Only chance i had beating you was winning with kanna so exchanging ws was the right play but didnt chain with the secomd one no chance of winning at all
Lol nice gameplay but from personal experience, she's a bad character. She needs a buff on her ws and her def. U did a gud job at building her but da average person isnt gonna be able to manage da same thing.
8:50 this is why sumire is a bad character, because she is unreliable with the skill when that is the only way she can win... a decent player can dodge it well, and once you miss its hard to come out with a strong health lead and she is quite squishy also she doesnt even kill with chain sometimes, you could win any other game with arabelle much easier especially because her ws is much more reliable
That's true, but the opponent at 13:22 is piloted by the same guy, arguably the best player in Asia 2, and they got chained in 2. It's a ws that's quite easy to dodge but it's not so easy that even top players can't really dodge it too consistently, especially when the Sumire isn't on a timer, unlike against units like Crosselle and Parvati. I think she's a unit that is weak in theory, in a world where everyone actually plays perfectly. But tbh less than 10% of the playerbase know what they're doing so she's actually quite a decent unit.
@@vierzenf you can say that last thing about any hero, but i even played vs lulleh and his sumire with melee buff couldn't kill my noxia in 2 ws + chain (and hes got maxed stats) if you have movement speed sumire will never hit her skill, you dont even need to be good to dodge that and then you can even lack damage on chain even though youre outstatting them by a ton just not a good hero, coupled with the fact that crit buff is such a contested role (theres many powerful crit buffers like carol, parvati, hana, etc) that are just more reliable and stronger overall also, he couldve dodged your skill there but im guessing he didnt play against sumire much considering he walked back into your 2nd ws... thats not a good argument though, thats just inexperience
@@HELLO-ux1jp I'm not sure how Lulleh's Sumire wasn't able to take down your Noxia tbh (Though I'm guessing he's extremely unlucky with crits). I'm playing against a lot of top 100 Priscilla players and Sumire can consistently take them down with chain. In mono dark, it can even delete them in triple tank comps, provided the chain skill crits.
@@vierzenf well theres no difference between dark atk buff and melee atk buff, since sumire is crit% point is - if you could beat them with sumire, you can easily beat them with other units that fit your team, for example arabelle with oghma and noxia will do much more work than sumire, or if you are a melee player (using erina + scintilla for example) a hana , carol or parvati can do what sumire does but with much more effectiveness sure, shes a "decent" unit, but decent isnt good enough when everything else is super strong/op
@@HELLO-ux1jp There is a difference because Sumire's WS deals ranged dmg. It's the main reason she underperforms in melee crit. And yes, while the other crit buffers are generally better than Sumire, none of them have movement speed. So even if she's outclassed in a lot of aspects, she can still fill a certain niche. I think Sumire is much better in double tank than Carol and Hana.
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20:04 That was so close! Had Tenacity used Scintilla instead of Plitvice, maybe he would have won that.
Some of the sumire plays you made just made me realise my very clunky plays when I use sumire lol
I like flashy plays but sometimes it's too much haha
Only chance i had beating you was winning with kanna so exchanging ws was the right play but didnt chain with the secomd one no chance of winning at all
Oh didn't realize you were the mono basic guy. Rip
Conclusion: one of those units that have big 1v3 potential
Also do you notice I'm using a cringe comp
what comp
I get it mono dark
Lol nice gameplay but from personal experience, she's a bad character. She needs a buff on her ws and her def. U did a gud job at building her but da average person isnt gonna be able to manage da same thing.
8:50 this is why sumire is a bad character, because she is unreliable with the skill when that is the only way she can win... a decent player can dodge it well, and once you miss its hard to come out with a strong health lead and she is quite squishy
also she doesnt even kill with chain sometimes, you could win any other game with arabelle much easier especially because her ws is much more reliable
That's true, but the opponent at 13:22 is piloted by the same guy, arguably the best player in Asia 2, and they got chained in 2. It's a ws that's quite easy to dodge but it's not so easy that even top players can't really dodge it too consistently, especially when the Sumire isn't on a timer, unlike against units like Crosselle and Parvati.
I think she's a unit that is weak in theory, in a world where everyone actually plays perfectly. But tbh less than 10% of the playerbase know what they're doing so she's actually quite a decent unit.
@@vierzenf you can say that last thing about any hero, but i even played vs lulleh and his sumire with melee buff couldn't kill my noxia in 2 ws + chain (and hes got maxed stats)
if you have movement speed sumire will never hit her skill, you dont even need to be good to dodge that and then you can even lack damage on chain even though youre outstatting them by a ton
just not a good hero, coupled with the fact that crit buff is such a contested role (theres many powerful crit buffers like carol, parvati, hana, etc) that are just more reliable and stronger overall
also, he couldve dodged your skill there but im guessing he didnt play against sumire much considering he walked back into your 2nd ws... thats not a good argument though, thats just inexperience
@@HELLO-ux1jp I'm not sure how Lulleh's Sumire wasn't able to take down your Noxia tbh (Though I'm guessing he's extremely unlucky with crits). I'm playing against a lot of top 100 Priscilla players and Sumire can consistently take them down with chain. In mono dark, it can even delete them in triple tank comps, provided the chain skill crits.
@@vierzenf well theres no difference between dark atk buff and melee atk buff, since sumire is crit%
point is - if you could beat them with sumire, you can easily beat them with other units that fit your team, for example arabelle with oghma and noxia will do much more work than sumire, or if you are a melee player (using erina + scintilla for example) a hana , carol or parvati can do what sumire does but with much more effectiveness
sure, shes a "decent" unit, but decent isnt good enough when everything else is super strong/op
@@HELLO-ux1jp There is a difference because Sumire's WS deals ranged dmg. It's the main reason she underperforms in melee crit.
And yes, while the other crit buffers are generally better than Sumire, none of them have movement speed. So even if she's outclassed in a lot of aspects, she can still fill a certain niche. I think Sumire is much better in double tank than Carol and Hana.