Been using v13.2.2 in heavy rain and it performed flawlessly. I am sure this will come to the Tesla Semi. It will be a game changer for the drivers. The Fatigue of constantly pressing accelerator, monitoring blindspots for more than 6+ hours will be reduced. What Tesla has a Winner.
Once I started seeing the reviews of FSD V12, I upgraded from EAP to FSD on my 2020 Tesla Model Y. I live in Alaska and use FSD every day, even with the snow on the roads (not when there is a complete white out). The system is amazing, I am looking forward to FSD V13 for Hardware 3.0. Thank you for sharing the NYC FSD experience!
It made some great decisions in this video. I don't blame you for being nervous about the way it keeps too far left when there's parked cars on both sides of the road. I think most humans would notice there isn't enough room for two way traffic and assert themselves by driving right up the middle - helps avoid unexpected cats dogs and children too. Something FSD should do.
I always go as far as I can to the left along parked cars. It just takes one mistake, even with FSD response times, to rip off a door. Take as much room as you like.
BT you used to be so critical of FSD before. Your confidence in the system is a testament to the Tesla team’s progress. Thanks for the ride along. Hoping my HW3 will perform as well.
We used to critique it for doing things a human would never do, now we critique it for doing things too much like a human because we expect the AI set itself to a better (safer?) standard.
Eventually, the AI will get so smart that it won't make mistakes that a human would make. Imagine cameras or software that can compensate for flare on the roads.
There's a balance of when to follow the rules like humans and when to not follow the rules like humans. I think it's based on the safest course of action. That's going to be a challenge that Tesla will continually have to solve for until there are more autonomous vehicles on the road than humans
@BlackTesla FSD 13 is right now lvl4 certification capable imo. It also, might take another 3 years for fsd to reach lvl5 , but not not with cameras only. Need that second failsafe, when there is no driver to help it out when a edge case has been encountered. On-board voice assistant ai and a sonar sensors are probably going to be needed for that. 🤷♂️ Merry Christmas 🎅 everyone and a happy new year. 2025.
13.2.2 brought me to dinner and back last night with only intervention a lane choice though a toll booth. It's the first version that I feel pretty comfortable letting it just do its thing. One caveat is that it ran a stop sign which used to be a yield sign. Not an excuse, but I'm liking it overall. It does lane drift and hug the lines occasionally.
thanks for the video! i always lookout for your NYC trips. Appreciate all the content. Sadly we all got those "superstar" drivers in our cities .. happy holidays!
Thanks for sharing - I'm experiencing something similar in the Midwest. The Tesla AI team is incredible. A year has made a huge difference. I think we're in the end game towards some variation of unsupervised.
And to think I was previously happy with the vehicle providing only turn by turn navigation instructions to get through that mess. Now it can drive it too - and with a reasonable amount of aggressiveness that is required.
Another great video. Definitely a confidence booster. I also saw a video on another channel showing a Model X on 13.2.2 driving in very tight spaces like the financial district and china town; with some very complex scenarios. It did extremely well, even backing up to make turns that were to tight. Pretty amazing to know it can do these things.
@@dekepgreen That's Savage Junkie channel. In fact the drive there was much more challenging than this one and I think there was zero intervention in NYC driving over 1 hour.
@ Spot on. And “much more challenging” is an understatement. 🙂 I’m not sure if I would have taken the drive! But the maneuvers I saw FSD making during the condensed 2-hour drive were amazing. My drives are much simpler and are also zero intervention. But as an engineer I am left astounded by what I saw in both these videos. In that one however, I was pretty much speechless. In that video, there were non-standard human maneuvers done with machine accuracy. In my estimation therein lay the problem/question. The concern with drifting in this video when coupled with the things I saw FSD doing in Junkies video make me wonder if there are deliberate AI decisions made to drift away from other vehicles, cross yellow lines, drive in bus lanes, etc. to accomplish “safe passage”. If so, when you consider the things I saw in Junkies video…and this one…it indicates an extremely complex thought pattern/process indicative of seeming human neural net capability. Or is what we saw in that video just plain happenstance?
32:05 Interesting observation about drifting happening at low speeds. Maybe the video clips used by the AI team for this build tend to "peak around" when traffic is bad (at least for the model S)?
Thanks for another ride-along, BT. 👍🙂👏 Another theory for the left-biased lane travel at low speed - perhaps the absence of airflow across the cameras at such speeds, after prolonged operation, may be contributing. Again, I hope your driving data makes it to the Austin compute mothership for analysis. Wholeheartedly agree that Elon and Ashok should get some FSD testers pounding NYC in the S3XY fleet and the CT. NYC is going to be a tough nut to crack, but one worth cracking - if it can consistently deliver intervention-free drives there, irrespective of season, it can do it anywhere. That would be a very positive step towards both FSD unsupervised and getting the green light from the regulators.
@@jdudleyh I was wondering that too, lol. But I watched a few other videos from different channels and the sounds didn't cut off at all, so I don't think it's our system
It’s possible the car elects to drive closer to the cars on the left because there’s more of a chance of a driver opening up the door on the right of your car than a passenger opening the door of the cars to your left.
Would have liked to see what it would have done at the Highlawn....park, pull up?? Maybe don't bail next time so we can see what it would do. So we know how much work is still to do at destinations. Thanks for what you do.
If my destination was highlawn it would've parked at the valet. The destination was the reservation so it was going to the back and I didn't want to park there
Maybe its Rettungsgasse , because it just occurs at very low speed ? Rettungsgasse = mandatory in germany to make an extra lane 4 emergency vehicles 2 get through
There is no way that a water-cooled CPU is going to overheat in a NYC winter environment. It's not even likely to happen in an Arizona summer. That's just not how these things operate. Also, the car tends to shy away from encroaching vehicles from the left and right, in these latest software builds.
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Would really like Tesla to decide L3 would be a major contribution to Telsa owners. There are only 2 requirements. First, be ready to take over if FSD determines it's encountering a difficult situation. Tesla would have to develop a graceful handoff routine. Second, you cannot fall asleep. It doesn't seem like FSD is that far away from L3. Perhaps by mid 2025. Will it happen? Doubtful since Tesla's priority is Robotaxi but frankly if Tesla wants to increase sale substantially L3 would make that happen. Imagine if you're a Ford/GM/BMW/Audi owner watching Tesla owners watching moves, reading, doing a cross word puzzles etc. I think a lot of legacy car owners would switch to Tesla knowing their legacy car company is easily at least 3-5 years away from FSD functionality.
It's cool to see the engineering team finally get it to this point. However, I could never support the company while Elon Musk is involved in any capacity.
The progress is amazing, still waiting for anything half as good as this in the UK. Hopefully whoever makes the rules here will get to see this amazing technology and get on with allowing us with Teslas to use it as soon as possible. Thanks for all your good work ❤
Okay, but can I give you something to think about? From a historical perspective, Henry Ford dragged the world from horse and buggy to what we could arguably say Transportation freedom. But he had his flaws.Henry Ford's controversial actions and beliefs include: Antisemitism: He published antisemitic articles in The Dearborn Independent (1920-1927), promoting conspiracy theories like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. His writings influenced Nazi ideology, with Adolf Hitler praising him in Mein Kampf Anti-union stance: Ford opposed labor unions, using strikebreakers and fostering violence during labor disputes Racism and cultural conservatism: He blamed Jews for modern cultural changes, including jazz music, movies, and fashion. He also resisted Eastern immigration and engaged in business ventures in Nazi Germany during the 1930s Naturally, there is a lot more but as you know Ford is a big company today. The value Ford brought to the world is immeasurable. So we need to get past the sound bites and look at really what the Tesla product can accomplish for the good of all.
@@okirooju3787 Because he is a liar! He said he cared about the environment right!? Ok so how does that go together with supporting MAGA Repuplicans who don't giva a damm about the environment? It was also him who spread the lie on X about the Haitians eating the cats and dogs of the people in Ohio! He didn't care less putting their lives in danger! He fooled everybody including me, but now he has showb his true ugly colours! He is nothing more than a wolf who was dressed up in sheep's clothing!
You conclude by saying « Again the car is not autonomous, it can’t drive itself. it just has Ai that can manipulate the car to drive from point A to point B without human intervention. Still a level two super advanced driver assistance feature. » What features are missing to make FSD V13.2.2 suitable for robotaxi ? The question is not easy, but the to do list should not be that long now…
Check out the SAE levels it gives criteria for what the levels are. Level 2 requires supervision which is why they started calling FSD (supervised) to comply with thay rating. Levels 3-5 don't require supervision but work under certain circumstances.
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Been using v13.2.2 in heavy rain and it performed flawlessly. I am sure this will come to the Tesla Semi. It will be a game changer for the drivers. The Fatigue of constantly pressing accelerator, monitoring blindspots for more than 6+ hours will be reduced. What Tesla has a Winner.
You are rightly critical but in terms of lane drift it is doing much better than 80% of drivers.
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Once I started seeing the reviews of FSD V12, I upgraded from EAP to FSD on my 2020 Tesla Model Y. I live in Alaska and use FSD every day, even with the snow on the roads (not when there is a complete white out). The system is amazing, I am looking forward to FSD V13 for Hardware 3.0. Thank you for sharing the NYC FSD experience!
It looks certain that Tesla will solve this life saving and life changing technology❤
Should be criminal charges against legacy media for not reporting on this life saving technology
Understandable because of Elon musk
Were the media now
Reading this comment made my brain smoother
Tesla doesn’t help their ad revenue and that’s why
This thing drives way better than me !!!! 🙂
It made some great decisions in this video.
I don't blame you for being nervous about the way it keeps too far left when there's parked cars on both sides of the road. I think most humans would notice there isn't enough room for two way traffic and assert themselves by driving right up the middle - helps avoid unexpected cats dogs and children too. Something FSD should do.
I always go as far as I can to the left along parked cars. It just takes one mistake, even with FSD response times, to rip off a door. Take as much room as you like.
BT you used to be so critical of FSD before. Your confidence in the system is a testament to the Tesla team’s progress. Thanks for the ride along. Hoping my HW3 will perform as well.
Thank you for always taking the time to teach us.
Tesla should use your videos for marketing.
Appreciate that, hopefully they do!
We used to critique it for doing things a human would never do, now we critique it for doing things too much like a human because we expect the AI set itself to a better (safer?) standard.
Even if its better people will still complain saying it's better to drive the way locals do even if it's breaking the law
Eventually, the AI will get so smart that it won't make mistakes that a human would make. Imagine cameras or software that can compensate for flare on the roads.
@@xpreflex6265 the status quo rules right or wrong in a lot of minds
There's a balance of when to follow the rules like humans and when to not follow the rules like humans. I think it's based on the safest course of action. That's going to be a challenge that Tesla will continually have to solve for until there are more autonomous vehicles on the road than humans
@BlackTesla
FSD 13 is right now lvl4 certification capable imo.
It also, might take another 3 years for fsd to reach lvl5 , but not not with cameras only.
Need that second failsafe, when there is no driver to help it out when a edge case has been encountered.
On-board voice assistant ai and a sonar sensors are probably going to be needed for that. 🤷♂️
Merry Christmas 🎅 everyone
and a happy new year. 2025.
Over the line moment was just truck avoidance 😊
@7:25 the way it confidently squeezed pass was amazing
Thank you for sharing!!!
Enjoy the rest of the holidays
13.2.2 brought me to dinner and back last night with only intervention a lane choice though a toll booth. It's the first version that I feel pretty comfortable letting it just do its thing. One caveat is that it ran a stop sign which used to be a yield sign. Not an excuse, but I'm liking it overall. It does lane drift and hug the lines occasionally.
After a good meal is a great use case for FSD
It was good just to see the car drive and less interruption and talking.
Still waiting for FSD 13.2.3 in Sweden
Great content as usual!
thanks for the video! i always lookout for your NYC trips. Appreciate all the content. Sadly we all got those "superstar" drivers in our cities .. happy holidays!
Good vid. Gosh that is amazing.
They are almost there Mr Terrific!!!!!
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the car did great.
man i could not live there. that tunnel is a no go! no trees.
Thanks for sharing - I'm experiencing something similar in the Midwest. The Tesla AI team is incredible. A year has made a huge difference. I think we're in the end game towards some variation of unsupervised.
And to think I was previously happy with the vehicle providing only turn by turn navigation instructions to get through that mess. Now it can drive it too - and with a reasonable amount of aggressiveness that is required.
Another great video. Definitely a confidence booster. I also saw a video on another channel showing a Model X on 13.2.2 driving in very tight spaces like the financial district and china town; with some very complex scenarios. It did extremely well, even backing up to make turns that were to tight. Pretty amazing to know it can do these things.
@@dekepgreen That's Savage Junkie channel. In fact the drive there was much more challenging than this one and I think there was zero intervention in NYC driving over 1 hour.
@ Spot on. And “much more challenging” is an understatement. 🙂 I’m not sure if I would have taken the drive! But the maneuvers I saw FSD making during the condensed 2-hour drive were amazing. My drives are much simpler and are also zero intervention. But as an engineer I am left astounded by what I saw in both these videos. In that one however, I was pretty much speechless. In that video, there were non-standard human maneuvers done with machine accuracy. In my estimation therein lay the problem/question. The concern with drifting in this video when coupled with the things I saw FSD doing in Junkies video make me wonder if there are deliberate AI decisions made to drift away from other vehicles, cross yellow lines, drive in bus lanes, etc. to accomplish “safe passage”. If so, when you consider the things I saw in Junkies video…and this one…it indicates an extremely complex thought pattern/process indicative of seeming human neural net capability. Or is what we saw in that video just plain happenstance?
32:05 Interesting observation about drifting happening at low speeds. Maybe the video clips used by the AI team for this build tend to "peak around" when traffic is bad (at least for the model S)?
A lot of drivers like to hug left to see what is slowing things down ahead. Perhaps it has been trained on those clips.
Thanks for another ride-along, BT. 👍🙂👏 Another theory for the left-biased lane travel at low speed - perhaps the absence of airflow across the cameras at such speeds, after prolonged operation, may be contributing. Again, I hope your driving data makes it to the Austin compute mothership for analysis. Wholeheartedly agree that Elon and Ashok should get some FSD testers pounding NYC in the S3XY fleet and the CT. NYC is going to be a tough nut to crack, but one worth cracking - if it can consistently deliver intervention-free drives there, irrespective of season, it can do it anywhere. That would be a very positive step towards both FSD unsupervised and getting the green light from the regulators.
Lane drifting never happens on Model Y, currently Model Y runs 13.2.2 the best It seems.
Is the audio cutting out just for me?
Driving me crazy. Wondering if it is my computer.
@@jdudleyh I was wondering that too, lol. But I watched a few other videos from different channels and the sounds didn't cut off at all, so I don't think it's our system
It’s possible the car elects to drive closer to the cars on the left because there’s more of a chance of a driver opening up the door on the right of your car than a passenger opening the door of the cars to your left.
Not likely but it's possible....however it was so close that if anyone thought to open the door on the cars on the left it would be game over
Would have liked to see what it would have done at the Highlawn....park, pull up?? Maybe don't bail next time so we can see what it would do. So we know how much work is still to do at destinations. Thanks for what you do.
If my destination was highlawn it would've parked at the valet. The destination was the reservation so it was going to the back and I didn't want to park there
Would you give up the steering wheel altogether (get a cybercab)? Makes sense for a big city like New York.
No, I love driving so I'd keep the wheel and use FSD when I'm tired or in traffic
when AI5 comes in with V14.
Hw3 - V14 mini
Hw4 - V14 Pro
AI5 - V14 Pro Max
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Hope you bring up the "lane drifting" to Tesla as I have experienced this with FSD 12.5.4.2 on 2023 Model Y Hardware 4.
appreciate the fast forward on boring sections, the jarring jump cuts were annoying
Lane centering issues are a curious thing, given it was one of the first things the FSD team had to solve years ago.
Maybe its Rettungsgasse , because it just occurs at very low speed ? Rettungsgasse = mandatory in germany to make an extra lane 4 emergency vehicles 2 get through
yoyo effect😂
one thing I haven't seen much of on FSD 13 videos is interaction with motorcycles, lane splitting, things like that
It moves over and sometimes a lot
Could it be due to system resources that is limited. Like it got too much memory use or cache / logg file that makes it´s slowing down?
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Any close calls on the curbing with 13.2.2?
Yes it hit the sloping curb at the end of this video
There is no way that a water-cooled CPU is going to overheat in a NYC winter environment. It's not even likely to happen in an Arizona summer. That's just not how these things operate. Also, the car tends to shy away from encroaching vehicles from the left and right, in these latest software builds.
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FSD is NOT getting tired...
Of course not, that's why I said that's not the term to use but performance was degrading that was undeniable
“It keeps drifting left” as the human driven cars in front are also staying left away from traffic.
Seems that most errors caused by FSD 13.2.2 are caused by sun glare (from most users’ videos)
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Would really like Tesla to decide L3 would be a major contribution to Telsa owners. There are only 2 requirements. First, be ready to take over if FSD determines it's encountering a difficult situation. Tesla would have to develop a graceful handoff routine. Second, you cannot fall asleep. It doesn't seem like FSD is that far away from L3. Perhaps by mid 2025. Will it happen? Doubtful since Tesla's priority is Robotaxi but frankly if Tesla wants to increase sale substantially L3 would make that happen. Imagine if you're a Ford/GM/BMW/Audi owner watching Tesla owners watching moves, reading, doing a cross word puzzles etc. I think a lot of legacy car owners would switch to Tesla knowing their legacy car company is easily at least 3-5 years away from FSD functionality.
The driver seat of America is at the left such as Taiwan.👍😄
You are that HW 4 dude!
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It's cool to see the engineering team finally get it to this point. However, I could never support the company while Elon Musk is involved in any capacity.
Because he doesn't tow your ideological and political lines?
Elon rules.
The progress is amazing, still waiting for anything half as good as this in the UK. Hopefully whoever makes the rules here will get to see this amazing technology and get on with allowing us with Teslas to use it as soon as possible. Thanks for all your good work ❤
Okay, but can I give you something to think about? From a historical perspective, Henry Ford dragged the world from horse and buggy to what we could arguably say Transportation freedom. But he had his flaws.Henry Ford's controversial actions and beliefs include:
Antisemitism: He published antisemitic articles in The Dearborn Independent (1920-1927), promoting conspiracy theories like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. His writings influenced Nazi ideology, with Adolf Hitler praising him in Mein Kampf
Anti-union stance: Ford opposed labor unions, using strikebreakers and fostering violence during labor disputes
Racism and cultural conservatism: He blamed Jews for modern cultural changes, including jazz music, movies, and fashion. He also resisted Eastern immigration
and engaged in business ventures in Nazi Germany during the 1930s
Naturally, there is a lot more but as you know Ford is a big company today. The value Ford brought to the world is immeasurable. So we need to get past the sound bites and look at really what the Tesla product can accomplish for the good of all.
@@okirooju3787
Because he is a liar!
He said he cared about the environment right!?
Ok so how does that go together with supporting MAGA Repuplicans who don't giva a damm about the environment?
It was also him who spread the lie on X about the Haitians eating the cats and dogs of the people in Ohio!
He didn't care less putting their lives in danger!
He fooled everybody including me, but now he has showb his true ugly colours!
He is nothing more than a wolf who was dressed up in sheep's clothing!
You conclude by saying « Again the car is not autonomous, it can’t drive itself. it just has Ai that can manipulate the car to drive from point A to point B without human intervention. Still a level two super advanced driver assistance feature. » What features are missing to make FSD V13.2.2 suitable for robotaxi ? The question is not easy, but the to do list should not be that long now…
Check out the SAE levels it gives criteria for what the levels are. Level 2 requires supervision which is why they started calling FSD (supervised) to comply with thay rating. Levels 3-5 don't require supervision but work under certain circumstances.