First Look At D&D's Divine Soul Sorcerer In Xanathar's Guide To Everything
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I really like how there are enough subclasses coming that you could have "themed" adventuring parties but still have separate classes. For example, an entirely religious party, a party from the Feywild, etc.
Never really thought about that... Neat.
I get that. I'm just worried the classes get watered down so there is no class individuality. Wanna heal? Pick any class.
True, but if someone takes what most consider a "healing" class and doesn't want to heal (say a death cleric) then having that flexibility might be helpful
Yeah! I think it'll be fun to have a lot of different ways to heal, a lot of different ways to deal damage, cast spells, etc. I think they'll do a pretty good job of balancing them.
The beauty about roleplaying--especially in dnd--is that you could have two people who are both playing the same class, e.g. two fighters, but with the variety in subclasses they could be totally different. Yeah it blurs the lines between the core classes but it's a very fresh take on the subclasses that make them more interesting.
So someone's gotta play a Divine Soul Sorcerer named Brian who refuses to believe that he's a prophet and thinks that all the spells he's casting are just pure coincidence
always look at the bright side of life
I´m Brian and so is my wife!
i've already done this...
Who the hell is Brian?
Grinlathak It’s a reference to Monty Python‘s Life of Brian
old, but still worth a watch
I like that the Divine Soul can easily be just an accident or some sort of miracle instead of being under oath or under the control of a deity.
I always love characters who haven't chosen their power and just deal with what they got.
I thought up a background for a Divine Soul for a game I'm playing. Our group has no healer and it would be a super cool addition.
The story for that Divine Sould would go something like this: Her powers came from seemingly nowhere. They awakened during child labour. It killed the nurse and blinded her helper. The Divine Soul simply ran away, leaving behind the baby out of fear that it was the source of the problem. She then travels far from home while realizing her potential and she decides to not come back, to avoid the repercutions of the events.
I like this new direction for Favored Soul. My issue with the class before was that it felt more like it revolved around a mechanic rather than a role playing concept. The very name itself screamed special snowflake. But with Divine Soul, you can still be a special snowflake or your origin can be as simple as "My dad was a unicorn. We dont talk about it."
Love how he was dancing around saying "Jesus".
"well, uhh, think of it with religious figures. perhaps related to gods...they do miracles. you know, like that". he wanted to say Jesus so bad.
Got it, Hercules but magic 👍
Not sure why but Hercules but magic translated to Big Mac in my head. Cause Hercules is big and Mac sounds like words got slurred when someone said magic.
Aasimar (Scorge) Divene Soul Sorcerer, because good is not soft and celestials aren't always nice.
An "Angel" bring GOD'S justice is the scariest thing a Sinner can Witness !
To late to repent , you are Hell bound .
How about a Tiefling Divine Soul Sorcerer with sawed off horns known as The Forgiven? His calling being that he is to lead other tieflings to a life of virtue and good instead of a life of crime and evil that they are so often pushed into.
what, you want to play Hellboy?
Good shit
OMG YOU'RE RIGHT. Although, I think he would be more of a fighter, but I love the concept.
....you just ruined hellboy.....he's a punk rocker ! not a Love and forgiveness guy!
Perfectly valid concept. Party on, Wayne.
Glad to hear a mention of the Mystic. I really want to see it included.
PootToot they have said it won't be including any new classes. And after the last "i am a living god" mystic implementation i want to see a rework go through playtesting first.
Shame the ranger didn't make it in time
I don't think he was referring to the 5e Mystic, but rather the 2e mystic class which was a Charisma based divine spellcasting class.
Was thinking part way through the video "Sounds like Muad'Dib type character". Loved that you guys made the same connection haha.
So happy this subclass made it in. I'm starting a new campaign soon and I'm planning for my bard to multiclass into this at a critical moment in the campaign's story.
So many good backstories opened up by the "pantheon" of gods...
An aasimar who is the chosen of Mystra, and through their mastery of magic can ascend into celestial-hood...
A changeling who inherited their shapeshifting through their ties to Selune, known for her championing of benevolent shapechangers...
A half-drow, born between a drow father and silver dragon mother, prevented from embracing their draconic lineage by the lingering influence of Lolth...
A tiefling striving to transcend their Infernal ties to an Archdevil, like Asmodeus or Dispater, and embraces a heroic path while fending off their fiendish influence...
Makes me think of Rand al'Thor from the Wheel of Time...
I can see as an Divine Soul Sorcerer NPC being a very intriguing focal point of an adventure the band of adventures are setting out on.
A secluded village shrouded in the thick, flourishing woods of the northern regions. The players happen upon this village as they venture after a lead and discover this community in an almost unspoken turmoil. Individuals are shuffling about refusing to speak to the strangers, everyone is averting their gaze, and all keeping a healthy distance from a specific house. Within this house, a young child lives with their family, however holding peculiar abilities that the village finds otherworldly and of evil magics.
There could also be a plot twist with an NPC who was believed to be a D.S Sorcerer of Holy origins but end up being that of the lesser, evil entities.
Already preordered the book!! So wish I had it in my hands right now!!
Damn it what I wanted was a sorcerer with the cleric spell list (amended) and the sorcerer spellcasting mechanics. That would be cool
I'm sensing the final version will feel a little like the PF Oracle and I'm okay with that!
I'd so love to play an Aasimar Divine Soul but I'll 100% be scoffed at for making my character a special snowflake. I realised I would also play him as a scourge Aasimar for resisting his heritage but I have a feeling I would be both a snowflake and an edge lord >.>
Amer Turkistani it'd be a more believable origin than Dragonic. Like how special snowflake can you be having both an angel and a dragon in lineage?
C R A W L I N G I N M Y S K I N
most edge lords act so because they think that its cool and that's it. Give your character a detailed enough backstory and personality that they seem more realistic and understandable. Don't forget to add details that show that the character lives on the same ground as the other characters. It also helps if you get help from the DM on how your ancestry may tie into the adventure.
Amer Turkistani Both Tiefling and Aasimar Divine Souls would be common in Mulhorand and Unther, maybe Chessenta too.
@TheGenlemanDuelist Bahamut
Anyone else feel like Mike was tiptoeing around saying the name Jesus?
Jesus would be a Cleric... Create Food/Water, Water Walk, Calm Emotions, Resurrection spells. It's all there.
no
His description; "...coming in from the wilderness to challenge the accepted order..." is exactly the tale of Jesus and the Essenes Tribe. There are countless prophets from countless religions that follow a similar diagram, even Zarathustra. Its a compelling story, one that can challenge both the individual and civilization.
Maybe closer to John the Baptist?
Prana Khan ....now i need to play a prophet Divine Soul
Aasimar Divine Soul, Tiefeiling Celestial Warlock, Dwarven Cleric, Human Paladin. Play Blade-Lock to back up the paladin for martial combat while sorcerer and cleric do magic stuff.
Have a holy crusade against the powers of evil. Make it a goal to destroy the artifacts of Vecna or rescue the Paladin stuck in the mace of Orcus.
Iv been playing a divine soul for over a year now out of my parties need for a Healer I find it interesting but my character is ignorant of the origin of his ability to cast spells that were previously assumed to be the realm of divine casters he is very curious about it. Personally I find the sorcerer has less flexibility then the warlock in general as warlocks have a wider array of eldritch invocations vs sorcerers have metamagic. As well as the ability to change one out at each level allowing them to be more flexible. Though having access to a whole new spell list did make a much needed change
Not got around to playing a Sorceror in 5E yet.
I loved the Invoker class in 4E, but I didn't feel like it had to be an entire class of its own. I thought it could easily have worked as part of the Cleric or Sorceror classes and I'm hoping Divine Soul Sorceror has some Invokery stuff in it.
I really want to see the Ancestral Guardian Barbarian in Xanathar's, hoping that because it got a revision it'll make it.
Cayotick I can confirm it made it
Oh, man. I can just imagine the guy who talked to Arkay in Skyrim's Dawnguard DLC with this subclass. Hahaha.
I love this concept. My DM house rules that we roll for what social class we're from. I'm an aasimar cleric slave. That's perfect. Dude shows up and tries to reform his church, and gets all persecuted by the high priest. Now he's back, living in the underground, waiting for his chance to confront the high priest in public, Moses versus Rameses style! These new sub-classes have a ton of roleplaying potential.
My divine soul sorcerer is only a divine being when it's convenient for him. Be celebrated and fed grapes? Hell yeah. Answer a summon to cleanse a nearby tomb of an undead army that's slowly growing under mysterious circumstance? Hell nope.
Now just waiting for the hellfire sorcerer also one for fey blooded
Now I need a Demonic Bloodline sorcerer.... I'd like to see what an official subclass would look like, since I've already homebrewed my own. XD
So I could be elf Jesus if I wanted? That's amazing! I'm a Christian and I find the idea of that hilarious. To have basically what amounts to Jesus Christ in a dnd game sounds hilarious.
This man could talk someone out of existence. Holy fuckin speech.
I have a divine soul sorcere in my party I'm running through Curse of Strahd and it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
With this subclass could you start with cleric spells/cantrips right out the gate? Like at lvl 1
I'm looking to have both Prestidigitation and Thaumaturgy
Sorrowful Cheshire yes. You can pick spells from the cleric spell list right out of the gate, cantrips and all. Also because you can use these spells right out of the gate you can use all cleric spells too. A divine soul sorcerer is basically a cleric with meta magic.
@@matthewchapman1146 Thank you soo much this was killing me!
Thank you
Oh man now I really hope the Stone Sorcerer made it..alhtough I doubt it.
TravistheGREAT03 that AC mechanic is super cool.
Same really want to make a Stone Sorcerer Earth Genasi :D
If it did I'm betting its called the metal sorceror now
With proficiency in the axe
Eric Plunkett it took me a minute to get that funny
I'm intrigued by the changes
Eladrin divine soul sorcerer going out into the material plane trying to shepherd elves to the feywilds so that in time the elves can prove worthy to return to Arvandor.
Really wanted Sea Sorcery
Storm Sorceror is a thing, isn't that Sea Sorcery?
no
So basically, if you multiclass this with rogue/fighter you can be a Red Mage (from FF), right?
Dargor Majere the red mage would already be Bard.
The Primeval Guardian Ranger, Storm Herald Barbarian, and Drunken Master Monk better be in Xanathar's
Tiger Shark 378 drunken master is a safe bet, it's very popular I heard some where
That's good
Tiger Shark 378 Primeval Guardian did not make it, the other two did.
Gyor Gyor there should be there though, shouldn't there?
YES! I love this sub class
Did he say DeeBee?! Takes me back to Rifts days man!!
Has there been any hints on if the stone sorcerer made it into Xanathars guide?
Sorcerers and Warlocks are usually arcane spellcasters., but what are the Divine Soul Sorcerers and Celestial Warlocks? Are they arcane or divine spellcasters?
Arcane but has divine magic.
Why no mention of the original Favored Soul character Cadderly from the Cleric Quintet?
Koda Hansen I didn't realize Cadderly was a Favoured Soul.
He was referred to as "chosen" by Deneir and could cast spells spontaneously (praying for spells had never worked for him previously). How else to describe his class than Favored Soul?
So you can a person a reincarnation of a god... I'm down with it!
Wait, does that mean the Mystic is now going to be called the Avatar?
soulkutu no one of the Mystic subclasses is Order of the Avatar
robert oliver I haven't seen such a subclass for Mystic, so I think he was referring to the 2e class of the same name which was a charisma based divine spellcaster
thomas ball crap, your right, they named the Ardent subclass the Order of the Avatar, I have absolutely no idea why, I really don't like it.
Maximized healing, better healer than the cleric
next? white wizard (ff White Mage)
Does this mean no Stone Sorcerer? That’d be a real shame.
Fayth300 Not necessarily as fighter has at least 3 so far.
Oh god whats next? Theurge Wizard?
Theurge didn't make it, sadly.
Jared Hite I would call that a good thing. Theurge was fundamentally broken when they basically just made it a cleric except better.
next? white wizard (ff White Mage)
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I wanna see a barbarian sub class ;-;
this dude's voice so much like jason dohring
Liked for Dune reference.
Soooo do you still have access to the cleric spell list?
Romeo E I think so, I think he would have mentioned it if you didn't
1:20-2:00 they say healing was baked in but now only one option gives you that. So I think you get select spells added to your sorcerer spell list rather than replace the sorcerer spell list with clerics.
Sounds like each main alignment option will have its own subset of additional spells from what he said.
D&Durken cure wounds being baked in did not impact getting access to the cleric spell list, so I doubt this change will either.
Gyor Gyor but if not all versions get Cure Wounds then it is heavily implied that the full spell list is not available as not every version gets Cure Wounds
Given Clerics and Paladins can be “chosen”, isn’t this just a massive wash over their portfolios with a Sorcerer?
*_W E A L L G E T T O B E C H O S E N_*
Tbf You can make anything chosen folk hero, etc
I worked with my friend to reskin the divine soul sorceror as a luck manipulator a la vriska serqet from homestuck.
Right at 2:17 Mearls burps and he looks so shocked
Battlemage class pls pls
I play exclusively Clerics, and this Divine Soul is making me feel inadequate.
I mostly play clerics too, but I really want to give this class a shot.
Sorcerers cannot switch out their prepared spell list on a long rest. The only time they can change any spells is when they level up which lets them switch one spell in addition to getting one more. Since the best thing they can do is possibly out-heal a non-life cleric (and that's ignoring the tons of support and utility clerics give), I think I'd still rather have a cleric in my own party.
It's an interesting contrast. But clerics have more versatile spell selection, better health, and often more proficiencies, which kind of plays up the idea that they are better educated and trained despite having less raw aptitude.
Kinowolf they also get Channel Divinity and the ability to ask their God for miracles.
On the other hand Divine Souls are more flexible with the spells they do know, get an extra Metamagic, and can cast spells more often thanks to sorcery points. They also can select from both the Sorceror and Cleric spell lists, which includes Wish. They will likely get a few other advantages, but I don't know what.
Jesus
So, Divine Soul Sorcerer can heal, buff, control and attack....he looks too versatil and powerful to me
Andy A Limited spells known will curb that some, bards (lore especially) already can have that with a soild class chaisse to back them up.
@@branwolf8616 Even so, MetaMagic can make some great use out of those limited spells.
I like it, I wanna play a generic magic-born sorcerer without tpk-ing my party with a wild mage fireball
Is Mystra the god of magic?
I think it's mystra
Is it just me or would with work well for building a character whose Jesus? Both among the common people, chosen by the gods, the child of a deity, considered a heretic by the corrupt church.
*like* Jesus, certainly.
similar but not much past those things, sorcerers are pretty much made to fight & throw spells around
jesus was said to be more of the sit & talk and heal some people sometimes kinda guy
Grey I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to do a pacifist Sorcerer build, plus sorcerers already spec high into charisma anyways.
Think specing into Wis then Cha then Con. Take Folk Hero background and Protector Aasimar, Divine Soul Sorcerer, train in Insight and Religion, Take Water Walk at level 5 and I feel like itd be a pretty good fit
That would be cool
It's interesting how he really seemed to go out of his way to just not mention Jesus from the bible. Born amongst the people, chosen one, miracles etc.
A lot of repeated classes, but still nothing from Monk.
Moses Lord all except wizard are getting at least 2 they say
+Daniel Cross I'm referring to this video series. They showed 3 Fighter subclasses, 2 sorcerers. Repeated classes instead of showing us what is coming for the other classes );
Moses Lord so some interesting surprises then. Plus there's still a month to go, I'm sure we'll get some on them.
So being the child of a god doesnt make you a demigod anymore? What about race? Are you aasimar as well, or is that just lower celestials? What about lower plane gods that have teiflings?