Your comment ONLY shows how dumb the average NFL fan is… The rule already exists pretty much exactly how you said it. Why are we so stupid as fans? I don’t get it.
@@SonofStormblessedThere's so many people commenting here that het got what he deserved for trying to scratch a couple more yards. Apparently, in their mind, a leaping forearm to the face is proper payback for bending the rules, and Texans players never bend the rules... 😂
@@yamamancha Tom Brady is Fn hypocrite he is the reason QBs have special rules lol he cried until they made special quarterback rules and now he owns part of the raiders so he thinks he can flip flop his opinion.
@SteelCourage I mean yea but he wasn't whining and the main reason was when he got his knee taken out in 08. The other stuff wa mainly the league shifting towards being more offensive minded.
But in this case, Azeez has to basically go towards the ground to make the hit on the QB. If Azeez hit him when he was upright, then fine, but why go to the ground after the QB when the QB is already clearly on the ground sliding??
The Steelers and Ravens back in the 2000's really changed the game. Big Ben said it on his podcast that all these rules protecting the offense is really taking away the football IQ from a lot of these players and making it super difficult for defenses to actually do their jobs.
@@Kevin.Costner. it’s stupid because no one can honestly decide what’s a fake slide and a simple slip stutter or anything else just another example of people crying about something.
People out here comparing a fake slide to targeting the head, and a forearm to the face. How many defenders get injured when the qb slides? These Texans fans get irrational 😀
@@SteelCouragemaybe u just dont have the capability to see if someone does a fake slide. Me on the other hand it’s obvious so I would assume a ref who’s a few feet away from him can tell
If he played in the 70’s , 80’s , 90’s , even 2000’s he would be celebrated for the toughness and tenacity he plays the linebacker position with . Jeff Saturday mentioned Ronnie Lott - go watch his highlights .
@MackB_ yea ur right, now go back and research what happened to the guys he hit in the head like that. They’re literally vegetables. Change has to happen. Go with it, or leave
Bad take. People don't need to be celebrated for in today's game for this. I think 3 games is BS and there needs to be rules against QB's fake sliding or pretending to give themselves up. But we can't cheer for someone doing that. Unnecessarily dangerous in an already dangerous game. I think ejection and one game.
Its not against the rules to fake going out of bounds. WR and RB do it all the time. As a defender its up to you to make sure the player is still 100% in bounds before you light them up. If theyre out of bounds youre getting flagged. Its called spacial awareness..just like WRs having to know where their feet are during a sideline catch to remain in bounds.
I found the last few days of the Trevor Lawrence hysteria very hypocritical and for no reason. 🙄 1. *2023: Tyrelle Dobbs (Bills) completely knocks out Dak Prescott (Cowboys) with a helmet hit:* --> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2. 2023: *Justin Herbert (Chargers) gets completelely flattened by Jaylon Kearse (Saints) while Herbert was sliding to the ground:* --> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit... just like any other player." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3. *2023: Jimmy Ward (Houston Texans) completely knocks out Russell Wilson (Denver Broncos) while Wilson was sliding down towards 1st Down:* --> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. Whats the big deal? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 4. 2017: *Joe Flacco (Ravens) while sliding to the ground, gets knocked out one side of the field, with his helmet flying to the other side of the stadium. Kiko Alonso (Dolphins) only got a 15 yard penalty + automatic 1st Down:* --> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit just like any other player. Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 5. 2023: *There were numerous occasions where Justin Fields (Chicago Bears) got hit while sliding to the ground or got clobbered on the sideline, while running out of bounds, and no one had a problem with that.* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 6. *Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback... If a QB doesnt want to get hit, after running 40 yards, he needs to slide 10 yards ahead of a defender who is running full steam, to give the defender time to stop his tackle, instead of trying to milk an additional 5 yards.*
@@SteelCourage Has nothing to do with justifying dirty hit. - If his name was DTR (Dorian Thompson Robinson), nobody would give a xhit about the hit. - If his name was Sam Howell, nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
It sucks because you have incidents where Mahomes tip toes the sidelines and gets an extra 5 to 10 yards and complains when someone hits him. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The defenders job is to stop you from getting extra yards, and QB’s have been abusing the protection they get from the league for some time now. You already can’t hit them in the pocket without the likelihood of a penalty happening. If a QB runs, they’re a runner and need to learn how to protect themselves
Or when Brady gets tapped on the helmet and they call roughing the passer? You people slow bro, and if that single play by mahomes is your only point? Yall just talking to talk, you can’t even go back 15 years of the game with players doing that, FOH
Lol, another Texans fan that thinks a leaping forearm to the face is acceptable retribution for scratching a few yards. Hello, they all bend the rules! How do you not know that? 😂
Because it has nothing to do with this play? Trevor was clearly sliding; it wasn't a late slide, a fake slide, etc. It's not relevant to this play and it's dishonest to equivocate the two
there may be a rule to QB sliding but if enough QBs fake slide then defenders will not adhere to rule since they will be fired for being ineffective at stopping the run
I just saw today that Trevor was sliding for the first down marker. You shouldn't slide in that situation because you're leaving yourself open to the possibility of a dirty hit. It's also up to the QB to protect himself here and slide early enough. If you decide to go for the first down, then you have to just run and put your shoulder down and take a hit like a football player.
Just make it so runners have to slide earlier or make it penalty for a late slide. At some point we have to put more blame on the runner instead of totally on the defensive player
They should just do away with sliding. It puts both the quarterback and defender in a bad position. So if you gonna run take the hit or throw the ball away.
Yes I know. I'm saying you throw an incomplete pass or throw it out of bounds or try to run in which you get hit like the rest of the nfl. But sliding should be banned. It causes more harm than good.
Mahomes and Allen know that they have that bias, Caleb Williams tried it and Dan Campbell told his guys that if he isn't going out or sliding, to HIT him. Plain and simple, you get out the pocket, you get hit.
I was going to say this. On the St. Browns brothers podcast. Amon-Ra said exactly that. Because Caleb tends to act like he's running out of bounds, and then stay on the field of play. Dan Campbell stated just that. And D.C. also told the refs before the game, what was going to happen. Amon- Ra had me laughing as he described it to his brother, when he saw that Jack Campbell hit on Caleb.
The Josh Allen one annoys me. He clearly does a juke. It wasn't like the defender stopped, he just did what happens when most db's try tackling Allen and got shrugged off.
Hate seeing guys get injured but, When the QB slides that late what are you supposed to do? Late hits, facemasks, roughing the passer are penalties that have been in the game forever. those things happen. The whole qb slide thing is way more than that. How is a defender supposed to know when a qb is sliding or not if they wait until the defender is running full speed? genuine question I mean no harm. Im not a "real" football player but I played in my youth. even then its hard to pull back from a tackle. you are taught to run thru the opposition not hold back. So IDK man. It looked to me that he really wanted the first down then last second decided to slide. I could be very very wrong here as well too.
Make a rule fake sliding and fake going out of bounds results in 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. Late sliding should not have defender penalized. Implement two step rule like late hit on QBs. If defender hits QB within 2 steps its fair game
Take the sliding away. Once you're past the line of scrimmage, you can't be protected. If you want to protect yourself as a qb, then you can dive, which is much safer IMO
@@mr.brooks9802The rule says you don't have to touch the player for them to be down when they slide. So, you just walk away. Which is the whole point of the rule, lol...
@@therocket280z7 yea, the problem is he waited to long to slide in an attempt to get the first down. Should the defender just let him get the first down too?
The defender did NOTHING wrong. Once the target has been locked in, and he has committed to the hit, there is no pulling back. The QB needs to be responsible and (1) slide earlier and (2) don't leave yourself exposed as you slide. The NFL is getting ridiculous with the way they are rigging the game towards the offence. They are making the game indefensible.
110% agree that this is a consistency issue. He should have had 1 or 2 games. If a hit to the head and KO concussion is 3 weeks, then it is 3 weeks for every occurrence. Star QB or backup special teams.
You can’t say that when the dude has been fined over 7 times for Late and dirty hits, you can miss me with the “it’s too harsh” cuz after 7 warnings it’s clear dude jus doesn’t get it 😂😂
I’m a defensive guy my job is to hit the Qb.. All that sliding late and fake sliding and even fake running out of bounds to give yourself up has to be stopped cause idk any 4.3-4.5 runner or even an 300 plus pound lineman that can stop on a dime
If the rules of defense deem that I have to tackle you in the chest and you slide late putting your head at chest level, do you know what you get? A vicious hit to the head of a defenseless player that it didn't need to be. Slide earlier or take the hit. This hit specifically was bad but the conversation itself was valid. Which you would have heard if it sounded like you watched more than 10 secs of the video
@ he didn’t slide late lol the defender knowingly went for the head area and he lead with his forearm that had the brace on it so let’s stop making excuses for a dirty hit .
@ I watch football since 1982 lol 😂 and that was a dirty hit you wanna make excuses for by bringing up BS like fake sliding when it’s simple guy led with his forearm brace and launched at his head when he could have made a simple chest tackle so facts are facts .
@SteelCourage if you have truly watch football that long then you would know defenders tackle like that in every game. Forearm and shoulder tackles don't make a hit malicious. It's easy to dissect it in slow motion after the fact. In real time both guys were moving at full speed to either get or prevent a 1st down. Trevor could have slid sooner but chose to push it for a reason. You want to say he led with the forearm and brace but I guarantee he isn't thinking about that in the moment. His only concern is preventing the 1st down and a chest tackle takes longer.
Just like the court systems instead of just fining someone 20 times for money. Make an example from the start instead and they won't think they can pay their way out of it..
Trevor Lawrence gotta take responsibility for not giving himself up earlier ..the suspension was excessive and prolly was based that it was Trevor who got hit
That and everyone's against aziz because of his religious preferences. I miss watching those big hits in football, but now we're closer to soccer.. it's sad how soft men are now days.
I just wish ppl would just say they don’t like TLaw. Because let it be Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, Herbert, Tua, Love, or any other QB these media outlets fawn over. They’d have different takes. It’s clear TLaw was sliding, so miss me with “it’s a bang/bang play”, “what is the defender supposed to do?” Azeez had clear intent and he’s a repeat offender for blatant cheap shots.
@kdubbss0583 That same player (Al-Shaair) made a similar dirty play on Caleb Williams back in Week 2 with a late hit out of bounds. And then when Bears players proceeded to confront him for it, he hauled off and punched a Bears player in the face who was standing on the sideline and had nothing to do with nothing and wasnt even involved in any of it. Guess what the refs did ? Looked the other way. No flag on the late hit, no flag on the unprovoked punch to the face. This dickheads karma has been way overdue and I'm glad he's finally getting it one way or another
he’s not a blatant offender, even that is misleading. there have been stories all year about players getting fined for routine penalties. look at azeez’s list and you’ll see one on there was for a facemask. i’m sorry that shouldn’t count against him. if getting a facemask counts towards your “record” then half the league has an extensive record and needs a longer suspension if they do something. its just dumb. the chicago thing earlier this year? the hit on caleb was fair he didn’t get out of bounds, the punch after? yeah he should have got a game. that’s one event. the rest on there are all for penalties the NFL randomly started fining for. there have been running backs getting fined for hitting defenders this year. when do they get suspended?
@@pluginpandawhat about grabbing Brady by the throat in ‘22? Moreover, even if you believe his list of infractions are bang/bang plays, the fact he’s been warned MULTIPLE times to clean up the behavior? And he still didn’t.
It looked to me that Lawrence started his slide after the defender was coming at him. It was more of a bang bang play. Lawrence was trying to use the slide rule to his advantage.
Whoa... he got 3 games because of who he hit. Texans should be pissed. The league is not being consistent. There was no progression or escalation of disciplinary action. Consistency is key. That should have been the focal point of discussion.
3 game suspension for that is crazy to me. I didn't know about his prior offenses but I agree with dude in the blue jacket, he should have definitely been suspended for some of them and definitely that punch thrown in that Bears game.
The qb sliding should have to protect themselves. The sliding right before you get hit is crazy kinda. It’s alot like in hockey when a player turns right before getting hit and creates a hitting from behind scene. Games to fast to stop on a dime
@Saberwolves84 I agree the timing of the slide was too late. I don't think Trey realized how fast he was coming. If a player is coming at you that fast a QB start running towards the sidelines and cut.
Basic rule for the Defensive Players...Dont go for the Legs/Knees...Dont go for the Head. You can literally end a players career, with such a hit. Its really not that complicated. Azeez Al-Shaair looked like he was trying to decapitate Trevor Lawrence. The suspension was justified. Period.
That makes no sense the game is played at a high speed. Some guys can’t be tackled unless you go for their knees/legs(Derrick Henry). So the defense is supposed to let the offense score to protect them???
How about we put flags around the waist ? If you ever played the game the things you are saying is harder than it seems . Trevor Lawrence is 6’4 210+ . I wanna see you tackle him in a safe way .
Josh Allen did this once and it was more of a stop start to change direction than fake slide. Josh Allen does a fake throw more on the run...that's it!
Most QBs don’t fake slide so it’s pretty ridiculous to me. Fake going out of bounds thing is more of a thing than fake sliding, even with the plays some claim are a fake slide it’s very arguable imo
It's concerning that an NFL GM doesnt know that hit is illegal.. Its more concerning that he would act outraged when this player has had at least 7 fines/warnings for dirty play leading up to this incident.
YOu are missing what he is outraged for. His issue is consistency from teh league. As has been said, their are similar hits that were fined or suspended at all and the only reason he got hte harsh penalty is because of what happened to Lawrence. The penalties have to be consistent regardless of who made the hit and who got hit.
@@chriskay1449 That dirty hit will get flagged and fined every time. This guy has consistently got himself into trouble for his dirty play.. Very consistently!
@@JamesKennedy-t9h You are missing the point. When talking consistency we are talking consistency across the league. As I said it has been brought up that similar hits were not flagged or fined. The hit should be fined regardless of who the player is. NFL seems to pick and choose who gets fined for the hit and bases it on who you hit.
Dude lead with his forearm. This is a non-story. He would not have been suspended if it was just about a late hit. Dude is a dirty player and threw a forearm at someone’s head.
If you leave the pocket and are running in the open field in my opinion you are fair game. You are a QB. Not a running back. Should the QB be allowed to slide sure. Doesn’t mean you should get an special treatment. Then you can limit this kind of BS. Let the defense play defense. We remember all the great defenses of years gone by not bc they were nice, but because they were fearsome and you knew they were going to bring it.
Nick Caserio is so full of sh't.. Anybody who knows football and has eyes can see that Lawrence slid a good 3-4 yds before the hit. Al-Shaair had to even nosedive downward to make sure he made contact with his forearm shiver..Dirty hit dirty player and now we know they have a dirty GM
It was a forearm to the face/head=never legal. There's nothing to argue. The guy already punched two other players in the face this year, the GM was being a fool...
@therocket280z7 And one of those players he punched after he made a dirty late hit on their QB and got confronted for it. But he's so dumb he punched a random bystander instead of the players actually confronting him SMH
Al-Shaair on the field is putting other players health on the line when it isn’t necessary. He is irresponsible and dangerous. Off the field is completely irrelevant. Guy in white shirt was on point.
According to Texans fans commenting here, a illegal forearm to the face is legal retribution for someone trying to scratch a couple more yards. Which makes sense when Texans players have never, and will never, bend a rule 😂
You're not smart. If you actually watch the film instead of being an emotional child, you'll see that he hit him in the shoulder first and then he slid up to his neck because that's how movement works. Don't be a girl or a child and this won't be so difficult to understand.
get rid of sliding. no more giving yourself up cuz u dont wanna get hit. once u take off as a runner, ure fair game. but in the end in dont matter cuz football is dying. adding bureaucracy to the sport will finish it
Not one of you can produce footage of Mahomes fake sliding.. Not even once!. As far as skirting the sideline to get a couple more yards..every WR and RB does it to, its part of the game. If they're still in bounds when you hit them you wont be flagged..if theyre even an inch out of bounds then its a penalty and its going to be called. Its up to defenders to have awareness of where they are on the field before they hit.
@@Tom-q6b Theyre treated differently in the pocket..the NFL has decided that for the safety of QBs..but once theyre a ball carrier that protection is removed. The very same hit would have been a penalty against a RB or WR that gives themselves up and slides. You may not like it but its the rules. So go wine to the NFL rules committee..not to me just because you dont understand the rules or dont agree with them
QBs need to be forced to slide sooner, many seem to invite the foul because 15 yards is huge in a close game. The hit was wrong but no running the ball 'to the edge' either.
I don't buy the idea "You can't play defense anymore" The BEST defense in the NFL is the Philadelphia Eagles. And guess what? They are BULLIES. They hit hard, but they play smart. They aren't dirty. They are physical and they will out physical you. Its more of a lack of Defensive coaching talent in the NFL than the inability to play defense because of the rules...
I concur, I can't remember any of our players make an egregious or dirty hit over the last 5 yrs. Our players have made hard hits and great plays but rarely anything dirty. I can't speak for other cities but Philly has a great front office and the professional character flows down from the owner and GM. Houston clearly doesn't have this, how can they defend Al-Shaair?
Couldn’t agree more . Physical =doesn’t dangerous . What Azieez did was try and put a man in the hospital . That’s not skillful , physical , or good defense . It’s just bad .
@@chriskay1449 What? You mean tackle him? Get out of here you clown. There isn't a sane person out there that thought there was any intent to hurt him.
If it was Vontaze Burfict nobody would be debating the dirty play. If it was Mahomes no one would debate the slide. It was a dirty play hands down. Sliding is a dumb thing but until the Tush Push is gone this will still be accepted.
This ain’t baseball…stop the cap. This guy deserved a 1 game suspension. The the appeal is likely to get the penalty downgraded to a2 game suspension. He’s a multiple offender. It has to be about the one hit. If he got official warnings then the fine may be warranted. I’ve always advocated to outlaw baseball sliding. Lead with the taped forearm to the head was stupidity. He’ll be fresh for down stretch. Nothing will change. NO SLIDING.
You can use as much word salad as you want. But that Forarm shiver to the helmet was intentional and deliberate. It wasn't close to the sidelines. He wasn't trying to fake the defender out. The defensive player had a choice and he made it.
Once the QB is out of the pocket and starts to run, he should be considered a running back and hit like one. NFL is turning into the NBA- all offense no defense and terrible to watch
He was in the air about to hit Trevor Lawrence before Trevor even started sliding. This whole conversation is ridiculous because it was all Trevor Lawrence’s fault for sliding late. Not to mention quarterbacks run through tackles all the time. Patrick Mahomes fake the slide this year and scored a touchdown. Not to mention I saw Patrick Mahomes runner DB over to score a touchdown. What happens on a defensive back gets hurt because they didn’t intense their body before making a hit. Not tense in your body believe you exposed to take a hit equivalent to a crack back.
"We can't play defence any more." Incorrect. You can't play clumsy defence and needlessly injure a player because of being clumsy. This isn't tough, it's reckless and low-skill.
There’s a very simple way to fix this. When a qb crosses the line of scrimmage with the football they leave all there qb protection at the line. It’s not the job of the defense to protect the offense
The call out of Kuechly was great. I wish there was more of that conversation. Our favorite and probably best LBs probably have fine records that look insane. He defintely deserves a suspension but 3 feels excessive. I wonder if the league over-shot it knowing he'd appeal and then it comes down to a more reasonable suspension. We're talking about Azeez knowing that Trevor was sliding but where is the conversation about Trevor seeing Azeez coming in and not protecting himself? We see the viewpoint from behind Trevor and assume that Azeez had more time. Have we seen the viewpoint from behind Azeez to say maybe Trevor needed to slide earlier?
@tribadist He got suspended 3 games because this is stuff that he does REGULARLY but consistently gets away with it, and apparently the NFL was just fed up with it
Good guys off the field don't make egregious hits like that on the field. PERIOD. There have been lots of players that hit hard and made great plays (Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, etc.) but it'll be hard to find clips of them making the types of hits Azeez has repeatedly made. This guy has no respect for the game and for fellow players. And bad optics for the Texans GM defending this guy. It's refreshing the NFL had the backbone to call out the bad character of this player.
Seems relatively easy to solve. If a defender has to go down, towards the QB, then that is cause for fine/suspension. The QB is down/giving up. “Down” is the operative word. Player no longer vertical, he’s given up. Defender has to lower his body to hit that player seems to be a foul.
Simple: delete the QB rule and make it so when a QB is out of the pocket, it's their responsibility to protect themselves. Why should they have special protection when they become ball carriers? 😏
Not defending the forearm...But Trevor Lawrence was running full steam ahead, completely upright. From the moment he showed signs of sliding to when the contact happened - less than 1 second. Ask the defenders that let up on Mahomes only to see him go past them.
Never ejected? Then this is mostly on the NFL! If he was ejected or suspended for a previous violation it’s possible he would have changed his play on the field and this wouldn’t have happened.
Any player that leads the hit with the elbow to the head is intentionally premeditating an injury and should be held accountable, including being charged criminally.
this is crazy, the dude literally lunged with his elbows at the mans head, how are they defending that, stop the foolishness they see that... talking about the texans GM
It's my impression, from the comments here, that Texans fans believe any rule bending deserves bodily harm, and that no Texans players ever bend a rule. 😂
I'm all for rules being implemented to protect the players BUT in a lot of these instances...the defensive player is watching the offensive player initiate the slide and they still keep coming to hit the player. As a defensive player you can see the other player dropping to the floor and pressing the eject button.
QBs trying to get away with late slides isn’t the case here lol. He was still standing when Trevor started the slide. It was a bad hit. He got suspended. Moving on
@@SwayPromo It's not about being soft, it's about playing with respect for the game and for others. Brian Dawkins of the Eagles used to make the hardest hits, but you'll never find a clip of him making the type of hits Azeez has been guilty of.
The NFL is the most popular sport/money maker in the land. 99% of the country doesn't care about the NBA because the players don't even really try until the playoffs. ESPN= Needs to make money 😂
I think the rule should be simplified. If the QB starts to run, he turns a runner and is treated like a runner.
That’s already the rule. Any runner can slide or take a knee.
Still an illegal, dirty hit
He's a repeated offender. The decision is fair.
Your comment ONLY shows how dumb the average NFL fan is… The rule already exists pretty much exactly how you said it. Why are we so stupid as fans? I don’t get it.
@@SonofStormblessedThere's so many people commenting here that het got what he deserved for trying to scratch a couple more yards. Apparently, in their mind, a leaping forearm to the face is proper payback for bending the rules, and Texans players never bend the rules... 😂
Should be a penalty for fake sliding. Mahomes and Allen take advantage of that too much.
It's supposed to be, but refs don't call it. Allen did it in the playoff game against the Steelers and scored a touchdown.
This is true but this was Dirty hit
@@heirtothethrone000In college it’s a flag in nfl It isn’t a penalty yet
I see Mahomes don't but I've actually never seen Allen do it.
@@anssiheiskala8694two separate points
Tom Brady is right: QBs can't ask defenders to not do their job. Don't want to get hit, give up before there is the possibility of contact.
How about not hitting someone in the head with a forearm?
@@yamamancha Tom Brady is Fn hypocrite he is the reason QBs have special rules lol he cried until they made special quarterback rules and now he owns part of the raiders so he thinks he can flip flop his opinion.
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13😂😂😂 bro is in every comment crying.
I've been watching football for awhile and Brady sounds like a hypocrite. He got all kinds of favorable protections from the league.
@SteelCourage I mean yea but he wasn't whining and the main reason was when he got his knee taken out in 08. The other stuff wa mainly the league shifting towards being more offensive minded.
The first time the fake slide was used it should've been instantly shut down and penalized. The NFL let this become a problem.
college did it immediately
Unrelated to this situation
The quarterbacks broke the trust by manipulating the rule so they deserve the consequences of that distrust
That's a perfect way to express it: The QBs broke that trust about giving up on a play
But in this case, Azeez has to basically go towards the ground to make the hit on the QB. If Azeez hit him when he was upright, then fine, but why go to the ground after the QB when the QB is already clearly on the ground sliding??
Yea I just wish this hit was on mahomes. Mahomes is the one that cheats the defense when they don’t destroy him
@@chris2kgreatbecause the defender was already airborne when Lawrence started the slide is on Lawrence
You better suspend the jags player that blindsided him. NFL is a joke
Jeff Saturday trying as hard as he can to not curse during his rant...
But he did
He did at the 7 min mark
😂
He’s so unlikeable. Refuses to see the other side of the argument
@@HHHPedigrees so you think that the play that Lawrence was hurt was legit?
The Steelers and Ravens back in the 2000's really changed the game. Big Ben said it on his podcast that all these rules protecting the offense is really taking away the football IQ from a lot of these players and making it super difficult for defenses to actually do their jobs.
Fake Sliding = 25 Yard Penalties to offence
= Defense knowns their going down for sure so they back off since no bluffing easy
Not a bad idea. Maybe 15 yards but I like this.
@@Kevin.Costner. it’s stupid because no one can honestly decide what’s a fake slide and a simple slip stutter or anything else just another example of people crying about something.
People out here comparing a fake slide to targeting the head, and a forearm to the face. How many defenders get injured when the qb slides?
These Texans fans get irrational 😀
@@SteelCouragemaybe u just dont have the capability to see if someone does a fake slide. Me on the other hand it’s obvious so I would assume a ref who’s a few feet away from him can tell
@ you just assume it’s a fake slide and that’s what you tell yourself.
If he played in the 70’s , 80’s , 90’s , even 2000’s he would be celebrated for the toughness and tenacity he plays the linebacker position with . Jeff Saturday mentioned Ronnie Lott - go watch his highlights .
But it isn’t bro it’s 20 years later new generation new environment in terms of the type of world we live in you know this
@MackB_ yea ur right, now go back and research what happened to the guys he hit in the head like that. They’re literally vegetables. Change has to happen. Go with it, or leave
Football slowly becoming unwatchable.
Bad take. People don't need to be celebrated for in today's game for this. I think 3 games is BS and there needs to be rules against QB's fake sliding or pretending to give themselves up. But we can't cheer for someone doing that. Unnecessarily dangerous in an already dangerous game. I think ejection and one game.
@@ChazzyPhizzle1 it's a physical game! Go watch flag football then!
It’s INSANE they didn’t show a single highlight of Mahomes faking going out of bounds
They did yesterday. Even showed Josh Allen doing it too
Allen does it too.
They’ve been trying not to show it so that they can cheat for qbs and much as possible
You’ve never played a high level sport and you’re telling me a guy who does, fakes went out of bounds? Yeah go to work dude, stick to what you know.
Its not against the rules to fake going out of bounds. WR and RB do it all the time. As a defender its up to you to make sure the player is still 100% in bounds before you light them up. If theyre out of bounds youre getting flagged. Its called spacial awareness..just like WRs having to know where their feet are during a sideline catch to remain in bounds.
I found the last few days of the Trevor Lawrence hysteria very hypocritical and for no reason. 🙄
1. *2023: Tyrelle Dobbs (Bills) completely knocks out Dak Prescott (Cowboys) with a helmet hit:*
--> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2. 2023: *Justin Herbert (Chargers) gets completelely flattened by Jaylon Kearse (Saints) while Herbert was sliding to the ground:*
--> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit... just like any other player." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3. *2023: Jimmy Ward (Houston Texans) completely knocks out Russell Wilson (Denver Broncos) while Wilson was sliding down towards 1st Down:*
--> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. Whats the big deal? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4. 2017: *Joe Flacco (Ravens) while sliding to the ground, gets knocked out one side of the field, with his helmet flying to the other side of the stadium. Kiko Alonso (Dolphins) only got a 15 yard penalty + automatic 1st Down:*
--> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit just like any other player. Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5. 2023: *There were numerous occasions where Justin Fields (Chicago Bears) got hit while sliding to the ground or got clobbered on the sideline, while running out of bounds, and no one had a problem with that.* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
6. *Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback... If a QB doesnt want to get hit, after running 40 yards, he needs to slide 10 yards ahead of a defender who is running full steam, to give the defender time to stop his tackle, instead of trying to milk an additional 5 yards.*
Exactly.
go go gadget copy and paste response
Dang solid comment I commend your research
@@OnyemaechiAmuro your just looking for excuses and trying to justify a dirty hit.
@@SteelCourage Has nothing to do with justifying dirty hit.
- If his name was DTR (Dorian Thompson Robinson), nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
- If his name was Sam Howell, nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
Take the sliding out of the game. Don't run the ball if you can't get hit. Go down! Defenses are handicapped
Go down? That’s what sliding is.
Sliding is going down…it’s going down in a way that’s often considered safer than falling forward
It's literally going down
You probably should have slide more dude sounding like you have some serious brain damage
They eventually gonna get mad at Greeney for skipping the commercial breaks ever morning
They just put it somewhere else shorting another longer segment
Greenie has been warned several times about this...at some point he needs to be suspended.
It sucks because you have incidents where Mahomes tip toes the sidelines and gets an extra 5 to 10 yards and complains when someone hits him. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The defenders job is to stop you from getting extra yards, and QB’s have been abusing the protection they get from the league for some time now. You already can’t hit them in the pocket without the likelihood of a penalty happening. If a QB runs, they’re a runner and need to learn how to protect themselves
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@@Ysoserious1exactly
Allen does it all the time too.
Or when Brady gets tapped on the helmet and they call roughing the passer? You people slow bro, and if that single play by mahomes is your only point? Yall just talking to talk, you can’t even go back 15 years of the game with players doing that, FOH
Lol, another Texans fan that thinks a leaping forearm to the face is acceptable retribution for scratching a few yards. Hello, they all bend the rules! How do you not know that? 😂
Jeff had nothing to say about the hesi slide or the fake step out of bounce
Facts, I can't stand that dude, tfoh
Because that didn't happen on this play.
@@kyletucker3811 But any defender is gonna factor that into his decision making lol
Then the league should do something about it. Taking cheap shots doesnt make anything better
Because it has nothing to do with this play? Trevor was clearly sliding; it wasn't a late slide, a fake slide, etc. It's not relevant to this play and it's dishonest to equivocate the two
He was trying to stretch his run for a first down. The defender was trying to stop him. He could have slid early but didn't
Why is Kimberly Martin on this panel?
Idk
i know many disagree but I still dont see an issue with the Al-Shaair hit, it got news because its a QB
QBs are the only players that slide bro. If it was a RB it doesn’t even happen.
Because there is a rule that once the QB enters a slide they are down.
there may be a rule to QB sliding but if enough QBs fake slide then defenders will not adhere to rule since they will be fired for being ineffective at stopping the run
Because it was head hunting. The timing of the hit is mostly defensible. The style of the hit is indefensible.
I just saw today that Trevor was sliding for the first down marker. You shouldn't slide in that situation because you're leaving yourself open to the possibility of a dirty hit. It's also up to the QB to protect himself here and slide early enough. If you decide to go for the first down, then you have to just run and put your shoulder down and take a hit like a football player.
Just make it so runners have to slide earlier or make it penalty for a late slide. At some point we have to put more blame on the runner instead of totally on the defensive player
Late slide. It was literally last tenth of a second slide. He got exactly what was coming to him, and now a guy is suspended for it.
It was a regular “aggressive” football play! WOW!
They should just do away with sliding. It puts both the quarterback and defender in a bad position. So if you gonna run take the hit or throw the ball away.
You cant throw the ball away once you're passed the line of scrimmage
Yes I know. I'm saying you throw an incomplete pass or throw it out of bounds or try to run in which you get hit like the rest of the nfl.
But sliding should be banned. It causes more harm than good.
Mahomes and Allen know that they have that bias, Caleb Williams tried it and Dan Campbell told his guys that if he isn't going out or sliding, to HIT him. Plain and simple, you get out the pocket, you get hit.
I was going to say this. On the St. Browns brothers podcast. Amon-Ra said exactly that. Because Caleb tends to act like he's running out of bounds, and then stay on the field of play. Dan Campbell stated just that. And D.C. also told the refs before the game, what was going to happen. Amon- Ra had me laughing as he described it to his brother, when he saw that Jack Campbell hit on Caleb.
The Josh Allen one annoys me. He clearly does a juke. It wasn't like the defender stopped, he just did what happens when most db's try tackling Allen and got shrugged off.
THANK YOU! HE LITERALLY STOPPED AND CHANGED DIRECTION! NO INTENTION OF SLIDING! People just hate on Allen because he is Allen
That’s exactly why making fake sliding a penalty is a dumb idea… define a fake slide from an uncoordinated juke
Hate seeing guys get injured but, When the QB slides that late what are you supposed to do? Late hits, facemasks, roughing the passer are penalties that have been in the game forever. those things happen. The whole qb slide thing is way more than that. How is a defender supposed to know when a qb is sliding or not if they wait until the defender is running full speed? genuine question I mean no harm. Im not a "real" football player but I played in my youth. even then its hard to pull back from a tackle. you are taught to run thru the opposition not hold back. So IDK man. It looked to me that he really wanted the first down then last second decided to slide. I could be very very wrong here as well too.
You aren't supposed to hit him in the head with your forearm and follow through.
@@cuencaguy9799 Well, Mr. Genius, I'd guess you're expecting him to fckn teleport in that split second moment?
Habitual line-stepper. Shout out to Charlie Murphy.
I was looking for this comment 😂
Make a rule fake sliding and fake going out of bounds results in 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. Late sliding should not have defender penalized. Implement two step rule like late hit on QBs. If defender hits QB within 2 steps its fair game
Watching mahomes run clearly out of bounds to stop the d only to cut up the sideline for 30 makes me sick.
The rule for fake sliding already exists, it’s too hard for refs to judge intent most of the time.
Take the sliding away. Once you're past the line of scrimmage, you can't be protected. If you want to protect yourself as a qb, then you can dive, which is much safer IMO
You lead with an arm in a brace and followed thru with your shoulder in an attempt to injure..
Id kick him out for the last games
What should he lead with?
You’re stupid
Man these Texans fans want blood. They all think it's fair play to put a leaping forearm to the face for scratching a couple yards, lol...
@@mr.brooks9802The rule says you don't have to touch the player for them to be down when they slide. So, you just walk away. Which is the whole point of the rule, lol...
@@therocket280z7 yea, the problem is he waited to long to slide in an attempt to get the first down. Should the defender just let him get the first down too?
Once you cross the line of scrimmage, you are no longer a QB, you are a running back!!
The defender did NOTHING wrong.
Once the target has been locked in, and he has committed to the hit, there is no pulling back.
The QB needs to be responsible and (1) slide earlier and (2) don't leave yourself exposed as you slide.
The NFL is getting ridiculous with the way they are rigging the game towards the offence.
They are making the game indefensible.
110% agree that this is a consistency issue. He should have had 1 or 2 games. If a hit to the head and KO concussion is 3 weeks, then it is 3 weeks for every occurrence. Star QB or backup special teams.
You can’t say that when the dude has been fined over 7 times for Late and dirty hits, you can miss me with the “it’s too harsh” cuz after 7 warnings it’s clear dude jus doesn’t get it 😂😂
You can see his own teammates throw their hands up in the air when he makes the hit. They know it was dumb and unnecessary.
I can tell you never played ball. Teammates will always do everything to get the call, even if they know they shouldnt get it.
I’m a defensive guy my job is to hit the Qb.. All that sliding late and fake sliding and even fake running out of bounds to give yourself up has to be stopped cause idk any 4.3-4.5 runner or even an 300 plus pound lineman that can stop on a dime
Sliding is not the problem it’s just typical people looking for excuses when there is a dirty hit
If the rules of defense deem that I have to tackle you in the chest and you slide late putting your head at chest level, do you know what you get? A vicious hit to the head of a defenseless player that it didn't need to be. Slide earlier or take the hit. This hit specifically was bad but the conversation itself was valid. Which you would have heard if it sounded like you watched more than 10 secs of the video
@ he didn’t slide late lol the defender knowingly went for the head area and he lead with his forearm that had the brace on it so let’s stop making excuses for a dirty hit .
You clearly don’t watch football and are only talking about this one hit when it’s a wider discussion
@ I watch football since 1982 lol 😂 and that was a dirty hit you wanna make excuses for by bringing up BS like fake sliding when it’s simple guy led with his forearm brace and launched at his head when he could have made a simple chest tackle so facts are facts .
@SteelCourage if you have truly watch football that long then you would know defenders tackle like that in every game. Forearm and shoulder tackles don't make a hit malicious. It's easy to dissect it in slow motion after the fact. In real time both guys were moving at full speed to either get or prevent a 1st down. Trevor could have slid sooner but chose to push it for a reason. You want to say he led with the forearm and brace but I guarantee he isn't thinking about that in the moment. His only concern is preventing the 1st down and a chest tackle takes longer.
Just like the court systems instead of just fining someone 20 times for money. Make an example from the start instead and they won't think they can pay their way out of it..
Hahaha act like we don’t have eyes. Texans handling this terribly.
Once QB gets out of the pocket and runs they are fair game imo, it is up to them to protect themselves.
Quarterbacks who take advantage of the protection rules have nothing to do with this specific situation. Why does everyone keep bringing it up?
They're making a "boy who cried wolf" argument essentially.
Trevor Lawrence gotta take responsibility for not giving himself up earlier ..the suspension was excessive and prolly was based that it was Trevor who got hit
Bull
That and everyone's against aziz because of his religious preferences. I miss watching those big hits in football, but now we're closer to soccer.. it's sad how soft men are now days.
@ u said so much bro 🫱🏿🫲🏾💯🫡might as well play two hand touch or flag football
I just wish ppl would just say they don’t like TLaw. Because let it be Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, Herbert, Tua, Love, or any other QB these media outlets fawn over. They’d have different takes. It’s clear TLaw was sliding, so miss me with “it’s a bang/bang play”, “what is the defender supposed to do?” Azeez had clear intent and he’s a repeat offender for blatant cheap shots.
Trevor Lawrence is overrated and you know it. 💯
@@arthurmalonell115way to let the point go over your head…
@kdubbss0583 That same player (Al-Shaair) made a similar dirty play on Caleb Williams back in Week 2 with a late hit out of bounds. And then when Bears players proceeded to confront him for it, he hauled off and punched a Bears player in the face who was standing on the sideline and had nothing to do with nothing and wasnt even involved in any of it. Guess what the refs did ? Looked the other way. No flag on the late hit, no flag on the unprovoked punch to the face. This dickheads karma has been way overdue and I'm glad he's finally getting it one way or another
he’s not a blatant offender, even that is misleading. there have been stories all year about players getting fined for routine penalties. look at azeez’s list and you’ll see one on there was for a facemask. i’m sorry that shouldn’t count against him. if getting a facemask counts towards your “record” then half the league has an extensive record and needs a longer suspension if they do something. its just dumb. the chicago thing earlier this year? the hit on caleb was fair he didn’t get out of bounds, the punch after? yeah he should have got a game. that’s one event. the rest on there are all for penalties the NFL randomly started fining for. there have been running backs getting fined for hitting defenders this year. when do they get suspended?
@@pluginpandawhat about grabbing Brady by the throat in ‘22? Moreover, even if you believe his list of infractions are bang/bang plays, the fact he’s been warned MULTIPLE times to clean up the behavior? And he still didn’t.
Sometimes QBs put themselves in situations like this. Trevor saw that man a mile away and still slid late.
It looked to me that Lawrence started his slide after the defender was coming at him. It was more of a bang bang play. Lawrence was trying to use the slide rule to his advantage.
This is all happening in a matter of seconds at extreme high speeds
The Texans GM said the same about Deshawn Watson
Is that the same GM? If so, smh
And then traded him for 3 1st rounders. Dont you think it was more about that. 😂😂😂😂
@ he’s a good GM a bad judge of character, bad choice of words!
Deshaun never played a snap under Caserio
@@jamiethomas5849they just be talking
Whoa... he got 3 games because of who he hit. Texans should be pissed. The league is not being consistent. There was no progression or escalation of disciplinary action. Consistency is key. That should have been the focal point of discussion.
I would suspend him for the rest of the season
Hawkins said " habitual line stepper" like Charlie Murphy called Rick James.😂😂😂😂😂😂
3 game suspension for that is crazy to me. I didn't know about his prior offenses but I agree with dude in the blue jacket, he should have definitely been suspended for some of them and definitely that punch thrown in that Bears game.
The qb sliding should have to protect themselves. The sliding right before you get hit is crazy kinda. It’s alot like in hockey when a player turns right before getting hit and creates a hitting from behind scene. Games to fast to stop on a dime
Defense players shouldn't launch.
@@tom4150 QB's should not slide late
@Saberwolves84 I agree the timing of the slide was too late. I don't think Trey realized how fast he was coming. If a player is coming at you that fast a QB start running towards the sidelines and cut.
Basic rule for the Defensive Players...Dont go for the Legs/Knees...Dont go for the Head. You can literally end a players career, with such a hit. Its really not that complicated. Azeez Al-Shaair looked like he was trying to decapitate Trevor Lawrence. The suspension was justified. Period.
That makes no sense the game is played at a high speed. Some guys can’t be tackled unless you go for their knees/legs(Derrick Henry). So the defense is supposed to let the offense score to protect them???
How about we put flags around the waist ? If you ever played the game the things you are saying is harder than it seems .
Trevor Lawrence is 6’4 210+ . I wanna see you tackle him in a safe way .
The sliding rule is bs. I've seen multiple qbs fake slide and make game changing plays
Ion care what qb do… that was a dirty play period by a dirty player
Yall really never watched football pre 2000 eh?
@ yea rules were different… I like physical football but that was dirty
@@kenosabiI’ve seen Brady get a roughing the passer call because he got tapped in the face tf are you talking about
Launching is illegal and dirty play . You don't know common sense @@kenosabi
@tom4150 Yall are just part of the new, weak population.
Josh Allen did this once and it was more of a stop start to change direction than fake slide. Josh Allen does a fake throw more on the run...that's it!
Most QBs don’t fake slide so it’s pretty ridiculous to me. Fake going out of bounds thing is more of a thing than fake sliding, even with the plays some claim are a fake slide it’s very arguable imo
It's concerning that an NFL GM doesnt know that hit is illegal.. Its more concerning that he would act outraged when this player has had at least 7 fines/warnings for dirty play leading up to this incident.
Okay James, we can tell you let your son paint his nails😂
YOu are missing what he is outraged for. His issue is consistency from teh league. As has been said, their are similar hits that were fined or suspended at all and the only reason he got hte harsh penalty is because of what happened to Lawrence. The penalties have to be consistent regardless of who made the hit and who got hit.
@@chriskay1449 That dirty hit will get flagged and fined every time. This guy has consistently got himself into trouble for his dirty play.. Very consistently!
@@crazycatlady4391 Go pluck your chin whiskers trailer court granny
@@JamesKennedy-t9h You are missing the point. When talking consistency we are talking consistency across the league. As I said it has been brought up that similar hits were not flagged or fined. The hit should be fined regardless of who the player is. NFL seems to pick and choose who gets fined for the hit and bases it on who you hit.
Sliding rule needs to be removed. You should be able to hit the QB
Azeez has a history of dirty plays.
Shut up. Go watch soccer
Shut it, fairy.
I bet more QBs have been knocked out with the slide than if they just got tackled.
Dude lead with his forearm. This is a non-story. He would not have been suspended if it was just about a late hit. Dude is a dirty player and threw a forearm at someone’s head.
Yah he pretty much launched himself. That's the problem I have with it. I think the consequences were fitting.
If you leave the pocket and are running in the open field in my opinion you are fair game. You are a QB. Not a running back.
Should the QB be allowed to slide sure.
Doesn’t mean you should get an special treatment.
Then you can limit this kind of BS.
Let the defense play defense.
We remember all the great defenses of years gone by not bc they were nice, but because they were fearsome and you knew they were going to bring it.
Nick Caserio is so full of sh't.. Anybody who knows football and has eyes can see that Lawrence slid a good 3-4 yds before the hit. Al-Shaair had to even nosedive downward to make sure he made contact with his forearm shiver..Dirty hit dirty player and now we know they have a dirty GM
Belichick tree
It was a forearm to the face/head=never legal. There's nothing to argue. The guy already punched two other players in the face this year, the GM was being a fool...
He's a dirty player with a history of dirty plays
@therocket280z7 And one of those players he punched after he made a dirty late hit on their QB and got confronted for it. But he's so dumb he punched a random bystander instead of the players actually confronting him SMH
Al-Shaair on the field is putting other players health on the line when it isn’t necessary. He is irresponsible and dangerous. Off the field is completely irrelevant. Guy in white shirt was on point.
How is attempting to break somebody neck playing defense?
Lmao you’re a 🤡
According to Texans fans commenting here, a illegal forearm to the face is legal retribution for someone trying to scratch a couple more yards.
Which makes sense when Texans players have never, and will never, bend a rule 😂
@ I’m a Texans fan. And if cj tried to get some extra yards like that the defender should try and take his head off too….
Trevor Lawrence sliding puts his head in a dangerous position. He slid too late.
You're not smart. If you actually watch the film instead of being an emotional child, you'll see that he hit him in the shoulder first and then he slid up to his neck because that's how movement works.
Don't be a girl or a child and this won't be so difficult to understand.
get rid of sliding. no more giving yourself up cuz u dont wanna get hit. once u take off as a runner, ure fair game. but in the end in dont matter cuz football is dying. adding bureaucracy to the sport will finish it
Not one of you can produce footage of Mahomes fake sliding.. Not even once!. As far as skirting the sideline to get a couple more yards..every WR and RB does it to, its part of the game. If they're still in bounds when you hit them you wont be flagged..if theyre even an inch out of bounds then its a penalty and its going to be called. Its up to defenders to have awareness of where they are on the field before they hit.
There has only been 1 clip of it
If you don't know that QBs are treated differently than WR/RBs, then why are you talking at all?
Enough of your they/them opinions.
@@Tom-q6b Theyre treated differently in the pocket..the NFL has decided that for the safety of QBs..but once theyre a ball carrier that protection is removed. The very same hit would have been a penalty against a RB or WR that gives themselves up and slides. You may not like it but its the rules. So go wine to the NFL rules committee..not to me just because you dont understand the rules or dont agree with them
@@pcd565 Mahomes has never fake slid..nor can anyone produce evidence of it
@JamesKennedy-t9h you're a goofball. Saw a clip of it yesterday.
QBs need to be forced to slide sooner, many seem to invite the foul because 15 yards is huge in a close game. The hit was wrong but no running the ball 'to the edge' either.
I don't buy the idea "You can't play defense anymore" The BEST defense in the NFL is the Philadelphia Eagles. And guess what? They are BULLIES. They hit hard, but they play smart. They aren't dirty. They are physical and they will out physical you. Its more of a lack of Defensive coaching talent in the NFL than the inability to play defense because of the rules...
I concur, I can't remember any of our players make an egregious or dirty hit over the last 5 yrs. Our players have made hard hits and great plays but rarely anything dirty. I can't speak for other cities but Philly has a great front office and the professional character flows down from the owner and GM. Houston clearly doesn't have this, how can they defend Al-Shaair?
Couldn’t agree more . Physical =doesn’t dangerous . What Azieez did was try and put a man in the hospital . That’s not skillful , physical , or good defense . It’s just bad .
Jordan Love and the Packers would disagree with the claim they aren't dirty. What the Eagles did to him was beyond dirty.
@@chriskay1449 What? You mean tackle him? Get out of here you clown. There isn't a sane person out there that thought there was any intent to hurt him.
@@chriskay1449 That was tough to watch. Jordan Love is a good guy and a great QB. Glad he's back on the field.
If Joe Mixon got hit like this, it wouldn’t even be news
If it was Vontaze Burfict nobody would be debating the dirty play. If it was Mahomes no one would debate the slide. It was a dirty play hands down. Sliding is a dumb thing but until the Tush Push is gone this will still be accepted.
This ain’t baseball…stop the cap. This guy deserved a 1 game suspension. The the appeal is likely to get the penalty downgraded to a2 game suspension. He’s a multiple offender. It has to be about the one hit. If he got official warnings then the fine may be warranted. I’ve always advocated to outlaw baseball sliding. Lead with the taped forearm to the head was stupidity. He’ll be fresh for down stretch. Nothing will change. NO SLIDING.
You can use as much word salad as you want. But that Forarm shiver to the helmet was intentional and deliberate. It wasn't close to the sidelines. He wasn't trying to fake the defender out. The defensive player had a choice and he made it.
That’s not right… he turned himself into a runner he didn’t hit him when he was down
It needs to be changed to a knee not a slide when someone intercepts the ball they never get lit up when they take a knee
You think someone running full speed can just randomly knee? He’d blow his ligaments out 😂
@ what you’re saying makes no sense if they are running full speed how can a defender react to them sliding then ?
I agree. I always thought the slide was dumber. I think taking a knee is faster. And there head will be farther from the ground
Once the QB is out of the pocket and starts to run, he should be considered a running back and hit like one. NFL is turning into the NBA- all offense no defense and terrible to watch
RBs can slide
"hit heard around the world" stop with the hyperbole. Only Americans heard about it and no one in the rest of the world gives af
I mean I don't really care but there are other fans from other countries who watch nfl
No that’s not true. Im not from the US but I follow the game
Sliding is dangerous. It puts your head in the target zone of the defender, without the ability to protect yourself. We need to ban the slide.
This is actually a solution, I’m not sure the NFL will do it as they prioritize QBs but this would make it easier on defenders.
I have to add that any position can slide as well though so that could cause an issue at some point
He was in the air about to hit Trevor Lawrence before Trevor even started sliding. This whole conversation is ridiculous because it was all Trevor Lawrence’s fault for sliding late. Not to mention quarterbacks run through tackles all the time.
Patrick Mahomes fake the slide this year and scored a touchdown. Not to mention I saw Patrick Mahomes runner DB over to score a touchdown. What happens on a defensive back gets hurt because they didn’t intense their body before making a hit. Not tense in your body believe you exposed to take a hit equivalent to a crack back.
"We can't play defence any more." Incorrect. You can't play clumsy defence and needlessly injure a player because of being clumsy. This isn't tough, it's reckless and low-skill.
There’s a very simple way to fix this. When a qb crosses the line of scrimmage with the football they leave all there qb protection at the line. It’s not the job of the defense to protect the offense
That's already the case.
Don't launch. I obey the rules. Protection matters
@@cuencaguy9799 so you mean to tell me if a running back did that you seriously think a flag would’ve been thrown?
The call out of Kuechly was great. I wish there was more of that conversation. Our favorite and probably best LBs probably have fine records that look insane. He defintely deserves a suspension but 3 feels excessive. I wonder if the league over-shot it knowing he'd appeal and then it comes down to a more reasonable suspension. We're talking about Azeez knowing that Trevor was sliding but where is the conversation about Trevor seeing Azeez coming in and not protecting himself? We see the viewpoint from behind Trevor and assume that Azeez had more time. Have we seen the viewpoint from behind Azeez to say maybe Trevor needed to slide earlier?
@tribadist He got suspended 3 games because this is stuff that he does REGULARLY but consistently gets away with it, and apparently the NFL was just fed up with it
Good guys off the field don't make egregious hits like that on the field. PERIOD. There have been lots of players that hit hard and made great plays (Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, etc.) but it'll be hard to find clips of them making the types of hits Azeez has repeatedly made. This guy has no respect for the game and for fellow players. And bad optics for the Texans GM defending this guy. It's refreshing the NFL had the backbone to call out the bad character of this player.
qbs didn’t even give them a chance to do what azeez did cuz they’d go down way early, i see ray lewis running at me im dropping like some potatoes 😭
Ray Lewis killed a guy
Ray Lewis killed a guy
@@13aeddan LOL, good pt! No QB gonna go for extra yards when Ray Lewis running at 'em!
Better start changing the game otherwise the NFL is finished.
Seems relatively easy to solve. If a defender has to go down, towards the QB, then that is cause for fine/suspension. The QB is down/giving up. “Down” is the operative word. Player no longer vertical, he’s given up. Defender has to lower his body to hit that player seems to be a foul.
Simple: delete the QB rule and make it so when a QB is out of the pocket, it's their responsibility to protect themselves.
Why should they have special protection when they become ball carriers? 😏
If a qb leaves the pocket he should be considered a running back. That’s a clean hit this is a violent game
He is. It's already in the rules. It's not the timing of the hit; it's the style. That was a cheap shot with a forearm to the head.
You know a running back can slide right?
@cuencaguy9799 At that point in time his only other option was using his helmet, he made the right split second choice.
If they made a rule that QB's can only scramble for the 1st down and every inch after that doesn't count id laugh 😂😅...
Not defending the forearm...But Trevor Lawrence was running full steam ahead, completely upright. From the moment he showed signs of sliding to when the contact happened - less than 1 second. Ask the defenders that let up on Mahomes only to see him go past them.
Never ejected? Then this is mostly on the NFL! If he was ejected or suspended for a previous violation it’s possible he would have changed his play on the field and this wouldn’t have happened.
Kimberly Martin opinion does not matter get her off the show
and yours too.
@dreddmann6532 lol funny gal
Any player that leads the hit with the elbow to the head is intentionally premeditating an injury and should be held accountable, including being charged criminally.
this is crazy, the dude literally lunged with his elbows at the mans head, how are they defending that, stop the foolishness they see that... talking about the texans GM
It's my impression, from the comments here, that Texans fans believe any rule bending deserves bodily harm, and that no Texans players ever bend a rule. 😂
I'm all for rules being implemented to protect the players BUT in a lot of these instances...the defensive player is watching the offensive player initiate the slide and they still keep coming to hit the player. As a defensive player you can see the other player dropping to the floor and pressing the eject button.
Forearm to the head... that is clear in the replay. That is illegal. Throw in his history for just this season. The suspension is 👌
Lmfaoooo awww look a B*^%*
If your out the pocket your a runner point blank period !
QBs trying to get away with late slides isn’t the case here lol. He was still standing when Trevor started the slide. It was a bad hit. He got suspended. Moving on
Ya’ll peep Kimberley smile when Hawkins said “Habitual line stepper”. I love us man😂🙏🏾
People that continue to defend dirty players blow my mind.
We understand you’re soft. It’s ok
@@SwayPromoyou’ve never played a high level sport in your life foh
@@SwayPromo It's not about being soft, it's about playing with respect for the game and for others. Brian Dawkins of the Eagles used to make the hardest hits, but you'll never find a clip of him making the type of hits Azeez has been guilty of.
@ like I said… soft
Have you? Basketball at the local park doesnt count
Great discussion from the panel. Key points were hit that needed to be addressed.
GET UP = nfl talk never never they have nba talk ridicules!!!!
Oh it's strictly a rating things. Football gives them better numbers, then they pivot to basketball post Superbowl
Gossip talk, it’s a dirty play, Draymond be getting suspended
The NFL is the most popular sport/money maker in the land. 99% of the country doesn't care about the NBA because the players don't even really try until the playoffs. ESPN= Needs to make money 😂
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