Was it Worth Building These? | ft. Matthias Wandel
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Building edge clamps started as a simple idea and escalated into a huge project with two collaborations!
Check out Matthias Wandel's video: • Testing joinery for ed...
and his channel: @matthiaswandel
Also, check out these channels:
CNC Kitchen: @CNCKitchen
Thespringguy: @thespringguy1
This Old Tony: @ThisOldTony
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Das Gewinnspiel beginnt am 9.9.2023 um 14:00 Uhr (CEST) und endet am 17.09.2023 um 20:00 Uhr (CEST).
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The giveaway starts on September 9th 2023 at 2pm (CEST) and ends on September 17th 2023 at 8pm (CEST).
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Enjoy the video!
This is the type of collaboration we need more of! Love that Matthias took part in this project.
& C&N kitchen w/ a This Old Tony cameo! Also glad to add thespringguy to my subs, looks like some interesting content to step up my spring game.
I want the clamps
Sehe ich auch so!
Except he totally ignored the results...
@@geekazoid47 Mathias said the double mortise and tenon joint and finger joint were strongest ones. It failed at the holes and reinforced ends, not at the joints. Marius then explained why he was going with the double morise and tenon joint for easier gluing and the number he had to do.
Hey everyone. Sorry for the confusion with the premiere. I thought to give it another try, but your responses clearly told me something else. WOn't happen again.
I'm looking forward to the live stream next Sunday 17th at 8pm (CEST) with Matthias and hope for some interesting questions.
if you want to do a premiere, dont make people wait a whole day for it. 30 min - 1 hour wait time max
@@ikbendusan Premieres simply suck. Not everybody wants to sit through the entire video, we're past that TV era. Even videos I love I still skip through some parts, and I really don't like not having that freedom. Also, comments are way better for interacting than a chat. Premieres are just the worst parts of videos and livestreams combined.
Great video, i liked it👍And I want the clamps !! 💪
The RUclips premiere feature can be more irritating than helpful when not executed well. It's a letdown to see a new video from a RUclipsr I love in my subscription feed, only to realize it's a premiere set to start 24 hours later. I was excited to watch it right away, so the long wait is frustrating. However, if the premiere were scheduled for just 30 minutes to an hour later, it would be a different story; I'd still get to enjoy the content the same day. Aside from that, I think the video concept is fantastic, and the giveaway is a wonderful gesture. Keep up the excellent work; I really enjoy seeing your creative process unfold.
I want the clamps
I love everything about this video, especially the engineering, the fabulously expensive tools, the collaboration, and your sense of humor.
15k in man hours, engineering, materials, plus having 50k in machinery, but saved 1500 bucks 😂😂RUclips projects are hilarious.
@@Juzzler I mean it all adds up. Think about it. $50k in high end production tools makes sense. $1500 for a few clamps...nah.
@@Juzzler I generally dont walk around in my sparetime thinking about the cost per hour when doing hobby projects. Could I save a lot of time by directly buying the parts instead of making them myself? Sure, but that'd mean I'd have to put in extra hours at work and I don't get the enjoyment (frustration) and experience from learning by doing =)
"he used expensive tools to do something that I could do with simple, cheap tools if I weren't just an armchair quarterback!!!!"
-Do-nothing hacks
@@innominatum9906 Hey I'm glad you learned and had fun. You at least didn't try to sell the idea that it was cheap and easy. Far too many channels like yours will say "build your own clamps for 20 bucks!" then proceed as you did with 10's of thousands of dollars of equipment and engineering not included in the price. It gets annoying when you have an idea of the true cost of some of these projects. I'm also jealous you have time for it :P
I think the only reason that the commercial clamps were able to exert more force, was that they had more rubber surface area. But like you said, it's plenty for gluing wood together. Nice build!
Thats the great thing bout woodworking. You dont want anything with excessive force as itll ruin the wood itsef hell look at a lot of tge old school clamps... they themselves are wooden.
@@кяуртіс Yes.
@@curry3734 While most material pairing have a relatively constant cof, pairings of which at least one element is rubber have a cof that sinks with rising contact pressure. Going by this most basic theory means spreading the load over a larger surface will give you a higher cof and therefore more grip for the same clamping force. The wet hill is not the right example in this case, since youre now comparing a dry polymer to solid body contact to a wet contact between a solid body (tire) and matter of undefined shape (dirt+grass).
Contact mechanics are a very complicated field field of engineering and even with all our modern technology it is not possible to reliably predict cof, even when you know the materials, surface shapes, roughness, roughness shape, load and relative velocity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_mechanics
@curry3734 in general the frictional force does not depend on the contact area. Spreading the same force over a larger area does not reduce the applied force. It only reduces the pressure (i.e. the force per unit area).
If you consider a very small portion of the contact area, then the force applied to that area is smaller when the total contact area increased. And thus that portion's contribution to the total frictional force is smaller. However, there are more small portions and so when you add up the effects of all the small portions you get the same total frictional force.
Now this model of friction isn't always correct, but it is fairly widely applicable.
The profile of the cam and stiffness/coefficient of rubber change the friction actually
I loved this collab. Two wonderful engineers going far beyond the normal. They each also considered stressing the parts and finding their limits. Often, that is not done. Congrats to each of you.
What a great breakdown of an interesting engineering challenge. I love that you you mention that they don't outperform the bought clamps, but *do* perform just fine for the intended job!
Yeah I liked this, the commercial ones were so expensive though
Yes I thought this build was great. I want the five clamps.
$300,000 in tools, $75,000 in labour and $7,000 in consultancy VERY WELL SPENT! Plus, you got to save 1.5k Euros. Totally worth it, in my opinion, what an awesome fabrication project. If that was your hobbie, you're doing it right. If that's your craft, that's what I call honing the skills. If this was a "just for YT thing" 1M viewers can't be wrong.
Labour is free!
@@smthnew861not in my book, but ok 😊
@smthnew861 so you work for free, eh?
In what world is Labor free I get anywhere from 85 to 450 an hour if my time is spent on own projects I'm not making money so yeah Labors not free never has been never will be
I love it for it's strict material constraints..and I really wanted to know if no glue or reinforcements would somehow be stronger because trees are meant to bend with the wind.
This is the best way for Matthias to collaborate with people. At home. Alone. Not with the person. Or anyone. Dude is so awkward. He’s the best.
Adding "He's the best." After an insult doesn't make it a compliment.
Not all thoughts need to be expressed. 👍
@@mojave7604 did your thought on the matter need to be expressed? Maybe I think it’s cool that socially awkward people can become wealthy, successful, respected, and appreciated even though they stay true to their awkward ways. It’s beautiful really.
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@@mojave7604 As a fellow awkward geeky guy, I don't see any insult in his comment.
@@mojave7604 as a fellow awkward geek guy I don't see the insult
Great job!
The dumbest solution to a problem I've seen in a very long time. I solved it in less than three minutes using rubber bands around the entire finished product. To calibrate the pressure, add more rubber bands. If the finished product is too large to stretch the rubber band around it, use two clamps and two boards with nails in them to hold the rubber.
It would also help when using his solution to know strength grows by x when added at the width and x^2 when added at the height.
When making your own tools you need to think simpler to turn a streaming profit. He will never turn a profit with his brain, but he was able to show off a lot of unnecessary tools - at least for this task.
You couldn't deny you're German, even if you wanted to. The excellent engineering and quality of all your work is why I've been watching you for years
The most german-engineer(revealing video for me was the "automatic" garbage can lid
LOL!!! ....and like a German, first instinct (his spring making) was to way over complicate the procedure. (T.I.B.S = Tool Induced Blindness Syndrome) ! LOL!😂😬
@@wingnutbert9685 But that's the most FUN part of it. Otherwise anyone could do it ;)
“Yes, I have tested the thread beyond any load it will realistically take and it survived. I’m still going to reinforce it more though.” 😅
Who doesn’t love a bit of German over-engineering?
Over engineering is usually good. But overly complicated engineering is a PITA! 🤣 @@Chimpiin
I don't do any work with wood or any other material [I don't have a space to do it] but I'm addicted to videos of makers. You are, without a doubt, the most incredible. In addition to excellent engineering and design, you are a fantastic presenter. Hug from Lisbon, Portugal.
u dont need extra space..i started to make things in my living room. a garage or basement room will also work. just get started!!!
I live in the center of Lisbon, in an 18th century building, on the 5th floor without elevator, in an area with almost no parking and not a single garage. My house is 48m2 [a living room, 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom and an elementary kitchen. As you can see, there's not much space to find, but thanks for the encouraging suggestion :)@@woodbeard9861
I’m not ashamed to admit I only clicked on this video because of Matthias. Wasn’t disappointed. But also mad it took 11 months for YT algorithm to recommend it.
Es ist einfach Wahnsinn, wie du an die verschiedenen Probleme ran gehst und Lösungen dafür findest.
Wenn man dir zuschaut denkt man, man befindet sich in der Produktentwicklung.
Meinen größten Respekt
What a great collaboration between two sensational youTube Makers! I love the story behind the design and all the failed attempts showing how much work goes into making anything worth building. Keep up the great work!
Marius, your work is really entertaining, and the video quality is outstanding. Your projects just getting better and better.
That's great how you made them yourself AND you talk to Mathias as he seems to be the master. I watch many of his videos as well as yours. Thanks for sharing but I don't need the clamps. Hopefully you give them to someone that will have a good use for them. You rock bro.
"Clamps, give em the clamps!"
"Gee, you think? You think that maybe I should use these clamps that I use every single day at every opportunity?"
This is the kind of workshop project I am way too familiar with. Spending tonnes of time on tools/jigs/fixtures to do what I'm really supposed to do more perfect/"cheap"/simple. Absolutely premium content!
Marius, du machst einfach auf eine sehr sympathische Art sehr coole Videos mit tollen Projekten! Respekt! LG
I love the agile yet minimalistic mix of materials and methods! And those jigs and templates, I hope I can find out more about your setups 🤩
Next do a project requiring custom electronic circuits, preferably foregoing PCBs and utilizing the existing materials to interface with components 😏
I 2nd this, i'd love to see embeded electonics with circuits etched into the surface like majik sigils.
The amount of effort you put in those beauties is insane in the best way possible. They look amazing and so useful. The manufacturer can take some hints from you. These are plenty strong and just imagine some people use just tape…
Man, yet another fantastic project and video. A true inspiration!
This has to be one of the greatest woodworking projects I have ever seen. Makes me want to go to the makerspace and make one.
Or twenty LOL !
You've clearly not seen a lot then
Thank you for posting your process. Very informative. You have patience, perseverance, discipline, an iterative design process, value quality, and good tools. Perfect, and rare, combination.
I am so glad Matthias' video introduced me to your channel, this is great stuff! And I also watch CNC Kitchen! I'm gonna go binge the rest of your videos now
I lived in Germany for 2 years, 1995-96, while working with steel construction engineers. This experience taught me why German engineering is the best. It's the way they approach a problem and the mind set. Marius is the epitome of this. Well done, again.
Excellent project! Just a small tip: you should add a springy material on the 3D printed part. The rubber you already have would be good enough for it. This spring will ensure that the loss of tension that will happen over time (because... well... it's a screw, it will loosen), will be compensated by relaxation of the rubber. With this addition, the tension will no longer fall off over time like it does now. Just a tip, do with it what you will.
What a professional approach and so much work, that's why I love people like that and I'm glad they exist and give us all joy and hope👍
After all the amazing work and problem solving that you put into this, I hate to say that for me, the blue metallic paint was the showstopper! That stuff looks incredible, even moreso considering it just comes out of the paint gun and looks like that. Definitely looking into that! Great video and project, they look awesome. 👍
I want the clamps! These are amazing, love the work and tooling you've put together!
Very cool design Marius, I really like the double collaboration with both Mattias and Stefan as well, and a very nice result indeed, especially the paint job, they look like metal clamps because of it
Marius, you are one of the best channels on YT. These are great!
Amazing work. Your attention to detail and dedication to every component is great to watch.
Great video, really spectacular project! Ngl the amount of effort was just nuts. I was happy to just be the viewer. I know it is not the main aspect but you definitely payed that 1.5k with your time. Been there, done that - it's part of the fun.
Truly educational content and I honestly enjoyed every minute of it. You are a great craftsman and the clamps turned out to be awesome - well mainly due to your thorough approach.
really well done!
thank you for sharing.
Great video Marius and also great clamp! It is very interesting to be guided through production process; it puts things in perspective and to some degree explains the prices of the tools (and other products) we use.
Amazing work, your clamping pad is definitely better than the commercial version as well. Watching you assemble these was very satisfying, accuracy in every detail pays off in assembly.
I'm sure everyone would want a set of these, had no idea such a clamp existed!
I always enjoy your videos. You really have an amazing set of skills and a lot of ingenuity. I also love how you included other makers in your video (some of my favorites). Keep up the amazing work!
Love the detail of your videos. The process is very interesting to watch. Great work!
Loved watching the production process and testing. Would be fun to know the cost comparison based on the material costs for your homemade version (disregarding the tons of hours of time that went into producing them).
Yes, to know the difference in the cost to build and to compared to the price to purchase. I’m very interested in this.
Matthias is in Canada, Marius in Germany - shipping that box was already the price of one 'brand' clamp 😉 And he used 'old' wood - but all other stuff (CNC etc.) needs to be added. Obviously his hours - impossible to calculate - maybe chalk it as 'education'. Plus, monetized here on YT.
I would bet the amount of time alone would make all this way more expensive, but way more fun and interesting. Most likely learned a lot on the journey also.
Great to see your very creative videos. Fantastic job as usual
The most German video ever.
Aber sicher
@@MrShrog Gemeint ist wohl das typische Overengineering für ursprünglich einfache Lösungen. 😂 Amerikaner würden sich nach günstigen Bessey BPC Pipe Clamps umgucken, wenn sie die nicht eh schon haben. Schon allein der zeitliche Aufwand, der hier betrieben wurde ist eigentlich nicht gerechtfertigt und weit weg von jeder wirtschaftlichen Rechnung. Es hätte noch gefehlt, dass er die CO2 Ersparnis ausgerechnet hätte, was ja auch eine sehr Deutsche/Europäische Macke ist. 😂
Marius, I love the stackability of your version. Very beautiful design!
I want the clamps!
You are a very skilled maker and videographer.
Awesome project.
The bought clamps also have a much bigger grip area compared to yours so would have given an extra grip advantage to them, if they had smaller pads or if you made some with wider pads then the test would probably be closer. Awesome work 👌
First collab with such woodworking legend, can't wait :)
Beautiful. Love all the engineering and repeatable test results.
All the efforts you put in this is unbelievable, but very educational and entertaining. Liked and subscribed!!!
I want the clamps
Of course, I appreciate the amount of learning you get and the entertainment value of the video. But, I'm not so sure that ultimately if you consider the tooling, design time, prototyping and final production, these clamps cost any less than the Bessey ones. 🙂
Absolutely true. It would only amortize when I make hundreds of them
This is what I still want to know: Price comparison! How much does your clamp cost?
Well he also gets a video out of it 😉 (though most of us can't use the same argument to justify 😅)
@@hattibugatti You know the price is going to be different for everyone yea? I have all the materials lying around. So for me it comes down to time. Feasibly I could make 30 clamps in a few days. But I can't earn a spare 1500 euros in a few days lol. So I'm seeing value.
My grandfather was a carpenter and i spent years working with him at the shop. making your own tools was a very common task but a much easier one since we didn't stop to film everything and setup the next shot.
I'm thinking £1500 is the better option after all the jigs and trial and days of labor.
Absolutely. It’s € btw, so £1.260.
Benefit: you get to publish a RUclips video that gets 1.9 million views ;)
Plus loads of experience and skills gained
Nah, the hard way is better when it is also the fun way.
@@adorp this is a lesson that is so hard to teach and so rewarding to learn.
@@cardguys first world problems.
You don't live in a nation that floods every year, then gets destroyed in cyclone every year, or sees a military coup every year.
By your logic, India is Russia's vassal state.
I'll never understand why these dudes don't just learn to weld and start working with steel. This project would have taken one day
❤ welding and laser
мастерство на высоте. очень аккуратная работа на каждом этапе и внимание к деталям - супер круто
I want the clamps!
Great video. Thanks for showing your process!
Enjoy watching the thought process and the build. Got some good nuggets for my future projects. Thanks
And now that I left the clamps comment, man, awesome work, it's amazing seeng you work and test everything. I loved the spring-making part, I learnt a lot.
great work, great video. Thanks to all of you.
So clever thinking of that finger tab to open the clamps for thicker stock...... Patent..!! (And yes......totally worth it!!)
This Old Tony is becoming a youtube legend, you are like the 5th one to mention him this year
this is wwhat pioneers are built upon! inventing the cheapest, simplest way of using a great invention,, I hope more people notice! I'm not as much of a woodworker, as I am mostly a graphic designer and an artist, but maybe on a future proyect I'll consider building one like these, or ordering a clamp from you if you ever make comissions for it! it has soooo many applications!
..What a journey! Thanks for sharing & a job WELL done. Respect.
A free resource you may wish to use is street sweeper bristles from the machines that clean city streets each week.
They are spring steel, and they are brittle enough to break off cleanly. You can find one on average about every 2 city blocks by keeping an eye on the gutters as you walk around any city that has the machines that use them.
It does take some trial and error to learn how much they can bend and how to get them to stay where you want them, but this video shows that you are very capable of doing that kind of thing.
Wow. Not merely stunningly good looking, but also an excellent presenter. Thanks. Signed in.
this is an incredible video, thanks for taking us along for the ride
Late to the party but I wanted to also submit that I really enjoyed the wholesome collaboration with other excellent creators! Thank you for this content!
How cool. I rarely see another Marius! Especially another woodworker / maker Marius. ;) Great video!
I want the clamps! These are great btw and thanks for all of the details in your design and build process.
Awesome work and research brother liked and subscribed for this video as it's always good to see a engineer that clearly shows their learning process for others to learn from
I sure wanted the clamps :) Great Job Marius! I love the tabs for opening the cams. I've used the aluminum ones a lot, and I agree they're awkward.
Nice clamps, Marius, and hard work to get the job done🙂
That was a wonderfull journey to watch! Thanks for the inspiration!
I hadn't seen your channel until now but I'm glad I found it. Great work
Moin Marius ich bin voll begeistert, obwohl ich nur wenig englisch verstehe, die Zwingen sind Großartig geworden
Very nice idea. Didnt even know that such clamps exist. I like the improved version that you made
Love this project, and the detailed explanation of your design, building, and testing process. I just stumbled into your channel from my feed, and I'm glad I did! I can't wait to check out more of your content.
Absolutely fantastic videos. Interesting, fun and highly entertaining. Thank you Marius.
You're tingling my woodworking senses ...
Matthias is such a g I can't believe he went out of his way to provide additional testing in the form of reinforcements to aid in your findings. What a fucking legend.
I'm surprised you got the nuts to align, but I suppose it makes sense if they usually start the threads in one of six orientations. Your spacing would also have to line up then. I might have done a single nut pressed in and then run the tap through the nut and wood to have wood threads backed up by a nut. Just a thought. Really amazing project! So cool to see how many different processes and techniques you used to get the final product. Love all the prototyping too. Glad this video has paid off views wise.
I want those! I'm sure it's very late but I just found the video. Well done!
Lol. He watches "this old Tony" too! Love that guy!
Any DIY project where the end result is twice as expensive and half as effective, I consider it a win!
amazing work, video and funny luckily safe incident!
I want the clamps. This was a fantastic journey to watch
I want the clamps!! My 12 year old son and I thoroughly enjoyed this video. You are so good at explaining things and making it interesting and fun to watch! Thank you! Do you like Star Wars?
Nicely made video, great job on the claps
I want the clamps!😀
Congrats! Nice project!
I couldnt contain my giggling when I first saw Mr Matthias, not because hes funny looking or anything but just because he looks like the dad from "honey I shrunk the kids" so it was quite funny watching him test your design!
hey, love this video. I know that rabbit hole you get into when you think "hey, let's save some money and diy it... lol. But I do not have those nice machines... nor the space... sigh.. keep up the good work!
tolles Video! ichliebe deine Detailverliebtheit!
I want the clamps. Great project execution!
This is awesome 👏🏻 you have great talent and thanks for the awesome content. Greetings from America 🇺🇸
A lot of work to make a clamp, but you did a great job, and yes I would like a clamp, even though I am a little late.
Very impressive problem solving. Also very impressive tool library.
Fun fact: most medium soft silicone cruiser skateboard wheels are the exact same silicone compound that big manufacturers use for gripping or traction, and this silicone can be easily molded into whatever shape you like :) oh and it’s super cheap
The CNC Kitchen channel rules. Stefan is a rock star in the 3d printing world. It appears these clamps are good for 40KG of clamping force. That is a lot of force. Even 10Kg would be good for any glue up I would ever do. These clamps are great.
I want the clamps. As usual you did a superb project and video!
I can’t get over that router! Wow❤❤❤
I want the clamps!!!
Danke Marius!