Just to let you know, this kind of software has been around for a long time. I recall using Finale Notepad back in 2003. Even then, there were still even older versions of this type of software available for free.
Well this is not a Canon, nor a counterpoint piece, it is just a melody and its accompaniment as I hear it, and I think this is a little bit confuse as a music. Sometimes it feels like it lacks structure. There are however some nice melodc ideas ! Keep in mind that I'm in no means an expert. (Also please put the sharps on the key ! ^^) edit: if you want it to sound like counterpoint, avoid the octaves intervals. At the beginig there are a lot of them and it's not great
You explained this really well, and I would love to see more videos on composition methods like this! I really appreciate that you're able to teach so efficiently while still getting all the necessary information across.
ADAM! I am using this video in my counterpoint class tomorrow. My students are tired of listening to me, and you explain it exactly the way I would have. Plus, they all think you're cooler than I am, so....
Nicely done Adam, you explained that clearly and concisely. I'd love to see more videos like these where you explore concepts like Canons and other things within music theory. Thanks for making these!
Ive been a fan of yours for a while, and my school didn't have music theory or much music classes (my current college major) and you and 12 tone were super helpful learning music stuff and these old videos are still wildly helpful and fun!
Dude this was the single most useful video for understanding how to make stuff sound "classical" (forgive the generality, I mainly listen to metal music) I've ever seen. I'd love it if you did more writing explanation videos like this! Keep up the badass work brother!
Sagolel4797 If you played them past each other within a short time I'd understand. I'm just really impressed he'd know what it's going to sound like, if that is the case and he's not just using techniques, which would sill be impressive.
PauLtus B I'd figure his comfortable knowledge of music theory allows him a lot of extra skill in audiating the notes. The hardest thing to predict for me at least would be rhythmic alliteration or just awkward sounding transitions. The melody and harmony are sure to sound in the key when being written with the use of theory.
The infamous Pachelbel's Canon popped into my mind as soon as I saw the title, but I'm glad I watched the whole thing. I stumbled across your channel not long ago and I enjoy your content. I've already learned some of the material through either college, or doing my own research, but it's nice to be able to go back and do some review with a sometimes different perspective. I like how you dive into most of the aspects of music, not just learning how to play an instrument.
I'd love to have more of this. I'm looking through your other videos to see if you have some. This could be a format - short composition videos. Just saying... I'd watch lol
It would be cool to see more videos like this where you take a theoretical concept and show how it would be used in a compositional environment, as well as/instead of existing examples. One way to get around the demonetisation, maybe?
I am ridiculously happy to find a mention of this song in a comment section. To answer the question, yes it's a canon, but more than that I just wanted to say how happy I was to see this comment :')
Quick question here. What is your opinion on linear counterpoint? Do you use it at all or do you always think in intervals? I use it a lot in my band and I find it a lot of fun.
I'm definitely not great at composing music, but I feel like that last note in the bass should be an A. Since the treble is a C the last note being a B to me doesn't really feel like an end to the song, it's almost like it's leaving me on a cliffhanger. Please explain the thing I'm either missing or hearing wrong!
I want the whole of music to be based upon canons. I even have a dream that one day, everything will be realized to be a canon. Just play the Final Countdown over itself. Seriously.
I really hope i wasn't the only one clicking on this video thinking he was composing for actual cannons? I mean I know canon is one less 'N' but a man get his hopes up right? No? okay..
i'd say you CAN do a canon with delay, but for that to be you'd have to be thinking about the relationship between what you are playing and what you played which the delay is playing back... so relating counterpoint-ally to your own delay. Not all Delay is Canon, Canon is a musical procedure, Delay is an effect. And I don´t mean you have to obey the rules that Adam followed, which are the traditional ones, but that you'd have to be relating to the delay, not ignoring it
I would expect a little bit more thinking done on the horizontal aspect of the voice as well rather than just considering what intervals work best each time and not discussing the continuity and cohesion of the whole. At the end of the day, counterpoint is all about the coexistence of musical lines that already sound complete in themselves, so I would like to hear more about how one can achieve that when writing a canon or any other kind of counterpoint rather than just discussing which intervals work best.
Great video! I just hope that you would have talked a bit more about when it is ok to use dissonances (on weak beats), since a beginning composer watching this can get an impression that only 3rds, 6ths, 5ths and 8ths/unisons are allowed.
I think you just blew my mind. About parallel fifths... I took theory in school, I know it's a classical no-no... but also as a metal guitarist it's definitely a solid tool that brings a lot of heaviness (especially when you write a riff in drop D and just play the same riff on the A string simultaneously). This will work on steel and nylon acoustic as well(No drop D required). If you play parallel fifths the guitar brings out this crazy aggressive natural "distortion"...Probably all the harmonics working together? I also like it when I record Rock vocals because I feel like my separate tracks blend well... but like you said it definitely does not bring out a second voice... only accentuates the root note in a way that makes it sound like an effect(like a 'Fifths Synth'.) Thank you for bringing meaning to some previously discarded knowledge! I also learned not to throw away anything I learn from anybody.
yes like todd said, also many paralell 5ths and parallel octaves are allowed in a row, BUT its NOT allowed to be used in the middle of independent lines, as the lines lose there independent sound, which confuses the listener of how many lines they are listening too, and which ones which etc.... when theres multiple parallels in a row that is ok, because it doesnt confuse the listener
Just a quick question, and I know it's a matter of taste these days, but for "traditional" harmony, when you are harmonizing a run of notes, how do you treat passing notes? Harmonize the on-grid ones?
Hey adam do you know of any programs that have a voice to text feature for writing music? It be cool to sing notes and there name and have it be transcribed.
I am looking for apps like this as well, and if I find one I will let you know. I do think Mixcraft ilets you do some fun things like modulate or augment (or time stretch) one vocal track and put it next to it's copy. And lots of loops and splicing ability. If you can play piano, it will also give you the midi piano roll or the notes for what you play. And you can enter in one track at a time, then put them next to each other and pick the bpm, etc.
Should not the motif started on beat 3 of bar two (treble) end on an A (so bar 3 treble beat 1 is an a), so that bar 3 beat 3 in the bass is an A and you have a satisfying cadence? Love your vids
Pachelbel's canon in D is a canon with 3 violins and one cello(which plays a repeating bass line) so maybe having multiple high pitched instruments confuses things a litte. If it helps, take a look at a video that plays the piece alongside the score, so you can see and follow the voices.
@@jackeyzhu3702 I've found the follow ing video by the channel smalin: ruclips.net/video/T3uh75-OXQo/видео.html If you are not familiar with music notation, it offers some colored horizontal lines that represent the notes, making easier to visualize the voices.
@@jackeyzhu3702 I also find this video very helpful: ruclips.net/video/bIx3pCpbEnw/видео.html Like Adam Neely, he shows the composition of counterpoint (this time a fugue) from the eyes of the composer.
Adam. I have been playing guitar for several years but I feel that I have no musical knowledge. so I want to learn music theory but I do not have the money to do so. Do you suggest any book to to learn music theory and harmony?
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Awesome! Sounds like counterpo-
He sounded so dead inside
What was he actually saying?
"Sounds like counterpoint"
What does it mean? Im no native speaker
It's a composition technique : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterpoint
That is so cool. And with modern software it's so easy to write and instantly hear how it sounds. We live in a golden age of music.
Just to let you know, this kind of software has been around for a long time. I recall using Finale Notepad back in 2003. Even then, there were still even older versions of this type of software available for free.
In the scheme of music history 2003 was yesterday.
too bad all the good stuff is overlooked in favour of pop music.
Helium Road just means more shitters who are lazy at music will get into it, and the average quality of music will go down.
Yet the modern music is the worst ever
My mind really wants to hear a harpsichord instead of a piano lol
DuhAverageJoe I would like to hear the finished version of this performed on a well tempered clavier.
Brandenburg Concerto No.3
Hey guys! do you think i'm on the right way? It's my first canon kkk
ruclips.net/video/8rUiN81PhXM/видео.html
Well this is not a Canon, nor a counterpoint piece, it is just a melody and its accompaniment as I hear it, and I think this is a little bit confuse as a music. Sometimes it feels like it lacks structure.
There are however some nice melodc ideas !
Keep in mind that I'm in no means an expert.
(Also please put the sharps on the key ! ^^)
edit: if you want it to sound like counterpoint, avoid the octaves intervals. At the beginig there are a lot of them and it's not great
Thank you very much! :D
06:06 - "Let's hear it."
Great lesson! Thanks!
You explained this really well, and I would love to see more videos on composition methods like this! I really appreciate that you're able to teach so efficiently while still getting all the necessary information across.
"Awesome! Sounds like counterpo--"
*End of video.*
You make it look so easy x.x I know you studied years to get to that level, but... Damn.
it is easy.........
If you think it is easy then you are not trying hard enough.
pigmemonkey canons to me are like a math formula you just follow the rules and "magic" will happen
You'll probably get to this point after a semester of music theory -- don't be discouraged :)
I've taken one year of music theory and I understand everything he is saying.
ADAM! I am using this video in my counterpoint class tomorrow. My students are tired of listening to me, and you explain it exactly the way I would have. Plus, they all think you're cooler than I am, so....
Nicely done Adam, you explained that clearly and concisely. I'd love to see more videos like these where you explore concepts like Canons and other things within music theory. Thanks for making these!
take a shot everytime he says "woohoo"
What year are we? 🥴🥴🥴
Wow! You make it look so easy and casual!
Ive been a fan of yours for a while, and my school didn't have music theory or much music classes (my current college major) and you and 12 tone were super helpful learning music stuff and these old videos are still wildly helpful and fun!
wtf?? THAT WAS FANTASTIC
This is exactly what I wanted to see, that fact that your narrating your thought process is great!
Needs...more...cowb......reverb.
qwaqwa1960 distortion and delay
all EQs at noon, just a little bit of reverb.
Why not both
MOAR COWBELL
Wow Adam, I learned two new major things about music and I JUST discovered your channel. Brilliant work!
This looked so fun that I just had to try it out for myself. I'm pretty happy with the result!
I would have ended the canon on A instead of C.
Ugh I know that bugged me so badly. I understand that he wanted to make it a true canon, but that B was just begging to resolve to an A
He probably would have finished on A if it was longer than three bars.
Dude this was the single most useful video for understanding how to make stuff sound "classical" (forgive the generality, I mainly listen to metal music) I've ever seen. I'd love it if you did more writing explanation videos like this!
Keep up the badass work brother!
This video helped me test out of Music Fundamentals and into Theory I. Thanks muchly.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO IT?!
at 6:08 man
david mays
Yeah. But he was finished by then.
It's just that he managed to create that without ever listening until the end.
Well when he writes a note we/he can hear it so you can imagine the melodies working together in your head
Sagolel4797
If you played them past each other within a short time I'd understand.
I'm just really impressed he'd know what it's going to sound like, if that is the case and he's not just using techniques, which would sill be impressive.
PauLtus B I'd figure his comfortable knowledge of music theory allows him a lot of extra skill in audiating the notes. The hardest thing to predict for me at least would be rhythmic alliteration or just awkward sounding transitions. The melody and harmony are sure to sound in the key when being written with the use of theory.
Euphonious, was the word you were looking for, I believe.
Eurythmic
Euphonium
euranus
euridite
eu gotta be kidding me!
this is literally a person explaining the composition process and i love it
The infamous Pachelbel's Canon popped into my mind as soon as I saw the title, but I'm glad I watched the whole thing. I stumbled across your channel not long ago and I enjoy your content. I've already learned some of the material through either college, or doing my own research, but it's nice to be able to go back and do some review with a sometimes different perspective. I like how you dive into most of the aspects of music, not just learning how to play an instrument.
YES watched this one over a few times while tinkering with Sibelius, love you
I should get this program when I compose canons I just do it in my head. This looks much easier
When it suddenly ended I found myself wishing the video was an hour long.
I'd love to have more of this. I'm looking through your other videos to see if you have some. This could be a format - short composition videos. Just saying... I'd watch lol
Just imagine what Telemann would have done with good software!
He'd have written a whole set of canon sonatas!
Can ylu do the same but for a fugue please? I'd imagine you do a similar thing, but there's a lot more variety that i think would make it very tricky
Can we get more of this kind of video please?
Great video Adam, watched it a couple times and its really helping me. I was wondering what program you're using? Is it apple exclusive? Cheers!
+victordeviking Sibelius, and no, definitely not!
It's Sibelius 6 and it's available for Mac and Windows
Musescore is indeed good, my only complaint is its marching percussion is less than great
It would be cool to see more videos like this where you take a theoretical concept and show how it would be used in a compositional environment, as well as/instead of existing examples. One way to get around the demonetisation, maybe?
"Sounds like counterpoint."
Well, I sure hope it does.
ROAD WORK AHE-
I love finding old adam neely videos accidently
Thanks for this video. Didn't know what a cannon was before this
Thanks a bunch for pointing out I should approach this like counterpoint, rather than setting up chords. That makes sense :-)
My new favourite channel :)
3:10 To me, Adam sounds like Mr. Garrison when he says "strange"
its look like Sibelius just annoying you when you working with as mine !! i mean drawing notes ...lol
anyway...thanks for great video...*_* !
yes ,of course :)
Every time I hear that F, I expect the rest of we are number one to play
So... it was, it was just that?!? Wow.
You make complex things seem easy.
wow end result was great
Would the middle section of Prophets Song by Queen be considered a canon
I believe it would. Great song!
I am ridiculously happy to find a mention of this song in a comment section. To answer the question, yes it's a canon, but more than that I just wanted to say how happy I was to see this comment :')
Same!
That was awesome! Thank you.
Quick question here. What is your opinion on linear counterpoint? Do you use it at all or do you always think in intervals? I use it a lot in my band and I find it a lot of fun.
check out Telemann's Canonical sonatas! they are all canons, and they change keys, and sound amazing.
I'm definitely not great at composing music, but I feel like that last note in the bass should be an A. Since the treble is a C the last note being a B to me doesn't really feel like an end to the song, it's almost like it's leaving me on a cliffhanger. Please explain the thing I'm either missing or hearing wrong!
Love how bored he is by the end. Top music school graduate attitude.
Thank you for uploading this.
This gives me some good ideas! Thanks
1:48
Great. Now I only hear Moanin' by Art Blakey...
"Woo-hoo" -Adam Neely
Genial! grettings from Brazil!
I love this letsplayer
I had Arthur Welwood for this class...2009.
I want the whole of music to be based upon canons. I even have a dream that one day, everything will be realized to be a canon.
Just play the Final Countdown over itself. Seriously.
Can you make a video on 12 tone Canons? If that even makes sense?
I really hope i wasn't the only one clicking on this video thinking he was composing for actual cannons? I mean I know canon is one less 'N' but a man get his hopes up right? No? okay..
I really was hoping for some 1812 overture action.
Canon for Two Cannons. Challenge accepted.
so you can consider the delay effect a canon since it does pretty much the same thing in a wider scale.
i'd say you CAN do a canon with delay, but for that to be you'd have to be thinking about the relationship between what you are playing and what you played which the delay is playing back... so relating counterpoint-ally to your own delay. Not all Delay is Canon, Canon is a musical procedure, Delay is an effect. And I don´t mean you have to obey the rules that Adam followed, which are the traditional ones, but that you'd have to be relating to the delay, not ignoring it
OMG IM STEALING THIS xD kidding, but it sounds so beautifull
These are fun! I did one in cubase!
Dustin Clark what? Why would he do this again???
Wow that actually sounded good. You're very fluent at composition Adam. Why don't you write more counterpoint?
I would expect a little bit more thinking done on the horizontal aspect of the voice as well rather than just considering what intervals work best each time and not discussing the continuity and cohesion of the whole. At the end of the day, counterpoint is all about the coexistence of musical lines that already sound complete in themselves, so I would like to hear more about how one can achieve that when writing a canon or any other kind of counterpoint rather than just discussing which intervals work best.
ahaha thank you for beeing totally non elitist that was really fun :)
So the Basics of the canon is to shift the Cantus firmus voice to voice?
Technically a round is a very specific type of canon. A canon can be the same melody played together with any kind of transformation of itself.
We're gonna start in the key of a minorrrrrrrrrr
Brilliant!
What is the difference between a fugue and a canon? They seem really similar in their use of counter point.
I tried this out and it was really fun! Would I waste my time as a composer if I wrote a four measure canon like this everyday for practice?
holy shit how did you do that
super cool!!
hahahaha i was just about to begin writing a fugue in Sibelius and this was just a bit too real for me
Great video! I just hope that you would have talked a bit more about when it is ok to use dissonances (on weak beats), since a beginning composer watching this can get an impression that only 3rds, 6ths, 5ths and 8ths/unisons are allowed.
CONSONANT, ADAM
I understand that fugues are similar, but what would you do differently for them?
Could you incorporate a third voice into this by doing the same thing with mirroring the preceding half bar? Any tips for this?
I think you just blew my mind.
About parallel fifths... I took theory in school, I know it's a classical no-no... but also as a metal guitarist it's definitely a solid tool that brings a lot of heaviness (especially when you write a riff in drop D and just play the same riff on the A string simultaneously). This will work on steel and nylon acoustic as well(No drop D required). If you play parallel fifths the guitar brings out this crazy aggressive natural "distortion"...Probably all the harmonics working together? I also like it when I record Rock vocals because I feel like my separate tracks blend well... but like you said it definitely does not bring out a second voice... only accentuates the root note in a way that makes it sound like an effect(like a 'Fifths Synth'.)
Thank you for bringing meaning to some previously discarded knowledge! I also learned not to throw away anything I learn from anybody.
yes like todd said, also many paralell 5ths and parallel octaves are allowed in a row, BUT its NOT allowed to be used in the middle of independent lines, as the lines lose there independent sound, which confuses the listener of how many lines they are listening too, and which ones which etc.... when theres multiple parallels in a row that is ok, because it doesnt confuse the listener
great.
Just a quick question, and I know it's a matter of taste these days, but for "traditional" harmony, when you are harmonizing a run of notes, how do you treat passing notes? Harmonize the on-grid ones?
That was cool.
Hey adam do you know of any programs that have a voice to text feature for writing music? It be cool to sing notes and there name and have it be transcribed.
I am looking for apps like this as well, and if I find one I will let you know. I do think Mixcraft ilets you do some fun things like modulate or augment (or time stretch) one vocal track and put it next to it's copy. And lots of loops and splicing ability. If you can play piano, it will also give you the midi piano roll or the notes for what you play. And you can enter in one track at a time, then put them next to each other and pick the bpm, etc.
@adam Neely, do you prefer this software youre using compared to others? I use finale notepad and often find it frustrating to use.
great!
Gah! The bass wants to end on A as well!
What software for composing do you use? I’m using Finale, I’m not a big fan
That sounds counterpoints
first melody kinda sounds like that one song from blank banshee
Should not the motif started on beat 3 of bar two (treble) end on an A (so bar 3 treble beat 1 is an a), so that bar 3 beat 3 in the bass is an A and you have a satisfying cadence? Love your vids
wow! genius!
It sounds more like one of Bach's Inventions.
I'm a beginner: Is Pachelbel's canon also rounds? why do i only hear one voice
Pachelbel's canon in D is a canon with 3 violins and one cello(which plays a repeating bass line) so maybe having multiple high pitched instruments confuses things a litte.
If it helps, take a look at a video that plays the piece alongside the score, so you can see and follow the voices.
@@pedroaf7223 Thank you very much for your reply. Which vid would you recommend me watching to learn?
@@jackeyzhu3702 I've found the follow ing video by the channel smalin: ruclips.net/video/T3uh75-OXQo/видео.html
If you are not familiar with music notation, it offers some colored horizontal lines that represent the notes, making easier to visualize the voices.
@@jackeyzhu3702 I also find this video very helpful: ruclips.net/video/bIx3pCpbEnw/видео.html
Like Adam Neely, he shows the composition of counterpoint (this time a fugue) from the eyes of the composer.
This is so fucking cool!
Kind of sounds like the midi unicorn
That would sound awesome on harpsichord... if it were to end ( i know there is a term but idk it)
Adam. I have been playing guitar for several years but I feel that I have no musical knowledge. so I want to learn music theory but I do not have the money to do so. Do you suggest any book to to learn music theory and harmony?
tyyyy
good video
nice!
How did you learn music theory? I'd love to have a better knowledge of theory
He went to school.