Fix it Friday! - How to Remove Something Potted in Epoxy Resin

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • In this video we show you how to melt the epoxy coating in an electronic circuit.
    The device is a DECO CPU-7 from a Bally BurgerTime
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Комментарии • 113

  • @fbloggs
    @fbloggs 3 года назад +16

    Terrific tip - I was able to use that same technique on a potted circuit board today and figure out which component had shorted. I had to keep putting the board back into the boiling water after about one minute each time because by that time the epoxy had gone rock-hard again.
    It took a dozen times into the boiling water before I was able to clear off all the epoxy form one side of my 4"x1.5" board but it worked. Many thanks for the great tip!

  • @naudycastillo2853
    @naudycastillo2853 2 года назад +8

    Oh boy, its amazing, I removed all potted expoxy resin from a generator AVR PCB, thanks for share.

    • @adeyemibabatunde1814
      @adeyemibabatunde1814 14 дней назад +1

      Was AVR pcb repaired?
      What was faulty in AVR pcb?
      How did you re-pot AVR pcb?

  • @Richard-lionhearted
    @Richard-lionhearted Год назад +1

    Nicely done almost ALL the videos on here had zero information about dealing with the epoxy , and you can’t fix the electronic components without getting the epoxy off safely , shows you have brains unlike most all the others doing their videos !

  • @Prash1c
    @Prash1c 3 года назад +10

    The marbles and glass for an insulating thermal buffer were cool ideas! Thanks for the vid! Neat!

  • @dwaynezilla
    @dwaynezilla 4 года назад +4

    Oh wow, that worked WAY better than I expected. Thanks!!

  • @lekurde8594
    @lekurde8594 6 лет назад +7

    Steaming works great too. takes longer, but its safer for the electronics.

  • @faramarzfaridani
    @faramarzfaridani 4 года назад +2

    Thank you very much for your kind and smart teaching

  • @elalesitoreal3638
    @elalesitoreal3638 4 года назад +2

    Many thanks for sharing your knowledge, Greetings from Argentina and Good Life to All

  • @en2oh
    @en2oh 2 года назад +6

    great video! Thanks for sharing this. Do you think that a prolonged soak in a preset reflow oven would have done as well? Seems to me that you're heating the epoxy up to it's Tg. Once you get the entire mass up to that level, I wonder if a heat gun applied during the removal process might facilitate this process. As an aside, were you able to fix the board? :)

  • @thetriode
    @thetriode 4 года назад

    Thanks for the heads up. Wanting to try this on a Traxxas RC Car module. They're really proud of them and it's plausible that mine blew some FETs out.

    • @EPYCMX
      @EPYCMX 4 года назад

      curious to see someone find this video also coming from trying to repair a traxxas ESC... did you manage to repair it? I have a Xl2.5 that i am sure could be repaired.

    • @thetriode
      @thetriode 4 года назад

      @@EPYCMX turned out it was the motor. Sorry

  • @Hanlonsgarage
    @Hanlonsgarage Год назад +4

    Do you think this will work on an inverter board which has capacitors and stuff in it?

  • @siliconvalleymetal
    @siliconvalleymetal 3 года назад

    Thanks, gonna use this to unwind an epoxy coated motor.

  • @ashwinkallalli1477
    @ashwinkallalli1477 3 года назад

    Thanks from India 🇮🇳

  • @user-qz3mn3qc1r
    @user-qz3mn3qc1r 8 месяцев назад

    Wow thank you so much, that was a big help, now i know how to fix an avr of generator,

  • @MerchantsOfMisery
    @MerchantsOfMisery 5 месяцев назад

    Wow, great job. Very clean work.

  • @KyleSand
    @KyleSand Год назад +2

    the interesting thing about boiling in water is that the pot will never get hotter than 100C inside

  • @909Thumper909
    @909Thumper909 7 лет назад

    This is very helpful, I'm trying to upgrade an ancient EQ module thats got potted daughterboards in the same way. THANKS!!!

  • @decs1000
    @decs1000 7 лет назад +4

    I'm trying this right now with a Honda eu3000 inverter generator, inverter unit. Model#31310-ZS9-t23. Really hoping it works. RUclips should ad a photo feature on its comments.

    • @paullahoud5937
      @paullahoud5937 7 лет назад

      decs1000 I'm about to embark on the same adventure for a inverter unit. any luck?

    • @davesnacks
      @davesnacks 5 лет назад

      Were either of you successful? I’ve got a bad 2000 inverter board.

    • @peterrinaudo1582
      @peterrinaudo1582 Год назад

      @@davesnacks I am wondering how you two guys went with this? I also have a Honda Generator inverter not working and am reluctant to replace it at $800

  • @Cheezeball99999
    @Cheezeball99999 2 месяца назад

    Haha! I knew there had to be a way to un-fry my Ninja's ECU. Neat!

  • @Mrgramazzotti
    @Mrgramazzotti 2 года назад

    Thank you so very much from tropical Brazil.

  • @MrSparkums
    @MrSparkums Год назад

    Excellent, best relevant vid on the tube..

  • @sourabh5170
    @sourabh5170 4 года назад

    feels so gud after seeing this video...will try definately.....just want to ask, what type of pot we should take to melt the pcs of glass...

  • @ShaunieDale
    @ShaunieDale Год назад

    Thanks for this video. I'm looking for a way into a Denso motorcycle ECU which appears to be polyurethane potting compound, but this is definitely going into the memory bank for future use.

    • @danpal6737
      @danpal6737 Год назад

      did it work mr Shaunie, god an ac cdi ready to remove the epoxy señor.

  • @bigliftm
    @bigliftm 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for this tip. will try it on some old voltage regulators of motorcycles. these can cost upto 500 bucks . So if you can repair them , it will save a ton of $$$

    • @baileynorth
      @baileynorth 3 года назад

      You ever get one to work

  • @johnweatherly6322
    @johnweatherly6322 3 года назад +3

    How would you keep the water from damaging the circuits/chips? Is There a way to do this without damaging the housing? How do companies remove it to repair components that they have potted?

    • @Nisstyre56
      @Nisstyre56 2 года назад +4

      as long as there's no current going through it you should be fine, just clean it with isopropyl after you're done

  • @Paddington2000
    @Paddington2000 4 года назад

    Hmmm, wish I'd seen this video earlier, It's just cost me £80 for a module which I feel sure I could have repairer. Great video, thank's.

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox 4 года назад +6

    My question is, can you do it again in real time and zoomed in on the item you are cleaning up please?

  • @cocolove7591
    @cocolove7591 2 года назад +2

    I've seen alot of video with people using this technic and not one use a respiratory mask I think there are toxic stuff getting release when this stuff is boiling

  • @bijouxbijouxbijoux
    @bijouxbijouxbijoux 4 года назад +1

    We got Tom Myspace back !

  • @stevecobb76
    @stevecobb76 5 лет назад +1

    This is a possibility how we can depot a nst neon sign transformer cast in resin like my transco. Everyone claims impossible. But I will try this. I might have to hear it much longer. But it should be worth the wait! If it works, I will post video. #nst #depot #transco

  • @michaelrobertson8795
    @michaelrobertson8795 4 года назад

    Yeah I've got one for commercial bagging line embedded in clear epoxy it's $600 a pop

  • @sandspritpark
    @sandspritpark 5 лет назад +1

    how bout the gel type potting stuff on cdi on cars..its not hard like epoxy,thanks heaps.

  • @marcioreis2648
    @marcioreis2648 3 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @carl-cr7rp
    @carl-cr7rp 4 года назад

    Well done!

  • @quevicular
    @quevicular 5 лет назад +4

    were you able to fix this?

  • @ageorgiapeach9442
    @ageorgiapeach9442 3 года назад

    great tip, thanks.

  • @cdoublejj
    @cdoublejj Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @thingsthatmake
    @thingsthatmake 4 года назад

    AMAZING, thank you!

  • @saeidhashemi7090
    @saeidhashemi7090 Год назад

    Can I do the same with a transformer that is immersed in apoxy?

  • @VeeFTeeS
    @VeeFTeeS 4 года назад

    I'm just wondering if it can work on the dreadful eberspracher d5wz controller board?

  • @manuchandran241
    @manuchandran241 5 лет назад

    Thank u man it's vary much helped me

  • @skun80
    @skun80 5 лет назад

    thanks a lot for this video!

  • @sirbacharach1
    @sirbacharach1 5 лет назад +1

    I have a Commodore 64 PSU that I’d like to remove the epoxy from, but I worry about water getting into the transformer coil, or the heat damaging any electrical insulation on the coil. It’s obviously attached to mains when in use so I don’t know if I should risk this method. Someone else recommended chiselling it away instead. Any views on this?

    • @CoolKoon
      @CoolKoon 2 года назад +2

      The transformer coil cal withstand temperatures way higher than the boiling point of water (100°C) and that includes its insulation as well. Obviously if your C64 PSU is in working condition then you don't need to depot it anyway.

  • @ThrashRebel
    @ThrashRebel 5 лет назад +2

    Dude! Thank you so much! I have some old Bill Lawrence that are sealed into the pickup covers via epoxy. I want to unseal them so I can use the covers for new pickups. You didn't have to reheat it during the stripping process?

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 3 года назад

      Did they really use epoxy? 90% of all guitar pickups are potted it in wax or other reversible material.
      the only other things I’ve seen are pickups potted in a type of tree varnish/sap… Which looks like an amber colored fiberglass… And I’ve even seen some in a type of natural black tar. All of which are pretty easily removable… At least in comparison to epoxy… And I can’t imagine any decent quality guitar pickup being using anything else. Unless it was an early experimental prototype or something.
      If you want to see something potted in the black tar stuff I was talking about... check out “Mr. Carlson‘s lab” he made a video on depotting a transformer.

    • @ThrashRebel
      @ThrashRebel 3 года назад

      @@hullinstruments the substance on the pickups I have is hard, like plastic. I ended up just heating it up enough for me to take a fine-edge chisel to the edges and separate the pickup from the edges of the cover and I pried the pickups out.
      The substance is still on the bottom of the pickups. I couldn't get it off, other than the bits that cracked and flaked off.

  • @itbsection8980
    @itbsection8980 6 лет назад +1

    Genius!

  • @muhammadrashidpk11
    @muhammadrashidpk11 4 года назад

    i want to remove epoxy glue from a metallic hole, can we use fire torch (direct fire flame contact) or red hot rod to remove epoxy glue?

    • @zsezzs1
      @zsezzs1 4 года назад

      Heat gun would be better i guess🧐

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 2 года назад

      I clean the putty knives and trowels I use with epoxy by just pyrolizing it-turning it to ash.
      Do it outside, it makes nasty fumes.

  • @sc2dave1
    @sc2dave1 7 лет назад +3

    Will this also work for that red epoxy? I need to fix an MSD ignition box. Thanks

    • @Rudderify
      @Rudderify 7 лет назад +1

      david contreras I'm curious too because I need to do the same to a MSD Digi 6 plus. Did the boil method work? If you haven't tried, I'll give it a shot this week and let you know.

    • @turbomalibu
      @turbomalibu 5 лет назад

      Did either David or rudderify ever test this? I also have a msd digital 6 I wanted to test it on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 4 года назад +4

      Honestly guys… Each module is different. Even modules from the same company, made for the same application might use different potting compounds on different days.
      Epoxy, conformal coatings, silicone fillers, or a dozen other types of potting materials are common. (Including tar and tree Rosen) But even stuff from the same batch might be a different hardness… Or have a different reaction to heat. It all depends on the mixture of a two-part material.
      There’s just too many variables to predict. I’ve depotted at least 100 different modules from all types of industrial applications. And it has to be handled in a case by case basis. Hell I’ve even had modules come off of the same machine that were identical, one was hidden under a cover… And the other was somewhat visible and placed on the outside of the machine. The potting compound in the module from the outer part of the machine was hardened by UV light… Whereas the module deeper inside the machine had a softer and more pliable compound. Each had to be handled totally different… And they were so similar that they shared serial numbers from the same day of production at the same factory.
      Anyway… I know this question wasn’t for me… But I figured I would give my experience and just put it out there the things I’ve learned tinkering with this stuff

    • @kyro3869
      @kyro3869 2 года назад

      @@Rudderify did this work for you?

  • @Kotaztrafee
    @Kotaztrafee 2 года назад +1

    I have to wonder how a pressure cooker would work?!

  • @diecksl
    @diecksl 6 лет назад

    Cool. Did'nt know this is possible

  • @laschell59
    @laschell59 3 года назад

    Thats CRAZY youd think it would damage the unit

  • @ShawClash
    @ShawClash 6 лет назад

    can u remove the solar cell from mini solar panel with out damaging it
    it filled with so kind of clear epoxi or something
    i need that solar cell for mini projects
    please tell me how do i do it ???

  • @TheDreadedRearAdmiral
    @TheDreadedRearAdmiral 4 года назад +2

    This is awesome, I've been wondering how to do this for years without a lot of noise or aggressive chemicals. Would it work on the tar in old transformers?

    • @adhil8918
      @adhil8918 3 года назад

      Yeah like fly back transformers

    • @Kepler_2258
      @Kepler_2258 2 года назад +1

      @@adhil8918 those have that same acrylic based compound, so yes it would work, I’m hoping it’ll free a torodial transformer I have that’s half potted, because I want to rewire it to use as a beefy high current transformer

  • @yussufj3293
    @yussufj3293 5 лет назад

    Do you think it will work on neon sign trasformer

  • @CoolistBeans
    @CoolistBeans 4 года назад

    Ethan is probably watching this video right now with his epoxy USB

  • @georgiamorgan_
    @georgiamorgan_ 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you 🙏🏼 so much you save my ass !!! ❤

  • @Mangomesh
    @Mangomesh 7 лет назад

    Can all Resins be broken down this way. I have this key ring and I just want to give it a go.... I have no idea what kind of resin the key ring is made from.

    • @famalourian2463
      @famalourian2463 Год назад

      It definitely doesn't work with all resins. I've tried this twice with two different projects and it resulted in no softening of the rock hard epoxy at all. The stuff I tried it on was black electrical potting compound. It may work on some, but I've had zero success with this so far.

  • @namenotshown9277
    @namenotshown9277 25 дней назад

    how about steam?

  • @ankurpatel22
    @ankurpatel22 7 лет назад

    Where can i get epoxy like this. i want to cover my server psu that i turned in to computer psu. the server psu has exposed wires that i want to cover.

    • @TheMharrouchi
      @TheMharrouchi 5 лет назад +1

      At the Lowe’s (Home improvement store) in the caulking section. You can choose from clear or colored silicone. It’s much cheaper too.

  • @youtub203
    @youtub203 2 года назад

    would an oven be better, no water exposure.

  • @alzaghir
    @alzaghir 6 лет назад

    What the is used?

  • @harishkumark.p7278
    @harishkumark.p7278 4 года назад

    can you please mention the potting material chemical name?

    • @iqinsanity
      @iqinsanity 4 года назад

      Without chemical analysis there’s no way to know which type of epoxy it is. It would be useless to know because different manufacturers use different kinds and some even use different kinds depending on the product or when it was made.

  • @geeduuri7
    @geeduuri7 Год назад

    Have you lost your marbels?

  • @honewaatamokepumipi8135
    @honewaatamokepumipi8135 Год назад

    You made it look difficult bro

  • @joesmoe71
    @joesmoe71 6 лет назад

    Good stuff! I've got a rare Comsoft Victory board I might do this to so the security module can be dumped for MAME. Are you a member of arcade collectors website KLOV?

  • @Walczyk
    @Walczyk 3 года назад

    Did you ever fix the BurgerTime?

  • @summoning-a-danger
    @summoning-a-danger Год назад +1

    Absolutely didn't work

  • @joenguyen7977
    @joenguyen7977 6 лет назад

    :18. Is it worth it does take a lot of efforts?

    • @trevorkent4749
      @trevorkent4749 6 лет назад +2

      Yes I have ignition modules that cost $1000 a pair and have 3 that fail in testing. If you get it un potted you can repair or copy. The last European one I did was costing 450 Euro's plus shipping.

    • @UKMXS
      @UKMXS 5 лет назад

      Trevor can you mail me? I have some inverter I need repairing if you would like to do it?

  • @Ath_
    @Ath_ 5 лет назад

    delicious

  • @catbusdecoder
    @catbusdecoder 4 года назад

    Looks more like ramentime

  • @amelaboel3nen377
    @amelaboel3nen377 6 лет назад +2

    good job but i think this circuit will never work again

  • @fredflintstone2077
    @fredflintstone2077 4 года назад +1

    Wouldn't it have been better to use a small oven and avoid any potential water damage? Electronics and water do not mix well. Especially if it happens to have some sort of back up battery or capacitor.

    • @mikebruestle218
      @mikebruestle218 4 года назад +3

      Google "CERN dishwasher"...
      A lot of people think circuit boards and water don't mix. They often preach to others about it, without direct personal experience. While water IS bad when the circuit is energized, water is ok as long as it's denergized and you throughly dry it before energizing.
      I've run many filthy circuit boards through a dishwasher cycle. Gently dried them for 24hrs at 140'f. They work great after.

  • @antigen4
    @antigen4 5 лет назад +1

    alternately you can just throw it in the microwave for a handful of minutes - worked for me - OR if it's s transformer you can just run a heavy current though it and turn it into an induction heater and let the goo just fall out on it's own

    • @dnb5661
      @dnb5661 5 лет назад +6

      I hope nobody fell for your stupid troll idea. Putting any electronics in the microwave will blow the microwave, and the electronic device in question. Although, the transformer idea might work.

    • @antigen4
      @antigen4 5 лет назад

      ummm NO not really- it's an old machinists trick to heat bearings etc ... just make sure you wrap it in MOIST towelette first! nothing more to it.

    • @antigen4
      @antigen4 5 лет назад +1

      see also: ruclips.net/video/LVODJm05plw/видео.html

    • @slinkytreekreeper
      @slinkytreekreeper 2 года назад

      @@antigen4 If there's electrolytic caps under the potting, that's a quick way to damage them. They are at least easily replaceable but any other method is many times safer.

  • @AnimalsGirlful
    @AnimalsGirlful 5 лет назад

    I'm fucked I can't put the thing I have in water xD

    • @sheep1ewe
      @sheep1ewe 5 лет назад

      It does not need to be water, steam or air will work, but it take a bit more patience, if You use a hetgun, You need to be wery careful.

  • @GlitchyBastard
    @GlitchyBastard 8 лет назад +1

    I don't thnk that circuit board will ever work again......

    • @create2009
      @create2009  8 лет назад +20

      Haha, it acutally did. I had to replace some of the pins on that module, but BurgerTime is alive again.

    • @GlitchyBastard
      @GlitchyBastard 8 лет назад +4

      Create! Well...Didn't see that one coming.....

    • @micflynn1
      @micflynn1 7 лет назад +2

      Runze Liu Just soak board in denatured alcohol for few minutes to absorb any water then let dry, this will prevent corrosion from water and dry any water that may have gotten under the chips!

    • @Xombigod
      @Xombigod 7 лет назад +7

      Nonsense. Worked in the electronics industry for years. A common circuit board cleaning method is a nail brush a running water tap, and cleaning solvent. As long as you make sure it's dry (we use a low temp oven for a few hours), it'll be fine.

  • @geraldito7777
    @geraldito7777 Год назад

    THANKS!!!!....ALL TRY IT RIGTH NOW