Is it possible to run a coil shock with this link on a 21+ evo? Specialzied says the evo is not coil shock compatible. Also, what travel is that zeb fork? Would it make sense to run 170 zeb fork on evo with your link installed? Thanks!
I just got the WRP yoke for my ( mixed wheel) evo. I'm all torso and short legs so i don't like a full 29r. I'm going to install the WRP this week. I'm wondering if the WRP yoke, with the Cascade link will on my mixed wheel will be overkill? I'm a heavy rider at 225-230lbs. I'm thinking with both I might need shorter cranks. Don't really know. I can't find anything on line about both.
@@CascadeComponentsSweet! I'm watching this video again because tomorrow I'm installing the Cascade. I'm really looking forward to riding my Evo with this link and the WRP together 🎉
@@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae well, there is a normal linkage already as well, isn’t that obvious. It’s about Progression. So his question was super legit. Especially, when you read, that the mullet link even lowers the stock Progression again... is that true @cascade?
@@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae No, it's the same link, so you would need to choose one or the other. But Cascade was saying the yoke modification is better to go mullet. Is this true @Cascade Components?? Shed some light please haha
Just a little info on the alloy the spacers on the chainstay to the link are not the same as the shock and link. They are more similar to the pivot and link where as they don’t get pressed in. So keep your spacers and bolts organized from where they came from If you’re installing these yourself use the same suggestion of grease and holding the spacers while you slide the chainstay onto the link.
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you were to keep the air pressure exactly the same as before the sag will increase. If you set sag to be the same as before the air pressure will be higher but it will still be more supple and then much harder to bottom out. So I guess no matter what it makes top of travel more sensitive and then how much of travel it's more sensitive fore can be tuned with sag.
@@CascadeComponents but stock shock for the 2021 stumpy alloy is 190x45 (130mm rear travel). It is compatible even if this cascade link is designed for a 210x55 shock?
@@noastudi The linkage is not designed around a specific shock size but it is designed for specific frames. It works on the Stumpy alloy with the 190x45mm shock as well as the Stumpy EVO with the 210x55mm shock
I want to get one of these for my 2020 stumpy ST and I know on the website it talks about 210x50/52.5mm shock mounts but mine is a 190x45mm, does that make any difference in compatibility?
@@hunterwright386 I went on the website the other day and they appeared so im pretty sure they do! You don’t loose anything checking and sending them an email I mean I am pretty sure they are made with the same size aluminium block so they can probably make you one if you ask them for it. The anodising colour im not sure they can give you the colour you want if they are not making them anymore as they were a few months ago but hey raw aluminium looks pretty darn good anyways and you can always spray paint it the colour you want at home with a bit of patience to mask the bearings !!
This one does not work with the 2019 SJ, but we do make a link for that model already. As someone else mentioned, check out site under Specialized links.
I have a Cascade Link on my 2019 Stumpy Evo and now I have a 2021 Evo. I'm trying to get on coil and I think I'm going to have to get on this cascade link too. Is the increase in rear travel from this linkage a byproduct of increasing the progression of the suspension? Or is it technically possible to accomplish the increased progressivity via a custom linkage while maintaining the 150mms of rear travel? Just curious really but I haven't felt like I needed additional travel back there.
Fits Stumpjumper EVO (2021 to current) Travel: 158mm (with stock 210×55mm shock) Progression increases to 26% compared to 19% with stock link Keeps geometry identical to stock geometry Sealed Enduro MAX bearings CNC’d out of 6061-T6 Aluminum Colors: Black, Silver, Orange
@@THRENO82 Currently working to figure out compatibility here. The stock link is the same on the alloy so hopefully this link is compatible with it as well.
@@CascadeComponents That is what everyone says, right before they gouge the aluminum 😂 We have all seen what some can do with a screwdriver and a crown race 😳
Is this link to change the bike to 27.5 in the rear or an upgrade to the stock setting (29er rear)?? Is there a cascade link for going 27.5 in the rear?
This linkage is an upgrade to the stock 29er frame. If you want to mullet your bike, take a look at the Williams Racing Products Mullet Yoke for the Stumpjumper EVO
How does this change the geo and effective seat angle?
Static geometry is unchanged so the geo chart is the same.
Any links on the regular 21 stumpy?
I also want to know
I saw it already on their website - still don’t know if is worth it - I have a 21’ Stumpy Alloy
Is it possible to run a coil shock with this link on a 21+ evo? Specialzied says the evo is not coil shock compatible.
Also, what travel is that zeb fork? Would it make sense to run 170 zeb fork on evo with your link installed? Thanks!
Wish you could make a link to fit a gen 3 rear triangle to a gen 2 levo.
can this link be used on the Gen 3 Turbo Levo focr onversion to 29"?
Can you paint it????
I just got the WRP yoke for my ( mixed wheel) evo. I'm all torso and short legs so i don't like a full 29r. I'm going to install the WRP this week. I'm wondering if the WRP yoke, with the Cascade link will on my mixed wheel will be overkill? I'm a heavy rider at 225-230lbs. I'm thinking with both I might need shorter cranks. Don't really know. I can't find anything on line about both.
Yeah they work together just fine!
@@CascadeComponentsSweet! I'm watching this video again because tomorrow I'm installing the Cascade. I'm really looking forward to riding my Evo with this link and the WRP together 🎉
@@CascadeComponentsbut can i run a Stumpjumper EVO Pro which already is mullet from Stock, with the Cascade link ?
Will there be a mullet link coming too?
Specialized makes one already silly
@@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae well, there is a normal linkage already as well, isn’t that obvious. It’s about Progression. So his question was super legit. Especially, when you read, that the mullet link even lowers the stock Progression again... is that true @cascade?
@@raphaelito2432 Pretty sure the mullet link is a different part and should be totally compatible with the cascade link
@@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae No, it's the same link, so you would need to choose one or the other. But Cascade was saying the yoke modification is better to go mullet. Is this true @Cascade Components?? Shed some light please haha
Just a little info on the alloy the spacers on the chainstay to the link are not the same as the shock and link. They are more similar to the pivot and link where as they don’t get pressed in. So keep your spacers and bolts organized from where they came from
If you’re installing these yourself use the same suggestion of grease and holding the spacers while you slide the chainstay onto the link.
You mean seat stay?
will SAG change... meaning can we run more plush than stock for top of stroke compliance yet still benefit at bottom of stroke to resist bottom outs?
I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you were to keep the air pressure exactly the same as before the sag will increase. If you set sag to be the same as before the air pressure will be higher but it will still be more supple and then much harder to bottom out. So I guess no matter what it makes top of travel more sensitive and then how much of travel it's more sensitive fore can be tuned with sag.
Will this link work for the 2021 stumpy alloy ?
I would also like to know.
It does work for the alloy. Stock it shares the same link as the Evo.
@@CascadeComponents but stock shock for the 2021 stumpy alloy is 190x45 (130mm rear travel). It is compatible even if this cascade link is designed for a 210x55 shock?
@@noastudi The linkage is not designed around a specific shock size but it is designed for specific frames. It works on the Stumpy alloy with the 190x45mm shock as well as the Stumpy EVO with the 210x55mm shock
@@CascadeComponents So, just to clarify.
It fits the Stumpjumper Evo Alloy?
I just bought a link but it didnt say anything about the alloy.
I want to get one of these for my 2020 stumpy ST and I know on the website it talks about 210x50/52.5mm shock mounts but mine is a 190x45mm, does that make any difference in compatibility?
It doesn't change compatibility. The ST and the regular Stumpjumper use the same link. The only difference is the shock and shock yoke.
@@CascadeComponents awesome. Thank you for the reply, can’t wait to get some more travel on my bike
is this link compatible with Stumpjumper Evo Elite Alloy?
Yes
Will this work on a regular 2021 Stumpjumper alloy?
That’s what it’s for stumpy alloy and stumpy evo
Would this work on a Stumjumper Alloy 2022?
It does. The only version of the current stumpjumper that uses a different link is the carbon one with flex pivots.
What is the weight of this link compared to the original?
Stock => 209g
Cascade => 212g
That’s sick! 🤘🏼🤘🏼 I plan on ordering one from you guys for a SJ 2019 alloy ST 27.5. What shocks do you recommend I look at? Thanks.
Personally I'd go with a Float X or Super Deluxe Ultimate
@@CascadeComponents awesome thanks. 🤘🏼
Will there be a link for the '21 normal stumpjumper?
For the alloy one, yes
Want it! waiting for the opening of shop in EU!
Me tooo
I assume this does not work with a 2019 stump jumper?
There’s a specific one for that model already ;)!!
@@rodrigopages1054 do they still make those? Friend of mine told me they don’t
@@hunterwright386 I went on the website the other day and they appeared so im pretty sure they do! You don’t loose anything checking and sending them an email I mean I am pretty sure they are made with the same size aluminium block so they can probably make you one if you ask them for it. The anodising colour im not sure they can give you the colour you want if they are not making them anymore as they were a few months ago but hey raw aluminium looks pretty darn good anyways and you can always spray paint it the colour you want at home with a bit of patience to mask the bearings !!
This one does not work with the 2019 SJ, but we do make a link for that model already. As someone else mentioned, check out site under Specialized links.
I have a Cascade Link on my 2019 Stumpy Evo and now I have a 2021 Evo. I'm trying to get on coil and I think I'm going to have to get on this cascade link too. Is the increase in rear travel from this linkage a byproduct of increasing the progression of the suspension? Or is it technically possible to accomplish the increased progressivity via a custom linkage while maintaining the 150mms of rear travel? Just curious really but I haven't felt like I needed additional travel back there.
This depends on the bike. With most of them some travel increase is necessary to get the progression numbers up.
@@CascadeComponents Sweet, thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
I read that it increases rear travel from 150 to 158 on the Specialized Stumpjumper Evo.
I literally was just wishing for this link before seeing the video.
What are the changes?
Fits Stumpjumper EVO (2021 to current)
Travel: 158mm (with stock 210×55mm shock)
Progression increases to 26% compared to 19% with stock link
Keeps geometry identical to stock geometry
Sealed Enduro MAX bearings
CNC’d out of 6061-T6 Aluminum
Colors: Black, Silver, Orange
Anything for 2021 alloy?
@@THRENO82 Currently working to figure out compatibility here. The stock link is the same on the alloy so hopefully this link is compatible with it as well.
Non evo alloy sj link?
Watching you poke out the spacers with a wrench hurts my soul 😢
It doesn't hurt them. It's not like they are getting hammered out or something.
@@CascadeComponents That is what everyone says, right before they gouge the aluminum 😂 We have all seen what some can do with a screwdriver and a crown race 😳
@@SubversionGarage You'd be pretty hard pressed to gouge these things pushing them out with the flat end of a large allen wrench by hand.
I used a plastic pick and it was a little bit tricky on a few spacers but it worked.
They come out a hell of a lot easier than a press fit crown race. The real question is why is this guy wearing a mask to make this video? 🐑
Why a mask??
Filmed during COVID.
Because the Cascade Links are contagious......
Is this link to change the bike to 27.5 in the rear or an upgrade to the stock setting (29er rear)?? Is there a cascade link for going 27.5 in the rear?
This linkage is an upgrade to the stock 29er frame. If you want to mullet your bike, take a look at the Williams Racing Products Mullet Yoke for the Stumpjumper EVO
So if i got this right, there’s no linkage for a mullet set up (with the same progression as with a 29”) so it gould handle a coil shock?