EXACTLY what I knew when this f414 deal was made, Americans won't give better offers as they're not desperate, I think Europeans could've agreed on collaboration and 100% tot on developing an advanced turbo fan while India buys that same company's aircrafts (mrfa or transport/refuellers) and jet engines for tejas. That would be a sweet deal for us and them as well.
This is the point overlooked Safran has the greatest incentive/vested interest in a deal with India They will be getting a 5th gen engine practically at India's cost So less likely to act crooked/abandon/blackmail (apart from France being intrinsically more trustworthy More so post AUKUS backstab ;)) They will also want India to partner in FCAS The only point that remains is how to tie their (financial & engine) interests with ours A profit sharing agreement would be fine France can also source the engine (at cost or minimal cost+) for the Rafale F-5
at India's cost" is an exaggeration. Were you born yesterday ?. Have you not seen how Pennywise pound foolish our political system and Defence bureaucracy is.
@@coolkal7590 haha fool . which other two have such engine ?? . R-R doesnt have engine in 110+ category, so it will be JV in both cases and even GE doesnt have 110+ kN variant of GE414 yet.
I have a gooooooood ideal! India has the most amasing technology of Braaaaaahmos witch can beat the whoooooole world, it is easy to exchange any technology wanted. love from China HY province.
No company will transfer their core technologies or IPR to another company or country. The only way to acquire these is to either build them up through long term investment in research, with failures on the way, or to go into a 50/50 cost and risk share development partnership with a developer/manufacturer. This is more likely to be possible with Safran or RR than GE as additional cash will effectively part fund their own development of a new engine thus reducing their unit cost and financial risk. An MOU is just an intention to talk, nothing more. Those who believe that GE will do technology or IPR transfer are dreaming and will be disappointed in the long term.
To call the memorandum of understanding between HAL and GE for manufacture of ge-414 aero engines as a DONE DEAL IS A MISNOMER ,atmost it can be described as a FEW STARTING STEPS of a journey of many miles to reach anywhere near to a destination of a done deal to manufacture ge-414 engines in India.
By look of it and with reference to past history of India, they will go for both GE and french Safron... anyway Indians won't remain dependent on US for long due to past experience of US deals for uranium supply and transfer of cryogenic technology. .. US has nasty habbit of ditching from agreements...
Safran actually delayed the engine deal. India wanted to partner Safran but they weren't ready for ToT. Now that GE has capitalized on the opportunity they have again come back to further delay the whole process.
Ig the most important thing to consider in TOT of jet engine technology is even if we get the 'how' of making jet engines, the most important component is to know the 'why' because even if the technology is transferred to us without knowing the 'why', we can't be completely self reliant on making our state of the art jet engines in the coming future. P.S. I'm not an defense aspirant so please correct me if im wrong.
You are right in saying that. We already know the how, it's not that 'kaveri' engine doesn't work. It's being used in smaller projects. We are just not able to get the projected power out of it, and sustained afterburner performance ofcourse.
We already know the 'why' part as have already made a kaveri engine. ( Why means the theory part as per myself) What we do not know completely is the 'how' part. how to upgrade the kaveri. How to design the exhaust nozzles to generate a stable afterburner section etc.
No need for technology transfer of jet engine to India by foreign countries because India have great scientist like baba ramdev and sakhsi Maharaj and so many
GE F414 is best as despite Safron jokes in creating uprated M 88 which they called high thrust while only having 90kn is just so hilarious. GE is best as GE has experience in stealth aircraft engine technology like that used in F 35 the XA100 Also F 414 ecosystem already exists with MRO and all surplus spares and maintenance know how
We should go with rolls royce offer as they accepted to provide intellectual property rights, export rights, 100% transfer of technology which is not available in American and french offer.
Such hi-tech always comes with strings attached. Besides whenever such high technology is transferred a lot of negotiations and regulations will follow. Where and how we can use it will be controlled throughout the period of such cooperation. That's how it is. If we don't do it, we will never get the worlds most advanced and complicated tech, i.e. jet engines. Start now. Make the first important step.
Why on earth would anyone do such a thing , let say we manufacture our very own engine are we willing to transfer complete 100% tot to anyone I don't think so .
Nah Bro! Money is everything. No company if offered money for their not so old engine and a lot of orders for the same + joint development of an advanced version+ trust that the technology won't be leaked will be ready to share it.
I still belive india should fast track this selection process and go ahead with RR any how development of a new engine from scratch will take 10 yrs, and instead of 110kn we should aim for 130/140kn
No one will give full technology.... The best way to do this is for private players like Tata get into aerospace where they can pay salaries that can attract the best talent in the world. Will cost about $1 billion to get 100 of the best talent in the world... Including in metallurgy which also they have a business in... With the public sector companies they are restricted with salaries and bureaucracy which is not there with the private sector
Aj mene ek negative article para but bohot positive laga .... HAL is underperforming, GE conceds HAL, AMCA TEDBF AMCA Mc II Tejas Mc 1 A all on papers, space engine ban chuka India ne but not jet engines
It is extremely difficult to make people understand that transfer of technology is entirely different thing that what it sounds. But anyway this video tried to make things clear to some extent. For example any company that allows 100% manufacturing TOT of it's own engine, will make sure that critical materials like alloys and super metals and composites are imported directly from them. Thus, without the help of that company, we cannot make even a single engine by ourselves. Even though the entire engine is manufactured here. The alloys come in bulk from abroad. We have to heat it and create shapes as per requirement and then put in the engine. Infact the reason kaveri did not become success was because of poor material technology. Thus we need to have our own 100% material technology as well as 100% manufacturing technology to be completely independent. And all the talk and discussion in media is about the TOT of manufacturing part. No one talks about TOT of material part as that nobody ever offers that. And that too all rukus is about the percentage of manufacturing technology.... 50% or 80%. Forget 100%. Thus TOT of manufacturing technology is not that important as it has very little to do with our own indigenous effort. It will be of least significance for kaveri project. What we need is material technology for kaveri.
Indian requires three types of engin 1. 80-85kn ,2. 95-100kn ,3. 120kn of dry thrust, now India already signed a MoU with GE, now how India will go to France (Safran) for another MoU !
lekin engine core ki technology GE share nahi karega . . . kuch waqt pehle aap hi ke video kaha gya ki Safran engine core technology India ke saath nahi karega . . . aab aap kahe rahe ho ki Safran full TOT dene ke liye ready hai . . . IP rights woh dega lekin badle mein woh royalty fees ke demand kar sakte hai that maybe as much as 50% of the engine cost jo India kabhi nahi dega . . . TEDBF ke liye Safran ki turbofan engines sahi hoga . . .
General Electric is always better than Saffran , because US economy is risk free because if god forbid Europe goes into war than everything will stall but on the other hand No one will mess with US and technologically also US is way ahead in defence they are trend setter in this field and i think our airforce also wants piece of that Technical know how , France on the other hand has no steady future politically , economically, technologically etc.
Yeh sab development dekhkar lag raha hai ki anewale decades mein bhi Indian MOD sirf jhaat ka Self Reliant hoga! 😐 Lagta hai ki US intelligence agencies abh bhi kuch desh ka system chalati hain jisme India bhi hai!!
@@nishantshrivastava9674not just France but most of Europe is desperate as US is stealing their market share, war is killing their economy , future looks bleak for Europe as more & more Competition from US & China taking away their market share
@@Unknown-sh8kw U r so delusional.. Europe especially France isn't that desperate as it appears on Indian RUclips channel. Dassault has full order for Rafale till 2030 . UAE has ordered 80 Rafales, Indonesia has ordered 42 Rafales, Egypt has ordered 40+ Rafales.. and many more to come from Asean countries. That's why France denied for local production of Rafale with HAL and denied full TOT even for 114 Rafale order. They didn't even give full TOT of scorpeane class submarines..
There's no point,the core technology is in the material,china was able to copy the wp5 engine before 1956, but it only produced the first modern engine ws10 in recent years because of material problems
Please produce videos in new format having you in front of camera. Please produce videos in long duration format like The Liberal Hindu. I hope you will reply positively.
Technology ke naam pe churan khilaya ja raha hai , kisi bhi jet engine sabse important part uske crystal blades hote hain jo America nahi dene wala toh kaisa technology transfer hua matalab paint kaise karenge yeh sikhaya jaayega😢😢
ab de rahe hai yaar ye log..pehle hi de dete naa..Americva jaane ki zaroorat nahi padti..phir bhi thik hai der aaye durust aaye...de do bhai america se cancel kar denge deal
1.5 billion people and v can't make an engine....today as I write Iran completed all its test on an aircraft engine...look at drones they have produced
Spending 3 billion dollars on a drone is highly questionable. The Indian armed forces' pursuit of advanced weaponry and the enormous financial commitment involved raise concerns. The Russian-Ukrainian conflict has made it evident that there is no miraculous weapon. Quantity can indeed bridge the technology gap, and we can find affordable options in the market without compromising on quality. Unfortunately, some Indian RUclipsrs present flawed arguments by unjustly comparing our situation with that of other nations. It is important to recognize that other countries do not face adversaries like China and Pakistan, and we must consider our financial constraints as a nation. We have more cost-effective alternatives at our disposal, including drones, attack helicopters, and fighter jets. The rationale behind allocating such a significant amount of funds to wonder weapons eludes me. China's military budget of 300 billion dollars enables them to build MQ-9-type drones at a fraction of the cost. I firmly believe that a conflict with China is imminent within the next two years, and our level of preparedness is far from satisfactory.
Russian new engines aik option hu sakta he kyonka russia hamara stretegic partner raha he missile tech brahmis ki transfer bhe ki russia ne tou engines bhe kareta
Another chaotic blog! Several bloggers are active in his regard. These dithering jokers, masquerading Officials, are engaged in bad marketing exercise!
When you concluded - “I hope information clear rahi ho”, this time around you did not quite answer your question- whether a total ToT by any company is achievable? I think the plain and simple answer is never! We have to develop our own, learn from our mistakes and progress iteratively- just as China has done. It is not just the commercial interests of these companies that prevents total ToT, but the geostrategic interests also will force their countries not to do so
Hi, was reading this article on eurasian times written by Gp Cpt TP Srivastava (Retd) with title "End Of ‘Made In India’ Dream! No Indian Fighter Jet Will Fly With Indigenous Engine Until 2100 As DRDO, HAL ‘Concede’ To GE: OPED" It is mentioned there that India is going to stop its indigenous jet engine development program and will only use GE engines till 2100. That means, we are not going to see India's truly own fighter jet in our lifetime! Curious to know your reaction on this article.
If the French win the AMCA engine design contract, the US might place follow up with sanctions vs France. In which case, the Egyptians should be roped in for 30% manufacturing. Sanctions against Egypt will mean potential loss of unrestricted passage for US warships across the Suez canal. The Americans may be good at hitting home runs, but we need to counter that with kabaddi diplomacy.
Westren engine ka sb se bada issue h rigidity as yr engine bird crash ki vjh se bhi fail hojate h vhi russian engine me dhul mitti panchi kuch bhi chla jye they work 😂. We need to make high breed of both west + Russia iske liyee HAL best rhe ga 😊
M88 की production facility India में लगाऔ, और MRFA के 114 Rafael भी भारत मे बनाओ
Aur paise apke pitaji denge
MRFA mujhe nahi lagta pura hoga
french won't agree on full engine tot even if we buy 228 rafale... let alone 114.
M88 itne powerful nhi.. Power ki requirements zyada h.. Tejas mk2 k liye
It's impossible
EXACTLY what I knew when this f414 deal was made, Americans won't give better offers as they're not desperate,
I think Europeans could've agreed on collaboration and 100% tot on developing an advanced turbo fan while India buys that same company's aircrafts (mrfa or transport/refuellers) and jet engines for tejas. That would be a sweet deal for us and them as well.
But Tejas & possibly upto AMCA Mk1 already booked by GE ;)
❤de chupp bilkul chupp
jab ggaz wa hhind hoga tab yeh sab engine ummma k haat lag jayega..
@@urrasscal8380ummah ke rasool ko wasool kar denge hum
@@abhilashdas2460 1000 saal ki ghulami yaad hai ...
80% bhi bohot badi baat hai
Logo ko 100% technology chahiye esa nahi hota 20% india ko bhi kuch karna padega
Only manufacuring know HOW (not WHY) Not material & design level Labor class ToT ;)
Now only DRDO will tell this 80% is enough or not.
Its manufacturing tot dude
@@viveksorathiya2057 means we will not get to learn how to develop Jet engine from this deal
80% we already have 20% is what we need
This is the point overlooked Safran has the greatest incentive/vested interest in a deal with India They will be getting a 5th gen engine practically at India's cost So less likely to act crooked/abandon/blackmail (apart from France being intrinsically more trustworthy More so post AUKUS backstab ;)) They will also want India to partner in FCAS The only point that remains is how to tie their (financial & engine) interests with ours A profit sharing agreement would be fine France can also source the engine (at cost or minimal cost+) for the Rafale F-5
at India's cost" is an exaggeration. Were you born yesterday ?.
Have you not seen how Pennywise pound foolish our political system and Defence bureaucracy is.
@@AemondTomahawk Stupid rant Who pays for the project France or India? And France doesn't have such an engine as yet while the other 2 have
@@coolkal7590 haha fool . which other two have such engine ?? . R-R doesnt have engine in 110+ category, so it will be JV in both cases and even GE doesnt have 110+ kN variant of GE414 yet.
I have a gooooooood ideal! India has the most amasing technology of Braaaaaahmos witch can beat the whoooooole world, it is easy to exchange any technology wanted. love from China HY province.
Great video, JAI HIND!
No company will transfer their core technologies or IPR to another company or country. The only way to acquire these is to either build them up through long term investment in research, with failures on the way, or to go into a 50/50 cost and risk share development partnership with a developer/manufacturer. This is more likely to be possible with Safran or RR than GE as additional cash will effectively part fund their own development of a new engine thus reducing their unit cost and financial risk. An MOU is just an intention to talk, nothing more. Those who believe that GE will do technology or IPR transfer are dreaming and will be disappointed in the long term.
Great Explanation 👌
Good comparative analysis.
No country is fool enough to transfer engine tech, it will hamper their business.
Yea .. these defence yt has lost their minds
100% agree with the points.
Make a video on idzeliya 30 plz plz ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Self creative engine is the biggest mystery of the century.
Sir Please Make Video On F136 Engine
To call the memorandum of understanding between HAL and GE for manufacture of ge-414 aero engines as a DONE DEAL IS A MISNOMER ,atmost it can be described as a FEW STARTING STEPS of a journey of many miles to reach anywhere near to a destination of a done deal to manufacture ge-414 engines in India.
वेरी नाइस एंड डिटेल इंफॉर्मेशन
AIM tweet copy paste
Gyan matt pel
Sach kadwaa lagthaa hai.
By look of it and with reference to past history of India, they will go for both GE and french Safron... anyway Indians won't remain dependent on US for long due to past experience of US deals for uranium supply and transfer of cryogenic technology. .. US has nasty habbit of ditching from agreements...
Safran actually delayed the engine deal. India wanted to partner Safran but they weren't ready for ToT. Now that GE has capitalized on the opportunity they have again come back to further delay the whole process.
Hone de delay tujhe kya usse matlab
@@ns_8058then why you watching this channel
Ig the most important thing to consider in TOT of jet engine technology is even if we get the 'how' of making jet engines, the most important component is to know the 'why' because even if the technology is transferred to us without knowing the 'why', we can't be completely self reliant on making our state of the art jet engines in the coming future.
P.S. I'm not an defense aspirant so please correct me if im wrong.
You are right in saying that. We already know the how, it's not that 'kaveri' engine doesn't work. It's being used in smaller projects. We are just not able to get the projected power out of it, and sustained afterburner performance ofcourse.
Well the why question is answered by academia not defense manufacturers. Need to upgrade your country's academia for that.
that's not how TOT and why work lol, @@daniyalamed2960
We already know the 'why' part as have already made a kaveri engine. ( Why means the theory part as per myself)
What we do not know completely is the 'how' part. how to upgrade the kaveri. How to design the exhaust nozzles to generate a stable afterburner section etc.
MRFA के under Rafael बनाओ with made in India Safran jet engines
Bro
Recently news that Russia test six gen engine on su57
make video on that topic
Can you explain it more on next topic
Humko new ip hi banana padega. France ne pehle bhi offset me game kiya tha. Rr ka best offer hai with new ip.
No need for technology transfer of jet engine to India by foreign countries because India have great scientist like baba ramdev and sakhsi Maharaj and so many
😂😂😂😂
Yeh bro we also have pushpak viman
Travelling speed of light
No one transfer their complete critical tech, India have to spend more in Metallurgy research works.
Sir Please Make Video On Kaveri Engine
GE F414 is best as despite Safron jokes in creating uprated M 88 which they called high thrust while only having 90kn is just so hilarious.
GE is best as GE has experience in stealth aircraft engine technology like that used in F 35 the XA100
Also F 414 ecosystem already exists with MRO and all surplus spares and maintenance know how
We should go with rolls royce offer as they accepted to provide intellectual property rights, export rights, 100% transfer of technology which is not available in American and french offer.
Tu baat kar rr ke CEO se tujhe uski office mein ghusne bhi na de
They refused to provide engines for jaguar jets so we used us engine.. they are not reliable partner
Such hi-tech always comes with strings attached. Besides whenever such high technology is transferred a lot of negotiations and regulations will follow. Where and how we can use it will be controlled throughout the period of such cooperation. That's how it is. If we don't do it, we will never get the worlds most advanced and complicated tech, i.e. jet engines. Start now. Make the first important step.
Chal futt chaman C
Have we tried asking Chatgpt for manufacturing process of aircraft engine crystal blades?
❤ Jay Hind
Why on earth would anyone do such a thing , let say we manufacture our very own engine are we willing to transfer complete 100% tot to anyone I don't think so .
Nah Bro! Money is everything. No company if offered money for their not so old engine and a lot of orders for the same + joint development of an advanced version+ trust that the technology won't be leaked will be ready to share it.
American jet engine
Condition applied*
Saare dastavej dhyaan se padhe.
Fine print devil ;)
I still belive india should fast track this selection process and go ahead with RR any how development of a new engine from scratch will take 10 yrs, and instead of 110kn we should aim for 130/140kn
Tere believe karne se ghanta fark nahi padta
AMCA Mk2 will fly with an indigenous engine... Mark this comment...
In 2050
@@kartikeykasniya6971 within 12 years... By 2035...
Nikal madar14 chapri yaha se
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳
No one will give full technology.... The best way to do this is for private players like Tata get into aerospace where they can pay salaries that can attract the best talent in the world. Will cost about $1 billion to get 100 of the best talent in the world... Including in metallurgy which also they have a business in... With the public sector companies they are restricted with salaries and bureaucracy which is not there with the private sector
I think china reportedly invested around 50 bn $ to build the ecosystem.
I think china reportedly invested around 50 bn $ to build the ecosystem.
True it will take atleast 30-50 billion to build that eco system
Atmaram also important, why not we development at our own technology in 🤔💭 India 🇮🇳
Rolls Royce will be good company for collaboration because India is biggest market for European aircraft both civil and defence
Aj mene ek negative article para but bohot positive laga .... HAL is underperforming, GE conceds HAL, AMCA TEDBF AMCA Mc II Tejas Mc 1 A all on papers, space engine ban chuka India ne but not jet engines
It is extremely difficult to make people understand that transfer of technology is entirely different thing that what it sounds.
But anyway this video tried to make things clear to some extent.
For example any company that allows 100% manufacturing TOT of it's own engine, will make sure that critical materials like alloys and super metals and composites are imported directly from them.
Thus, without the help of that company, we cannot make even a single engine by ourselves. Even though the entire engine is manufactured here. The alloys come in bulk from abroad. We have to heat it and create shapes as per requirement and then put in the engine. Infact the reason kaveri did not become success was because of poor material technology.
Thus we need to have our own 100% material technology as well as 100% manufacturing technology to be completely independent.
And all the talk and discussion in media is about the TOT of manufacturing part. No one talks about TOT of material part as that nobody ever offers that.
And that too all rukus is about the percentage of manufacturing technology.... 50% or 80%. Forget 100%.
Thus TOT of manufacturing technology is not that important as it has very little to do with our own indigenous effort. It will be of least significance for kaveri project. What we need is material technology for kaveri.
i love my india
IPR is the main issue here, the one who is ready to give IPR to India should be selected 🤞🤞
Tu nikal chapri yaha se
@@ns_8058 IPR ka full form jaan le gawaar fir dusre ko chapri bolna
@@ThEEqualizer93intelectual property rights
So DRDO failed to produce jet engine. Can you make vedio how much USA technology used in France jet.
Tu bana le jet engine.
We had partial success in form of kaveri engine.
Bro, we were 95% successful... 80kn ki need thi hum log 72kn tak achieve kar chuke the...
Abe saale why don't you send your own kids to HAL,ADA and GTRE before commenting that *we failed to make our own engine*
@@indiansniper8100 Yes and it's dry varient had gone under limited series production (under Godrej) for use in 'Ghatak' UCAV.
If we cannot have our own Testing facilities
It is not crime
It is Sin of highest order !
Us engine option is best even with 80 percent it will be enough for i dian engine designers to tweek them up to 100 percent locally
Indian requires three types of engin 1. 80-85kn ,2. 95-100kn ,3. 120kn of dry thrust, now India already signed a MoU with GE, now how India will go to France (Safran) for another MoU !
TOT to theek IPR ka kya??
lekin engine core ki technology GE share nahi karega . . . kuch waqt pehle aap hi ke video kaha gya ki Safran engine core technology India ke saath nahi karega . . . aab aap kahe rahe ho ki Safran full TOT dene ke liye ready hai . . . IP rights woh dega lekin badle mein woh royalty fees ke demand kar sakte hai that maybe as much as 50% of the engine cost jo India kabhi nahi dega . . . TEDBF ke liye Safran ki turbofan engines sahi hoga . . .
INDIA SHOULD URGENTLY PURCHASE B 1 B LANCER LONG RANGE HEAVY STRATEGIC BOMBER PLANES FROM USA TO COUNTER CHINA
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without using thrust vec our airforce want to use this engine on 6th gen fighter?
What if partner country/ company transfer tech to enemy country?
We should try and developer our own proprietor doesn't matter if it takes 100yrs
Even Russia won't transfer engine tech tot to India.. Kaveri has to be modified.. hand over to pvt ...they will give results
Hum apna jet engine kab banayenge? Bahut jyada strong nahi to 70-90 kn ka hi bana le. Taki kisi k bharose na rahe
General Electric is always better than Saffran , because US economy is risk free because if god forbid Europe goes into war than everything will stall but on the other hand No one will mess with US and technologically also US is way ahead in defence they are trend setter in this field and i think our airforce also wants piece of that Technical know how , France on the other hand has no steady future politically , economically, technologically etc.
Yeh sab development dekhkar lag raha hai ki anewale decades mein bhi Indian MOD sirf jhaat ka Self Reliant hoga! 😐
Lagta hai ki US intelligence agencies abh bhi kuch desh ka system chalati hain jisme India bhi hai!!
Tere jaise gadhe bewakoof ko kuch nhi bolna chahiye
I don't think it will be a 'complete and transparent' technology transfer
can't we make a jv of hal and safran for all type of engine like brahmos jv
France is not that desperate.
May be Russia will be in coming decades.
@@nishantshrivastava9674not just France but most of Europe is desperate as US is stealing their market share, war is killing their economy , future looks bleak for Europe as more & more Competition from US & China taking away their market share
@@Unknown-sh8kw U r so delusional.. Europe especially France isn't that desperate as it appears on Indian RUclips channel.
Dassault has full order for Rafale till 2030 .
UAE has ordered 80 Rafales, Indonesia has ordered 42 Rafales, Egypt has ordered 40+ Rafales.. and many more to come from Asean countries.
That's why France denied for local production of Rafale with HAL and denied full TOT even for 114 Rafale order.
They didn't even give full TOT of scorpeane class submarines..
If Safran is selected then it will be a JV which can later extend to other areas
Safran is offering now
Do you think it's possible to modify the Ge F414 engine for use in the Sukhoi su 30 mki or Mig 29?.
From where will you get the rights?
Will US or Russia agree?
Tera baap Russia permission dega uski
Bhai hum mai or China mai fark hai Bina puche modify nahi kr sakte
There's no point,the core technology is in the material,china was able to copy the wp5 engine before 1956, but it only produced the first modern engine ws10 in recent years because of material problems
Please produce videos in new format having you in front of camera. Please produce videos in long duration format like The Liberal Hindu. I hope you will reply positively.
Technology ke naam pe churan khilaya ja raha hai , kisi bhi jet engine sabse important part uske crystal blades hote hain jo America nahi dene wala toh kaisa technology transfer hua matalab paint kaise karenge yeh sikhaya jaayega😢😢
Amca mark 2 kabhi bhi indian engine se nhi chalega ...
No!
ab de rahe hai yaar ye log..pehle hi de dete naa..Americva jaane ki zaroorat nahi padti..phir bhi thik hai der aaye durust aaye...de do bhai america se cancel kar denge deal
No one will..
Almost hua hai 😂😂 final nahi hua hai
1.5 billion people and v can't make an engine....today as I write Iran completed all its test on an aircraft engine...look at drones they have produced
Mein abhi bhi Putin ka frank se shock me hu 😅....
ager kisi k pass nimbu ho to bichwa dena
Bhikhari katora leke aa pehle
Spending 3 billion dollars on a drone is highly questionable. The Indian armed forces' pursuit of advanced weaponry and the enormous financial commitment involved raise concerns. The Russian-Ukrainian conflict has made it evident that there is no miraculous weapon. Quantity can indeed bridge the technology gap, and we can find affordable options in the market without compromising on quality. Unfortunately, some Indian RUclipsrs present flawed arguments by unjustly comparing our situation with that of other nations. It is important to recognize that other countries do not face adversaries like China and Pakistan, and we must consider our financial constraints as a nation. We have more cost-effective alternatives at our disposal, including drones, attack helicopters, and fighter jets. The rationale behind allocating such a significant amount of funds to wonder weapons eludes me. China's military budget of 300 billion dollars enables them to build MQ-9-type drones at a fraction of the cost. I firmly believe that a conflict with China is imminent within the next two years, and our level of preparedness is far from satisfactory.
100 % not possible
Russian new engines aik option hu sakta he kyonka russia hamara stretegic partner raha he missile tech brahmis ki transfer bhe ki russia ne tou engines bhe kareta
Too big for the aircrafts planned However I'm sure Russia will make cut down versions of it Additional option
Why India buy GE ENGINE BEST OFFER IS M 88 100 TOT IN MAKE IN INDIA
Another chaotic blog! Several bloggers are active in his regard. These dithering jokers, masquerading Officials, are engaged in bad marketing exercise!
Why don't you ask your blood brother Israel?
When you concluded - “I hope information clear rahi ho”, this time around you did not quite answer your question- whether a total ToT by any company is achievable? I think the plain and simple answer is never! We have to develop our own, learn from our mistakes and progress iteratively- just as China has done. It is not just the commercial interests of these companies that prevents total ToT, but the geostrategic interests also will force their countries not to do so
Why would anyone do that knowing the India's whole intention is to take the technology and dump them?
Here comes pakistani / wanna be Chinese troll
Hi, was reading this article on eurasian times written by Gp Cpt TP Srivastava (Retd) with title "End Of ‘Made In India’ Dream! No Indian Fighter Jet Will Fly With Indigenous Engine Until 2100 As DRDO, HAL ‘Concede’ To GE: OPED" It is mentioned there that India is going to stop its indigenous jet engine development program and will only use GE engines till 2100. That means, we are not going to see India's truly own fighter jet in our lifetime! Curious to know your reaction on this article.
If the French win the AMCA engine design contract, the US might place follow up with sanctions vs France. In which case, the Egyptians should be roped in for 30% manufacturing. Sanctions against Egypt will mean potential loss of unrestricted passage for US warships across the Suez canal.
The Americans may be good at hitting home runs, but we need to counter that with kabaddi diplomacy.
whats amca design contract
After understanding eco system of jet fighter manufacturing process F21 was better option for India
Operating American platforms comes with a huge price , look at the broader scheme of things , see what turkey is going thru
Performance wise yes geopolitically no
Westren engine ka sb se bada issue h rigidity as yr engine bird crash ki vjh se bhi fail hojate h vhi russian engine me dhul mitti panchi kuch bhi chla jye they work 😂. We need to make high breed of both west + Russia iske liyee HAL best rhe ga 😊
Source: Thin Air.
Western Engines are incredibly reliable and have long service lives. Russian engines have reliability issues. Ask anyone in the IAF.
Mera engine lga lo kuch teda h
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Bhai tere engine se udna to dur jet hilega bhi nahi😃😃🤣🤣
Ye manufacturing defect popat ko bhi thi.. Tbhi usne bola aage se katwa do.. Pta nhi chalega ki tedha h
RR तो पूरा ToT देने को तैयार था पता नही किस जमाने का हॉक विमान का फाइल निकल आया जांच एजेंसी के सामने
Paise bhi utne hi charge karta😂