really know what my nicotine tolerance is. I've smoked cigars for years and recently got into smoking a pipe as well. I regularly smoke Elizabethan with coffee on an empty stomach and have heard a few people say they've gotten hit hard by it. I guess we're all different, but I wish there was a blend that would get me a buzz every now and again.
Hi, it could be that they have a new batch of tobacco leaves to mix the blend. It could be that some of these leaves have not been prepared well and have a strong amount of nicotine left in them, or contain a substance that reacts badly with your body. This happens, maybe try letting the blend sit for a while and maybe after a month come back to it and see. I have a very similar experience with Cabbies mixture. One tin was perfect, the second one stung my tongue in a way that made me nauseous. Like I said, it could be immature leaves or poorly prepared leaves.
Hard to say for sure!
This happened to me the first time I tried 1792 flake.
1792 Flake did me. Using a Savinelli churchwarden because although I enjoy the occasional bowl I prefer small bowls that I don't have to force myself to finish. Loaded up, got about 2/3 through the bowl and then the worst hiccups ever and my ears popped and my head started spinning like I'd necked a bottle of Southern Comfort.
I think it's pretty difficult to test how much nicotine is in tobacco unlike #420 which you ask your bud tender for a certain % level of THC. I've smoked twist and ropes but that one batch of 1792 is still stashed in the cupboard and I will use it as a condiment in the future.
A teaspoon or 2 of sugar can help
As a medical doctor, I found your description of a nicotine hit quite precise for everyone of us who love pipe smoking. I bought just following your advice two cans of Fillmore three years ago and I hadn’t at all this uncomfortable inconvenient and I’m not an expert smoker as you. I have no experience but the tolerance to different ingredients of the blend might vary in anyone of us. Happy Christmas to everyone!!
Merry Christmas!
Well, as a blacksmith, It's obvious to me that 98% of pipe smokers have no clue what they're doing with smoking a pipe.
They suck like they're superman 🦸♀️ instead of doing the opposite.
There's NO reason for installing a tiny blow pipe at the bottom of the fire pit, if you intend to SUCK on it.
Logic should tell you that fires 🔥 create ash.
Ash falls into the tiny pipe at the bottom.
You should ALL have the blow pipe installed into the SIDE of the fire 🔥 pit.
A pipe at the bottom requires BLOWING AIR INTO THE FIRE 🔥 PIT.
I'm not surprised that your fires die with your wrong technique of sucking the fire into the forge.
If you're sucking pipes then you should just go back to cigars.
You're getting NO BENEFIT by sucking on miniature pipes.
You BLOW into a pipe and get rid of impurities out the fire pit, and slightly draw in with your natural reaction to blowing air.
You've never bothered to educate yourself about blow pipe pipes.
I’m glad I’m not the only one!!! I got the same experience as you did with Fillmore. I am very gun shy now as well, only smoke it in tiny bowls. It’s a great tasting blend but just doesn’t agree with me. I can smoke the nicotine big hitters such as Irish flake, Elizabethan, gawith 1792, salty dogs etc. with no where near the same reaction as Fillmore.
Interesting!
Their Burley Flake number 3 made me physically sick. Fillmore did not but it has been years. So I suppose I shouldn’t have bothered responding haha. Sorry man
the first time i tried Haunted Book shop it did the exact same thing to me lmao
I had a tin of gaslight that would do this to me. I believe a small area of the plug just contained a super high amount of nicotine. This gaslight tin is the only tin that has gotten me as badly as you describe here. I did find that when I rubbed out and thoroughly mixed the tin the nicotine hit was subdued a little. The damage was done though and now I have a mild aversion to gaslight. I try to avoid plugs (and sometimes even crumble cakes) in general now because of this issue. No Gawith flake or cake has ever bit me like this.
That's a shame! Gaslight is so good! But I do understand the aversion.
It can be due to some change in the source of tobacco or something like the mood swings I have been experiencing for a month. I suddenly don't like Latakia anymore. GH Squadron leader has always been my fav but I cant smoke it now
I have no experience with that blend, but I know that feeling well. I am a lightweight and I couldnt do more than one or two puffs of Elizabethan without getting sick. I tried multiple times and eventually gave up
Well done! Now I wanna try it!
i have seen multiple content creators have issues with a blend or two. I have not had fillmore, but i have had Haunted bookshop and even your Elizabethan. none have given me a nicotine high, but when i vaped, i would get air headed in the morning when i woke and if i hit it to much it would get me a little uneasy on my feet, even had to wait 15 minutes to ride my motorcycle it would effect me that much. then at night i would get so dizzy i would get sick. that is the fight or flight mode in your body wanting to eliminate anything in the stomach of non essential energy to be used. I just dont think one bowl of tobacco would cause that. but a batch with a chemical that you might have an allergy too, might. just my 2 pennies.
Thanks for sharing! Hard to say what caused it, but it certainly caught me by surprise!
Wow I wasn't expecting this. I had my first tin last month and I enjoyed it quite a bit, enough to order 5 more tins of it. During that time s'ing the Filmore among other blends I did notice the feeling of my throat constricting. It didnt bother me too much as I have had this feeling before and figured it was allergies or something. It did prompt me to do some googling and I recall searching nicotine overdose, or nicotine allergy. So it's possible I had a similar reaction to this can as you, except yours sounded alot more intense. Bad batch of perique maybe? I'm kinda worried now that i got 5 tins coming, i'll keep you posted
Haha! Good luck!
When I was 9, I tried Copenhagen chewing tobacco and accidentally swalloed it. That was maybe as bad as what you just described.
Its hard to imagine pipe tobacco having such a pronounced effect on a seasoned smoker.
Five Brothers puts a frog in my throat and gives me a light head if I smoke more than half a bowl- Try some of that as a control. 😅
Yikes! That could be fatal to a young enough child!
Ancient Warrior cigars do the same thing to me..doesnt matter which type. Not surte why.
I feel what you are trying to say. I dont really know the reason why, but sometimes tobaccos that dont have any nic affect on me (80% of blends) start to act kinda weird and kicky. Fortunately Ive never had the extreme situation that you went through. Im usually drinking something (water mostly) when Im smoking. I kinda think drinking and being hydrated helps alot with nicotine. Anyway, hope you never exprience it again.
PS. Lets age that particular tin and smoke it again after a couple of years. That would be something interesting to look forward to.
Peace
I already finished it! Haha.
I haven't had any Fillmore in a few years, so I don't have anything to contribute on that topic. I, like you, don't remember ever thinking that it was remarkably potent. However, if you find yourself feeling nicotine sick, consuming something sugary can make you feel better quickly. It's a trick that people in the tobacco industry have long utilized when they find themselves stricken, and it works well. Otherwise, drinking lots of water can help as well. I will say that I have had some blends over the years that never made me feel anything but all of a sudden smacked me down, even on a full stomach. After years of smoking it, one time 965 made me very sick. I think sometimes it just happens. It is interesting that you experienced it a second time. Maybe C&D accidentally left the nicotine spigot open too long when blending haha
Yes, very strange! I should clarify that the second time, I was able to notice it creeping up and stopped before any ill effect.
Perique is fermented. Makes me wonder if something evil didn't occur during or after fermentation.