What happened to Jeffrey Sinclair after he left Babylon 5? | Valen

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @brenturquhart7090
    @brenturquhart7090 3 года назад +55

    I think it was very admirable that the show’s management let Michael O’Hare leave the show when he became mentally unstable, yet kept him as an integral character of Babylon 5 story line. It was also admirable that not only did they keep him in the story line, but they also made allowances for his mental health when he was brought back briefly to close out his characters story.
    It was very gracious of them to keep his illness a secret. They even would have kept his health a secret forever, but O’Hare asked that they give the real for his departure when he died so that it might help others who suffer from mental health as well. Hollywood was not known to be kind to those who suffer from mental health back then.

  • @waltermcgarvin8001
    @waltermcgarvin8001 3 года назад +31

    The fact that JMS had the entire series laid out from the beginning to end is amazing. Even more amazing is that he had to change it all after the actor who played Sinclair asked to be released from his contract over severe anxiety issues.

    • @Xalgucennia
      @Xalgucennia 3 года назад +14

      Schizophrenia actually, anxiety would be a whole different kettle of fish

    • @paulpisano8538
      @paulpisano8538 3 года назад +7

      Michael was sick and could not continue. He was a hero for staying for the entire first season.

    • @beesod6412
      @beesod6412 Год назад

      we got a much better commander IMO.

    • @Jagunco
      @Jagunco Год назад

      I read that every character in the series had a 'Trapdoor' in case something happened to the actor. A good bit of planning on his part. Used it twice I believe.

  • @everdinestenger1548
    @everdinestenger1548 Год назад +7

    Babylon 5 is still one of my favorite series. I am watching it again.

    • @SpaceVENTING
      @SpaceVENTING 7 месяцев назад

      It's always wonderful when someone enjoys this Masterpiece

    • @pyrox7x
      @pyrox7x 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah. Im doing the same right now.

  • @the_sixxness
    @the_sixxness 2 года назад +12

    Michael O'Hare was amazing as Sinclair. I hope that in the new series we get more about Sinclair and the first Shadow War. RIP Michael O'Hare you were big reason we loved Babylon 5.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 Год назад +1

      It took me a while to warm up to him. He had that monotone type of voice that I've never cared for. But as the series went on and then on rewatch, I came to like him and even love him. I started another rewatch and I appreciate and enjoy him more than ever!

    • @AshwinRamdin
      @AshwinRamdin Год назад

      I think JMS has state John Sheridan will be the main character from the start.

    • @the_sixxness
      @the_sixxness Год назад

      @@AshwinRamdin That dosen't mean we won't get more Sinclair.

    • @AshwinRamdin
      @AshwinRamdin Год назад

      @@the_sixxness True, but I think in a limited capacity.

  • @gemmel3197
    @gemmel3197 3 года назад +12

    Sinclair was my favorite character, so sad what happened to Michael O'Hare. Thanks I learnt something, though I knew all the lore.

  • @michaelgillman2505
    @michaelgillman2505 4 года назад +19

    "To Dream in the city of sorrows" by K Drennan is the official canon story.

  • @Elsorkora
    @Elsorkora 2 года назад +5

    Wow that's awesome Delenn was a descendent of Jeffrey St. CLARE/Valen.

  • @bbbabrock
    @bbbabrock Год назад +1

    While I didn't warm to B-5 until after Sinclair left, I did prefer him to Shereden.

  • @hogheadtb6489
    @hogheadtb6489 4 года назад +6

    So many stories to tell. I hope someone will carry on the tales. In Valen's name!

  • @SuperZekethefreak
    @SuperZekethefreak 3 года назад +7

    Well, if he went beyond the rim and joined the First Ones, then he and Sheridan ultimately caught up with each other!

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Год назад

      You didn't mention that Sheridan meet up with Sinclair nearly 50 years later. Sheridan was killed at Za' hadoom as Vorlon Ambassador Kosh predicted. But was Brought back life by one of First Ones. Catch was Sheridan only live about 50 years afterwards.

    • @manwiththeredface7821
      @manwiththeredface7821 Год назад

      ​@@paulhunter6742 20 years. He only got 20 more years to live.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 Год назад

      ​@@paulhunter6742it was 20 years, not 50...

  • @sonorousjab
    @sonorousjab 3 года назад +4

    OK, how did Sinclair as Valen find Catherine? @6:20. Aren't they in different parts of the timeline?

    • @paulpisano8538
      @paulpisano8538 6 месяцев назад

      she went into the past in to dream in the city of sorrows.

  • @popmonika
    @popmonika 4 года назад +26

    I'm pretty sure Sinclair knew delenn was a member of the grey council in the first season? Didn't the soul hunter tell him that she was satae? (sorry for spelling)

    • @InAnimateGamer
      @InAnimateGamer 4 года назад +6

      It also doesn't seem clear in this video of when Sinclair contacted "Garibaldi and his friends" on B5 (shortly after being assigned as Ambassador on Minbar), as Garibaldi was still unconscious following his getting shot in the back and during that time Garibaldi was out of commission, Sinclair was already recalled/reassigned.

    • @fmlazar
      @fmlazar 3 года назад +2

      He suspected... but his suspicions would not be confirmed before his eventual journey to Minbar.

  • @JonBowe
    @JonBowe 2 года назад +2

    Wasn't Dukhat a descendent of Valen as well, as most of the Minbari on the flagship did not know the Vorlon's were onboard?
    He knew the Humans would be needed to fight the next shadow war and was on a secret task to find them.

  • @Andy13april64
    @Andy13april64 3 года назад +2

    The message from Jeffrey Sinclair was from season 3. It was the episodes 16, (The message) and 17 to complete the story, that started in Babylon Squared.

    • @lyncat
      @lyncat 3 года назад

      The message was in season 2, when Garibaldi 1st encountered the rangers (one was carrying the message). Sinclair returned in season 3, the 2-parter War Without End, to complete his arc.

  • @IrideaeSnowbloom
    @IrideaeSnowbloom 3 года назад +2

    I really like the footnote that Babylon 4 was not destroyed and is still out there *somewhere*

    • @fmlazar
      @fmlazar 3 года назад

      It was blown up in the comics to keep the Minbari from finding out more of the true nature of Valen.

    • @manwiththeredface7821
      @manwiththeredface7821 Год назад +1

      "still out there somewhere"
      And sometime...

  • @calvinlweir2795
    @calvinlweir2795 4 года назад +7

    Sinclair is Valen

  • @detectivesquirrel2621
    @detectivesquirrel2621 4 года назад +2

    A couple of things make little sense as Delenn told Sinclair about what happened at the Battle of the Line on Babylon 5 as seen in the last episode of season 1. Also as a P5 Talia Winters would not have been able to scan a Psi Cop.

    • @michaelweigel8253
      @michaelweigel8253 4 года назад +4

      Nooron to Sinclair, " Commander, you talk like a Minbari".

    • @MogoFromHell
      @MogoFromHell 4 года назад +2

      Wasn't she buffed by Ironheart at this point ?
      She had mild telekinetic abilities, I'd say she was more than P5 but didn't register

    • @detectivesquirrel2621
      @detectivesquirrel2621 4 года назад

      @@MogoFromHell Still unlikely to be able to scan a Psi Cop without being noticed

    • @MogoFromHell
      @MogoFromHell 4 года назад

      @@detectivesquirrel2621 fair point yeah maybe even Lyta couldn't scan one stealthily

    • @detectivesquirrel2621
      @detectivesquirrel2621 4 года назад +1

      @@MogoFromHell Agreed. Talia is indeed above a P5 after her encounter with Ironheart but with the Psi strength and training of Psi Cops even powerful Alien Telepaths don't seem to be able to scan them stealthily enough

  • @roberthart2825
    @roberthart2825 2 года назад

    Would have loved to see more stories about valen

  • @uliwitness
    @uliwitness 4 года назад +3

    Would be nice of you to include sources for these claims. Some of this comes from tie-in novels, and some of this from comics.

  • @lencolgan987
    @lencolgan987 4 года назад +5

    I had the paperback that touched on this years back ( wished they could have filmed it as a special etc)

  • @jedironin380
    @jedironin380 4 года назад +6

    I liked Catherine. :(

    • @peppermintspacecapsule9898
      @peppermintspacecapsule9898 4 года назад +5

      *SPOILER ALERT*
      Read the last page of "In Valen's Name," I'm fairly sure it'll make you happy!

  • @michaelweigel8253
    @michaelweigel8253 4 года назад +2

    You have to used the Kosh voice.

  • @SuperMarry23
    @SuperMarry23 3 года назад +2

    I love Babylon 5. Lets hope it starts up again.

    • @RahimRahmat
      @RahimRahmat 3 года назад

      I wish you didn't say that, cause now I hear huge talks of reboot......

    • @SuperMarry23
      @SuperMarry23 3 года назад

      @@RahimRahmat What is wrong with that

    • @Zoloft77
      @Zoloft77 3 года назад

      @@SuperMarry23 In a channel like the CW, plenty to worry.

    • @everdinestenger1548
      @everdinestenger1548 Год назад +1

      As long as it is not a woke version, look what they did to Lord of the Rings

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 Год назад

      Only wtth a consice detailed 5 year plan overseen by a caring and devoted production team of B5 fanboys and fangirls...

  • @kennethmelnychuk9737
    @kennethmelnychuk9737 3 года назад +2

    Was Delenn a descendant of Valen?

    • @classicalliberal70
      @classicalliberal70 3 года назад +2

      yes

    • @lyncat
      @lyncat 3 года назад +1

      @@classicalliberal70 confirmed in a later episode

  • @robertwlester
    @robertwlester 3 года назад +1

    Do minbari get their beards from human DNA?

  • @fefnireindraer144
    @fefnireindraer144 Год назад +1

    What is funny the whole "Minbari souls being born in human bodies" is completely not true.

    • @tornadoe13
      @tornadoe13 8 месяцев назад

      The whole series is fiction so what's truth and what's not, is in valid.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 4 года назад +4

    How would the Cylons of Battlestar Galactica fair in a war with the Geth from Mass Effect?

  • @johnnykeener3727
    @johnnykeener3727 Год назад

    Talking Girabaldi LOL

  • @ahcokris
    @ahcokris 4 года назад +3

    sloppy clip or just lazy watching of the show? sinclair knew delenn was grey council since a least the soul hunter episode onwards. he treated her as such at all times. sinclair also liked to gather inteligence and was able to gleam that delen was not simply "ambassador", but rather leader of the grey council. the episode of sinclair on minbar was a stagin area. sinclair became ranger one and then left for babylon 4, that he took back into the past while undergoing crysalis, becoming valen. only valen and valen's descendants, that is humans or minbari carrying sinclairs DNA could undergo crysalis. that is why delenn, a distant great grand daughter of sinclair, was able to touch the tirluminary and undergo crysalis.
    after the shadow war a 1000 years ago valen sattled on minbar, became head of the grey council, but knowing he only became minbari, but was not born of a minbari, his children were ostracised. still, in obscurity they survived and endured. after all Delenn was herself dscended from valen/sinclair. again crysalis.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 4 года назад

    How powerful are the Shadows of Babylon 5 compared to the Yuuzhan Vong from the Star Wars Expanded Universe and how powerful are the weapons of their ships and how durable are they?

    • @UtopianBroadcast1
      @UtopianBroadcast1  4 года назад +3

      That would be a good Comparesent

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 4 года назад

      @@UtopianBroadcast1
      Indeed it would.

    • @alexiachimciuc3199
      @alexiachimciuc3199 4 года назад

      Yu-zan-wong, chinese company with the largest share holding at Disney!😜

  • @SkylerLinux
    @SkylerLinux 3 года назад

    Oh dear B-canon clashing with A level canon

  • @michaelhband
    @michaelhband 2 года назад

    👍👍👍❤❤❤

  • @RCTPatriot75
    @RCTPatriot75 3 года назад

    The show did allude to what happened.

  • @kmo9111
    @kmo9111 3 года назад

    RIP DELENN

    • @kennethmelnychuk9737
      @kennethmelnychuk9737 3 года назад

      G’Kar, Vir Coto, Dr. Franklin, Zack Allan, Jeff Sinclair, Micheal Garabaldi

  • @Deevo037
    @Deevo037 3 года назад

    Sorry but Canadian Garabaldi is too annoying.

    • @gungasam3000
      @gungasam3000 3 года назад

      to say the least. So many mispronunciations, and speaking like your sinus is stuffed doesn't help, either.