Shower Shooting and the ”slavic release”
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2018
- SHOWER SHOOTING AND
THE "SLAVIC RELEASE"
The Shower Shooting is a traditional archery method in which the archer are grasping more arrows in his right hand in order to increase the rate of fire.
Obviously, this technique is working properly if the arrow is running on the right side of the bow.
Other condition, (specially on horseback), is to have the reserve arrows under control all the time, avoiding the possible interactions with the shooting or riding.
Keeping more arrows in the drawing hand is limiting the possibilities of locking the string with the fingers of the right hand (also the release technique), depending by the method of grasping the reserve arrows.
The most known variations of this technique, are described in the mediaeval Middle East military treatises.
The arrows can be placed one by one between the index, middle, ring and little fingers or can be grasped together in the fist, with the tips out of the hand, pointing forward or downward-sideway.
This methods are suitable mostly for the thumb release and the rate of fire is limited in this cases to 1,5-1,6 seconds (between two successive shots).
There is an other Shower Shooting method, which seems to be the oldest, (dated back in the Ancient Egypt, 20th century BC), and also the fastest.
One fresco from a Middle Kingdom's tomb (situated in Beni Hassan, Egypt), shows one war lord from the 12th dynasty, Khmenhotep II, during a bow hunt in desert, together with his sons.
The archers are drawing their bows while keeping more reserve arrows between their right thumb and index finger, grasped (more or less), near the nocks.
The great archery performance of the warrior Pharaoh Amenhotep II (1424-1398 BC), described on his stele from Karnak-Egypt, is based probably on the same technique variation.
He was able to shoot, from his war chariot at full speed, four arrows, (which he grasped previously together in his right hand), with high power and precision, in less than four seconds.
The video proves that, this very high rate of fire, (around 1,3 seconds between two successive shots), can be performed also by the horseback archers of our days.
The ancient Egyptian method of Shower Shooting, with the reserve arrows held between the thumb and the index finger, with the nocks supported inside the right hand, is not allowing the archer to use the thumb draw technique, (while the thumb is needed for keeping the reserve arrows in the right hand).
The only one reasonable solution for drawing the bow in this case is to keep the arrow on the right side of the bow with the index finger stretched along the shaft, and place the three lower fingers on the string.
In order to have an effective, powerful and safe drawing, at the end of the nocking operation the tip of the thumb is pressed gently on the second phalanx of the middle finger, separating the actual arrow to be shot from the others, keeping all the arrows under control, and giving more power to the drawing hook formed by the fist fingers. This arrangement of the fingers correspond with a later description of the "Slavic release" in the Mamluke and Moroccan archery treatises.
The "Sassanid release", (with the middle and ring fingers on the string and the pointer stretched along the arrow), it seems to be also less effective in performing the Egyptian Shower Shooting technique.
The tip of the thumb being placed behind the string in tis case, is more difficult to assure the control of the reserve arrows, comparing with the Slavic release.
(Since this drawing methods were used with many centuries before the Mamluke archery treatises to be written, the names "Slavic release" or "Persian release" are not historical accurate.
The majority of the horseback archers are using this terms because were inspired more or less reading books like Saracen Archery or Arab Archery, developing different opinions about the various techniques described there...
At the end, just the practice can provide the authenticity of the different traditional archery techniques.) -Mihai Cozmei 
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One has to wonder how much knowledge humanity has lost. Preserving and practicing these techniques from our past is incredible.
I can't emphasize how grateful I was to find this video last year, seeing and instructional video on shooting off the right side of the bow without having to use the thumb. I'm still at it, using the Slavic release, and working toward holding extra arrows. Thank you so much for this tutorial, man
i have read about this draw. you are like the historical drawings of archers from the 1600s come to life! respect beautiful technique i will try it
This is THE video, I have waited for, because I want to learn this method! Thank You and a Happy New Year to the Grandmaster Mihai Cozmei!
Fantastic as usual. Great start to the New Year.
I watched him shoot 10 times in a row. I just can't believe how good he is
Thank you for all the additional historical information in the description.
Amazing sharing of knowledge. Thank you, Grandmaster Mihai Cozmei. I am impressed seeing the way he said 'thank you' at the end of the video. Such humbleness in spite of great skills really make me respect him even more.
Very interesting. Thank you for showing us all this method.
Wonderful teachings. Amazing shooting and thank you for the lesson.
Impressive, thank you Mihai!
Thank you for sharing your amazing technique.
This is what (2018) Robin Hood uses, been wanting to learn it ever since :D thanks so much for actually explaining the details, I've gotta try it ASAP
What a fantastic video!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you am getting ready to start and am still learning the basic before my purchase. Again thank you.
Thank you for the detailed explaination.
Oh, i have been shooting like that for a while: fast, right side, slavic release, selfbow, but i never figured out how to hold the arrows. It's quite fast from a back quiver, too. Thank you very much for showing me the holding technique!
Thank you, very good, very clear.
Excellent. Thank you.
Superb video.
Thank you for this🙏
Un grand bravo et un grand merci
Mantaaabbb oom.....lanjutkeuun gaskeun!!! Salam indonesiaaa
This was also THE video i was waiting for. Thank you so much for your effort and time to gain this skills, and share them with us.
By the way: Do you know which method/release is used by lars andersen ?
Greetings :)
Well done.
from this video I've practiced it, thx you master
thank you, very good video
Damn! This is impressive speed.
I also pull with tumb finger over the nock and one finger or two below, so you can also twist the string and do bow tilt on release.
Thank you ! I'll try this :)
Fascinating
Thank you master...
Great. Thank You
Impressive!
3:29 listen to what he says about the thumb.
As for the anchor, I use my right ear with the arrows between; if it's that far along the side of my face (as opposed to using the corner of my mouth for Mediterranean draw) it swivels the aim to the left enough where you can still see the arrowhead and it should fly in the right direction. Plus, pulling it back that way---further than the lip---of course adds tension to the bow and gives the arrow an extra split second to adjust as it flies.
Tricky, I admit. But if you're so used to the 'standard' three finger split grip, this is an easier way to adjust than using the thumb or something (I use that analogy 'cause I've tried probably a hundred times with a tough thumb guard)
Thanks, I missed it and it's very useful.
This is really cool. I just bought a horse bow, or a close approximation, because I always thought that way of shooting was awesome. It says its a Hungarian style, but I'm no expert so I couldn't say. This should be fun to practice
Thank you
I shoot an angular bow with arrow on right side with khatra and this would be very useful. I hold the arrows in my bowhand which is faster than a quiver but this is more effective and with that pinky you are able to draw heavier bows as mine is 65 # at 32 inches. Plus my friend wanted to know how to hold more arrows while shooting that type of release because slavic and Mediterranean are quite similar and easy to learn. Thank you sir you have a new subscriber
Multumesc.
Fantastic! Bravo! Thank you for sharing! What kind of bow are you using?
Thanks for filling up the blanks that I had in mind. This video has provided quite a lot of detail. How many pounds your bow is ? What specifically the bow is called? Do you use carbon fibre arrows aswell or you stick with wooden arrows?
Mihai shoots with his own design bow, the Living Arrow bow. The poundage of the bow in the video is 38 at 28" (max draw 28") He also shoots with same bow but 43 and 46 pounds at competitions. Mihai shoots only with carbon arrows, these are carbon too (if I remember correctly Traditional by Gold Tips)
Living Arrow & Iberico Finland Videos . Thank you very much for replying .
Thanks, do you also have a technique for holding arrows in the bow hand?
Thank you for this teaching! 🙏🏼
How do you prepare the center serving of the string? - what draw weight do you use?
Good video. Who inspired you?
nice
Благодарю.
I have a bow like your bow from hungry but I think that s mixed hungriN and tatar .that grip same tatar bow.please say about style of your bow.Your bow is Hungarian steel?
its quite similiar with lars andersen style right? but i really like it
Pretty sure that is what he uses, at least about 90% similar I'd say. As he's put it---"And there was someone who said that I mix together archery from different cultures, and that's true too, but I think it's a little more complicated".
In his videos you can see him holding multiple arrows pretty much that same way in his draw hand and shooting fluidly and fast.
It's funny to me how so many of these methods would seem 'impossible' 'ridiculous' and 'clunky' if it wasn't for the fact that you demonstrate them. When you grasped those arrows your pinky and ringfinger I thought to myself 'How the hell are you supposed to do THAT?'. But when you do it, it's effortless! Shows I guess how wrong instinct can be sometimes...
What arrows you recommend to use for slavic draw - 2 or 3 feathers and what length (2-4 inches)?
Can this method be used effectively with heavy poundage bows?
I think slavic draw and persian draw are once.Is it right?
I trained this style of draw for a while but could never get the same precision that I get with thumb draw or mediteranean. My feeling is that since the opening of my fingers goes into the direction of the bow, I the bow gives my arrows a kick to the right that is tough to account for and my Kathra seems insufficient to avoid it.
Anyone else with the same problem or tips ?
Please explain us how to properly release the arrow with this type of draw so that it flies straight because sometimes it will go to the right too much.
Its probably because you have to compensate for the arrow going right since you're shooting off the right side
@@Daylon91 Khatra, roll of the wrist.
@@flightographist that helps it fly straight and torque not from going to the side. The arrow will ALWAYS be offset on a proper traditional bow.
@@Daylon91 I am a noob, fascinated with the eastern styles. I'm going to go that way.
@@flightographist so am I but my point holds true every bow except centre fires shoot off centre meaning you have to compensate
Nice demonstration. Inspiring. How you make shure that the Feathers in right Position. Or ist it that you don't care when you go to fast Shooting?
Turning the nock 90 degrees - then it doesn’t matter. In full gallop in horseback not very practical otherwise 😁 - Katariina Cozmei
@@LAHBA I am not shure I understand. Usely one feather is supposed to aim straight away to the Skyline and away from the bow. And now 90degree from that a turn?
Check the video I posted 11 month ago, it’s either about different quivers or draws I think I touched the subject there. Katariina Cozmei
Правый локоть допустимо держать вниз или он должен быть в горизонтальной плоскости?)
teknik slavic 👏👏👏
He's not quite as fast as Lars Andersen but his aplomb and seamless dynamic motion makes Lars look like an amateur in archery.
Well Mihai is a horseback archer and not trick shooter ;) Andersen is also fabulous in what he is doing but horseback archery requires slightly different training and techniques.
he has faster 10 arrow record then lars. and not wit ha toy bow.
Lars is okay
thank you, ill have to try this method, what poundage bow?
Will Blue Archery this one is 38 but Mihai shoots also with 42-48
@@LAHBA thank you :)
Mihai, this draw same like the sassanidan or persian draw right? If i remember well maybe in the Saracen Archery call this draw "thirth method, with three finger like the slaves.." similar the original it's right?
@@tvez1 Hi it's Mihai's secretary/assistant/wife Katariina :'D Yes it's "slavic" draw!
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He looks like the fire nation from avatar
Hard but faster than mamluk maybe
Now i know dat i dont shot slavic, i shot A MIX beetwen slavic, persian and thumb draw :)
from what i know slavic and persian draw are the same draw or very fimiliar, and always remember that slight modification don't mean you are not using that technique :) also i recommend this book www.thelongbowshop.com/products/the-art-of-shooting-a-short-reflexed-bow-with-a-thumb-ring there is also german version :) You can find here lot's of interesting things about bows, and techniques
I am curious how the Turks shot their arrows thumb style with their historical arrows and not ruin their fletchings because they are way up there. Even slavic the fletchings are too close so your fingers are all over them. The arrows Mihai uses are modern arrows with lower fletchings.
nincs magyar szinkron.egy szót sem értek...
Learn english perhaps?
Slavic ? This is not slavic technique!
amazing mr mihay ruclips.net/channel/UC6nGKTQSW8zSG2jNH6J9sRA
Thank you
Thank you