Behold the Rivals to Lovers Trope...Apparently.
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2023
- There's probably better ways this trope has been executed, but this is a more recent example.
This is from a show I recently discovered called Saving Me, which is on BYUtv.
Fuck. 
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Ok, but can we just appreciate how she had enough integrity to work for her spot?
I really hoping we get to see more of her in the future of the series. Because I'm really interested to find out how she'll react to finding out what her father really does for a living, and in one timeline she becomes the commander of The Vault which is a VERY different career path then her plan now and I'm really interested to find out how that came to be.
You might appreciate a graphic novel called Seconds!
@@megabyte01 I love that book!
Which episode is this?
A future where you're married to someone who cares for you and whose dietary habits are likely to induce longevity/good health?
The horror!!
That's adult cartoons for ya.
I agree… except for the tofu. That’s never going to be as healthy as actual meat. If he can change the timeline enough (or just put his foot down) about the tofu then he’d be golden.
Ohhhh noooo a wife you've known since you were kids cares about and just wants to do something that's a no brainer like read to her, Sure don't think about what she does for you or lets you do, Wow. That's a nightmare.
She doesn't even seem overbearing, The only thing I would have done was explain to her how meat is more healthy than tofu, They house looks cool, I really never liked that whole fear of marriage trope, This is why younger folks are messed up now.
@@thedukeofchutney468bro, a lot of meat is actually bad for you like red meat for example and some fish like farmed salmon which has way too much saturated fats. Tofu would be a healthier alternative along with unfried chicken and other fish meats
@@munstahmummah6468
Even then, people just go for the easier beef steaks instead of actually going towards beef liver and that’s the most important organ to consume since it has the most nutritional minerals and less fats. The livers always get send into the dumps first.
She may come off as a stereotypical snob but good for her for wanting to earn her spot instead of having it given to her.
Is it really so bad of a future having an intelligent loving wife?
Tofu and kale smoothies bro
Disgusting diet and reading bedtime stories
@@Dookieman1975
Actually!
Kale smoothies with Boba 🧋 are awesome.
Those are always popular in the bubble tea chain stores.
Probably weird if you don’t remember anything
No up for the kale and tofu but reading my wife romance novels isnt a deal breaker at all
The idea is that he wanted to prevent having a lonely future and now he's whining about it
Ironic, isn't it?
@@hotarushinpei4966 I know lol
He also wanted to prevent having to eat tofu
@@chaneldoesnotexist8864 he weird
The duality of man
This makes me question the whole premise of the series. He’s trying to fix his life by mentoring his past self (despite the fact that he is no wiser now then when he was a kid), but even if he changes the past the present will just shift around him, and he’ll have no knowledge of what choices made it possible. He’s basically deleting the guy who learned all those lessons and replacing him with himself every time he returns to that chair. Honestly, it makes me look forward to him becoming self aware before the series ends.
Haven't had too much of a chance to check out this series myself yet, but yeah. Would make sense if the future self realising the flaws in his plan and the general idea of trying to 'cheat' or take shortcuts to becoming a better person with a better life would make sense for his arc.
I've watched the show(most of it since 2 episodes I couldn't find) and from what I've seen he only goes back to the past whenever he needed to fix a mistakes his done and he learns from it so his slowly changing himself. I could agree that his deleting and replacing him with himself thing it's sorta felt like he did it intentionally and was aware of that from happening but didn't try to find a better sollution given that if he ever made things worse and his new and terrible self may try to jeopardized his plan to have a better future and saving himself. Also have you ever wonder what would happen if he changed the past and later down that line he got killed, wouldn't that make him not exist anymore?
@@blake1974 I guess overriding yourself makes sense if that version of you goes down a worse path than you intended. It’s like slamming on life’s emergency breaks before deciding to throw it into reverse.
That's not how time works.
@@BeeWaifu We don't even know how time travel works in real life yet alone a cartoon
It’s cool how you can see the wedding ring already on his finger as soon as it cuts to him back in the future. A clever indicator to what changed before he even realizes it
These scenes are taken from "Bennett the Grouch".
It's actually cute and funny. The animation is simple but the writing makes up for it.
flash season 7 writing
@@nut1888 ain’t no way it’s that bad
@@nut1888 is it really that bad of a Season? I am just starting watching Flash. I don't want another GOT Season Incident.
why does this show look like Inside Job
@@kachosuffer7 it reminds me of it too.
honestly this seems more like a soft rivals to lovers rather than enemies to lovers; penelope doesn't hate bennett, she's moreso frustrated with him for rivalling her dream to go to her dream university. but, them being put together for the project and them working together bonded them and helped them understand one another better.
enemies are when they're engaged in hostile activities with one another, while rivals are when they're in competition with one another-- they're closer to rivals because penelope views him as competition, or something even weighing her down from her dreams despite being a fully capable and intelligent person on her own, where she could definitely get into university on her own grades alone
this was executed fine for "rivals to lovers", but if you're viewing it in an "enemies to lovers" sense, it obviously wouldn't be executed good.
Honestly, it can be hard for me to tell the difference when I'm looking at it up close.
@@hotarushinpei4966 i totally get it! don't worry, i've always had the issue with telling the two apart from one another, honestly
sometimes i need to step back for a minute and try to analyse if it's just a poorly executed enemies to lovers, or if it's a non-serious rivals to lovers
the difference usually is the level of hostility, or the setting, i've noticed :]
I think people are just hating on the enemies or rivals to lovers because it’s popular to hate on it
I don’t see what the big problem is with it; if they get over what made them fight or dislike each other, that can even lead to a stronger bond.
@@SupHapCakno, people hate the enemies to lovers/friends trope because they don't do it properly. They either drop the idea, rush it, or have it make no sense.
One great example of this is The Owl House. Amity hated Luz and saw her as a lowly being who couldn't do anything. That's until they started to actually team up on projects, go to prom together, and so on. Luz helped Amity appreciate other things in life than tries to remain as a perfect person her parents wanted her to be.
Most bad examples come from anime, romance cartoons, or live action shows. They most likely skip or never show their growth as people and just make them randomly happen just for the sake of it
@@idiotrat2698 I looked into the difference and a rule of thumb is apparently what side of conflict they're on. Enemies is opposing sides, rivals is same side and just not getting along.
Judging by the pictures of him and his wife he legit looks happy to be with her in that new altered timeline. And yet he considers this new timeline a nightmare. What even is this show?
Maybe is like the Flashpoint logic, where Barry Remember the two timelines for a time in the end of the movie (The animated one)
@@takeshi1899it seems he sends his conscious back in time to his past self. So when he goes back, he would be unaware of the changes
It must be like reboot Archie Sonic where Sonic remembers both timelines but he doesn't fully settle into the new memories until a couple of issues later.
It's mentioned in one episode that it takes a while for the new timeline memories to override his old ones. With him still having memories of the timeline where they were enemies, I can kinda see why he'd be freaking out over marrying his rival.
For as simple as this show is in animation, it makes up for in its writing and characters. This is a really nice show
reminds me a lot of Dan vs. in that sense, a show thats very good yet is criminally underrated
@@cascadingwaterfalls5830and Axe Cop
I thought it was a word girl sequel
"Good plot can save bad animation, but good animation cannot save bad plot."
@@cascadingwaterfalls5830 Yo a Dan vs. Enjoyer?
They read kinky books together? That's wholesome. Kinda. I guess? XD
Pretty gross if you ask me
If only Dipper and Pacifica ended up this way.
no kidding. GF even had TIME TRAVEL in it, too!
So I'm not the only one who immediately thought of Dipcifica when I saw this 🫡
What exactly did Pacifica bring to the table other than money and unlimited entitlement?
@@Atylonisusdid... did you even watch the show? She had a whole ass arc where she learns to not be snobby all thanks to Dipper
Don’t worry, they DID.
This was actually executed MUCH better than a lot of other versions of this trope, especially with his future self trying to undo it.
Be less judgemental
3:32
I was pretty "meh" with Snodgrass but that one little interaction really elevated him as a more interesting villain for me. And made me laugh hard.
Ayo based wakdu pfp
@@chillking2936 Thank you. Always nice to meet another Wakfu fan.
Wakfu pfp
Why does Older Bennett's personality never change no matter how he changes younger Bennett? Like the world around Old Bennett changes but not him. Is it like some sort of Paradox prevention? Because if he changed so much at once he wouldn't have built the time machine and then never changed so he would build the time machine. 🤷
Most likely yes
Inconsistent writing
Since the machine only sends his conscious back in time, his brain and memories are seemingly unaffected by the temporal changes or there seems to be a delay for the memories to come. The machine could also have a paradox prevention mechanism
I think she just has a personality
Kind of effed up to manipulate someone’s personality into something you want them to be because they think that person’s hot but aren’t willing to accept them the way they are
@@SupHapCak Who's she? We're questioning why Old Bennett doesn't change.
Holy crap I did _not_ expect so see someone talking about this show 💀 I used to see ads of it on RUclips ALL OF THE TIME that at some point I got tired of seeing them and decided to check it out . Didn't really watch any episodes, just looked at the thumbnails and thought "oh that's pretty neat".
Glad to see it's a show that actually managed to garner an audience :D these clips and the simple knowledge of this makes me want to check out the show again and actually give it a chance this time !!
Same exact experience
What's this show??? I clicked for the title, stayed for the cuteness, but then the other guy is the boy's future-self? Now I need to know the name of this show.
@@bluetiger2468 can't exactly remember but the title should be in the video's description iirc
That’s me: the guy who uncovers obscure cartoons!
The animation is simple but i REALLY appreciate minor details such as hair movements cause some shows be stiff as hell.
for any one worried that they wont end up together remember he can always alter the time line again so they do just under different circumstances and maybe slightly less tofu and basic bitch house decor
Can we all just acknowledge that Saving me is quite possibly one of the greatest shows that almost no one has ever heard of.
Yup, this is the Booster Gold of animation
it won me with the episode with the general trying to rizz up the alien 💀💀
This is a good future for him it just to bad they make a good couple, maybe they both might help each with their family problems or heal since they have each other. Yo bad he just still stuck on the guilt of his past instead of fixing his personality and building up his social skills.
Especially since allegedly the huge problem being the romance novels and the veggies. When you love someone, you’re most likely going to have to take risks. Romance is full of risks. I wouldn’t know since I don’t have a girlfriend, but I know lots of people who know how much of a mess romance can be.
@@hotarushinpei4966
Luckily! There’s Evangelion and it’s soundtrack that has themes of love, including the platonic and altruistic types.
Thanks to this video being recommended, I went to binge watch the show and it's pretty good! Really hidden gem of a show. Hopefully more people will know more about this show.
Same
These captions lol. Also, thanks to you, I wouldn't have discovered this show. I've already finished the first season
_What can I say except, "You're welcome"_
How you did find 1 season? BYUtv are not showing any eps for me and my source are missing a lot of eps.
@@cakeusagi7201 Maybe it's the country you're in?
@@hotarushinpei4966what even us BYUtv? where do i get that channel ive never even heard of it before
Dude, your are succesful, eating good food and in a loving relationship
And You are COMPLAINING
This is like some kid friendly Rick and Morty? Or some crazy Spiritual successor to Back to the future?
Thought this was a kid friendly Rick & Morty for a second.
This one gives me strong Disney vibes!! Or maybe like it came from Canada. But I dig it.
apparently the show is canadian-american created idk
exactly how i felt when i watched the first episode just now! it felt just like classic disney like watching gravity falls for the first time:)
i also find it funny how almost similar the characters are to GF. smart brother, silly sister +grumpy old man (although might be kind of a stretch since there's a third brother and they have parents) and not to mention the secret bookshelf door way like the vending machine in GF! idk if they're references or coincidences but i love the originality of saving me it's very nostalgic. :)
@@soosramirez2510
I've never even heard of the app where the show is apparently airing. But it really sounds like something that would've been on Disney that they just didn't snatch up.
Really good show . Finally finished the show. The show had a really good acting and plots.
Bro this is so cute what
Saving Me
Cause that’s the point they are cute kids
This show really needs more attention. Its awesome.
It already is.
😍😍
i just noticed at 0:40 there is a scene where shes touching bennets chest for no reason she is literaly feeling him up
Im back now from watching the whole series and its all thanks to this video. I now sit here waiting for more episodes to come…
I'll never understand the trope of history where you're in a happy relationship with someone just because the current you isn't attracted to your partner.
Can you provide me with examples of that trope?
@@hotarushinpei4966 1) This show
2) Mandy and erwin from Billy and mandy
3) The Ed's and kankers from ed edd n eddy
Etc.
@@buster3041 Isn’t it inverted in this case?
@@hotarushinpei4966 Yes but the point remains the same
This is the first I've ever seen of this show, and now I need to watch it.
That was really good 👌👍 and I remember the parts from the episodes and that's my favorite show 💖.
The new Rick and Morty looks great.
I feel this was a mistake on Old Bennet, who didn't think this new future through.
He was happy in those photos, he had a family, and the implication that his wife was able to get groceries suggested the future was no longer a dystopia. (Plus, he finally got laid)
Him going back to break up him and his future wife seems petty
Between Bennett and Penelope: Their Future is Possible.
The Problem: Elder Future Bennett: has been alone for Eons:
with his Digital A.l. Android, not used to seeing himself
in an Alternate Reality version, with a committed Lover and Wife:
His eye would never Pass: (Learn new tricks!)
His Youngster self has a chance of Romantic Love:
where the Elder Bennett did not, He may
Socialize with friends, Gain self respect
with his partners and Bond with family
Teaching Bennett not to become: Miserable.
However Future Bennett needs to meet Part-Way.
Both in Uni-since are Connected: New Era's must change
while learn new things. Might happen: could be a wonder!
Common Point not notice: Have You hear the Expression:
You are what you Eat! Eating Vegetable, Fruit, or Kale;
Bennett's Lady Love want her husband to live an extra
Everlasting longer life: despite the hidden Traits: to eating Junk Food,
even worst poor health seeing the Doctors.
.
Another Common Thing: Parent's may Despise each-other: Regardless
Commitment Lovers or Date Lovers a willing to take a stand: Defend their
Romantic Pledge no matter how their families feel's about them: Agreement or Against.
Penelope may perhaps might be on the Down slope now:
However since Bennett won her heart; she will try to win
him back. Penelope will not give up that easily.
Watch out Young Bennett: Lit the candle Flame of Romans is in the air.
She will try extra hard: She coming for you. A Possible Commitment Future:
that suppost to be not in the Equation.
The Problem: What if Young Bennett Grew-up and had children?
Similar to Young Bennett discovering his parents secret life,
they discover: Elder Age Bennett's Invention: The Time Machine?
Just like Bennett: fingering out his Parents Secret. Sooner or later his children
will try to use his latest Invention and Alter Time: His Children will use his innovation as a Consultation: To help Penelope and Bennett Bond. To Pledge their Marriage Commitment so they could Exist. Keep in mind: Future which has not happen yet!
His Children has their own reasons:
Not wanting to be Left Out:
Not to be Born.
Problem: is this Young Bennett First Love, or only Love?
Time Lines: to Each Future and Past has an effect:
to how many Date Lovers: He could of have or went out with,
Love Commitment or Heart Break? Is their a reason why he stayed
with his first love out many others in the sea?
He is Modest Lover who never left his main Crush:
always and Forever!
Bennett has a chance to explore those options:
However he is still young.
Not before Eight O'Clock; Mr...!
4:36 The fact that she is taller than him make this even more adorable
Yeah I'd cry too if my wife said I was gonna have kale smoothies.
This just randomly appeared in my recommended. I like it
same
Ain't no way that kid's 11
More like 13
Why?
@@Takejiro24 Considering the 11 year old's these days, he's way more mature than them and the voice doesn't sound like an 11 year old
11, 13, what's the difference, it's still a kid
@@marce420.7 I never said it wasn't
The downsides of having voice actors older than their characters 😩.
This is so dorky and cute
The kid already has bad start with his maybe future father in law
You should’ve included the ending where the future version of him sees that he prevented the relationship from happening and takes a moment to realize what he lost.
I know but for me, it kind of ends on a dour note. Especially considering what happens next...
So this show is just what they thought Rick and Morty’s giant secret was back when there was a mystery.
Alright people I just did a Google search by image. The name of the show is...
"Saving Me".
So Jimmy and Cindy basically
Yeah
The writers screwed the pooch with this episode. Beennet actually had a happy life with his wife, odds are he had kids and grandchildren with her too, but he was so used to being along he couldn't fathom how he could be happy with someone and conspired to undo it.
Yeah, there’s no denying that Older Bennett kinda screwed himself over on that part.
This show seems cute. I kinda wanna watch it.
The MF comes back in time to fix his life and is complaining about having a good marriage ?
There was no screaming or anything the wife sounds like a good person
Idk i wouldnt wanna be stuck with a woman i dont know
I appreciate her not taking the lazy route and earning her place
i’ve never seen this before and i thought it was just a rick and morty remake but i’m glad it has some weird past and future self thing going on
I mean it doesn’t really seem like a horrible alternative from whatever reason he went back in the first place. I never heard of the show so maybe it’s not or something
4:34 Fuck. Stop!
They are so cute. This is too damn adorable! 😊
How come I’ve never heard of this show until now? It looks great!
The Owl House also did this trope, and to be honest, It might actually become one that could actually work if done properly
Oh, Owl House did it properly, and it ended with us getting the cutest Disney couple ever
@@thevenomspinofrr
0:09 I love those two in the back seeing this getting ready to pop off and immediately choosing to GTFO.
LONG LIVE ANIMATION/LONG LIVE CARTOONS ! ! !
I mean
What wasn’t to understand about that?
She wants a good grade and she doesn’t want him to be late on it
Art style looks like Game Toons' and I can't stop seeing that
I need finish this show. I like it a lot
he looks like puff puff and she looks like Ilyssa (Illymation)
I LOVE IT A LOT
Ngl the soundtrack preety good
I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH! PLEASE TELL ME THEY’RE MAKING MORE EPISODES!
Doesn't seem like it for now.
@@hotarushinpei4966 There’s no word on it being cancelled at least. Hopefully this show gets more seasons! I really wanna see more!
Also, bit of a shameful plug but I am working on a review video for this show so if you wanted to maybe see that when it comes out that’d be cool 👉👈
Dude's future self could just say not to have kale smoothies
You know it would be HILARIOUS if his actual self was able to eat that stuff in the timeline because his wife got him a special gift.
A pill or device that would make it taste like ANYTHING he wanted.
Want it to taste like steak, BAM, blueberries, BAM, chocolate, etc.
Same with the smell and texture.
I really like this show actually based on this video! I should get into it
why does the boy and the old man remind me of Rick and Morty, but if they had glasses🤔
Imagine having your future self try by all means to stop you from getting laid
Ok, what is this show because I got to watch it!😂😃💖😁
Litterally in the description
BEST CARTOON IN THE UNIVERSE
Im gonna tell my kids this was Rick and Morty
Hey quick question, I’ve been wanting to watch this show but whenever I try, the episodes don’t appear. Is it because of regional difference or?
most likely
Without Justin Roland, Rick & Morty season 7 is just off.
Love it
Hope they end up together
Just skimming through this actually seems like a pretty good story. Maybe i’ll check it out
This is so cute help,,,, I should watch saving me for some time :D
Antebellum south huh, I was not expecting that joke but it got me good
I don't get what's to figure out about that first conversation, it's like "do your work and don't be a burden on me" it's pretty simple 🤷♀️
Wait, so this guy is projecting his consciousness into his past? But why is he doing this in the first place?
The premise of this show is about the guy's older version of himself to change the past to make his future better by communicating with his younger self to change things for the better, so that's probably why.
I never heard of this show before. lol
I don't know what this is and I don't know what's going on but I was intrigued and I saw the whole video
where did you watch the series
?
Shat show is this, I've never seen this, and thus clip got me intrigued
This is so cute
What show is this from?
Intresting series....love to see more
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ain't wo way neighbor, them rickitty and mortymort new voices has done did does difference after the changes
I wish this show was on netflix
0:36 got me like
Idk when i saw the trailer for the show i only see it as a mix of gravity falls and rick and morty. Idk why
I never heard of this show nor do I even know what BYUtv is, but I'm surprised I haven't. It doesn't look half bad outside of the older version of the protagonist not wanting a happy future I guess?
Well it has small fanbase and not very promoted
Well isn't this a brilliant love 💑 0:30
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I then realize... The cartoon "Hailey's on it" follows a similar premise.
Yo, what show is this?
What is this show called?
Mormon Rick and Morty