I can't wait for this whole ordeal to be over. I think this 'voice' debate has done a lot of damage and forced people to take sides. Where there was once good will and cooperation, now there is division and mistrust. Thanks for the check-in.
I was at times emotional watching and listening to a future Prime Minister, Jacinta,,,, what a beautiful eloquent and articulate woman Bess has raised.
I could see that she would cop an enormous amount of criticism for some of the things she said in her speech. Very brave indeed. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if she does go on to be Prime Minister. I won’t always agree with her, but that’s not the point, we should have the right to speak our minds without being abused.
@pseudechis Dunno Fain's biases or have read the article, does he live nearby or up in that part of the country?? Jacinta Price does and I'd trust local knowledge over southern city based abc hacks any day 😀 like I said I'll be catching up soon enough
There were optics with Jacinta Price's press conference. Firstly, the dinning room was being renovated, so everyone was moved into the broom cupboard. That sets the tone for the National Press Club. Secondly, the MC coped a bit of blow back because he joined in the Guardian reporters' 'Gotcha' moment that backfired badly, the Guardian reporter came in a second time for a slam dunk moment and got slam-dunked himself. Followed by the MC for the press club, who one would think would be neutral to any topic discussed. He just got an answer that left him in the wash as the Titanic Jacinta just ploughed ahead. Australia is falling in love with this woman.
Jacinta Price has done herself, and maybe the whole country a great service with her dignity, composure and common sense. I feel like she has put a very strong case forward to be our PM one of these days.
Senator Price for PM. She would put an end to the Labor, Greens and Teal racist, divisive Apartheid legislation. Racism is a 360-degree disease, I hate it, I cannot and will not support Labor's racist Voice Legislation.
Voting NO and absolutely appalled at the way Albanese and the Yes-men have damaged this nation in their attempt to get their way acting like spoilt brats.
You are good man Wes, amidst all of this and your own content, you find time to help everyone take a breath. Keep it up mate, i think you are doing a great job educating folk both on referendum and biscuits.
STAND UP STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, STAND UP STAND UP AND BE COUNTED! BLACKFELLA WHITEFELLA DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR COLOUR, AS LONG AS YOU TRUE FELLA, DON'T MATTER WHAT YOUR COLOUR! IF WE TO MAKE IT WE WILL MAKE IT!@
I had a work colleague ask me about the voice and which way to vote as she was undecided my reply was "what are you voting yes to" she said i don't know ive looked and looked and cant find what it is. Shes now decided to bote NO
@@joblow3638 As an example of "no functional detail", look at taxation. Taxation affects pretty much every adult Australian throughout most of their lives - but do you know how much "functional detail" about taxation there is in the Constitution? None at all: there is a single sentence that says "The Parliament shall have power to make laws with respect to taxation" - that's it. This is because the Constitution is never the place for functional detail. It is up to Parliament to flesh-out the details. Having said this, the proposed Constitutional change for the Voice does contain one very important functional detail: that the Voice will only ever be able to give advice. Some people think the Voice will become a negotiating body for things like treaties, etc. That cannot happen. The Constitution will not allow the Voice to do anything except give advice - not even Parliament could change this.
Hello Wesley. I would like to sincerely thank you for providing us Australians with such well prepared, informative and relatable subject matters leading up to our current referendum. Your our down-to-earth logical guidance has benefited me in learning more on this matter so that ‘I know why I am voting when I vote.’ I like the setting, format and delivery of your videos. Watching, I have been impressed with what you researched and know and I think you kept to the subject very well. In say this, I would like to let you know that you and your work are very much appreciated. You have helped Australia greatly. Sincerely, Paul
@@joblow3638 I was quoting you. You said "I want to see people handed a bad life, start lifted up" - how would they "start lifted up"? Also, why do you exclude Closing the gap programs as NOT part of "community"?
I love your gentleness and even temper. Mostly I like that you are clearly compassionate with neither naivety nor sentimentality as so many in this debate seem to be.
@@mathish1477 ""Every time the No case raises one of their arguments, if you start pulling it apart you get down to base racism, I'm sorry to say it, but that's where it lands. Or just sheer stupidity." She is referring to the claims made by the No campaign - not to the voters.
I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for your contribution to my 180 degree decision. I also want to acknowledge your efforts on ABC’s the Drum tonight. As a long time ABC viewer, I am becoming more and more concerned with their increasingly bias editing of news and it’s narrative in general. Thank you for at least trying to put your respectful views! Kind regards Darren
Why? The referendum is about our constitution. It effects all of us regardless of race. As far as Parliament goes, Indigenous Australians are actually over represented there at the moment. Nobody minds. These people were all elected.
A No vote could change the whole world for the better but we'll have to argue for it. Nations should all comply with the UN Convention on the Elimibation of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Article 1(4) says it all.
@@AnotherDoug Not 'we' will- YOU will continue to fail them- as you admit you have up to now. What makes you think yoi're onto a winner now? If a man keeps writing off his car, and every time he replaces it he gets himself a better or nicer one, he's a fool. If someone else pays for the better car, the incompetent driver has no incentive to improve, and the person paying for it is a fool. if everything you've done up to now has failed what makes you think this suggestion of yours is a winner? Double or nothing?
@@youbigtubership To continue with your tortured analogy, the Voice won't be a replacement for the car, it will give us good advice on how to keep the same car but drive it more effectively, efficiently (and safely)
@@AnotherDoug Okay, let's say it gets in. How would you guarantee to me, an Australian, that the Aborigines who alone as a racial group will have control over the selection process for membership of the round table, won't in 5, 10, 20 years' time, decide that indigenous interests align better with (for example) China's or the USA's interests more than with mine, and start using my tax contributions to represent anti-Commonwealth interests at every level? You can't. Or what if one half-Aboriginal community, say the Indian-Aboriginal community or a cashed up religious group get control of it and start pushing their agenda against the interests of other Aboriginal tribes? Who would get the government's ear? The Voice, or the little self-funded group of Aborigines who have to represent themselves? You'd have no protection. Of course, we know that the political parties would be able to use it to interfere with the policies of their political enemies via the Executive, and it will be used that way. You're opening up abuse of process. You can guarantee against none of these realistic possibilities. So how on earth can you claim this would be a safe way of recognizing them? It is racism, and while you claim the Voice would represent all Aborigines, that's a hoax as bad as any political party 'no Australians left behind' pkedge.
TROJAN HORSE AT WORK 1) Looking at the impacts of Aboriginal Traditions to this day: Psychology, Sociology. Anthropology and common-sense would analyse them as being Spiritual: as such should be untouched by Legislation, unless illegal acts are committed, and then this is what, and only what, should be focused on. 2).Once we acknowledge that what is being called a Referendum is located outside the boundaries of Legislation, other suspicious aspects come to light, such as adopting manufactured Philosophies like WOKE, Cancel Culture, BLM, Antifa, and of course the later the Voice, in.Australia, designed and exposed under a sheep skin. The weakness of non- scientific Humanities have allowed this to happen. 3) It is obvious that Western Politics are not transparent, and Aboriginal Culture integrates a lot of avoidance: one of them being public speaking, which is even stronger among women. This makes 'genuine' Traditions defenceless and easy to manipulate. Transparency is consequently partly absent, when debates are supposed to take place. 4) Différent dialects mean that English is not a first language for many. Aboriginal Communities of all sizes and locations had no leaders: a justification for no Treaty to be signed relying on Traditions. 5) Traditions were mainly animist, and as such inspired by different animals behaviours, with DIFFERENT VOICES. To amalgamate this Culture into one Voice is an insult and is ignoring DNA Science, which is a Human transcript of the detailing of Nature, the earthen exposure of the Universe. Definition of concepts are played according to circumstances: band wagon strategy! 6) Just as well as Religions are ignored and even disapproved by the authoritative Left, this affects others non Aboriginal (Balandas) to a lesser degree, but toxic Gurus' like methods get used. The dysfunctions and aggressivity of the radical Left are more and more obvious. 6) Positive Radicalism is another expression that put aside Jungian Psychology associated with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, which causes a global inner child syndrome: revolts motivated by a feeling of mental confinement, emphasised by the avoidance of the dark side. Positivism is non existant when 'shadows' are ignored, A GLOBAL TREND! Many non-scientific Humanities may not be considered as Science, when not using formulas, but are more scientific than Politics when falsified statistics get used, and geopolitics have hardly followed the evolutions of technology. Waking up is wOking out Colonialism Paternalism and now Self-realisation or Self-actualization.
I can't wait for this whole ordeal to be over.
I think this 'voice' debate has done a lot of damage and forced people to take sides. Where there was once good will and cooperation, now there is division and mistrust.
Thanks for the check-in.
I was at times emotional watching and listening to a future Prime Minister, Jacinta,,,, what a beautiful eloquent and articulate woman Bess has raised.
I could see that she would cop an enormous amount of criticism for some of the things she said in her speech. Very brave indeed. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if she does go on to be Prime Minister. I won’t always agree with her, but that’s not the point, we should have the right to speak our minds without being abused.
She doesn't have the support of bush aboriginal people in Arnhemland. Her support comes from an urban base in Darwin and Alice
@pseudechis I'm catching up with Jacinta in a few days time., I'll put your "claim" to her 😊
@@falseprofit4u there was an article in yesterdays paper by John Faine about it and quoting the figures from some of the bush polling booths
@pseudechis Dunno Fain's biases or have read the article, does he live nearby or up in that part of the country?? Jacinta Price does and I'd trust local knowledge over southern city based abc hacks any day 😀 like I said I'll be catching up soon enough
There were optics with Jacinta Price's press conference. Firstly, the dinning room was being renovated, so everyone was moved into the broom cupboard. That sets the tone for the National Press Club. Secondly, the MC coped a bit of blow back because he joined in the Guardian reporters' 'Gotcha' moment that backfired badly, the Guardian reporter came in a second time for a slam dunk moment and got slam-dunked himself. Followed by the MC for the press club, who one would think would be neutral to any topic discussed. He just got an answer that left him in the wash as the Titanic Jacinta just ploughed ahead. Australia is falling in love with this woman.
Apparently we're past balanced reporting and so now we see some news outlets campaigning.
@@WesleyAird ❤❤❤
Jacinta Price has done herself, and maybe the whole country a great service with her dignity, composure and common sense. I feel like she has put a very strong case forward to be our PM one of these days.
Our family has been enjoying your content and your manner. Thank you.
Very kind. Hope all is well with you.
Thank you.
Hope you are doing ok too Wesley 👍😊
I am fine and I know that my voting NO is exactly the right way to go
I thought Senator Prices speech yesterday was brilliant. I hope everyone takes the time to watch it.
And it’s still a No from me.
Senator Price for PM.
She would put an end to the Labor, Greens and Teal racist, divisive Apartheid legislation.
Racism is a 360-degree disease, I hate it, I cannot and will not support Labor's racist Voice Legislation.
She would make a great voice if elected PM
same, very smart lady, i do hope one day she decides to run for PM
Voting NO
and absolutely appalled at the way Albanese and the Yes-men have damaged this nation in their attempt to get their way acting like spoilt brats.
Didn’t she put Marcia Langton and Linda Burney to shame. No outbursts, no name calling, just calm, sincere and from the heart. A breath of fresh air.
I very much hope, the rough and tumble does not spill out onto the streets.
It won’t. That’s not how keyboard warriors roll.
Thanks mate.
I'm OK, You're OK.
The good news is that you can vote up to 2 weeks prior to the referendum date to avoid the queues and get it over and done with.
Mate, you’re a much needed voice in all of this. I can’t wait to see what videos you create after it all too
Thank you. I hope you are well too.
You are good man Wes, amidst all of this and your own content, you find time to help everyone take a breath. Keep it up mate, i think you are doing a great job educating folk both on referendum and biscuits.
STAND UP
STAND UP AND BE COUNTED,
STAND UP
STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!
BLACKFELLA WHITEFELLA
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR COLOUR,
AS LONG AS YOU TRUE FELLA,
DON'T MATTER WHAT YOUR COLOUR!
IF WE TO MAKE IT WE WILL MAKE IT!@
I had a work colleague ask me about the voice and which way to vote as she was undecided my reply was "what are you voting yes to" she said i don't know ive looked and looked and cant find what it is. Shes now decided to bote NO
But did she know what she is voting no to?
@@joblow3638 As an example of "no functional detail", look at taxation. Taxation affects pretty much every adult Australian throughout most of their lives - but do you know how much "functional detail" about taxation there is in the Constitution? None at all: there is a single sentence that says "The Parliament shall have power to make laws with respect to taxation" - that's it. This is because the Constitution is never the place for functional detail. It is up to Parliament to flesh-out the details.
Having said this, the proposed Constitutional change for the Voice does contain one very important functional detail: that the Voice will only ever be able to give advice. Some people think the Voice will become a negotiating body for things like treaties, etc. That cannot happen. The Constitution will not allow the Voice to do anything except give advice - not even Parliament could change this.
Hello Wesley.
I would like to sincerely thank you for providing us Australians with such well prepared, informative and relatable subject matters leading up to our current referendum.
Your our down-to-earth logical guidance has benefited me in learning more on this matter so that ‘I know why I am voting when I vote.’
I like the setting, format and delivery of your videos. Watching, I have been impressed with what you researched and know and I think you kept to the subject very well.
In say this, I would like to let you know that you and your work are very much appreciated. You have helped Australia greatly.
Sincerely,
Paul
Hope that you are ok Wes.Thankyou for your care
Biscuit request :: Shortbread Creams ;-)
I want to see people handed a bad life, start lifted up. The voice won't do that. It wants and needs victims.
So, how will you lift-up people?
@@joblow3638 I was quoting you. You said "I want to see people handed a bad life, start lifted up" - how would they "start lifted up"?
Also, why do you exclude Closing the gap programs as NOT part of "community"?
@@joblow3638 why do you exclude Closing the gap programs as NOT part of "community"?
I love your gentleness and even temper. Mostly I like that you are clearly compassionate with neither naivety nor sentimentality as so many in this debate seem to be.
Stay well and promote unity. Together we can achieve more.
No biscuit or cup of tea?
Haha noticed that too!
Love your analysis.
Thanks for the check in. Just as importantly R U OK ? 🙃
Jacinta for Prime minister.
How are YOU going as well. I’m feeling jumbled and confused. I hope you are able to rise above it to some extent.
Im just a racist and stupid!!!!
That is not what she said
@@AnotherDougwhat did she say?
@@mathish1477 ""Every time the No case raises one of their arguments, if you start pulling it apart you get down to base racism, I'm sorry to say it, but that's where it lands. Or just sheer stupidity." She is referring to the claims made by the No campaign - not to the voters.
@@AnotherDoug ohhh ok, so you are saying that i am supporting a campaign built by stupid racists???
@@AnotherDoug did you have the chance to listen to Jacinta's press club interview?
No. No, to them and us. No, to blackened and white. One people, one law, one country...
I love that you say how’re you all “going”, not doing!! It’s such a Yank term!!! 😡
Where's your cup of tea and biscut?
Don't worry , I'll be having a cup of coffee and a new biscuit with you tomorrow morning.
I just wanted to reach out and say thank you for your contribution to my 180 degree decision.
I also want to acknowledge your efforts on ABC’s the Drum tonight. As a long time ABC viewer, I am becoming more and more concerned with their increasingly bias editing of news and it’s narrative in general. Thank you for at least trying to put your respectful views!
Kind regards
Darren
❤
Shouldnt there be a referendum asking the Aboriginal Australians if they want Anglo voice in Australian parliament???
I don't think NOW you can have a referendum asking one race a question. UNO that is why the 1967 ref question was asked. Post 1967 we are all as one.
Why? The referendum is about our constitution. It effects all of us regardless of race. As far as Parliament goes, Indigenous Australians are actually over represented there at the moment. Nobody minds. These people were all elected.
Howdy Wesley, very weary.
Trump's Fault for sure
I'm ok, how are you? The yes camp should keep being vocal. Makes for more stupid, racist people who are, by this time completely fed up.
🙏👌🙏
A No vote could change the whole world for the better but we'll have to argue for it. Nations should all comply with the UN Convention on the Elimibation of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Article 1(4) says it all.
A no vote will not change anything at all. We will continue to fail the A&TSI communities as we have done for 56b years
@@AnotherDoug
Not 'we' will- YOU will continue to fail them- as you admit you have up to now. What makes you think yoi're onto a winner now?
If a man keeps writing off his car, and every time he replaces it he gets himself a better or nicer one, he's a fool. If someone else pays for the better car, the incompetent driver has no incentive to improve, and the person paying for it is a fool.
if everything you've done up to now has failed what makes you think this suggestion of yours is a winner? Double or nothing?
@@youbigtubership To continue with your tortured analogy, the Voice won't be a replacement for the car, it will give us good advice on how to keep the same car but drive it more effectively, efficiently (and safely)
@@AnotherDoug Okay, let's say it gets in. How would you guarantee to me, an Australian, that the Aborigines who alone as a racial group will have control over the selection process for membership of the round table, won't in 5, 10, 20 years' time, decide that indigenous interests align better with (for example) China's or the USA's interests more than with mine, and start using my tax contributions to represent anti-Commonwealth interests at every level? You can't.
Or what if one half-Aboriginal community, say the Indian-Aboriginal community or a cashed up religious group get control of it and start pushing their agenda against the interests of other Aboriginal tribes? Who would get the government's ear? The Voice, or the little self-funded group of Aborigines who have to represent themselves? You'd have no protection.
Of course, we know that the political parties would be able to use it to interfere with the policies of their political enemies via the Executive, and it will be used that way. You're opening up abuse of process.
You can guarantee against none of these realistic possibilities.
So how on earth can you claim this would be a safe way of recognizing them?
It is racism, and while you claim the Voice would represent all Aborigines, that's a hoax as bad as any political party 'no Australians left behind' pkedge.
Sick and tired of it …..
Disappointed Wes. Where’s the tea and biscuits, we need an update on the Iced vovo’s vs Tim Tam’s debate.
Jacinta for PM!
TROJAN HORSE AT WORK
1) Looking at the impacts of Aboriginal Traditions to this day: Psychology, Sociology. Anthropology and common-sense would analyse them as being Spiritual: as such should be untouched by Legislation, unless illegal acts are committed, and then this is what, and only what, should be focused on.
2).Once we acknowledge that what is being called a Referendum is located outside the boundaries of Legislation, other suspicious aspects come to light, such as adopting manufactured Philosophies like WOKE, Cancel Culture, BLM, Antifa, and of course the later the Voice, in.Australia, designed and exposed under a sheep skin. The weakness of non- scientific Humanities have allowed this to happen.
3) It is obvious that Western Politics are not transparent, and Aboriginal Culture integrates a lot of avoidance: one of them being public speaking, which is even stronger among women. This makes 'genuine' Traditions defenceless and easy to manipulate. Transparency is consequently partly absent, when debates are supposed to take place.
4) Différent dialects mean that English is not a first language for many. Aboriginal Communities of all sizes and locations had no leaders: a justification for no Treaty to be signed relying on Traditions.
5) Traditions were mainly animist, and as such inspired by different animals behaviours, with DIFFERENT VOICES. To amalgamate this Culture into one Voice is an insult and is ignoring DNA Science, which is a Human transcript of the detailing of Nature, the earthen exposure of the Universe. Definition of concepts are played according to circumstances: band wagon strategy!
6) Just as well as Religions are ignored and even disapproved by the authoritative Left, this affects others non Aboriginal (Balandas) to a lesser degree, but toxic Gurus' like methods get used. The dysfunctions and aggressivity of the radical Left are more and more obvious.
6) Positive Radicalism is another expression that put aside Jungian Psychology associated with Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, which causes a global inner child syndrome: revolts motivated by a feeling of mental confinement, emphasised by the avoidance of the dark side. Positivism is non existant when 'shadows' are ignored, A GLOBAL TREND!
Many non-scientific Humanities may not be considered as Science, when not using formulas, but are more scientific than Politics when falsified statistics get used, and geopolitics have hardly followed the evolutions of technology.
Waking up is wOking out
Colonialism Paternalism and now Self-realisation or Self-actualization.
You need more airplay over the next 3 weeks