@@ericreid8111 No, today they released new update in bios which is disabled AMD STAPM. Means no need to re-install drivers and restart to fix power/fps. I updated today my bios, tried and it's fixed this issues.
@protonrecuva6717 Yes, I increased 8700G vram size from default to 4GB VRAM. About overclock and heavy rain, i will think about it. Thanks for the idea.
the 8700g is as can see in your videos only few % faster even when it use 85 watt. it have in spec 50% more shaders as 8600G. maybe faster ram settings can help ?. on AMD page stand it support 5200. when use CL 38 6000 ram it should be able to run CL34 and 5200 . or a gskill trident is 6000 CL30 should run CL27 at 5200 .
here can see in 8700g amd page the specs 2x2R DDR5-5200 4x2R DDR5-3600 mean when you use 4 RAM modules it throttle to DDR 3600 so can reduce CL even more
How far? It's barely matching 1650 performance - the same 1650 that was so bad nvidia launched a super version less than half a year after it's launch. It's slower than the rx 570 from 9 years ago. Again how is this a definition of insane? We should already be at the level of an rx 580/1060 but we're still behind by at least 40%
@@naare-p5g It's still not fast enough. Just look at some of the benchmarks for these igpu's. Everyone has the details set to very low a 1080p just so we can see over 60fps. It's very disingenuous especially after all the hype a few weeks before the launch day. These igpu's are nowhere near the 1060/580 performance levels.
Jeez, with some of the comments i scrolled through, people seemed to miss the point of igpus. This demonstration really showcases how much we have come in having a cpu and gpu put on a single die! The goal was not just gaming. Theres plenty of people out there that would pick this up in a mini pc or a laptop for basic everyday tasks and light workstation. Streaming? This thing would crunch transcoding with no issue. Music production? A fricken cakewalk. Igpu have always been baseline for the casual user and not the moderate to hardcore gamer. It may not be perfect and theres ways to go, this is a really awesome entry level setup before the real big spend of getting another graphics card. Remember igpus memory is always SHARED, gpus are DEDICATED.
It is a cool chip no doubt, but its nearly 3 times the price of an RX6400 and even worse, 6 times or so more expensive than a used GTX 1650 from CEX with a 2 year warranty! It only really makes sense for those with space constraints honestly as even power draw is similar to the budget cards...
@@zabatofiloinvertido9253 The UK. The 8700G has come down in price since my post. At the time the 8700G was £340 and the RX6400 around £135. Now, you can get an 8700G for around £260, so a bit better.
8700G is good only small form factor PC....it doesn't make sense to use it for regular desktop PC. For the same price of 8700G, you can get Ryzen 5 5600 and RX 6600....that has triple the gaming performance.
la RX 6600 8 GB Vale en Argentina 325 USD R7 5700 190 USD - 325 + 190 = 515 USD si quieres jugar todo en Ultra paga la diferencia y el 8700g 330 USD 8 Core 16 hilos , hagan Cuentas y no hablen pavadas , y tengan en cuenta la NPU IA 🙏
So the 8700G igpu uses more power than the 1650/6400 for less frames? I always thought igpus were more power efficient, or maybe I'm misunderstanding the graphs?
It's a little perplexing that the 8700G igpu is drawing almost twice the power of the 6400 yet achieves less frames in almost all the games. It doesn't make sense to me. Someone make it make sense...
@@b.shes.2643 Pretty sure that's not realistic. Same CPU as 8700G, but mobile (Z1 Extreme/7840U) draw at most around 45W total and offer similar if not better performance than the 8700G because of how they have the RAM be soldered LPDDR5 and usually faster too
It's great that igpus have come this far BUT most budget gamers are better off getting something cheap like a current gen i3 and a 6600. That's around the same price of a 8700g in most countries.
Great job bro, videos like this really makes a good buying point for budget gamers like me. keep it up. Nice to have a way of comparing different models and brand before making a sound decision for you chosen build.
Thank you a lot. This is very helpful. What I am asking to me: The 8700G goes with turbo up to 5 Ghz. If I reduce the speeed of the CPU of 4Ghz for example, so it will need about 30W less power. Will the GPU part get more speed or the power consumption will be less.
Maximum VRAM GB winner is 780M (new games) Maximum VRAM Bandwidth winner is 1650 (few games) Minimum POWER consumiption 780M / RX6400 depending on the game Radeon 780M is winner for next generation setups, 4GB ram is not enough and the processing power for the 3 setups are nearly the same.
@@andbotelho 60 watt = CPU 35 watt = IGPU Total 85 watt Meanwhile RX6400 the card alone use 40 - 50 watt, still better than 1650 that using 65 - 75 watt for just 10% faster
@@arx117 yes, iGPU is using only 30-40W and RX gets 40-50W, few difference but iGPU is the winner, the GTX consumes a lot more power. But the point is that for new setups a dGPU low is not needed anymore, AMD launched the RX by lots of requests from people stuck with Rx 550 but they goal is not need to launch anymore a dGPU for low end market.
Na where I'm from, 5700x+rx6600 is still more than 8700G, Well if we put i3 12100f + rx 6600, then half the price 2x or maybe 3x the performance of 8700G.
But you will stuck with AM4 platform, which is a dead-end. Of course you'll still get a good 2-3 years from it but for the next upgrade you'll have to upgrade everything. Sometimes, this extra cost makes sense: you buy 8700G today on a modern platform and add a dedicated GPU later.
@@kkolakowski heh? Paying 300$+ dollars (at the time of video and your post) for a 8700G to replace it a year or two down the road? If you want to get onto the platform you would buy the absolute cheapest chip possible with onboard graphics.
tengo una ryzen 5 2600 y una gtx 1650 en graficos medios me esta corriendo a 80 fps en altos a 60 y en bajo llega hasta los 120 o mas porque en tu test scorre a menos de 60 en bajos? el shadow of the tomb rider.
Depends on your budget, If you can allow your to buy ram speed 7200Mhz with good CL latency like CL36 or 38 or lower CL then 7200Mhz is better for more fps.
@@BravoSixGoingDark Well, for me 6000Mhz CL36 or CL32 is almost close to the GTX 1650 fps/performance. So, I think this should be enough, but I think overclocking cpu/apu will give a bit higher fps which can have chance to get same performance as 1650.
@@ChristoGevedjov Thank you. I guess 6000mhz would be good enough for me. The concern I have is long term ram stability that is putting me off from aggressive overclocking.
Whats the point when ur paying premium for less overall performance u can just skip am5 completetly with am4 Buy 5600+6600xt Then later upgrade to 5800x3d+9600xt Am5 price is joke too much premuim😂
Por qué en un futuro puedo actualizar y yo no juego cyberpunk,GTA 5 o Alan Wake Soy más de Rocket ligue y edición XD Pero creo que le voy a poner una 4070 pero por ahora solo tengo 500 dólares y no me alcanza con eso por eso escogí este procesador para un futuro comprar una mejor gráfica
RTX 3060 12GB o RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, la VRAM es lo más importante y esas son las mejores VRAM/precio de Nvidia. AMD no es tan bueno para el Blender ni nada de Adobe, pero si buscas renderizar más en otros programas, una RX 7600 XT es servicial. Si tienes más presupuesto, una RX 7800 XT se defiende bien contra la RTX 4070 en Blender/Adobe, pero lidiarás con varios bugs. O espera a cualquier tarjeta futura de 16GB o más que salga más adelante en tu presupuesto.
@@SWOgottaGO Las placas veteranas que mencionas superan los 450k, solo con eso, te compras un procesador de última generación, 8 núcleos, APU para correr juegos AAA (HD) y con un consumo abajo de 90 W, frente a los 400 W de esas placas, y ahorras al adquirir una fuente más económica (y en el recibo luz). Disculpame, pero yo le veo todo el sentido a ese procesador, y te hablo como contento usuario de uno.
Its not the same money though. The apu system would cost much less in terms of power consumption over time. The apu is around 100 watt max while the other system at least 250
@@fabino8 I can just slap a GPU to the 8700G system later on if I feel the need to. Perfect replacement for my old i5-4670K & GTX 1070 combo which easily draws 250-300W (CPU 4.5Ghz 1.41V, GPU 2000Mhz@975mV Core undervolt). Even if the 8700G is technically slower than my current combo, it'll draw way less power and will offer me more than acceptable performance
those cards are superior... at least the 580 is plenty. you have uhardware unboxed who used 6500 xt wich performs around the same to a 580 when is using 4.0
performance of this cpus/apus are downgraded on zen3 level because of less cache and performance of igpus are irrelevant because wtf you can play with igpu on level of gtx 1650 or lower in 2024!!? only lowest like here with FSR which will you lowering minimum fps and cause stuters
Realistically you should have a different system for the GTX 1650 and RX 6400 for comparing like using a i7 11700 with the 1650 and a R5 7600 with the 6400.
Ok de entrada empezamos muy mal, como poner las gráficas dedicadas junto al APU, debio compararse con el R7 sin G, muy mal y subjetiva esta comparación
@@sacredabdulla5698 есть более слабые чипы серии MX. Мне на тест попался ноутбук с урезанной до 40w RTX3050. Я провел сравнительные тесты с моей дискреткой RX6400. Так вот 6400 не уступала конкуренту а во многих случаях даже обгоняла. Будет объективно указать параметры на которых я тестил. Комп R5 3600 32 gb 2400 ddr4 RX6400 (pcie4 на b550 материнке) SSD m2 Ноут R5 5625U 8gb 4266 lpddr4x RTX3050 (40w) SSD m2 Пиковое потребление RX6400 составляло 42W. Пиковое потребление RTX3050 несмотря на ограничение поднималось до 53W. Так же замечу что температура в ноутбуке в результате тестов поднималась до 110 на процессоре и до 97 на видеочипе. Ноутбук новый незапылен.
@@ChristoGevedjov They will have to. Nobody will buy them. It is not for an ordinary PC, since there are certainly fewer PCI lines, especially for graphics - PCE 3 x 8. So, any upgrade of the PC will be quite depleted, and the L3 cache itself will suffer. I am saying this even if the price is competitive. You are buying a CPU which you will have to change later. It's not a mini PC for me, since there are much smaller PCs that, with e.g. The R7 7840U has the same/very similar graphics power and costs less. I see only a very small number of uninformed who will accidentally take them. So the price will have to go down.
overall this apu are shit for this price !! (preety) slower from lowest end cards which was already slow and we must know that rx 580 are faster card then both of this and 7 year old
it use at max power but igpu on this apu use 105-11o watts too in hard gaming but it gives significantly less fps too !! if you want less gpu consumption then just buy stupid gtx 1650 or rx 6400 which consume same or less then this igpu while again on average gives more fps or same if you play on lowest but more at medium or high @@arx117
point of story are that you will not back newer money with less consumption of this IGPU over 580 or maybe for 15-20 years if you gaming 5-6 hours every day for 365 days per year and again rx 580 are still fine to push even most of modern games on 1080p on medium and high even ultra with 30-40+ fps without fsr or FG and with them much better then and this igpu will have maybe 15fps @@arx117
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System Info: 0:00 ( 8700G: 0:00 / GTX 1650: 0:26 / RX 6400: 0:50 )
8700G in BIOS - APU INFO/Settings: 1:15
Alan Wake 2: 2:05
Assassin's Creed Mirage + FSR: 3:06
Assassin's Creed Mirage - Native Resolution: 3:58
Call of Duty MW2: 4:42 ( Results = R7 8700G: 5:49 / GTX 1650: 5:57 / RX 6400: 6:06 )
Cyberpunk 2077 + FSR: 6:17
Cyberpunk 2077 - Native Resolution: 7:15
Forza Horizon 5: 8:03 ( Results = R7 8700G: 9:48 / GTX 1650: 9:57 / RX 6400: 10:08 )
GTA V: 10:21
Rainbow Six Siege: 11:18 ( Results = R7 8700G: 12:40 / GTX 1650: 12:57 / RX 6400: 13:15 )
Red Dead Redemption 2: 13:30
Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 15:32 ( Results = R7 8700G: 17:02 / GTX 1650: 17:12 / RX 6400: 17:26 )
Starfield: 17:42
The Last of Us Part 1: 18:35
The Witcher 3 Next-Gen: 20:05
End: 21:18
So does this mean if i bought an 8700g, i should download and reinstall its drivers?
@@ericreid8111 No, today they released new update in bios which is disabled AMD STAPM. Means no need to re-install drivers and restart to fix power/fps. I updated today my bios, tried and it's fixed this issues.
@protonrecuva6717 Yes, I increased 8700G vram size from default to 4GB VRAM. About overclock and heavy rain, i will think about it. Thanks for the idea.
the 8700g is as can see in your videos only few % faster even when it use 85 watt. it have in spec 50% more shaders as 8600G. maybe faster ram settings can help ?. on AMD page stand it support 5200. when use CL 38 6000 ram it should be able to run CL34 and 5200 . or a gskill trident is 6000 CL30 should run CL27 at 5200 .
here can see in 8700g amd page the specs
2x2R DDR5-5200
4x2R DDR5-3600
mean when you use 4 RAM modules it throttle to DDR 3600 so can reduce CL even more
Insane how far iGPU have come, great video!
But the price of that thing. 😢😢
How far? It's barely matching 1650 performance - the same 1650 that was so bad nvidia launched a super version less than half a year after it's launch. It's slower than the rx 570 from 9 years ago. Again how is this a definition of insane? We should already be at the level of an rx 580/1060 but we're still behind by at least 40%
@@mesicek7this iGPU have rdna 3 arhitecture
Is more advanced than CGN 4.0 rx 580 and gtx 1060 pascal
@@naare-p5g It's still not fast enough. Just look at some of the benchmarks for these igpu's. Everyone has the details set to very low a 1080p just so we can see over 60fps. It's very disingenuous especially after all the hype a few weeks before the launch day. These igpu's are nowhere near the 1060/580 performance levels.
@@mesicek7 do you noted that is a IGPU and not dGPU?
I upgraded from Ryzen 1600 directly to 5600, on the same motherboard with one BIOS update. AM4 is amazing
I know, right?
That is basically my logic on 8600G on the new AM5. The future is exiting to wait for.
Amazing benchmark as always, thank you for posting these kinds of videos.
Jeez, with some of the comments i scrolled through, people seemed to miss the point of igpus. This demonstration really showcases how much we have come in having a cpu and gpu put on a single die! The goal was not just gaming. Theres plenty of people out there that would pick this up in a mini pc or a laptop for basic everyday tasks and light workstation. Streaming? This thing would crunch transcoding with no issue. Music production? A fricken cakewalk. Igpu have always been baseline for the casual user and not the moderate to hardcore gamer. It may not be perfect and theres ways to go, this is a really awesome entry level setup before the real big spend of getting another graphics card.
Remember igpus memory is always SHARED, gpus are DEDICATED.
It is a cool chip no doubt, but its nearly 3 times the price of an RX6400 and even worse, 6 times or so more expensive than a used GTX 1650 from CEX with a 2 year warranty! It only really makes sense for those with space constraints honestly as even power draw is similar to the budget cards...
@leerobinson8709 isn't the igpu power shared between cpu and ipgu though??
@@hsssbjejew764 it is but if you look at a lot of the results the RX6400 + cpu power draw is similar or less than the APU but with better performance.
@@leerobinson8709 en que país Vives , los Cálculos que haces no dan ni a palos 😂🤣
@@zabatofiloinvertido9253 The UK. The 8700G has come down in price since my post. At the time the 8700G was £340 and the RX6400 around £135. Now, you can get an 8700G for around £260, so a bit better.
8700G is good only small form factor PC....it doesn't make sense to use it for regular desktop PC. For the same price of 8700G, you can get Ryzen 5 5600 and RX 6600....that has triple the gaming performance.
its very low powered though 90w, id use it for 'entertainment' pc to watch youtube etc instead of full gaming pc
and w 1650 level graphic power it basically can game anything too
la RX 6600 8 GB Vale en Argentina 325 USD R7 5700 190 USD - 325 + 190 = 515 USD si quieres jugar todo en Ultra paga la diferencia y el 8700g 330 USD 8 Core 16 hilos , hagan Cuentas y no hablen pavadas , y tengan en cuenta la NPU IA 🙏
1. there not the same price
2. 8700g has 8c/16t
3. 8700g ddr5
the 8600g is going for 170 right now while the rx6600 cost more than that
So the 8700G igpu uses more power than the 1650/6400 for less frames? I always thought igpus were more power efficient, or maybe I'm misunderstanding the graphs?
Maybe this time not. I'm not sure if the power draw for both igpu amd cpu is mixed because you can see its not that far.
It's a little perplexing that the 8700G igpu is drawing almost twice the power of the 6400 yet achieves less frames in almost all the games. It doesn't make sense to me. Someone make it make sense...
Yes, I think the cpu/igpu is shared not separate otherwise that would be mind boggling.
@@b.shes.2643 Pretty sure that's not realistic. Same CPU as 8700G, but mobile (Z1 Extreme/7840U) draw at most around 45W total and offer similar if not better performance than the 8700G because of how they have the RAM be soldered LPDDR5 and usually faster too
@@MrBluePoochyena 8700g can get faster power draw and faster memory. 8700g will still perform better.
It's great that igpus have come this far BUT most budget gamers are better off getting something cheap like a current gen i3 and a 6600. That's around the same price of a 8700g in most countries.
Great comparison, thanks a lot.
Rx 6400 is great, gives same performance for half power consumption compared to 1650
Over time, with new driver updates, in a few years the Radeon 780m, will match the gtx 1650 super.
"in a few years" lol! great strategy for throwing away money.
and more importantly, the higher ddr5 ram frequency and lower timing kits that will come out
In your dreams😂
@ no gtx 1650 users are harmed 🤡
@@JOHNTECH112 Tell that to my 4080👌
The 8700g mobo combo costs like 30% more than a good ddr4 hexacore+mobo+rx6400 combo in my country.
And its upgrade path is dead. AM5 system is still active and upgradeable.
@@dalehammers4425 yes, yes. Sorry, should have clarified: Budget and one slot are mandatory and absolute.
Bro tell me, why r u sooooo awesome????? everyday u r giving amazing benchmark videos !!!!!
Great job bro, videos like this really makes a good buying point for budget gamers like me. keep it up. Nice to have a way of comparing different models and brand before making a sound decision for you chosen build.
Thank you a lot. This is very helpful.
What I am asking to me: The 8700G goes with turbo up to 5 Ghz. If I reduce the speeed of the CPU of 4Ghz for example, so it will need about 30W less power. Will the GPU part get more speed or the power consumption will be less.
It will perform roughly the same, maybe slightly worse.
Yes. A website made the Benchmark. Its 14% slower with 28W instead of88W@@guyza123
Este video lo necesitaba para una configuracion que tendr futura, Muchas gracias
Great work
Rx 6400....a great video card!
Maximum VRAM GB winner is 780M (new games)
Maximum VRAM Bandwidth winner is 1650 (few games)
Minimum POWER consumiption 780M / RX6400 depending on the game
Radeon 780M is winner for next generation setups, 4GB ram is not enough and the processing power for the 3 setups are nearly the same.
RX 6xxx show the power consumption of the chip only, not the whole PCB.
@@justsong-h1p so the 780M is the winner on power
@@andbotelho
60 watt = CPU
35 watt = IGPU
Total 85 watt
Meanwhile RX6400 the card alone use 40 - 50 watt, still better than 1650 that using 65 - 75 watt for just 10% faster
@@arx117 yes, iGPU is using only 30-40W and RX gets 40-50W, few difference but iGPU is the winner, the GTX consumes a lot more power. But the point is that for new setups a dGPU low is not needed anymore, AMD launched the RX by lots of requests from people stuck with Rx 550 but they goal is not need to launch anymore a dGPU for low end market.
Its a nice all rounder CPU. Seems it performs better then a gtx 1050TI,
CPU itself a bit slower then an AMD r7 7700 tho.
What a legend, thank you!
16 Rops? TPU in their site says 32. "768 / 48 / 32"
Excellent score comparison target.
8700G price = 5700x + RX6600
Of course the RX6600 even performs far above the 1650 Super ~
🤣🤣
with almost the same power consumption 🗿
Na where I'm from, 5700x+rx6600 is still more than 8700G, Well if we put i3 12100f + rx 6600, then half the price 2x or maybe 3x the performance of 8700G.
But you will stuck with AM4 platform, which is a dead-end. Of course you'll still get a good 2-3 years from it but for the next upgrade you'll have to upgrade everything. Sometimes, this extra cost makes sense: you buy 8700G today on a modern platform and add a dedicated GPU later.
@@kkolakowski heh? Paying 300$+ dollars (at the time of video and your post) for a 8700G to replace it a year or two down the road? If you want to get onto the platform you would buy the absolute cheapest chip possible with onboard graphics.
tengo una ryzen 5 2600 y una gtx 1650 en graficos medios me esta corriendo a 80 fps en altos a 60 y en bajo llega hasta los 120 o mas porque en tu test scorre a menos de 60 en bajos? el shadow of the tomb rider.
What resolution
@@joseanrodriguez2005 1080p
tenes un monitor de cuantos hz?
@@ezecskornfan 144hz
Nice video❤.pls 8600g vs 1050ti😊
ETA Prime say it is okay to get rams above 6000mhz, he say 7200mhz ram speeds are okay to use. What are your thoughts?
Depends on your budget, If you can allow your to buy ram speed 7200Mhz with good CL latency like CL36 or 38 or lower CL then 7200Mhz is better for more fps.
@@ChristoGevedjov I see, in your view the standard 6000mhz speed should be good enough for a close perf to the GTX 1060 / GTX 1650?
@@BravoSixGoingDark Well, for me 6000Mhz CL36 or CL32 is almost close to the GTX 1650 fps/performance. So, I think this should be enough, but I think overclocking cpu/apu will give a bit higher fps which can have chance to get same performance as 1650.
@@ChristoGevedjov Thank you. I guess 6000mhz would be good enough for me. The concern I have is long term ram stability that is putting me off from aggressive overclocking.
AMD Said 6000 MHZ is sweetspot for their ZEN 4, meanwhile Intel Said their gen 13/14 sweetspot is 6400 MHZ.
Whats the point when ur paying premium for less overall performance u can just skip am5 completetly with am4
Buy 5600+6600xt
Then later upgrade to
5800x3d+9600xt
Am5 price is joke too much premuim😂
Cyberpunk 2077 Lows:
GTX 1650
1% Low -- 43 fps
8700G
1% Low -- 26 fps
the GTX 1650 is 65% faster
Que tarjeta gráfica le pondria si es para trabajos de render
Para que le vas a poner una tarjeta grafica si ya viene con una? Una R5 5600 con una RX 6600 is muy superior al 8700g por el mismo dinero.
Por qué en un futuro puedo actualizar y yo no juego cyberpunk,GTA 5 o Alan Wake
Soy más de Rocket ligue y edición XD
Pero creo que le voy a poner una 4070 pero por ahora solo tengo 500 dólares y no me alcanza con eso por eso escogí este procesador para un futuro comprar una mejor gráfica
@@astonantuanavila El R5 5600 y la RX 6600 son muy superior al 8700g por el mismo dinero. El 8700G no tiene sentido ninguno.
RTX 3060 12GB o RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, la VRAM es lo más importante y esas son las mejores VRAM/precio de Nvidia.
AMD no es tan bueno para el Blender ni nada de Adobe, pero si buscas renderizar más en otros programas, una RX 7600 XT es servicial. Si tienes más presupuesto, una RX 7800 XT se defiende bien contra la RTX 4070 en Blender/Adobe, pero lidiarás con varios bugs.
O espera a cualquier tarjeta futura de 16GB o más que salga más adelante en tu presupuesto.
@@SWOgottaGO Las placas veteranas que mencionas superan los 450k, solo con eso, te compras un procesador de última generación, 8 núcleos, APU para correr juegos AAA (HD) y con un consumo abajo de 90 W, frente a los 400 W de esas placas, y ahorras al adquirir una fuente más económica (y en el recibo luz).
Disculpame, pero yo le veo todo el sentido a ese procesador, y te hablo como contento usuario de uno.
まだお高いDDR5-6000を32GB積んでこの結果だから、普及価格帯のDDR5-5600使ったり16GB環境だったりするともう少し落ちるだろうね。
8700GとDDR5-6000の価格を考えると内臓グラフィックで安く済ませるの無理になるし、やっぱ安定感では安価グラボでも有った方が良くなるな。
特にRX6400が消費電力を考えても素晴らしい。
日本だと6500XTとの価格差が小さすぎてRX6400買う価値がLP以外に無くなっている事が多いけど、常に変動しているので安けりゃRX6400良いね。
cpu and igpu together have a consumption of 87 w, which insane
see why I asked for starfield...damn heavy game hahahahah I think only Alan wake is heavier because of the shaders thing. Thanks very much
i like yugi rtx i won more
Alan wake use real time ray tracing which is why make it heavy
@@arx117 that is not why...it is heavier even when u do not use ray tracing
@@carlosmagnomacieira8210 really? Maybe my PC is too capable because i can play it at 70FPS without ray tracing
@@arx117 yeah, you are probably from a rich family
DDR56000 @ 3000MHz ?
the 6400 was on a pcie gen 4 or gen 3? thats a big difference for that gpu
On gen 4.
Using 8700g for rendering is gonna have the same rendering performance as gtx 1650?
no not exactly...Nvidia tends to work better than Radeon graphical drivers.
I have an Intel i5 12400F and a msi b760m bomber wifi motherboard. Can I buy gtx 1650 gigabyte 4gb for this combo?
Yes, you can.
my 5700g uses 55 watts at max settings with only igpu. 30 watts at 1440p ultra settings. 8700g= 90 watts, nty.
wtf RX6400 consume only half of total wattage of GTX 1650
whassup bro
how can you record in amd rx 6400?
Wasup, recoded with game capture card on second pc.
Okay, okay, okay, I'm convinced, I'll take the 8600g. =0)
Bro! can you please test this with AMD fluid motion frames?
it will be much better if you overclock your RAM up to 7600. The difference can reach 10% for 780m
Nice APU but at the price it would cost to build out a APU build you could get 12100F and RX 6600 maybe even RTX 4060 for the same money
Really?
Its not the same money though. The apu system would cost much less in terms of power consumption over time. The apu is around 100 watt max while the other system at least 250
@@Julian-mu3yv for that price you will get more than just an i3 12100F !!
even the 5600+ XFX RX6600 is cheaper than the 8700G CPU.
🤣🤣
@@fabino8 It isnt few. It is 150 watt while gaming. In a years time this can be significant.
@@fabino8 I can just slap a GPU to the 8700G system later on if I feel the need to. Perfect replacement for my old i5-4670K & GTX 1070 combo which easily draws 250-300W (CPU 4.5Ghz 1.41V, GPU 2000Mhz@975mV Core undervolt). Even if the 8700G is technically slower than my current combo, it'll draw way less power and will offer me more than acceptable performance
Why didn't you use the faster memory for the ryzen systems? It's already been proven and shown that 6400mhz has better performance for the 8700g.
My budget can't allow to buy much faster ram speed... Sorry!
Pretty cool igpu, but its locked behind an expensive cpu.
Hello. Gtx1650 gddr6 or 5?
gddr6
All GPU cards since 2016 used GDDR6. Next year we will get GDDR7
8700G is a beast but $300? 🤢 This APU can easily get killed by 7500F + 6600 with similar price and has dedicated GPU!
I'm sure after months will drop a lot price. Yeah, you're right.
Mükemmel ilerleyen zamanlarda AMD belkide orta seviye ekran kartları kadar iyi apu işlemciler çıkartıcak
bro please compare 8700g with rx 580 or rx 570.
Are you serious, this APU is similar to RX 6400 which is slower than RX 570
those cards are superior... at least the 580 is plenty. you have uhardware unboxed who used 6500 xt wich performs around the same to a 580 when is using 4.0
The apu will be perfect for the next steam deck
Bro please test on Dota 2 because im Planning to Buy it
It's a perfect APU for esports games
Radeon 780M rivaliza com a RX6400.
Impressionante.
Uma Radeon 980M talvez brigue com uma RX6600
Pls compare 8600g vs gtx1650
1650 win
Thats not a APU its. GPU with a integrated CPU
ojo q ahora salieron las strix q son 3.5 y mejoran mucho las igpu en notebooks y mini pcs seran mejor q una 1650
🤣 el Alan Wake 2 a 960x540p configurado todo al mínimo y no llega a 50fps
780M overclocked vs GTX 1650 overclocked
Bro rx 6400 only eats 40w
Con un buen overclok seguro rinde un 10% más
@@cristhianjoelbruna8384 ?? english ??
So finally 780m really is 6400
Hopefully radeon 880m 16cu can beat 6500xt😂
That's not how it's works. AapU always need RAM speed to make it faster.
1650 D6 ? not D5 old one.
Yes, it's D6 version.
5700g vs 8700g?
8600g 👑
+ 80%
performance of this cpus/apus are downgraded on zen3 level because of less cache and performance of igpus are irrelevant because wtf you can play with igpu on level of gtx 1650 or lower in 2024!!? only lowest like here with FSR which will you lowering minimum fps and cause stuters
i3 12100f + rx 6400 jauh lebih bagus dan lebih murah daripada 8700g 😐
Power consumption is high for Ryzen 7 8700G.
Realistically you should have a different system for the GTX 1650 and RX 6400 for comparing like using a i7 11700 with the 1650 and a R5 7600 with the 6400.
overprice for ryzen 7 8700G, better amd ryzen 5 7500 match with gtx 1660 Ti for compare price to performance
i5 4590 + rx 570 is cheaper and performs better than this igpu
Yes and no. Rx 570 better, but under cpu intensive game, not run better.
Radeon 780m=ps4???
R7 price sucks.. not budget at all, lol -.-"
Esse processador e o melhor gráficos integrado
with 32gb of ram in there you can dedicate 8gb of vram to the gpu easily.
Pareciera que los juegos más modernos van mejor en la GPU y en los juegos más viejos van mejor en la 1650, no les parece eso curioso 🤔🧐
Ok de entrada empezamos muy mal, como poner las gráficas dedicadas junto al APU, debio compararse con el R7 sin G, muy mal y subjetiva esta comparación
Почему при таком низком энергопотреблении rx6400 ее не ставят в ноутбуки?
может низкая произв. для дискретного чипа
@@sacredabdulla5698 есть более слабые чипы серии MX.
Мне на тест попался ноутбук с урезанной до 40w RTX3050. Я провел сравнительные тесты с моей дискреткой RX6400. Так вот 6400 не уступала конкуренту а во многих случаях даже обгоняла.
Будет объективно указать параметры на которых я тестил.
Комп
R5 3600
32 gb 2400 ddr4
RX6400 (pcie4 на b550 материнке)
SSD m2
Ноут
R5 5625U
8gb 4266 lpddr4x
RTX3050 (40w)
SSD m2
Пиковое потребление RX6400 составляло 42W. Пиковое потребление RTX3050 несмотря на ограничение поднималось до 53W.
Так же замечу что температура в ноутбуке в результате тестов поднималась до 110 на процессоре и до 97 на видеочипе. Ноутбук новый незапылен.
8700g is more efficient in electricity
5:46
1650 was a scam gpu
Why?
Wait till amd releases its 40cu apu 😭😭😭😭
8700G must be 200$ max
I'm sure they will drop price a lot after 4-6 months.
@@ChristoGevedjov They will have to. Nobody will buy them. It is not for an ordinary PC, since there are certainly fewer PCI lines, especially for graphics - PCE 3 x 8. So, any upgrade of the PC will be quite depleted, and the L3 cache itself will suffer. I am saying this even if the price is competitive. You are buying a CPU which you will have to change later. It's not a mini PC for me, since there are much smaller PCs that, with e.g. The R7 7840U has the same/very similar graphics power and costs less.
I see only a very small number of uninformed who will accidentally take them. So the price will have to go down.
Mi gtx 1660ti aun aguanta
Ryzen 7 8700G = Xbox Series S
No, series S gpu has 20CU and much faster Gddr6 memory, i would say the 780M igpu is around 70% the performance of the series s
mini pc with igp wetdream
rx6400 is great even lower power.
780m 3x faster, but where is this performance?
Do igpu vs rx 580
overall this apu are shit for this price !! (preety) slower from lowest end cards which was already slow and we must know that rx 580 are faster card then both of this and 7 year old
RX 580 use 175 watt. So for people who concern about energy consumption, APU with FSR is a must
it use at max power but igpu on this apu use 105-11o watts too in hard gaming but it gives significantly less fps too !! if you want less gpu consumption then just buy stupid gtx 1650 or rx 6400 which consume same or less then this igpu while again on average gives more fps or same if you play on lowest but more at medium or high @@arx117
point of story are that you will not back newer money with less consumption of this IGPU over 580 or maybe for 15-20 years if you gaming 5-6 hours every day for 365 days per year and again rx 580 are still fine to push even most of modern games on 1080p on medium and high even ultra with 30-40+ fps without fsr or FG and with them much better then and this igpu will have maybe 15fps @@arx117
for peoples who are concern about energy they would not spend then tons of money on verpriced 8700G and AM5 platform @@arx117
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You still haven't improved your English one bit.
gtx1650 nice best
Then ur processor's i-gpu is better than most of the external gpu's 💀💀
Keep going forward AMD
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