I ordered this for my boyfriends birthday and just waiting delivery any day now. He has wanted and loved this watch for along time now. The more I read and discover, I am more thinking it would be a wonderful watch for myself! So many ladies dress watches about but they don't have this unique look of simplistic beauty. I might be borrowing this off him in the future!
Thanks, always enjoy your reviews. One thing I appreciate is the slow look over all the angles of the watch, side profile, back etc. Some reviewers do the bare minimum and you just look at the front of the watch the whole time.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I have a lot to learn about editing and angles and such, but it's encouraging to know that I'm on the right track! Thanks for watching and commenting
Incredible watch, I did not know this model. I'm waiting for the PRS25 Expedition to be back in stock, with a cream dial, but I really liked this one. a greeting
Very well done review. Efficient and thorough. Enjoyed your presentation. Mine is scheduled to arrive in two days and I'm certainly looking forward to having it on wrist. Great value for a remarkable watch.
I was so excited to see this review because I received my Explorer Expedition yesterday, and absolutely love it. I debated between the one I got and the black Explorer you reviewed here. You really can’t go wrong either way, and it sounds like you have both! 😃
As owner of 3 Timefactors' watches, I am really impressed on the craftsmanship and value. However, at the same time I am also puzzled that there are always some thing very wrong in each of the design that to the extent it is so obviously and makes one thinking Eddie deliberately sabotage a design almost perfect, such as, the minutes hand is too long or sometimes not long enough, or hour hand is too narrow, or put a highly polished bezel on a brushed case, or in this case minute hand is too prominent. Or maybe I am a nut case.
Yes, i agree to an extent. The flaws you mention have been scrutinised by hundreds if not thousands of people on the forums. I imagine that Eddie, as a one man band doesn't necessarily have the benefit of all those eyes before green lighting a design which leads to these oddities. Or its a parts issue: "we have these hands, which one do you want". Who knows? I doubt it's deliberate sabotage though. Would i prefer the minute hand to be a tad shorter? Yes. It's it a deal breaker as is? No. Thanks for your considered comment.
I'm just waiting for mine to turn up 😁. I had the opportunity of buying a 1016 about 7 years ago and like an idiot I declined , the prices nowadays are too insane for me to consider one again without selling off 3 or 4 watches from the collection which I don't think I could bring myself to do at present. This Everest will scratch that itch for a while I'm hoping , unless I love it so much that the 1016 quest begins again!!!
Ahh, missed opportunity. Still, i think the PR25 will definitely scratch that itch, it's a great little watch. And a lot less fragile than a 1016. I can't imagine dropping 10+k on a 1016 and using it as an every day watch. I'm not interested in safe queens, but a 1016 would have to be. The Smith's is something you can actually enjoy every day. Wear your new watch in good health
That's an interesting idea! I really like the dial layout and the red hand but the color is too creamy for me. A bit bolder red (looks rosy in the pics online) would also help?
Thanks for sharing this unboxing video. Besides the logo, the proportion of the hands is better than previous versions. Do you think it’s fair to call this the Timefactors Explorer, when Smiths Everest by Timefactors is how it’s sold? I know it’s a homage, but it is deserving of its own recognition.
Hands were improved with v2, i don't know that there have been further revisions with v3, I'll check. And yes it's a Smiths Everest which is an Explorer homage.
WT MS The minute hand looks like it was shortened, but still not quite enough I think. If you compare it with a Rolex Explorer the Everest minute hand is still too deep into the minute track.
I'll check the revisions for the full review, and include some comparisons. I think the hour hand was lengthened for v2. The minute hand is very close to the rehaut, it can't have been much longer. But i agree it would be better if it just met the minute track
Looks like the tip of minute hand barely gets into the minute track. It doesn’t seem to bother me from the photos, although I agree with your assessment. What does trip my OCD is the width difference between the minute hand and the base of the hour hand. Amazing watch, that only one thing jumps out. The faint “EVEREST” is apparently now on par with the boldness of the Smiths logo, which I prefer, going by pics on the website.
I know what you mean about the minute and hour hands. It's something you notice on wrist, but it's not terrible, it doesn't bother me. Not like the over long hour hand on the Air Ministry!! Thanks for watching and commenting
Now this would be the ideal watch for me if only it was fitted with the Seiko "Mecaquartz" movement. I cannot see the attraction of mechanical movements especially the automatic versions...
Same here.. but i think that takes away the fun a little. I wanna spend the money, i like it, but you have to be like a group of dogs preying on one piece of meat to get what you want. Why not have a timeframe where you can pre order and then he makes the order to the factory. Win win in my book. Hope you will have a good wedding congrats.
It is always Sunday at 14.00 UK time. If you sign up to the newsletter on the website you'll get notified of the next opening. It has been as brief as 10 minutes in the past though, so you have to be quick!! It's us worth the effort though, they are stunning watches, especially for the money
@@WTMS1 thanks for the reply. Signed up for the newsletter. Looking at some of there offerings I'm surprised they are not more videos on them. I'm after the Smith's PRS 29 and 36, hopefully I'll drop on them, fingers crossed. The Sewills ark royal looks amazing (with black strap) but doubt that will pop up again.
Still in love! It's a fantastic watch. People in the comments like to pick out minor flaws, which may be valid, but this is one of those watches that it greater than the sum of its parts. The main negative for me is that the clasp picks up quite a lot of desk driving marks, but it's a very minor complaint. Planning a 4 way comparison soon, so I'll go over pros/cons of longer term ownership. Thanks for watching and commenting. It is greatly appreciated
WT MS, I've watched several of your vids a number of times and it's a shame you didn't get 1k subs yet. 82 comments and only 958 subs. I don't get it. So dear watch community friends add those 42 subs, please. However, since there have been no uploads in the last two months I hope everything is fine. Cheers!
Hi and thanks for the comment. Creating content is a hobby for me, and a very hectic work load recently hasn't left me time to make me any new vids. I do have a couple of interesting new pieces though, so I'm hoping to find time soon. RUclips is hard to figure out as a creator. Done vids get lots of views but hardly any subs. Sometimes the other way around. Still, I do it because I love watches. If people like my content enough to sub that's a bonus. Thanks again for your kind words
Enjoy your new watch. Yes, the travel case is so so. But it means the watch arrives safely, so for what i want it serves its purpose. I can't see using it otherwise. I think he used to ship a double carry case which might be more useful
@@WTMS1 Thanks. Yeap, the watch is the real deal. Whatever you say about Rolex they always had the best, simple, perfectly balanced, toolish design over there. The number of homages says it all. No other brand was coppied, quoted or inspiring like Rolex.
You are right, but yet it is arguable that even Rolex have been 'inspired' by others. The 50 Fathoms came before the submariner. As hinted at in this video, my Rolex ownership experience left me cold. I enjoy these affordable pieces much more.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, they are beautiful watches. Best advice is to sign up for the TF newsletter, Eddie sends updates about stock and store opening. There is always the used market, but you'll pay a premium. Cheers
Sign up to the news letter at Timefactors. Eddie sends out updates with stock and store opening details. The store opens at 14.00 UK time and you gotta be quick. Posts on the forum suggest these sold out in about 15 minutes. But there will be more. Otherwise eBay, but one of the reasons these are such a good value proposition is that the used prices are higher
I have one of the earlier versions. I like this new version but the only thing that stands out to me as a negative is the width of the minute hand which looks too wide but this might not be as obvious in the metal.
WT MS Yes these are very minor details. I don’t mind the old Smiths logo but your vintage one looks great. Your hour hand is longer and an improvement over mine I think. Maybe I will find my perfect version with a MK4 😀
The only thing that I feel also needs an update, that crown. If timefactors had done a more Rolex style crown instead of this barrel shaped obtrusion, I feel the watch would be perfect and look leagues better. That straight walled barrel shape of the crown looks uninspired, ugly and is not great to grip. However the Rolex style that is a bit shorter, slightly bigger in circumference and has a chamfered inner and outer edge, leaves a nice ring of traction to grip and protrudes off the case to a lesser degree.
I know what you mean about the crown, and i agree that a big crowd version would be interesting. But there is so much to like about this watch that you can forgive small imperfections. Thanks for watching and commenting
Smiths watches are nothing more than a watch made 100% in china with chinese generic parts. This is what you are buying if you go ahead. Why a Rolex homage? because the chinese have been making rolex copies for decades - there is plenty of factories producing them and it is easy and cheaper to assemble a watch using cases and bracelets that are a plain copy of a rolex. What are you getting extra from Smiths that justify the extra payment in opposition to the Rolex copies/hommages available at Aliexpress/ebay/alibaba for less than 100usd? Very little, but in summary the next: - Packaging: Smiths delivers the watch in an extremely cheap packaging - u can appreciate this in the video - Quality of the case and bracelet: the same as the ones sold at Aliexpress for less than 100usd. - Watch glass: Smiths offers sapphire but the ones from Aliexpress too - no improvement here. - Movement: Smiths offers a Miyota 9015 movement (btw a good movement), the ones at Aliexpress tend to offer the next options Miyota 8215, Seiko NH36, seagull ST16 or a generic chinese 2813 (The last one being the worst option - but is also fitted into the very cheapest watches, at around 50usd). - Dial and hands: Smiths comes with a simple printed dial - this is the cheapest way to produce a dial - and very generic rolex hands. Some of the other chinese copies come with dials with applied markers - this is more expensive yet those watches are sold for far less than Smiths. - Customer service: Chinese sellers are not known for providing a good customer service, but here is the key, Aliexpress intercedes between you and the seller and if you have a complain or receive a damage/defective product... you are likely to receive a full or partial refund. In the case of Smiths watches.... you just need to check out this video and will understand the type of person behind Smiths and what he delivers as a "customer service". ruclips.net/video/UfN4TLjsXPg/видео.html&lc=Ugw3F88zhYe8PNzz2Oh4AaABAg.9I09Cu91HeE9I3ejLKxCVy The last topic is brand heritage: Once a brand becomes abandoned by the owners - and this was the case of Smiths watches... Anybody can register and own the name by registering it again to himself --- this is the case of Smiths and many other brands (Ball watches, etc...). Timefactors has been importing batches of chinese watches and re-selling them to european customers since 1996... At some point the guy owning Timefactors realized he could re-register abandoned historical brands and he has done it several times... check Timefactors offerings, he not only offers Smiths but also other less known historical brands he has registered again---- the difference between the different brands he sells? only the brand logo he is requesting the chinese manufacturer to print on the dial. ----------- MAKE up your mind if you consider this kind of "heritage" deserves any additional value or payment.
This guy^^^^ must not know that ALL the Swiss brands contain parts made in Asia, every single brand, bar none. He is paying the SwissMade Tax for his watches. At least Timefactors is honest about it
@@yankeexpress Honesty on taking a chinese copy of a Rolex and slapping on it the brand name from a defunct company? It reminds me the typical guy in a psychiatric hospital saying that he is Napoleon Bonaparte. I want to smoke the same as you man. Anyhow, keep using your chinese rolex knock-off and beleive that those watches made in china were the ones that climbed the everest first - dont let the other people beleive you are a moron.
I ordered this for my boyfriends birthday and just waiting delivery any day now. He has wanted and loved this watch for along time now. The more I read and discover, I am more thinking it would be a wonderful watch for myself! So many ladies dress watches about but they don't have this unique look of simplistic beauty. I might be borrowing this off him in the future!
What a great gift, I'm sure he's going to love it. And yes, i think all of the 36mm timefactors watches would be good for girls as much as guys.
WT MS definitely agree! Although I've got away with borrowing T-shirt's and jumpers I'm not sure if borrowing the watch is going to be a step too far🤣
If he's happy to share he's a keeper!!
Love the new logo. It's much more fitting than the bold text. I'm going to pull the trigger on this as soon as I get the chance
I think it's been a highly requested revision, and yes, i love the Deluxe logo too. Thanks for watching and commenting
Got mine yesterday, not sure why I am watching an unboxing video as its on my wrist but cant help it!
You got me laughing out loud bro.. enjoy you new watch!!
Thanks, always enjoy your reviews. One thing I appreciate is the slow look over all the angles of the watch, side profile, back etc. Some reviewers do the bare minimum and you just look at the front of the watch the whole time.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I have a lot to learn about editing and angles and such, but it's encouraging to know that I'm on the right track! Thanks for watching and commenting
This is a marvelous revival British design Japanese powered dream combination.
It's a lovely watch. Stands up on it's own right.
It certainly does. I'm wearing mine now and love it.
Thanks for watching and commenting
After almost 5 weeks wait, the watch arrived yesterday. Awesome x2 timepiece.
Congrats. Enjoy your new watch
Incredible watch, I did not know this model. I'm waiting for the PRS25 Expedition to be back in stock, with a cream dial, but I really liked this one. a greeting
I have both, and i think you will enjoy either one. They are both fantastic watches
Looks good. I'm (im)patiently awaiting shipment notification for mine.
Good luck. It's worth the wait. I hope you ordered before 14.15, i think these sold out fast
Very well done review. Efficient and thorough. Enjoyed your presentation. Mine is scheduled to arrive in two days and I'm certainly looking forward to having it on wrist. Great value for a remarkable watch.
Thanks for the positive feedback. Enjoy your new watch
I was so excited to see this review because I received my Explorer Expedition yesterday, and absolutely love it. I debated between the one I got and the black Explorer you reviewed here. You really can’t go wrong either way, and it sounds like you have both! 😃
I have 4!! Check out my triple unboxing video from a couple of months ago. But yes, both great watches and plenty of room for both in my collection.
As owner of 3 Timefactors' watches, I am really impressed on the craftsmanship and value. However, at the same time I am also puzzled that there are always some thing very wrong in each of the design that to the extent it is so obviously and makes one thinking Eddie deliberately sabotage a design almost perfect, such as, the minutes hand is too long or sometimes not long enough, or hour hand is too narrow, or put a highly polished bezel on a brushed case, or in this case minute hand is too prominent. Or maybe I am a nut case.
Yes, i agree to an extent. The flaws you mention have been scrutinised by hundreds if not thousands of people on the forums. I imagine that Eddie, as a one man band doesn't necessarily have the benefit of all those eyes before green lighting a design which leads to these oddities. Or its a parts issue: "we have these hands, which one do you want". Who knows? I doubt it's deliberate sabotage though.
Would i prefer the minute hand to be a tad shorter? Yes. It's it a deal breaker as is? No.
Thanks for your considered comment.
Great video of a great watch. Congrats on getting in early before they sold out. Look forward to your full review. Thanks, Brian.
Thanks, I'm working on it. It's really impressed me during the first week
I'm just waiting for mine to turn up 😁. I had the opportunity of buying a 1016 about 7 years ago and like an idiot I declined , the prices nowadays are too insane for me to consider one again without selling off 3 or 4 watches from the collection which I don't think I could bring myself to do at present. This Everest will scratch that itch for a while I'm hoping , unless I love it so much that the 1016 quest begins again!!!
Ahh, missed opportunity. Still, i think the PR25 will definitely scratch that itch, it's a great little watch. And a lot less fragile than a 1016. I can't imagine dropping 10+k on a 1016 and using it as an every day watch. I'm not interested in safe queens, but a 1016 would have to be. The Smith's is something you can actually enjoy every day.
Wear your new watch in good health
Just had mine turn up from the most recent drop. Very happy!
Congrats and wear it in good health
Beautiful piece, respects from South Africa
Mine arrived today absolutely stunning time piece both looks and quality will have to see how it runs.
Enjoy your new watch. Mines running like s champ at +2s/d. There is a bit of rotor noise though, nothing terrible
@@WTMS1 I will thanks for your prompt response.
Many thanks for a concise and well presented review of a great watch.
Thanks for your kind comment. It is greatly appreciated
Ordered this timepiece, still waiting for it to arrive. Looks great 👍
It's worth the wait, I'm sure you're going to love it
Great review and stunning watch 👍
I just bought one last Weekend. What a crazy scramble to buy. Within the first 5 minutes they were all sold out. I am now waiting.
That's how it is, but well done for getting in. Enjoy your new piece. I'm sure you're going to love it
Great job pal. Thanks for the review. Cheers from NYC.
I've got the expedition on order, just impatiently waiting now
The expedition is a fantastic watch. Wear it in good health.
Great first review. I have the previous version and hopefully the expedition will be on its way soon 🤞
Thanks, and you'll love the expedition, it's a great watch
i wish the 369 font can be more rounded and wider, less of modern computer font that is, that would be perfect... nice watch nonetheless
It would be cool to see a black dial everest expedition
That's an interesting idea! I really like the dial layout and the red hand but the color is too creamy for me. A bit bolder red (looks rosy in the pics online) would also help?
Thanks for sharing this unboxing video. Besides the logo, the proportion of the hands is better than previous versions. Do you think it’s fair to call this the Timefactors Explorer, when Smiths Everest by Timefactors is how it’s sold? I know it’s a homage, but it is deserving of its own recognition.
Hands were improved with v2, i don't know that there have been further revisions with v3, I'll check. And yes it's a Smiths Everest which is an Explorer homage.
WT MS The minute hand looks like it was shortened, but still not quite enough I think. If you compare it with a Rolex Explorer the Everest minute hand is still too deep into the minute track.
I'll check the revisions for the full review, and include some comparisons. I think the hour hand was lengthened for v2. The minute hand is very close to the rehaut, it can't have been much longer. But i agree it would be better if it just met the minute track
Looks like the tip of minute hand barely gets into the minute track. It doesn’t seem to bother me from the photos, although I agree with your assessment. What does trip my OCD is the width difference between the minute hand and the base of the hour hand. Amazing watch, that only one thing jumps out. The faint “EVEREST” is apparently now on par with the boldness of the Smiths logo, which I prefer, going by pics on the website.
I know what you mean about the minute and hour hands. It's something you notice on wrist, but it's not terrible, it doesn't bother me. Not like the over long hour hand on the Air Ministry!!
Thanks for watching and commenting
Now this would be the ideal watch for me if only it was fitted with the Seiko "Mecaquartz" movement.
I cannot see the attraction of mechanical movements especially the automatic versions...
New logo 👌👌
How can I know when they get restocked? Want to wear this in my wedding.
Sign up to the newsletter on timefactors website
Same here.. but i think that takes away the fun a little. I wanna spend the money, i like it, but you have to be like a group of dogs preying on one piece of meat to get what you want. Why not have a timeframe where you can pre order and then he makes the order to the factory. Win win in my book. Hope you will have a good wedding congrats.
Do they advertise the buying "window" or is it always on the same day every month?
Really digging these watches , seen a few models I want to buy.
It is always Sunday at 14.00 UK time. If you sign up to the newsletter on the website you'll get notified of the next opening. It has been as brief as 10 minutes in the past though, so you have to be quick!!
It's us worth the effort though, they are stunning watches, especially for the money
@@WTMS1 thanks for the reply.
Signed up for the newsletter.
Looking at some of there offerings I'm surprised they are not more videos on them.
I'm after the Smith's PRS 29 and 36, hopefully I'll drop on them, fingers crossed.
The Sewills ark royal looks amazing (with black strap) but doubt that will pop up again.
How can i have the new Smiths 36mm thru COD?
What a great looking watch! Gorgeous and a solid price. The name/logo change was the right move for sure. How's it doing now? Still happy?
Still in love! It's a fantastic watch. People in the comments like to pick out minor flaws, which may be valid, but this is one of those watches that it greater than the sum of its parts.
The main negative for me is that the clasp picks up quite a lot of desk driving marks, but it's a very minor complaint. Planning a 4 way comparison soon, so I'll go over pros/cons of longer term ownership.
Thanks for watching and commenting. It is greatly appreciated
WT MS, I've watched several of your vids a number of times and it's a shame you didn't get 1k subs yet. 82 comments and only 958 subs. I don't get it. So dear watch community friends add those 42 subs, please. However, since there have been no uploads in the last two months I hope everything is fine. Cheers!
Hi and thanks for the comment. Creating content is a hobby for me, and a very hectic work load recently hasn't left me time to make me any new vids. I do have a couple of interesting new pieces though, so I'm hoping to find time soon.
RUclips is hard to figure out as a creator. Done vids get lots of views but hardly any subs. Sometimes the other way around. Still, I do it because I love watches. If people like my content enough to sub that's a bonus.
Thanks again for your kind words
What time of day does the sale start?
Normally 14.00 UK time. But if you subscribe to the newsletter you will get notified.
Mine arriving on Monday!
I see Eddie had switched from that nice travel case into the quite ugly glass case. That's a bit dissapoitment.
Enjoy your new watch. Yes, the travel case is so so. But it means the watch arrives safely, so for what i want it serves its purpose. I can't see using it otherwise.
I think he used to ship a double carry case which might be more useful
@@WTMS1 Thanks. Yeap, the watch is the real deal. Whatever you say about Rolex they always had the best, simple, perfectly balanced, toolish design over there. The number of homages says it all. No other brand was coppied, quoted or inspiring like Rolex.
You are right, but yet it is arguable that even Rolex have been 'inspired' by others. The 50 Fathoms came before the submariner. As hinted at in this video, my Rolex ownership experience left me cold. I enjoy these affordable pieces much more.
how can i buy it?
The store is open tomorrow, 14.00 UK time. I don't know whether this is still in stock, so you'll have to check
Beautiful watch mate, I'd love to get my hands on one but its sounds difficult
Thanks for the comment. Yes, they are beautiful watches. Best advice is to sign up for the TF newsletter, Eddie sends updates about stock and store opening. There is always the used market, but you'll pay a premium. Cheers
Missed the window, was going to go for the Smith Everest Expedition but yours really does look up to snuff.
The expedition is one of my favourites. A beauty watch. They'll be another window, but you have to be fast!!
Does it keep time well?
Yes, very well, +2-3s a day. I should add that the Swiss powered prs29's are even better
How can i get one ? Pls help me..
Sign up to the news letter at Timefactors. Eddie sends out updates with stock and store opening details. The store opens at 14.00 UK time and you gotta be quick. Posts on the forum suggest these sold out in about 15 minutes. But there will be more. Otherwise eBay, but one of the reasons these are such a good value proposition is that the used prices are higher
How can i order a brand new Smiths 36mm, in COD in the Philippines..
Hi,
Thanks for good review!!
I like it so much!!
Where can I buy this beautiful watch?
Stay safe and have a good day!!
Timefactors website. If it's out of stock just sign up for the newsletter to get updates
@@WTMS1 Ok.Thanks a lot!!
@@WTMS1 Can you resell it to me?:)
Sorry, I'm not planning to sell any of my Timefactors watches. Just be patient and you can get one from the store
Time Factors is unobtainable as well.
Very nice, but for me 36mm is too small. Had it been a 39" it would have been perfect!
Have a look at the Timefactors website, these come in 40mm
It’s impossible to buy anything from time factors...
Why
@@msugal because he only has the site open for 30min
@@jimwashington860 I'm waiting for the next patch, and I know how hard the 30 min window is.
@@msugal good luck
Almost impossible. My black dial Everest and cream dial Expedition arrived the other day. Both excellent watches.
What si your wrist size plz?
6.5"
I have one of the earlier versions. I like this new version but the only thing that stands out to me as a negative is the width of the minute hand which looks too wide but this might not be as obvious in the metal.
You have a point there. It's one of those things you only really notice while staring at the dial, not so much while wearing the watch.
WT MS Yes these are very minor details. I don’t mind the old Smiths logo but your vintage one looks great. Your hour hand is longer and an improvement over mine I think. Maybe I will find my perfect version with a MK4 😀
The only thing that I feel also needs an update, that crown. If timefactors had done a more Rolex style crown instead of this barrel shaped obtrusion, I feel the watch would be perfect and look leagues better. That straight walled barrel shape of the crown looks uninspired, ugly and is not great to grip. However the Rolex style that is a bit shorter, slightly bigger in circumference and has a chamfered inner and outer edge, leaves a nice ring of traction to grip and protrudes off the case to a lesser degree.
I know what you mean about the crown, and i agree that a big crowd version would be interesting. But there is so much to like about this watch that you can forgive small imperfections.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I had one for 2 weeks couldn't bond with it....wanted to believed the hype...not sure why guess it was because its basically a cheap Chinese homage.
Might want to cover your address next time! Don't know the weirdos out there.
You are right, but luckily that's not my address is the Timefactors return address.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Not a homage
What is your definition of homage , I’ m not a familiar with the use of that term !
Smiths watches are nothing more than a watch made 100% in china with chinese generic parts. This is what you are buying if you go ahead.
Why a Rolex homage? because the chinese have been making rolex copies for decades - there is plenty of factories producing them and it is easy and cheaper to assemble a watch using cases and bracelets that are a plain copy of a rolex.
What are you getting extra from Smiths that justify the extra payment in opposition to the Rolex copies/hommages available at Aliexpress/ebay/alibaba for less than 100usd? Very little, but in summary the next:
- Packaging: Smiths delivers the watch in an extremely cheap packaging - u can appreciate this in the video
- Quality of the case and bracelet: the same as the ones sold at Aliexpress for less than 100usd.
- Watch glass: Smiths offers sapphire but the ones from Aliexpress too - no improvement here.
- Movement: Smiths offers a Miyota 9015 movement (btw a good movement), the ones at Aliexpress tend to offer the next options Miyota 8215, Seiko NH36, seagull ST16 or a generic chinese 2813 (The last one being the worst option - but is also fitted into the very cheapest watches, at around 50usd).
- Dial and hands: Smiths comes with a simple printed dial - this is the cheapest way to produce a dial - and very generic rolex hands. Some of the other chinese copies come with dials with applied markers - this is more expensive yet those watches are sold for far less than Smiths.
- Customer service: Chinese sellers are not known for providing a good customer service, but here is the key, Aliexpress intercedes between you and the seller and if you have a complain or receive a damage/defective product... you are likely to receive a full or partial refund. In the case of Smiths watches.... you just need to check out this video and will understand the type of person behind Smiths and what he delivers as a "customer service". ruclips.net/video/UfN4TLjsXPg/видео.html&lc=Ugw3F88zhYe8PNzz2Oh4AaABAg.9I09Cu91HeE9I3ejLKxCVy
The last topic is brand heritage: Once a brand becomes abandoned by the owners - and this was the case of Smiths watches... Anybody can register and own the name by registering it again to himself --- this is the case of Smiths and many other brands (Ball watches, etc...). Timefactors has been importing batches of chinese watches and re-selling them to european customers since 1996... At some point the guy owning Timefactors realized he could re-register abandoned historical brands and he has done it several times... check Timefactors offerings, he not only offers Smiths but also other less known historical brands he has registered again---- the difference between the different brands he sells? only the brand logo he is requesting the chinese manufacturer to print on the dial. ----------- MAKE up your mind if you consider this kind of "heritage" deserves any additional value or payment.
This guy^^^^ must not know that ALL the Swiss brands contain parts made in Asia, every single brand, bar none. He is paying the SwissMade Tax for his watches. At least Timefactors is honest about it
@@yankeexpress Honesty on taking a chinese copy of a Rolex and slapping on it the brand name from a defunct company? It reminds me the typical guy in a psychiatric hospital saying that he is Napoleon Bonaparte.
I want to smoke the same as you man.
Anyhow, keep using your chinese rolex knock-off and beleive that those watches made in china were the ones that climbed the everest first - dont let the other people beleive you are a moron.