What are some crazy drum recording techniques do you like? Moses Schneider has worked with huge international acts such as Pixies and Nick Cave, big-selling German bands Tocotronic and Kreator, and has made a name for himself as an author. He is also known for creating the famous 'Wurst Mic" technique along with two newer techniques; the 'Droom' and the 'Snareo'. Multitracks of his recording are also available to practice with and add these new techniques to your recording arsenal: producelikeapro.com/blog/drum-recording-with-moses-schneider/
Not a recording technique but still a cool trick. You can Frequency Shift and EQ Match your auxilary snare/kick sample so they blend better with the live drums!
well .. dirt mic.. take a cheap dynamic and point it into a wall or corner.. 2-3m from the kit... or 1 cm above the floor pointing down. And then put a distressor on it at full Monty. The Wurst mic I use ALWAYS.
I love the Droom concept! I often put room mics behind walls, gobo’s, or doors which eliminates lots of cymbals and you can get a huge drum sound, However… you do have to deal with the flamming which can be a pain to get right. This seems like same result but 100 times easier. Can’t wait to try it. Mind blowing end of this video with Moses’ sound design ideas! This Information Age is truly inspiring with access to people like Warren and Moses Schneider’s brilliant minds!
Absolutely DELIGHTED to see Moses featured here, and explaining some of his supercreative ideas & tricks!! 👍🏻👍🏻 The man is a true treasure, creatively well off the beaten track and regrettably too often off the radar of the usual USA/UK recording & studio biz focus. Kudos x 1000 for this! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I love Mose’s techniques. I’ve read his book and applied his inconvetional techniques so many times. Specially when recording everybody together. The Würst miking is always present in my drum recordings.
Moses never ceases to inspire me and make me smile! Honestly feels like he is in touch with the childlike-wonderment that we all felt when we started listening to music; so vital.
The whole mindset makes it shine. What a wonderful video this is. Thanx Warren for sharing this to a large audience. . And of course: kudos to Moses for sharing these inspiring thoughts.
i never would have thought of putting a mic THERE!! 🤔 or that kind of mic so many new and exiting concepts to try...thank you Warren and thank YOU Moses!
Well done on finally getting Moses on your channel!... he is a creative genius - so innovative in his thinking about mic techniques. A few years back I bought his book "The Alternative Workbook - or How to Pimp Your Practice Room", which is excellent, and included the "wurst" mic technique, which I've used. Droom and Snare-O are equally cool ideas, thanks!
Have Moses and Trent Reznor ever worked together bc these drum sounds give me some NIN feelings in the best possible way. It’s far from imitation. It is shared aesthetic. Of course hip hop rules the world with these sample pack/beat packs but I’m hearing industrial glory mixed with some of the great aggrotech vibes of Germany. Loving the European focus lately. It turns out Europeans have a culture and have contributed to the great works of human art after all.
One of my favourite videos so far from PLAP. Would love a further deep dive on Moses' editing techniques, perhaps as they get closer to the release of the pack? His drum ideas aren't too far from my own, but I got most of those tips from phone conversations with Glyn Johns 30 years ago, when I was but a young lad (who'd managed to crib his number from New Model Army's 'Slade The Leveller'). The best piece of advice: 'keep a tape measure handy'.
Its refreshing and inspiring to see a man with such a track record and still maintains this childlike enthusiasm and such an emotional bond with his craft and with the music This guy hasn’t forgotten why he is doing what he is doing I shared this clip with a young engineer I befriended recently he is 28 I will be 62 and he told me - Udi he reminds me of you… I told him I consider this as a big compliment
I tried the “droom” technique in my last drum session after seeing him explain it in a different video and it really did make everything sound huge. It won’t work for every song, but it really surprised me!
Very inspiring stuff!!..........I've always wanted to try a room mic that was close to the kit, but facing the opposite direction. I'm going to try it with my old SM7. I'm prepping to do a drum session next month for the first time in 5yrs!.....and I'm needing some inspiration.........VOILA' !! 😊🙏
Wow I think he just solved my issues with having a crappy room sound, low ceilings, etc. with wurst and snareo technique. Now I just need more mics and inputs. The Droom technique sounds cool. I thought Blumlein was cool in front of a kit, but this is really exciting and I can’t wait to try this.
One question: Moses says he ended up with the omni polar pattern for the SnareO, but then he uses the RODE NT5 Mics, which are cardioid - or can you switch polar patterns on those? Best regards and Moses rulez! 🙂
@@Producelikeapro definitely! Will you work with him for the Kult? I think he would fit in nicely there! For example he did the Kreator Album Hordes of Chaos, I would love to see a Kollaboration with him. LLtK! 🤘🏻
I'm a huge fan of Moses and applying his wurst micing technique on every drum's rec. I've some questions for him : - Aren't 441 mics are supercardioids and not hypercardioids ? As i plan to use my telefunken M81 (supercardioids) for Drooms ;-) - And aren't NT5 are cardioids or do you use NT-45 O omni capsule on its ? Can't wait my next drum rec session to try your wunderbar creative techniques 🙂 Danke sehr !!!
Please forgive my ignorance and misunderstanding... When he is presenting the "Wurst" mic technique, is he saying "cheese bell"? Like a dish to keep cheese in? Can someone politely explain his analogy? Thank you!
@@austinbridge He used the word "dome" ("sphere" may be a better term here) to refer to the capturing of the drum kit as a whole. And then he says the "wurst" is outside of that "sphere". BTW, the term "wurst" comes from the German word "verwursten", which means "to mangle".
"...for zis extra bass zee love in Berlin so much, I invented zee In-Arsch mic technique. You take a SM57 and tell zee drummer to take off his pants..."
I prefer a single mono overhead mic, usually my modified Rode Nt2 in omni and I hit it with few compressors, none of which are compressing very heavily. I also avaoid SM 57s on snares... nothing wrong with them I just have others I prefer like my vintage AKG D190 E... get it real close to the shell.
What are some crazy drum recording techniques do you like? Moses Schneider has worked with huge international acts such as Pixies and Nick Cave, big-selling German bands Tocotronic and Kreator, and has made a name for himself as an author. He is also known for creating the famous 'Wurst Mic" technique along with two newer techniques; the 'Droom' and the 'Snareo'. Multitracks of his recording are also available to practice with and add these new techniques to your recording arsenal: producelikeapro.com/blog/drum-recording-with-moses-schneider/
What are the shell of this set made of? Another valuable video Warren, Thanks.
Not a recording technique but still a cool trick. You can Frequency Shift and EQ Match your auxilary snare/kick sample so they blend better with the live drums!
I taped a piezo to the wall of my drum room, for huge room sound. I was able to crush it to bits because there was really good cymbal rejection.
In fact, I love to use Moses Wurst's technique to have the possibility to add a lot of excitement to my drum sounds if needed.
well .. dirt mic.. take a cheap dynamic and point it into a wall or corner.. 2-3m from the kit... or 1 cm above the floor pointing down. And then put a distressor on it at full Monty.
The Wurst mic I use ALWAYS.
Moses is a real drum Wizard. the Gandalf of drum recording and drum producing! 100% inspiring 😎
Moses is the real deal!
MS is the absolute master. So creative and so vital. Glad you finally were able to get him on!
He truly is!
I love the Droom concept! I often put room mics behind walls, gobo’s, or doors which eliminates lots of cymbals and you can get a huge drum sound, However… you do have to deal with the flamming which can be a pain to get right. This seems like same result but 100 times easier. Can’t wait to try it. Mind blowing end of this video with Moses’ sound design ideas! This Information Age is truly inspiring with access to people like Warren and Moses Schneider’s brilliant minds!
Thanks ever so much! Yes, Moses is a godsend! Very talented and extremely cool guy
I am beyond impressed with this guy.
Agreed 100%!
Absolutely DELIGHTED to see Moses featured here, and explaining some of his supercreative ideas & tricks!!
👍🏻👍🏻
The man is a true treasure, creatively well off the beaten track and regrettably too often off the radar of the usual USA/UK recording & studio biz focus.
Kudos x 1000 for this!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yes, Moses is superb! Wonderful man and very talented!
I love Mose’s techniques. I’ve read his book and applied his inconvetional techniques so many times. Specially when recording everybody together. The Würst miking is always present in my drum recordings.
That's amazing to hear! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Moses never ceases to inspire me and make me smile! Honestly feels like he is in touch with the childlike-wonderment that we all felt when we started listening to music; so vital.
Talented and innovative engineer but most importantly a lovely person. We’re lucky to have his insight here, thank you!
Agreed 100%!
YESS, I was waiting for him on your channel! One of the best producers and engineers ever! Thank you Produce Like a Pro!
Huge fan of Moses!
LOVE this guy!!! thanks for putting a spotlight on him!
Thanks ever so much!
Couldn’t agree more!🎉
Marvellous!@@scope_labs
man... the droom is such a great idea. Moses is pure class.
Yes, it is and yes, he is!!
I really love his approach! It's driven by creativity, but it's all really grounded to all make technical sense too. Very inspiring stuff!
Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Moses is a legend!
what a lovely crossover, man!
Yes! Moses certainly is a legend!
What an endlessly creative producer!! That was so much fun to listen and learn.
Yes, Moses is amazing!
Holy moly, Thank you so much!!! I enjoyed watching this video so much. I think I gained 15 years of experience in one hour. THANK YOU MOSES !!!
Thanks ever so much Jean-Francois!
The whole mindset makes it shine. What a wonderful video this is. Thanx Warren for sharing this to a large audience. . And of course: kudos to Moses for sharing these inspiring thoughts.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i never would have thought of putting a mic THERE!! 🤔
or that kind of mic
so many new and exiting concepts to try...thank you Warren and thank YOU Moses!
You're so welcome! Moses Rocks!
I love crazy techniques! I always try to keep things as basic and simple as possible, but it's also nice to learn more techniques!
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Moses ! Schön dich zu sehen mein Lieber.. x Großartig wie immer. Weitermachen !
Ja, Moses ist sehr gut! Super!
Well done on finally getting Moses on your channel!... he is a creative genius - so innovative in his thinking about mic techniques. A few years back I bought his book "The Alternative Workbook - or How to Pimp Your Practice Room", which is excellent, and included the "wurst" mic technique, which I've used. Droom and Snare-O are equally cool ideas, thanks!
YES! Moses is fantastic!!
Moses is a great guy!
I highly recommend his „Alternative Workbook or How to pimp my practice room“, a tiny little book full of gems.
Yes, great read!
This is awesome! Thank you so much, Moses and Warren! Moses is awesome. I like his approach to recording a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it! Moses rules!
I’m a novice, but agree 100% with what Warren brought up about the floor Tom mic.
Marvellous! Thanks ever so much!
I love videos like this. Can’t wait to finish watching.
Thanks Bobby! Yes, this was a huge amount of fun!
Moses ist der Größte 🎉
Yes, he is!
Mind blowing, can't wait to try this
Hope you enjoy!
Magic Schneider!! 🤩 Can't wait for your Visit in the Transporterraum!!
He’s pretty marvellous isn’t he?
Have Moses and Trent Reznor ever worked together bc these drum sounds give me some NIN feelings in the best possible way. It’s far from imitation. It is shared aesthetic. Of course hip hop rules the world with these sample pack/beat packs but I’m hearing industrial glory mixed with some of the great aggrotech vibes of Germany. Loving the European focus lately. It turns out Europeans have a culture and have contributed to the great works of human art after all.
I'm not sure? It would be amazing if they did though!
Moses makes recording fun. His Alternative Workbook is great. I never record drums without a wurst now.
He’s absolutely wonderful! Huge fan of his!
Me neither, I’ve read it so many times. Since then, there’s no recording without the wurst.
@@cao77 Just wurst and overheads, in a pinch.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks ever so much!
One of my favourite videos so far from PLAP. Would love a further deep dive on Moses' editing techniques, perhaps as they get closer to the release of the pack? His drum ideas aren't too far from my own, but I got most of those tips from phone conversations with Glyn Johns 30 years ago, when I was but a young lad (who'd managed to crib his number from New Model Army's 'Slade The Leveller'). The best piece of advice: 'keep a tape measure handy'.
Thanks ever so much for sharing that! Very cool info indeed
I love Moses
Great energy
Inspiring and adductive enthusiasm
Very well said!
Its refreshing and inspiring to see a man with such a track record and still maintains this childlike enthusiasm and such an emotional bond with his craft and with the music
This guy hasn’t forgotten why he is doing what he is doing
I shared this clip with a young engineer I befriended recently he is 28 I will be 62 and he told me - Udi he reminds me of you…
I told him I consider this as a big compliment
Agreed 100%@@UdiKoomran we love Moses!
Awesome - Moses for President 🙂
Haha nice!
Insanely creative techniques, thanks Moses and Warren for sharing ❤❤❤
Glad you like them!
Very cool!
Thanks ever so much!
Moses is a Wizard ! Thank you for this fantastic lesson !
This was very fun! 😃
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ooooft the sounds you can get from one drum kit jeezooo I can’t wait to try some of this myself. Very cool 🔥
Yes, truly amazing!
Super creative dude, he has his own character. 🤘.
Yes, amazing talent!
What an enriching video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
listening over and over .. so entertaining .. inspiring .. da best!
Yes! Moses is very creative
What an enriching video, I like it!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
definitely gonna try this tomorrow in my studio!! Droom mics here we come!
YES! Such a wonderful idea
This was super inspiring, thank you!
Thanks ever so much!
That drum finish looks sick!
Yes, very cool!
One of the greatest !
Yes, great guy and huge talent
Fantastic, great approach with awesome results. Great video, thanks very much
Glad you enjoyed it Joey
Very cool! Can't wait to try a mono Droom and Vurst, maybe even the snareo!
Very cool!
I tried the “droom” technique in my last drum session after seeing him explain it in a different video and it really did make everything sound huge. It won’t work for every song, but it really surprised me!
Thanks for sharing that Paul!
Thank you Warren another great interview, that guy is awesome! thumbs up
Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed it
Oh man, I love Moses workflow and way of teaching / sharing his knowledge! So happy to see him on PLAP 😁
Couldn't agree more! Thanks Ady!
fantastically creative! Wow, very inspiring.
Agreed 100%! Thank you so much!
Very good. Thank you!!
Our pleasure! Moses rules
Awesome video! I love weird drum mic techniques - this is a great addition to my tool box! :)
Glad you liked it!
this is really awesome creative stuff!
Yes, very much so! Moses Rocks!
Wow! Great job showcasing MS! Being a drummer, these mic techniques are going to make me dangerous with my test equipment filters🎛️👍👍
Moses rules!!
Ok je garde l’idée! J’essaierai sur la prochaine prod en room
Marvellous!!
20:22 I couldn't agree more!
Really loved this,. amazing
Marvellous!
Thank you Moses, you are such an inspiration
Agreed 100%!
Very inspiring stuff!!..........I've always wanted to try a room mic that was close to the kit, but facing the opposite direction. I'm going to try it with my old SM7.
I'm prepping to do a drum session next month for the first time in 5yrs!.....and I'm needing some inspiration.........VOILA' !! 😊🙏
sounds so damn good, Thanks for this guys!
Thanks ever so much!
A leap into the future!
Yes, indeed
Wow I think he just solved my issues with having a crappy room sound, low ceilings, etc. with wurst and snareo technique. Now I just need more mics and inputs. The Droom technique sounds cool. I thought Blumlein was cool in front of a kit, but this is really exciting and I can’t wait to try this.
Yes! It's a great technique!
Moses is great!
He is amazing!
The German pronunciation of "Röde" blows my mind on how cool it sounds! 😎
Love the German O sound!
Well… it’s not that correct either. We don’t have the letter ø here in Germany. It’s Scandinavian. But it’s pronounced somewhat like our ö. 😁
@@M.Holland Yeah. Also it's Danish for "red".
@@CzyszyTo be fair, nobody can pronounce Danish words correctly 😅
Marvellous!@@M.Holland thanks for sharing!
41:20 hits like a ton of bricks! so cool!
Yes!!
FANTASTIC !!!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
One question: Moses says he ended up with the omni polar pattern for the SnareO, but then he uses the RODE NT5 Mics, which are cardioid - or can you switch polar patterns on those? Best regards and Moses rulez! 🙂
That's a good question! Maybe Moses can answer it here?
Genius guy !!
Yes, he certainly is!
love this guy!
Moses rules!
@@Producelikeapro definitely! Will you work with him for the Kult? I think he would fit in nicely there! For example he did the Kreator Album Hordes of Chaos, I would love to see a Kollaboration with him. LLtK! 🤘🏻
mindblowing...
Marvellous!
I'm a huge fan of Moses and applying his wurst micing technique on every drum's rec.
I've some questions for him :
- Aren't 441 mics are supercardioids and not hypercardioids ?
As i plan to use my telefunken M81 (supercardioids) for Drooms ;-)
- And aren't NT5 are cardioids or do you use NT-45 O omni capsule on its ?
Can't wait my next drum rec session to try your wunderbar creative techniques 🙂
Danke sehr !!!
Fascinating information!
Thanks ever so much!
great!!! Saludos desde Chile!
Thanks from the UK, US and France! Ha
For a moment I tought it was superior drummer mixer and I was like "finally they make it sound real" 😂
Haha wouldn't that be good!
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on RUclips!! So informative!! As a drummer I can only dream to work with this guy one day!
Wow, thanks!
Great as always! Amazing info here 🤘
Glad you think so!
Very Interesting!! i might steal some of those ideas :) Thank u guys very much!!
Please do!
MOSES 😍 many greetings from germany 🤘
Moses Rules!!
My god! This is a treasure!
Thanks ever so much!
Please forgive my ignorance and misunderstanding... When he is presenting the "Wurst" mic technique, is he saying "cheese bell"? Like a dish to keep cheese in?
Can someone politely explain his analogy? Thank you!
What point in the video does he say that? Thanks
@@Producelikeapro 3:20
“cheese dome”, in this example it basically means “dome”. 😊😊😊
@@markusreuter How does that relate to the microphone placement and the term "wurst"?
@@austinbridge He used the word "dome" ("sphere" may be a better term here) to refer to the capturing of the drum kit as a whole. And then he says the "wurst" is outside of that "sphere". BTW, the term "wurst" comes from the German word "verwursten", which means "to mangle".
Moses could make any major hip hop artist better. This guy is my favorite drum engineer. Steve Albini should take note.
Moses is hugely talented!
❤️ what a great guy
Yes! He certainly is!
😮
Absolute master! 🙏
Legend !!!🔥
Yes! He certainly is!!
Moses Schneider is on my Mount Rushmore
Marvellous!
I've seen videos of Sylvia Massy using some of the same teqchniques/mics. Did she pick them up from Moses? Super interesting!
Is there any kind of insulation or anything in those pegboard boxes behind the kit? I would love to build 2 of these for my room
what is the orangerie that he mentioned is it a reverb?
Good one warren😮
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
Hi Sara thank you very much! I'm also on the same path to expand consciousness and help others do the same. Do you have any advice for me?
I'd love to have The Human Pack for my sampling pleasure.
Elysia is making it!!❤
"...for zis extra bass zee love in Berlin so much, I invented zee In-Arsch mic technique. You take a SM57 and tell zee drummer to take off his pants..."
I prefer a single mono overhead mic, usually my modified Rode Nt2 in omni and I hit it with few compressors, none of which are compressing very heavily. I also avaoid SM 57s on snares... nothing wrong with them I just have others I prefer like my vintage AKG D190 E... get it real close to the shell.
Thanks for sharing!
Snario, drooms, wurst is best? The engineering is interesting!
Yes, great techniques, they all sound wonderful and Moses is a marvellous communicator!
I would love love love to see (hear) Moses and Matt Chamberlain work together.
Yes, that would be amazing!
I love a free thinker.
Agreed 100%!
Has anyone tried the SnareO with two dynamic omnis, instead of condensers?? And if so, did it work well??