it is very cringey to see a 31 year old trying to “humble” a 19 year old and calling sexual assault allegations tea. when even he was mad when the thing about his cat came out.
Except the thing with his cat was actually real. Who goes into that much detail about F-ing your cat as a “joke”. Not only does he do this but he’s also been caught on tape calling 6-years olds hot, claiming he would r*pe them all and tries to provide justification for pedophilia. That man disgusts me.
I tried justifying these as “jokes” for years. But if your “comedy” only consists of doing blackface, racially insensitive shit and sexually deprived shit,... That must say something about his warped views of racial issues and sexuality. There is something wrong with him for real
Froufrou Deluxe ewww really? Why on earth would he do that plus joking about not shower and wear the same clothes for weeks onwards.. his humour is actually gross
Shane literally knows how it feels to be labelled as a predator and yet he still continues to support people who labelled James as one, he should know how damaging this is.
@PAXtheREX dino those were disgusting jokes, he made them all the time and it wasn't like he was the only person in the world who made jokes like that in the world. it's not proof of anything, the only person that has a point here is the op
@@femalegays I think further proof is him supporting Tana's raunchy version of Jojo Siwa. And then wanted to back off after she received backlash for it but if no one called her out he would be all for it.
It's called RUclips 99% of its fake it's just like regular TV second off he was labeled a predator but a predator that's into bestiality not people so there's a difference and people could care less about the bestiality that's more of a laughed at topic then being some kind of sexual predator with a human even though both are disgusting...but ya fuq a cat and that title and recognition are earned.. and why do you really care in the first place again this is RUclips where there are shows created by people that are trying to get views and clicks.? You do understand reality TV on TV is not reality correct??? Wait do you think the Kardashians is a real show?ohhh noooo sweet heart nooo..😲😳😬😪...you thought "The Flava of Love" with Flava Flave was a documentary??!! Ddduuuuuuu wwwwwwhhhhhaaaaaaaa!!!
What Shane Dawson said about James Charles’s prior mental health was inconsiderate and insensitive. He then went on to talk about his own mental health, which is pretty selfish after he dismissed someone else’s mental health. Shane would rather call out James Charles because of his ego, but he would not call out Jeffree Star for the same thing? Also, let’s not forget that Shane Dawson could have been involved with Jeffree Star pressuring Tati Westbrook into making her video on James Charles.
Alejandro Spillari I’m still not completely defending Tati Westbrook for her actions, but at the time she was in a vulnerable state and could easily be taken advantage of mentally.
Angelique Elijah she was very emotional at the the time, when James promoted that other brand. Before her video she posted herself crying. That’s one of the reason she made a video
Personally I feel like she was manipulated. I know she made her decision but I think she was swayed. Shane and Jeffree emotion manipulate a lot. Especially Jeffree when he replies to people.
@@MaRyaYTOfficial Oh that, she literally lied for almost an hour. She claims she was emotional because James promoted SBH, but not her brand even though there is proof that he bought and promoted her vitamins more than once and she was tagged everytime he did. I agree J and Shane are manipulative, but she is not some weak minded distressed damsel. She was pissed, she was crying because she was pissed or knew what reaction her crying would cause or both. She also claims that James never talked to her and told her what happened, except oops, he actually did.
I just noticed this. How can he be so confident saying controversial things and then claim to have anxiety? You’d think he’d avoid commenting on things especially if it’s controversial.
I feel like people are forgetting that we're all human like,, it sounds really cliche but we're all the same. We shouldn't be putting other people on pedestals as if they can't do any wrong, it's just a recipe for disaster.
s s thank you I’m so tired of saying “he’s 19 he knew better !!” I’m like now if there was a grown ass man calling you a goddamn predator someone whom you looked up to and you thought valued you as a friend you would be hurt
@@cheerioskid I totally agree with that, we should not put people on pedestals because we all make mistakes. I'm fine with that narrative. The problem is that Jefree is constantly dragging other people for their mistakes but then expects to get away with horrible shit he does because "we all make mistakes".
So, they rather accuse a "teen" of being a predator, than just say "he's not really humble", like? Are you? Are you humble? Is Jeffree and Tati HUMBLE? I meannnn....
Jeffree is the ass who literally said that people not buying his merch during the current pandemic was messing with his life (this is the same man who has a massive channel and could make a shit ton just by posting) so I don't believe he's humble and then the way James is described in this apology seems to be echoing Jeffree himself (egocentric etc) and Tati just... no
@@50ksubscriberschillinghomie it's insane right? Calling it a slice of humble pie when his life was almost in ruins because of accusations with no grounds! This is sickening
Unsubbed from Shane. Unsubbed from Jeffree a while ago. James isn’t my favorite person but Shane defending Jeffree when he did the things everyone accused James of doing was gross.
i don’t understand why Shane brought James into this at all. that’s in the past. people wanted Shane to address why he was still friends with and supportive of Jeffree when so many bad things he has done have come to light recently
@@blipblop734 the lipstick Nazi thing, standing next to a Confederate flag, groping a straight man on camera without his consent, of course the racial slurs against black and Jewish people, fatshaming Trisha, there's a video of Jeffree making a severally drunk man roll down a staircase with his pants pulled down, and his overall hypocrisy
Wow the way Shane criticized James as a person but NOT JEFFREE’S attitude and behavior like WHAT? Shane if anything Jeffree needs the rest of that WHOLE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING HUMBLE PIE!!! 😒
shane is honestly just embarrassing himself. To bring it up a year later? To say that you don't want to get involved in drama but then proceed to call a whole group of people a list of names? sorry, no
to add to that, he's literally addressing drama that happened after saying he doesn't want to be involved in drama. just say that you don't want to be involved in the beauty community anymore period. don't adress the james charles and tati drama when it's no longer relevant.
@@lolhi188 But then what's his excuse for making millions from the make-up community and then dipping out? Just quickly making his nut, but don't want to ruin your brand by making it look like a cash grab. Pretend people are so toxic that you "Have to" dip out for your mental health.. He's pathetic, but let's not overlook the fact he's super calculated.
I'm not a big fan of James, but he didn't deserve this. This was not just a "slice of humble pie." It was genuinely f*cked up. Hearing Shane say that he's too sEnsiTive for this really pisses me off.
Has James’s even ever talked bad about them? He seems to have taken what happened really well, better than I would have. They are 30+, james was only 19. It’s really messed up
Also Shane saying “I’m done with the beauty world it’s ToO StrEsSfuL” like girl you weren’t even in it. He didn’t even post hardly anything with makeup since his pallet dropped. His collaboration with Jeffree was out of place and odd. If he was really into makeup he would have actually USED his own products.
MrBrxghtside The same drama he capitalized on for his pallet? Or was it the James Charles situation, where he promised to showcase it in his “docuseries” (I’ve seen Netflix shows with better production) yet never did? He’s only done when it’s stopped earning him a steady cash flow lol.
Yeah, he says James is too sensitive for this while simultaneously whining about beauty community being so toxic and bad for his mental health... It's makeup tutorials, Shane there are people that are dying
I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest RUclipsr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear hada
But Tati and James aren't the ones even bringing it up again. But everyone should unsubscribe from Jeffree and Shane though. Those 2 are poison to the beauty community.
He defiently didn't deserve to be falsely accused and almost lose his career just because Tati was ass hurt over him promoting her vitamin gummy competitor
Spooki yeah not taking any sides but the gummies or vitamins or whatever he promoted are a scam. They don’t help with anxiety or sleeping better and they are overpriced sugary sh*t. can’t speak on whether tatis brand is any better because I haven’t done research on it but sugar bear hair should not have ever been promoted yet alone to his young teenage audience. That being said, the fact that Shane and Jeffree have the audacity to say they did nothing wrong and yet manipulate people and expect their fans to roll over and agree with them is disgusting. I’m so glad they are finally being seen for what they are, ever since Shane released the tanacon video I’ve disliked him.
@@Firegirl483 I actually unsubscribed from her channel and didn't watch any videos of people testing out her products when they launched after I found out how much she just out right lied in her long af video.
I picture it as them all together jumping on a trampoline (James Charles) and nearly cracking the bottom out of the trampoline (JC being near suicide) while they got a nice jump off from it (they made MILLIONS). Thing is though, they jumped too high (they are now bleeding followers) and the trampoline is stronger than ever (JC not far from hitting 20m subs)
10:38 thats a really important point. James was a 19yo gay boy. He said multiple times before bye sister scandal that hes a virgin and that there were just a few gays in his school and almost all of them were bottoms and they were friends. He said he didnt have any experience with relationships and sexual stuff in highshool. So then he become a 19 yo gay boy without any experience who wanted to have a boyfriend but he had millions of followers and his dm were full of guys queerbaiting and cloutchasing. And just imagine that youre talking with someone for a long time and theyre telling you theyre bi and theyre meeting up with you and youre making out for an hour and then theyre saying theyre straight and making a video saying youre the worst kisser and recording a phonecall with you without your consent and somehow youre known as a predator and cancelled and then people are coming out with screenshots of you dm them "hey youre so cute" and saying theyre traumatised by that.
This comment is so important. It's incredible how much all of this is overlooked. I'm not really a fan of James Charles, but this whole thing hurts my heart so much for him. He didn't deserve this.
@@punchdrunkassassin That really sucks, cause Im not a a fan of him and I was sitting there like "there is no proof so Im waiting for his side" and I was actually worrying hes gonna hurt himself. While so many of his "fans" left him
This was my point exactly when all the drama happened - It doesn't matter about age (not to mention that he was 19yo at the time) if you have no expericance with something your not going to be great at it. For example if you have never done makeup before you not going to be great at it! I think its also interesting that Jeffree came at James for 'liking straight boys' yet he has songs ABOUT HIM HIMSELF LIKING STRAIGHT BOYS, i just thought that it was so hypocritical. I also disagree with the statement that ''oh Jeffree has changed since his teenage years,'' people really expecpect James to have changed when they did not give him time too - yet Jeffree was the same age as him hen he made the same mistakes. Also imagine how that has affected James and how it will continue to affect James, once that has happened with the baiting and such your going to have doubts in every other relationship and that could cause conflict - its literally so sad. Not to mention that some people still believe that James is a predator because of JS comments
Also so many gay guys (especially bottoms), go through the phase of wanting straight masculine guys. Not sure why everyone was in such disbelief James' into that. He'll learn like the rest of us.
@@frostbitegaming3289 exactly i feel like people see people on the internet and go digging into their personal life - is like just because they are on the internet so that means they cant learn lessons like the rest of us - they have to immediately be mature because of an 'impressionable audience' like excuse me, people forget that the youtubers can be impressionable too!
He should have carved himself out a piece of that humble pie. They bullied a teenager to the point of thinking about suicide simply because James was winning their stupid popularity contest. Shane surrounds himself with terrible people (Jeffree, Tana, Trisha) and is shocked that he's surrounded by drama. Screw him.
It's very clear that Tati, a 38 year old woman was envious of a boy twice as successful as her. Let's be honest, nobody fucking knew who she was until this drama. Jeffree went with it because he wanted to destroy the competetion, and Shane was tied to him like a little dog, so he went as well. Fun
I hate how he's always portrayed himself as a super caring individual who tried to show the other side. He did it with Tana and Jake Paul. But when they consider James Charles as problematic, Shane doesn't bother to investigate or give advice. He straight up excused James of being a predator, which Shane should empathize with considering he's been accused of pedophilia and bestiality in the past.
James is a self obsessed, inappropriate, judgy, immature, brat. Tell them young before they are older and think its okay to be like that forever. I'd be going off on him no matter how old I was. If he can handle a company and millions of dollars I think he can handle people telling him to take a step down from his high horse
SIRENity Addams Shane always complains that he’s poor yet lives in a fucking mansion 🤒 like make it make sense bruv mansion+bff and connections with rich people = poor
Jeffree: *knew and toured with an actual child predator and pretended he didn’t know when he tweeted he did* Shane: that’s just Jeffree lol I love him James: *acts like a dick with a huge ego, falsely accused of being a predator* Shane: James isn’t innocent and needs to be humbled MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
Bro imagine 2 extremely influential men and one woman in their 30s trying to "humble" a 19 year old boy still learning to be a functioning adult in society while also learning how to cope with immense fame while he's still developing because of VITAMINS. Oh wait
I may not like james but he really doesnt deserve this.. no one his age does honestly. (Unless they really really are that bad. But from what I see he's just trying to figure shit out..)
And what gives THEM the right to decide another person needs to be "humbled"? If they truly thought he was a predator, why didn't they contact authorities?
I was about to say I was a big fan of Shane once he was doing his food vids and onward but since he’s been involved w Jeffrey he’s literally explaining what he’s become in his statement
So Shane is commenting on life choices that James made at 19 while he did blackface and said racist things at an OLDER age than any of James’ bad decisions? Maybe Shane should be quiet...
raishea 24 Wait, no he didn’t. He DID, however, share his very fucked up and far from normal views of pedophiles. But, the dude was molested as a young kid so I imagine that could very easily mess with your opinion on the matter. Not defending him, just simply stating the facts. He’s definitely made some awful statements about his views on pedophilia, but just to be clear, he’s never once said that he was one.
@@johnseckinger9523 he admitted to it. The person you replied to didn't say he said he was a pedo. He did admit to googling naked baby which makes him a pedo. Period.
crazy_ cat_mama If this were just some normal Joe we were talking about, I’d say “yep, you don’t google that unless you have pedophilic urges or are an active pedophile, or are working as law enforcement trying to bust the people putting that out there”, but I think that context is important when making a HUGE accusation like saying someone is without a doubt a pedophile. He was an edgy RUclipsr/entertainer who also was molested as a child. It’s why I think painting the accusations against Shane Dawson as an open/shut case is jumping the gun quite a bit. If there was any evidence whatsoever that he had ever physically touched a child, this would be such a different discussion. But there’s not. All we have are old videos where he says weird shit, and a few times to children. Look, if something changes, I’ll grab my pitchforks and demand he be held nothing sort of accountable, but there is clearly no real evidence that Shane’s committed any crimes other than him saying either really twisted thoughts about pedophilia or trying to be edgy to gain popularity.
John Seckinger Being molested as a child doesn’t give you free reign to defend pedophiles or google pics of naked babies. A very large percentage of pedophiles were molested as children. It doesn’t excuse them. He could be a pedophile and never touch a kid. That’s not a necessary determining factor.
its embarrassing that Tati is almost twice James Charles' age, and yet she created accusations without any valid proof, almost destroyed his career, and he came back and shut her down at 19. it's insane and childish what Tati did.
Really all Tati accused James of was flirting with a waiter and using inappropriate language infront of her family. Jeffree was the one that put out tweets about James being a predator and "being a danger to society". Tati never made those accusations. Jeffree was also the one that claimed he had proof, which he never did 🙄
@@ashtree8028 That old ass gutter snipe made a video, edited, and loaded it to the internet. Stop letting those pretty white woman tears fool you. She needs her slice plated with Shane and JS.
@@ladycheyne5607 she did get backlash and I'm not saying she didn't deserve the criticism she got, but the fact still remains she didn't falsely accuse James of being a predator. Jeffree did! Jeffree deserves the blame for that, but of course he's going to try to pin it on someone else.
I’ve lost so much respect for Shane. I stopped watching his content years ago but he is just so problematic and manipulative. He REFUSES to take accountability for his part in nearly destroying a teens life with false Accusations. I’m personally beyond over how he’s been acting over this.
Chels Murphy exactly, he’s done the same shameful things for years, that have ended people’s careers back in the early 2000’s and even now. All because he’s put on this persona of being this naïve, innocent man-child who is ‘too pure to be bad’. He’s an adult and needs to be held accountable. It’s only 10 years later but that’s better than nothing, I guess
So I'm not the only one!! In regards to bobby burns he still got backlash even after he left shane dawson, but shane calling him a bully and using the lie detector made him look bad. Accidental or not, bobby's whole career was a line of dominoes, and meeting shane made the first one fall. I honestly think that shane did purposely ruin this kids career behind the scenes.
Yes, also Jeffree wants to be forgiven for actions at a younger age yet is holding James to a higher standard. I have always disliked Jeffree Star, just seems cruel & shallow. P.S. Love your screen name.
And also both Jefree and Shane were extremely hypocritical. Jefree has done exactly what they accused James of doing and Shane.... theres literally recorded proof of him defending pedifelia comparing it to a foot fetish. He also called a child that he thought was to young to have a phone sexy. Not to mention they both have racist past. Shane had many video where he literally did black f@ce. Thats disgusting
Wasnt his Shane Glossin channel supposed to be his makeup channel? Crazy how as soon Jeffree told him he could make a lot of money off of a palette, all of a sudden he was so passionate about it, but I havent seen any since his makeup released
"I didn't do this for money" Okay so the guy who built his brand on being gross and poor has a genuine interest in makeup and beauty...? Hm... And he only did makeup stuff when it related to his palate, the second channel looks like its just a lite version of his normal channel.
@@matthewrhett2319 I remember someone calling him out for seemingly losing interest in makeup after it released, and he replied with a picture of the Shane Glossin channel, saying he'd post makeup there, but there's nothing lmao
You know what else really annoyed me? Shane received tons and tons of PR. I always felt weird about it but thought the companies are just being supportive. Now I think about all these MUAs that are talented and so passionate about makeup that can't get on PR lists even when they really deserve it. Shane did a few eyeshadow looks and then got a bunch of free makeup?
I no longer support shane dawson or jeffree, However I am a fan of rylands sister morgan because she unfollowed jeffree in this climate and I stan a queen with morals.
the 4 dislikes are jeffree shane tati (for obvious reasons) and gary because you told him not to eat plastic which as we can tell is his true passion and you’re just crushing his dreams
Jeffree and Shane made racist remarks in their 20s but it’s ok cause they were “YOunG” and didn’t “know better” but James made mistakes at 19 and they still call him out.
@@Firegirl483 It's like he opened a gay slang dictionary and used as many words as possible. Nobody really speaks like that, it was just plain painful and awkward to read.
bruh i’m 21. 19 year olds are definitely kids. i know im not very far but yes i can 100% my mentality was definitely not as developed as it is today. granted i know my responsibilities and right from wrong but life hit me like a train lmao
I'm 19. When the drama happened I was about 18 and I thought, "Oh, James should be able to handle it, he's an adult." I now look back and think, "Oh, my God. That was really horrible. He was SO young."
I'm 35 and there is no way I would be hanging out with an 18-19 year old and treating them as a friend. I have a niece and nephews his age, and all thier friends call me Auntie and that's as far as our relationship goes, they ask me for advice we don't hang out.
“Did I know she was thinking about making that video? Yes.” That right there says a lot. If you’re truly friends with someone you’ll call them out on their bullshit not because you dislike them but because you don’t want them doing stupid shit. Also, he KNEW a 19 y/o would get backlash and harassed for the video-and whether he would’ve predicted that James would’ve gotten suicidal, that shouldn’t matter, and he should’ve thought about that. Shane is shocked when he gets drama thrown at him when he doesn’t care to speak up about making such vile accusations against basically a CHILD. Shane, it doesn’t matter that you didn’t orchestra it, but you also willingly chose to not say anything about this horrible event. Stop acting like a child, especially when one is way more fucking mature about it when he’s on the receiving end
lmaoo says the one who screamed the n word and thought blackface was hilarious, anything shane says I don’t listen to he’s discusting and no one talks about it.
@@saram3449 I agree that Shane's a bad person, but like those comments were years ago, when the internet wasn't as sensitive, and they accepted those edgy jokes a lot more. Still shouldn't have said them though
John well still, just like the person above said, he was an adult.,,an adult should know better than to succumb to “edgy humour” adults have no business speaking about children in that manner
I tried to watch Shane’s “I have a demon in my house”. After 10 minutes of watching 3 grown assed men giggle and act like immature, slightly dim witted (sorry preteen girls) 10 - 12 year old girls I actually got a headache. Seriously. I have an 11 year old niece and she’s not this stupidly annoying. I just wanted to see a ghost or demon... not get a migraine!!!!! BTW I appreciate your honest commentary. Never change!!
He’s 30(?) acting like 12. This is why his fans are blindly defending him. Because he act like a fucking naive baby even tho he’s definitely not like this when the cameras are not rolling. He’s manipulative and fake.
I honestly just miss his videos where it was just conspiracy theories and looking for some spooky shit. I don't hate him, but I don't like him either anymore. And all this drama, is just not helping him at all. I miss his old content, but sorry for going on a rant.
Shane saying "I didn't do this for money, I just don't wanna be a part of the community anymore" is like saying "I'm not racist, I just don't like black people"
Honestly when I read "I need to go back to what I was doing in 2005" I was like, does he mean blackface and the n word and black face again and ghetto characters? lmao
Love how the people who say they made mistakes when they were teens (such as blackface and racist comments) are trying to tear down a teen now. Sad cause Shane’s channel used to be my favorite . Sad I used to be such a big fan
What bothers me is how mental health is being used like a get out of jail free card as well as being weaponized. I’m very pro mental health but this doesn’t seem authentic
I wish I could unfollow Shane again, but I already unfollowed him back when I found out he was doing his series with Jeffree. Looks like I made the right choice. 🤷🏼♀️
Im glad more people are calling out Shane. He's a fake, manipulative sellout. He's not the "soft uwu relatable king" his stans act like he is, he's a gross man in the 30s who cant take accountability for his actions, and when he's called out, says he's "too senseitive for it."
@@jessicavasquez6752 Exactly! He said he was too sensitive for the negativity. James got like 100 times the amount of negativity. People thought, and some still do, that he was literally a sexual predator at 19 years old. But hey guys, Shane being called out for his actions is hurting his feelings, so go easy on him, because he's sensitive.
Ditto! I've disliked him for years. The misinformation and toxicity he spreads in the mental health community is disgusting. I've met so many people who idolize Shane and his content and use their mental health, particularly anxiety, in similar ways as him for excuses and attention. He's a piece of shit and always has been.
@@milkhorns I used to be a huge fan of him. I was one of those annoying fans defending his every action, and I'm so fucking embarrassed. He KNOWS he has a toxic fanbase full of preteens with that unhealthy mentality that he can do no wrong, and he's okay with it because they keep him relevant.
@@GodChaotic truth truth truth. Everything he does is for money and clout and is tailored specifically to bring a young audience in. Mental health has always been a big part of his psyche and its been insane to watch this whole situation over the years get more and more insane. He made himself one of the faces of the RUclips mental health community but since then he has: - Profited off the suffering or bad actions of people who have mental health issues. - Profited and made light of Eugenia Cooney, dropped her as soon as she wasn't bringing in views. - Made massively clickbaity content about or alluring to mental health of others for views. - Used his relatively minor mental health issues to excuse himself of literally awful shit, bullying behavior, past racist characters, and creepy behaviour. - Admitted to not giving a shit if a 19 year old he bullied had suicidal thoughts. Feel free to add to the list. I hate this man. I hate his loyal following. I hate how he uses mental health to demonize, use, and take down others, but uses it to make him the sad wittle victiwm. I remember when I used to get flamed in comment sections for hating on RUclipss golden boy, and I'm so glad that people are realizing what a disgusting, predatory sellout Shane Dawson really is 🐷🐷🐷
They have a massive following BECAUSE of all this petty shit. Watching stupid people dealing with stupid situations is entertaining. It’s why commentary channels are so popular as well. There are gurus out there who are much more talented who have a much smaller following solely because they know how to mind their own business.
Why do people still listen to michael jackson music?Why do people admire the mona lisa? its the same answer the art/content created can be divorced from the creator.Jeffere i believe simply just has in terms of volume the most make up reviews and price doesn't matter to him if its a brand you want to know about jeffere probably has a video on it and most of them are highly informative.
@@rorythompson5410 small brain cant handle big words? sorry hun, here I'll put it in simple words for you "shane racist, sexist, shouldn't be popular" if that helps you any
He did knew.. have you watched Kam Lester and Ashley Kyle videos? His statement contradicts evidence, and evidence is stronger than testimony. All evidence so far points at Jeffree and Shane planning everything long before Tati's video.
Bru his only good videos were his conspiracy theory ones, I stopped watching when he started tryna make me "understand" those weird ass fucken yt pricks lol.
Yeah none of his documentaries have any actual facts. Just accusing people of being sociopaths, and sympathizing with people who did bad things without holding them accountable. All of his documentaries are just about him being way too naive and becoming friends with the “enemy” in the first five seconds and then it’s just all lies from there.
Bruh we say 'putting him on blast' like they didn't accuse James of being a PREDATOR and a DANGER TO SOCIETY like ..... they didn't just expose some cute texts they made serious claims
The more I stare at this drama the more my brain rots. It's all ridiculous and could've been easily prevented if Tati talked to James in private n shit and Jeffree wasn't slimey but y'know tEa SiS
In a way, if the adults actually acted maturely and had a good conversation offline, the Dramaggedon that was unearthed recently should have never happened. But no. 😩
Shane Dawson acts like a 5 year old 90% of the time. I haven't forgotten the weird remarks about kids and I consider him an accomplice to Eugenia Cooney's illness and abuse, so no, I do not think he's a harmless idiot
Jennifer Norman she went to rehab for anorexia she was really really bad to the pint you could see her bones through her skin. She finally got help and after she returned to RUclips Shane did a “series” with her and that was the last time I really watched anything of his. It disturbed me.. I just don’t see how you could put your friend who just came home from rehab in that kind of environment..
Shane dawson does not deserve to talk when he friends with someone like Trisha paytas and Jeffrey star. Birds of a feather flock together. He needs to be real and hold them accountable. He always tries to minimize the damage his friends have done and shift the blame
I agree with you , but don’t you think it would be hard to cut someone who’s like family to you out ? And being friends with someone doesn’t really mean that you support whatever shit they do . Just an opinion no hate
tamara sky bro she used to makes videos talking about how she doesn’t believe dogs have brains. its a tactic for money & it works, weve been trying to cancel her, but it only gives her the attention she wants. Jeffree was friends with a pedophile and defended his actions, and thats only the tip of the iceberg. Jeffree needs to be gone first, then trisha.
“I need to get back to why I started youtube back in 2005 and that was to make things that bring me joy (not drama)” hun, weren’t you doing blackface and saying the n-word in those videos?
I would really like to see that. But then again he may get a huge hate wave and maybe even have the video taken down (not sure if itll actually happen, that just may be why he hasnt yet)
Omg im soo fat ugly poor and quirky accusing a kiddo that could be my son of crimes he didnt commit. Me and my three friends are soooo quirky and niceeeee. Feel sorry for me even though im tots not the victim yassss tati snapped slay queen. Ok shena
@B.R. V. true, however Jeffree and Tati are old enough to be his parents, and overall, they should have called his actual parents if they had such concerns about his behavior
Wait so Jeffree constantly starts drama with others because he's jealous, he has scandals with actual proof of him being shitty and his whole thing is kinda flaunting his money and success yet Shane is friends with him, and yet he decides James, a young adult whos starting out and trying to find his way in society (whos made mistakes, as everyone does) needs to be humbled despite being so much younger. And honestly even if he did need to be 'humbled,' bringing out false accusations that nearly ruined his career was a terrible thing to do, it's not humbling it's just straight up shitty and hypocritical. I'm not a fan of James but what Jeffree, Shane and Tati done to him was just shitty and they don't deserve to get away with that shit.
isnt it funny how when you look at shane’s and jeffree’s pasts (aka when they were in their 20’s), they did horrible things on camera yet they still like to say that it doesn’t matter because that was in the past but when james was accused of sexual assault without any proof at the age of 19, they thought he was big enough to be bullied by the world
This has nothing to do with the James Charles scandal but let’s not forget the racist Shane and Jeffree Shane black faced and Jeffree said slurs and so did Shane bring light to this cancel both no matter their power
Bro shane literally called a 6 year old sexy and googled naked babies he's a pedophile why does everyone ignore that just because he uses the 'im sensitive' bullshit or the 'i have anxiety' he always says the same shit and everyone believes him
@@random_2965 he didn't do that but okay. I listened to the podcast and it was a dark joke. Jokes in poor taste are still jokes. He's apologized for his past fuck ups. Why even bring up past stuff that doesn't matter anymore?
Shane already apologized for this shit plus alot of mainstream comedians made the exact same mistake shane made regardless but jeffree has too much shitty stuff to apologize for anyway. If jeffree apologize for one of the things he did wring in his past people will dig up more then just say he is apologizing because he got caught not because he matured which in jeffree case i doubt
@@naneki1992 Yes, i know i shouldn't have brought it up but no one actually knows if it's a joke only he does and after all the bullshit he's pulled how is anyone supposed to know if he was actually joking or not? If he's capable of bullying a 19 year old boy into a dark state what else is he capable of? in my opinion he's a 30 year old man who cries and complains everytime someone points fingers at him eventhough he does it to other people
@@JohnCena-yy7wk right, i feel like he cant make me laugh when its him alone like he needs someone with him to make it somewhat funny, garrett always had me rollin but shane was just "im so fat" "im too poor for that" "omg ME" "EW" like just stale as fuck lol
@@JohnCena-yy7wk I think it's because he is uninspired and unmotivated when it comes to humor and he defaults to self depreciation in his videos when he is actually funnier outside of his channel like on Ryland channel where he would say something funny or do something funny
When the day comes that Jeffree throws Shane under the bus that statement is going to be thrown back into Shane's face, "what do you expect he's Jeffree f@#king Star!"
it is very cringey to see a 31 year old trying to “humble” a 19 year old and calling sexual assault allegations tea. when even he was mad when the thing about his cat came out.
Except the thing with his cat was actually real. Who goes into that much detail about F-ing your cat as a “joke”. Not only does he do this but he’s also been caught on tape calling 6-years olds hot, claiming he would r*pe them all and tries to provide justification for pedophilia. That man disgusts me.
I tried justifying these as “jokes” for years. But if your “comedy” only consists of doing blackface, racially insensitive shit and sexually deprived shit,... That must say something about his warped views of racial issues and sexuality. There is something wrong with him for real
What about his cat?
Cierra Madrigal He said he ejaculated on his cat
Froufrou Deluxe ewww really? Why on earth would he do that plus joking about not shower and wear the same clothes for weeks onwards.. his humour is actually gross
Shane literally knows how it feels to be labelled as a predator and yet he still continues to support people who labelled James as one, he should know how damaging this is.
He doesn't care,Shane is fake asf
@PAXtheREX dino those were disgusting jokes, he made them all the time and it wasn't like he was the only person in the world who made jokes like that in the world. it's not proof of anything, the only person that has a point here is the op
@@femalegays I think further proof is him supporting Tana's raunchy version of Jojo Siwa.
And then wanted to back off after she received backlash for it but if no one called her out he would be all for it.
Except Shane is a predator
It's called RUclips 99% of its fake it's just like regular TV second off he was labeled a predator but a predator that's into bestiality not people so there's a difference and people could care less about the bestiality that's more of a laughed at topic then being some kind of sexual predator with a human even though both are disgusting...but ya fuq a cat and that title and recognition are earned.. and why do you really care in the first place again this is RUclips where there are shows created by people that are trying to get views and clicks.? You do understand reality TV on TV is not reality correct??? Wait do you think the Kardashians is a real show?ohhh noooo sweet heart nooo..😲😳😬😪...you thought "The Flava of Love" with Flava Flave was a documentary??!! Ddduuuuuuu wwwwwwhhhhhaaaaaaaa!!!
What Shane Dawson said about James Charles’s prior mental health was inconsiderate and insensitive. He then went on to talk about his own mental health, which is pretty selfish after he dismissed someone else’s mental health. Shane would rather call out James Charles because of his ego, but he would not call out Jeffree Star for the same thing? Also, let’s not forget that Shane Dawson could have been involved with Jeffree Star pressuring Tati Westbrook into making her video on James Charles.
Alejandro Spillari I’m still not completely defending Tati Westbrook for her actions, but at the time she was in a vulnerable state and could easily be taken advantage of mentally.
@@damonsonnier34 What vunerable state?
Angelique Elijah she was very emotional at the the time, when James promoted that other brand. Before her video she posted herself crying. That’s one of the reason she made a video
Personally I feel like she was manipulated. I know she made her decision but I think she was swayed. Shane and Jeffree emotion manipulate a lot. Especially Jeffree when he replies to people.
@@MaRyaYTOfficial Oh that, she literally lied for almost an hour. She claims she was emotional because James promoted SBH, but not her brand even though there is proof that he bought and promoted her vitamins more than once and she was tagged everytime he did.
I agree J and Shane are manipulative, but she is not some weak minded distressed damsel.
She was pissed, she was crying because she was pissed or knew what reaction her crying would cause or both.
She also claims that James never talked to her and told her what happened, except oops, he actually did.
shane: says something controversial
gets backlash
also Shane: I have anxiety
I aM tOo sEnSiTivE foR tHis UwU
I just noticed this. How can he be so confident saying controversial things and then claim to have anxiety? You’d think he’d avoid commenting on things especially if it’s controversial.
@@nycpanic mental health card always work on his followers
ella ryan every time I do something offensive and dumb I’ll blame it on my anxiety lol
I like how now that Shane’s mental health is on the line he is done, but when James’ mental health was crumbling down it ddnt matter. Nice!
Right?! So much for all the mental health awareness stuff he'd done for himself but once someone else is going through something...crickets.
Sock Gremlin he’s kinda selfish right?
I'm shocked it took so long for people to see Shane Dawson is not an innocent person
And I’m sure you were there for it all
I like James Charles
Shane: (Makes a horrible comment)
>Gets backlash
Also Shane: *Confused Pikachu face*
Also Shane: 'continues his I'm so poor and innocent act'
Yeah dont call him out for being a terrible person, he's too sensitive for it guys
• Wanna See My Shot Glass Collection • LMAOOOO right
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dude ure here too what the hell???
Just because he's Jefree f*ing Star he shouldn't be held to the same standard as us other mere mortals? Guess so
I feel like people are forgetting that we're all human like,, it sounds really cliche but we're all the same. We shouldn't be putting other people on pedestals as if they can't do any wrong, it's just a recipe for disaster.
Shane giving Jeffree a pass because he's Jeffree is like saying "boys will be boys" when they do something wrong.
s s thank you I’m so tired of saying “he’s 19 he knew better !!” I’m like now if there was a grown ass man calling you a goddamn predator someone whom you looked up to and you thought valued you as a friend you would be hurt
@@cheerioskid I totally agree with that, we should not put people on pedestals because we all make mistakes. I'm fine with that narrative. The problem is that Jefree is constantly dragging other people for their mistakes but then expects to get away with horrible shit he does because "we all make mistakes".
this is the exact thing Alizee said (not tryin to be rude i think its funny)
“Am I asking myself easy questions to distract from and minimize my part in all of this? Yes.”
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Exactly, he was kind of manipulating the questions to fit his narrative as well
Like Jo Bennett once said ‘Oh, stop asking yourself easy questions so you can look like a genius.’
And some of them werent even true!
So, they rather accuse a "teen" of being a predator, than just say "he's not really humble", like? Are you? Are you humble? Is Jeffree and Tati HUMBLE? I meannnn....
Jeffree is the ass who literally said that people not buying his merch during the current pandemic was messing with his life (this is the same man who has a massive channel and could make a shit ton just by posting) so I don't believe he's humble and then the way James is described in this apology seems to be echoing Jeffree himself (egocentric etc) and Tati just... no
imagine thinking that because James was depressed, so depressed that he was close to thinking about suicide was a piece of humble pie.
Aneisha must’ve been extremely bratty but like Shane calls Jeffree just being Jeffree that’s JamesJUST being James…
He wasn’t close to thinking about suicide. He DID think about suicide
Dude I didn't even know that Shane had said anything like this i don't use Twitter to be honest I'm unsubscribing
@@50ksubscriberschillinghomie it's insane right? Calling it a slice of humble pie when his life was almost in ruins because of accusations with no grounds! This is sickening
Akira Rivera Money doesn't mean happiness. He may have a lot of money but the whole world was against him
Unsubbed from Shane. Unsubbed from Jeffree a while ago. James isn’t my favorite person but Shane defending Jeffree when he did the things everyone accused James of doing was gross.
@Jenfletcher56 woah
Thank you omg u say this on Twitter and suddenly it’s controversial and radical, the stand will come foru
Jenfletcher56 Jeffree is the Onision of the beauty world. One day he’ll become as irrelevant as onion boy.
Sinetria Laster Plenty of other social media sites where you don’t get bashed for not liking them :). Reddit for example.
Who cares
i don’t understand why Shane brought James into this at all. that’s in the past. people wanted Shane to address why he was still friends with and supportive of Jeffree when so many bad things he has done have come to light recently
Evidently because Shane knew Tati and Jeffree were gonna make videos on James, and Shane let it happen
He is trying to avert the attention from the real problem
Thats what this was supposed to be about?? Damn he's really trying to avoid this...
I dislike Jeffrey star because of his use of racial slurs, but what other stuff has come to light? I’m out of the loop
@@blipblop734 the lipstick Nazi thing, standing next to a Confederate flag, groping a straight man on camera without his consent, of course the racial slurs against black and Jewish people, fatshaming Trisha, there's a video of Jeffree making a severally drunk man roll down a staircase with his pants pulled down, and his overall hypocrisy
Shane, himself, became a drama channel 2 years ago.
Difference is that he starts the drama, which is even worse lol
Shane has been in a silent drama with Onision for years. And he loves drama till it turns on him then he hides.
@@Wild-Moonchild and now Onision is defending Shane
@@Duckybacca bro onion be going back and forth with defending Shane and everything else, just wait, he'll turn around again
Rose onion doesn’t count, that thing doesnt have enough brain cells to make a coherent opinion
Wow the way Shane criticized James as a person but NOT JEFFREE’S attitude and behavior like WHAT? Shane if anything Jeffree needs the rest of that WHOLE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING HUMBLE PIE!!! 😒
Kyle Q Jeffrey made Shane MILLIONS.... it would be horrible if Shane trash talked Jeffrey
Share that pie with Trisha Paytas
And Onision. Not sure if they're still friends, but it reigns true.
shane is honestly just embarrassing himself. To bring it up a year later? To say that you don't want to get involved in drama but then proceed to call a whole group of people a list of names? sorry, no
to add to that, he's literally addressing drama that happened after saying he doesn't want to be involved in drama. just say that you don't want to be involved in the beauty community anymore period. don't adress the james charles and tati drama when it's no longer relevant.
@@lolhi188 But then what's his excuse for making millions from the make-up community and then dipping out? Just quickly making his nut, but don't want to ruin your brand by making it look like a cash grab. Pretend people are so toxic that you "Have to" dip out for your mental health.. He's pathetic, but let's not overlook the fact he's super calculated.
people are exposing him and showing his true colours 😍
I'm sorry, this has nothing to do with anything, but digging the name and profile pic. Gave me a good old fashioned laugh. 😁
Emmy Swordhand aw thanks ahahaha glad i could make someone laugh
I'm not a big fan of James, but he didn't deserve this. This was not just a "slice of humble pie." It was genuinely f*cked up. Hearing Shane say that he's too sEnsiTive for this really pisses me off.
Has James’s even ever talked bad about them? He seems to have taken what happened really well, better than I would have.
They are 30+, james was only 19. It’s really messed up
Also Shane saying “I’m done with the beauty world it’s ToO StrEsSfuL” like girl you weren’t even in it. He didn’t even post hardly anything with makeup since his pallet dropped. His collaboration with Jeffree was out of place and odd. If he was really into makeup he would have actually USED his own products.
@@rainethecloud pretty sure by "beauty world is too stressful" he meant all the drama and shade in the beauty community
MrBrxghtside The same drama he capitalized on for his pallet? Or was it the James Charles situation, where he promised to showcase it in his “docuseries” (I’ve seen Netflix shows with better production) yet never did? He’s only done when it’s stopped earning him a steady cash flow lol.
Yeah, he says James is too sensitive for this while simultaneously whining about beauty community being so toxic and bad for his mental health... It's makeup tutorials, Shane there are people that are dying
Wait... has the Tati vs James drama resurfaced? Oh God, here we go again
I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest RUclipsr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear hada
CJ: ah shit, here we go again
But Tati and James aren't the ones even bringing it up again. But everyone should unsubscribe from Jeffree and Shane though. Those 2 are poison to the beauty community.
@@AxxLAfriku why do you have two girls man that's messed up.
H3H3 vs Keemstar was shit and If This shitshow comes up again Then Ion know what I'll do
He defiently didn't deserve to be falsely accused and almost lose his career just because Tati was ass hurt over him promoting her vitamin gummy competitor
Yeah. Again I may not like james all that much (just dont like makeup that's all) but he didnt deserve this
@@spooki62 plus he actually had promoted her brand about a dozen times
Spooki yeah not taking any sides but the gummies or vitamins or whatever he promoted are a scam. They don’t help with anxiety or sleeping better and they are overpriced sugary sh*t. can’t speak on whether tatis brand is any better because I haven’t done research on it but sugar bear hair should not have ever been promoted yet alone to his young teenage audience. That being said, the fact that Shane and Jeffree have the audacity to say they did nothing wrong and yet manipulate people and expect their fans to roll over and agree with them is disgusting. I’m so glad they are finally being seen for what they are, ever since Shane released the tanacon video I’ve disliked him.
@@Firegirl483 I actually unsubscribed from her channel and didn't watch any videos of people testing out her products when they launched after I found out how much she just out right lied in her long af video.
Career? He almost lost his life, hs almost killed himself
Shane: *gets a little bit of criticism*
Shane: “i’M tOo sEnsItivE”
James: *almost kills himself*
Shane: “hE NeEds a sLiCe oF humBLe pIE”
literally lmaoo it's sickening
James isn’t that good either
@@andipatel5044
Still, he didn’t deserve it.
The fact that 3 grown ass adults in their 30's trying so hard to take down a 19 year old is so pathetic and scary at the same time
I picture it as them all together jumping on a trampoline (James Charles) and nearly cracking the bottom out of the trampoline (JC being near suicide) while they got a nice jump off from it (they made MILLIONS). Thing is though, they jumped too high (they are now bleeding followers) and the trampoline is stronger than ever (JC not far from hitting 20m subs)
10:38 thats a really important point. James was a 19yo gay boy. He said multiple times before bye sister scandal that hes a virgin and that there were just a few gays in his school and almost all of them were bottoms and they were friends. He said he didnt have any experience with relationships and sexual stuff in highshool. So then he become a 19 yo gay boy without any experience who wanted to have a boyfriend but he had millions of followers and his dm were full of guys queerbaiting and cloutchasing. And just imagine that youre talking with someone for a long time and theyre telling you theyre bi and theyre meeting up with you and youre making out for an hour and then theyre saying theyre straight and making a video saying youre the worst kisser and recording a phonecall with you without your consent and somehow youre known as a predator and cancelled and then people are coming out with screenshots of you dm them "hey youre so cute" and saying theyre traumatised by that.
This comment is so important. It's incredible how much all of this is overlooked. I'm not really a fan of James Charles, but this whole thing hurts my heart so much for him. He didn't deserve this.
@@punchdrunkassassin That really sucks, cause Im not a a fan of him and I was sitting there like "there is no proof so Im waiting for his side" and I was actually worrying hes gonna hurt himself. While so many of his "fans" left him
This was my point exactly when all the drama happened - It doesn't matter about age (not to mention that he was 19yo at the time) if you have no expericance with something your not going to be great at it. For example if you have never done makeup before you not going to be great at it! I think its also interesting that Jeffree came at James for 'liking straight boys' yet he has songs ABOUT HIM HIMSELF LIKING STRAIGHT BOYS, i just thought that it was so hypocritical. I also disagree with the statement that ''oh Jeffree has changed since his teenage years,'' people really expecpect James to have changed when they did not give him time too - yet Jeffree was the same age as him hen he made the same mistakes. Also imagine how that has affected James and how it will continue to affect James, once that has happened with the baiting and such your going to have doubts in every other relationship and that could cause conflict - its literally so sad. Not to mention that some people still believe that James is a predator because of JS comments
Also so many gay guys (especially bottoms), go through the phase of wanting straight masculine guys. Not sure why everyone was in such disbelief James' into that. He'll learn like the rest of us.
@@frostbitegaming3289 exactly i feel like people see people on the internet and go digging into their personal life - is like just because they are on the internet so that means they cant learn lessons like the rest of us - they have to immediately be mature because of an 'impressionable audience' like excuse me, people forget that the youtubers can be impressionable too!
He should have carved himself out a piece of that humble pie. They bullied a teenager to the point of thinking about suicide simply because James was winning their stupid popularity contest. Shane surrounds himself with terrible people (Jeffree, Tana, Trisha) and is shocked that he's surrounded by drama. Screw him.
It's very clear that Tati, a 38 year old woman was envious of a boy twice as successful as her. Let's be honest, nobody fucking knew who she was until this drama. Jeffree went with it because he wanted to destroy the competetion, and Shane was tied to him like a little dog, so he went as well. Fun
I hate how he's always portrayed himself as a super caring individual who tried to show the other side. He did it with Tana and Jake Paul. But when they consider James Charles as problematic, Shane doesn't bother to investigate or give advice. He straight up excused James of being a predator, which Shane should empathize with considering he's been accused of pedophilia and bestiality in the past.
Yep
YES. Second this.
James is a self obsessed, inappropriate, judgy, immature, brat. Tell them young before they are older and think its okay to be like that forever. I'd be going off on him no matter how old I was. If he can handle a company and millions of dollars I think he can handle people telling him to take a step down from his high horse
"The beauty gurus who are ALWAYS involved in scandals..."
*is friends with the beauty guru that gets the most scandals*
He couldn’t afford self-awareness cuz “he’s poor.”
SIRENity Addams Shane always complains that he’s poor yet lives in a fucking mansion 🤒 like make it make sense bruv mansion+bff and connections with rich people = poor
SIRENity Addams 💀
Wait for jafar to treat dawson the same way he is treating charles rn. It will happen around mid 2021 or 2022 im calling it.
@@nicolasgalviza7948 surprised it hasn't happened already tbh
Shane basically saying “Jeffree is Jeffree” is the same as saying “boys will be boys”
Boys will be boys is when boys boys want to slide down the steepest hill in the neighborhood not for attacking someone but yeah I see ur point
Preach
Girls will be girls
THANK YOU 🙏🏻
@Delilah Mechell Literally when has anyone said that?
Jeffree: *knew and toured with an actual child predator and pretended he didn’t know when he tweeted he did*
Shane: that’s just Jeffree lol I love him
James: *acts like a dick with a huge ego, falsely accused of being a predator*
Shane: James isn’t innocent and needs to be humbled
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
I love your photo.
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Bro imagine 2 extremely influential men and one woman in their 30s trying to "humble" a 19 year old boy still learning to be a functioning adult in society while also learning how to cope with immense fame while he's still developing because of VITAMINS. Oh wait
Not to mention all the death threats and friends he lost during that must’ve been really hard.
I may not like james but he really doesnt deserve this.. no one his age does honestly. (Unless they really really are that bad. But from what I see he's just trying to figure shit out..)
@Turquoise Cheetah she literally goes up to random strangers and harrasses them
falsely accusing someone of something so serious is not “tea” .... shane’s statement was awful. they’re the ones who need an entire humble pie
PERIODD
Exactly. S*xual abuse isn't "tea"
And what gives THEM the right to decide another person needs to be "humbled"? If they truly thought he was a predator, why didn't they contact authorities?
If miss shanaynay thinks James needs humble pie he needs to set his priorities straight. We didn't forget about his racist past 🤔
@Retard Alert idk about making out with a minor on camera but j* did sexually assault a man on camera
Why does Shane talk like a teenage girl? Did Jeffrey write this or something? Sounds like Jeffrey
Jeffree sounds more vile. This is definitely shane.
Jeffree always sounds like he’s gonna come to your house and eat your children and your dog alive, this shit is too lighthearted for him
I was about to say I was a big fan of Shane once he was doing his food vids and onward but since he’s been involved w Jeffrey he’s literally explaining what he’s become in his statement
@@b4llfxrt we gays don't claim them, next.
Hot Milky we claim garret and drew
imagine nearly pushing someone to suicide over gummy bears...lol can't relate
he was 19 being ganged up on bye grown ass men 💀💀
I can
очень одинокий and a grown woman
So Shane is commenting on life choices that James made at 19 while he did blackface and said racist things at an OLDER age than any of James’ bad decisions? Maybe Shane should be quiet...
And the fact he admitted to being a pedophile on his podcast😬
raishea 24 Wait, no he didn’t. He DID, however, share his very fucked up and far from normal views of pedophiles. But, the dude was molested as a young kid so I imagine that could very easily mess with your opinion on the matter. Not defending him, just simply stating the facts. He’s definitely made some awful statements about his views on pedophilia, but just to be clear, he’s never once said that he was one.
@@johnseckinger9523 he admitted to it. The person you replied to didn't say he said he was a pedo. He did admit to googling naked baby which makes him a pedo. Period.
crazy_ cat_mama If this were just some normal Joe we were talking about, I’d say “yep, you don’t google that unless you have pedophilic urges or are an active pedophile, or are working as law enforcement trying to bust the people putting that out there”, but I think that context is important when making a HUGE accusation like saying someone is without a doubt a pedophile. He was an edgy RUclipsr/entertainer who also was molested as a child. It’s why I think painting the accusations against Shane Dawson as an open/shut case is jumping the gun quite a bit. If there was any evidence whatsoever that he had ever physically touched a child, this would be such a different discussion. But there’s not. All we have are old videos where he says weird shit, and a few times to children. Look, if something changes, I’ll grab my pitchforks and demand he be held nothing sort of accountable, but there is clearly no real evidence that Shane’s committed any crimes other than him saying either really twisted thoughts about pedophilia or trying to be edgy to gain popularity.
John Seckinger Being molested as a child doesn’t give you free reign to defend pedophiles or google pics of naked babies. A very large percentage of pedophiles were molested as children. It doesn’t excuse them. He could be a pedophile and never touch a kid. That’s not a necessary determining factor.
its embarrassing that Tati is almost twice James Charles' age, and yet she created accusations without any valid proof, almost destroyed his career, and he came back and shut her down at 19. it's insane and childish what Tati did.
Tbh she was most likely fed false information, but she's definitely still very much in the wrong no matter how much she believed what she said.
Who's Tati?😬😗
Really all Tati accused James of was flirting with a waiter and using inappropriate language infront of her family. Jeffree was the one that put out tweets about James being a predator and "being a danger to society". Tati never made those accusations. Jeffree was also the one that claimed he had proof, which he never did 🙄
@@ashtree8028 That old ass gutter snipe made a video, edited, and loaded it to the internet. Stop letting those pretty white woman tears fool you. She needs her slice plated with Shane and JS.
@@ladycheyne5607 she did get backlash and I'm not saying she didn't deserve the criticism she got, but the fact still remains she didn't falsely accuse James of being a predator. Jeffree did! Jeffree deserves the blame for that, but of course he's going to try to pin it on someone else.
I’ve lost so much respect for Shane. I stopped watching his content years ago but he is just so problematic and manipulative. He REFUSES to take accountability for his part in nearly destroying a teens life with false Accusations. I’m personally beyond over how he’s been acting over this.
True and his videos aren’t interesting anymore so you’re not missing out
Same! I’m glad ppl are finally starting to see his true colours
Chels Murphy exactly, he’s done the same shameful things for years, that have ended people’s careers back in the early 2000’s and even now. All because he’s put on this persona of being this naïve, innocent man-child who is ‘too pure to be bad’. He’s an adult and needs to be held accountable. It’s only 10 years later but that’s better than nothing, I guess
atozy: is too hot
atozy: gets airconditioning
atozy: guess ill put on a jacket then
beanie and hoodie = comfort zone
@@atozy very understandable sir
@@atozy EVERYDAY! 👏
I wish the uk had ac i stg
Haha
Regarding Shane’s question on whether he’s tried to destroy someone’s career, people have really forgotten about Bobby Burns.
Fr tho! I wonder what he’s doing now.
he ruined his commentary channel before it even started
So I'm not the only one!! In regards to bobby burns he still got backlash even after he left shane dawson, but shane calling him a bully and using the lie detector made him look bad. Accidental or not, bobby's whole career was a line of dominoes, and meeting shane made the first one fall. I honestly think that shane did purposely ruin this kids career behind the scenes.
@@jadaweaver7621 hes making videos, they are quite enjoyable actually.
shane and jeff are literally in their THIRTIES like is there genuinely nothing better to do in their lives. go pay your taxes or something damn.
"go pay your taxes or something" I came here to inform you you now have a subscriber.
I’m subscribing too
"Go pay your taxes or something damn" 😭😭😭 im deaaadddd
It's funny because these "adults" are literally basing all this off false allegations that have been proven as lies🤣 what is wrong with these people
I just saw you in a sao video why are you everywhere
no one is actually really an adult we're all just older kids pretending we got our shit together
Yes, also Jeffree wants to be forgiven for actions at a younger age yet is holding James to a higher standard. I have always disliked Jeffree Star, just seems cruel & shallow. P.S. Love your screen name.
And also both Jefree and Shane were extremely hypocritical. Jefree has done exactly what they accused James of doing and Shane.... theres literally recorded proof of him defending pedifelia comparing it to a foot fetish. He also called a child that he thought was to young to have a phone sexy. Not to mention they both have racist past. Shane had many video where he literally did black f@ce. Thats disgusting
Susanna Hill Jeffree literally made a song about preying on straight men, yet James Charles is the guilty one apparently.... he’s just SO dumb lmao
Wasnt his Shane Glossin channel supposed to be his makeup channel? Crazy how as soon Jeffree told him he could make a lot of money off of a palette, all of a sudden he was so passionate about it, but I havent seen any since his makeup released
"I didn't do this for money"
Okay so the guy who built his brand on being gross and poor has a genuine interest in makeup and beauty...? Hm...
And he only did makeup stuff when it related to his palate, the second channel looks like its just a lite version of his normal channel.
@@matthewrhett2319 I remember someone calling him out for seemingly losing interest in makeup after it released, and he replied with a picture of the Shane Glossin channel, saying he'd post makeup there, but there's nothing lmao
You know what else really annoyed me? Shane received tons and tons of PR. I always felt weird about it but thought the companies are just being supportive. Now I think about all these MUAs that are talented and so passionate about makeup that can't get on PR lists even when they really deserve it. Shane did a few eyeshadow looks and then got a bunch of free makeup?
I no longer support shane dawson or jeffree, However I am a fan of rylands sister morgan because she unfollowed jeffree in this climate and I stan a queen with morals.
idk how people are still on jeffrees side
I am giving up on Shane, already moved past Jeffree. Tati was not even a thought to me.
Your brain isn't fully developed until your 20s so James didn't even have a whole brain
i get what you mean but "didn't even have a whole brain" is the funniest shit i've ever seen and i'm going to use it as an excuse until i turn 25
Until 20 you're small brain and after 20 it's big brain time fr
before 20 is 4head after 20 is 5head
Lmaoo
Exactly! Until you're about 25, the part of your brain responsible for decision making isn't fully developed.
10 seconds in and I already feel better for Atozy now that his AC is working
the 4 dislikes are jeffree shane tati (for obvious reasons) and gary because you told him not to eat plastic which as we can tell is his true passion and you’re just crushing his dreams
I just love it when the beauty community makes more drama. You know who really loves it though? Their wallets.
Ah yes, a fellow big brain
Preach
off topic but i love ur pfp
Oh hey link
Literally why I lost faith in them
man these guys have been milking the “tea” from this ONE SITUATION for literally a year and i’ve been waiting for it to blow up in their face
James is 5 years older than me. And he doesn’t deserve this, even if he made mistakes.
Jeffree and Shane made racist remarks in their 20s but it’s ok cause they were “YOunG” and didn’t “know better” but James made mistakes at 19 and they still call him out.
The amount of gaslighting and manipulation in Shane's "statement" is astounding.
Yupp, and his brainwashed fans believe him.
I hope he realized how cringe that tati praise was 😷
@@Firegirl483 It's like he opened a gay slang dictionary and used as many words as possible. Nobody really speaks like that, it was just plain painful and awkward to read.
I have his jumper, i loved him. He was one of my favourite youtubers. I feel destroyed
Jeffree Star better lose more subs than James did or I'm calling foul.
Your insta?
@@joedementiabiden8063 what
so far hes only lost 100k, :/
@@joedementiabiden8063 leave the poor kboo alone
Wouldnt surprise me if Jeffree bought subs
i'm 37. when i see a 19 year old, i still see a kid.
bruh i’m 21. 19 year olds are definitely kids. i know im not very far but yes i can 100% my mentality was definitely not as developed as it is today. granted i know my responsibilities and right from wrong but life hit me like a train lmao
I'm 19. When the drama happened I was about 18 and I thought, "Oh, James should be able to handle it, he's an adult."
I now look back and think, "Oh, my God. That was really horrible. He was SO young."
I'm 35 and there is no way I would be hanging out with an 18-19 year old and treating them as a friend. I have a niece and nephews his age, and all thier friends call me Auntie and that's as far as our relationship goes, they ask me for advice we don't hang out.
I’m 39 my son is 19.. he will always be my Poohbear
“Did I know she was thinking about making that video? Yes.”
That right there says a lot. If you’re truly friends with someone you’ll call them out on their bullshit not because you dislike them but because you don’t want them doing stupid shit. Also, he KNEW a 19 y/o would get backlash and harassed for the video-and whether he would’ve predicted that James would’ve gotten suicidal, that shouldn’t matter, and he should’ve thought about that. Shane is shocked when he gets drama thrown at him when he doesn’t care to speak up about making such vile accusations against basically a CHILD. Shane, it doesn’t matter that you didn’t orchestra it, but you also willingly chose to not say anything about this horrible event. Stop acting like a child, especially when one is way more fucking mature about it when he’s on the receiving end
I can’t believe 3 people in their 30s almost made someone take their own life over some placebo gummies
Placebo gummies - i died 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lmaoo says the one who screamed the n word and thought blackface was hilarious, anything shane says I don’t listen to he’s discusting and no one talks about it.
He also called a 6 Year old sexy 😭Wtf is his problem
Not to mention all the times he’s made sexual comments about minors thinking he was being funny
@@saram3449 I agree that Shane's a bad person, but like those comments were years ago, when the internet wasn't as sensitive, and they accepted those edgy jokes a lot more. Still shouldn't have said them though
John he was an adult still there is no excuse for an adult to do all of those disgusting things 🗿
John well still, just like the person above said, he was an adult.,,an adult should know better than to succumb to “edgy humour” adults have no business speaking about children in that manner
I tried to watch Shane’s “I have a demon in my house”. After 10 minutes of watching 3 grown assed men giggle and act like immature, slightly dim witted (sorry preteen girls) 10 - 12 year old girls I actually got a headache. Seriously. I have an 11 year old niece and she’s not this stupidly annoying. I just wanted to see a ghost or demon... not get a migraine!!!!! BTW I appreciate your honest commentary. Never change!!
He’s 30(?) acting like 12. This is why his fans are blindly defending him. Because he act like a fucking naive baby even tho he’s definitely not like this when the cameras are not rolling. He’s manipulative and fake.
@@rosalierowan He is turning 32 next month. He is honestly way too old for all this bullshit.
SAME! I just couldn't
I honestly just miss his videos where it was just conspiracy theories and looking for some spooky shit. I don't hate him, but I don't like him either anymore. And all this drama, is just not helping him at all. I miss his old content, but sorry for going on a rant.
@Mike Wazowski i think she was explaining why she can't watch him anymore, go kiss shanes broke anxious ass
30 year olds bullying a 19 year old. I have no words
shane’s statement was devastating as a former fan who adored him. what they did to james was awful, he’s a kid. shane and jeffree need the humble pie.
Akira Rivera legally yes, but compared to shane he’s a kid lol.
Shane saying "I didn't do this for money, I just don't wanna be a part of the community anymore" is like saying "I'm not racist, I just don't like black people"
Honestly when I read "I need to go back to what I was doing in 2005" I was like, does he mean blackface and the n word and black face again and ghetto characters? lmao
If there’s an Illuminati, I’d feel pretty sure that Jeffree Star is in it. And I wouldn’t mess with that dude. He’s like a Batman villain lol
Even those villains are scared of him 😅
Halo DP literally hahhaha
I agree with you. Maybe that’s why that guy was fearing for his life
“Did I need that kind of drama to make a good series?”
*That’s debatable*
“Good series”? Also debatable
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Love how the people who say they made mistakes when they were teens (such as blackface and racist comments) are trying to tear down a teen now. Sad cause Shane’s channel used to be my favorite . Sad I used to be such a big fan
What bothers me is how mental health is being used like a get out of jail free card as well as being weaponized. I’m very pro mental health but this doesn’t seem authentic
I wish I could unfollow Shane again, but I already unfollowed him back when I found out he was doing his series with Jeffree. Looks like I made the right choice. 🤷🏼♀️
Same here
I liked watching his vlogs with his friends. It was nice but then he started making boring content including the documentaries.
Im glad more people are calling out Shane. He's a fake, manipulative sellout. He's not the "soft uwu relatable king" his stans act like he is, he's a gross man in the 30s who cant take accountability for his actions, and when he's called out, says he's "too senseitive for it."
Shane cares about his mental health, but where was the care about James' mental well-being when he wanted to commit suicide? Hypocrites.
@@jessicavasquez6752 Exactly! He said he was too sensitive for the negativity. James got like 100 times the amount of negativity. People thought, and some still do, that he was literally a sexual predator at 19 years old. But hey guys, Shane being called out for his actions is hurting his feelings, so go easy on him, because he's sensitive.
Ditto! I've disliked him for years. The misinformation and toxicity he spreads in the mental health community is disgusting. I've met so many people who idolize Shane and his content and use their mental health, particularly anxiety, in similar ways as him for excuses and attention. He's a piece of shit and always has been.
@@milkhorns I used to be a huge fan of him. I was one of those annoying fans defending his every action, and I'm so fucking embarrassed. He KNOWS he has a toxic fanbase full of preteens with that unhealthy mentality that he can do no wrong, and he's okay with it because they keep him relevant.
@@GodChaotic truth truth truth. Everything he does is for money and clout and is tailored specifically to bring a young audience in. Mental health has always been a big part of his psyche and its been insane to watch this whole situation over the years get more and more insane. He made himself one of the faces of the RUclips mental health community but since then he has:
- Profited off the suffering or bad actions of people who have mental health issues.
- Profited and made light of Eugenia Cooney, dropped her as soon as she wasn't bringing in views.
- Made massively clickbaity content about or alluring to mental health of others for views.
- Used his relatively minor mental health issues to excuse himself of literally awful shit, bullying behavior, past racist characters, and creepy behaviour.
- Admitted to not giving a shit if a 19 year old he bullied had suicidal thoughts.
Feel free to add to the list. I hate this man. I hate his loyal following. I hate how he uses mental health to demonize, use, and take down others, but uses it to make him the sad wittle victiwm.
I remember when I used to get flamed in comment sections for hating on RUclipss golden boy, and I'm so glad that people are realizing what a disgusting, predatory sellout Shane Dawson really is 🐷🐷🐷
This just sounds like high schoolers bullying and gossiping except of course these people have massive followers which I don’t understand why
Katie N. Me too like idk what their fans are doing at this point
They have a massive following BECAUSE of all this petty shit. Watching stupid people dealing with stupid situations is entertaining. It’s why commentary channels are so popular as well. There are gurus out there who are much more talented who have a much smaller following solely because they know how to mind their own business.
shane acts like he is the victim, why is he blaming the gurus when he CHOSE to be friends with them?
How did someone who made incredibly racist, sexist, disturbing videos in the mid-2000s get this successful?
Why do people still listen to michael jackson music?Why do people admire the mona lisa? its the same answer the art/content created can be divorced from the creator.Jeffere i believe simply just has in terms of volume the most make up reviews and price doesn't matter to him if its a brand you want to know about jeffere probably has a video on it and most of them are highly informative.
@@rorythompson5410 they were talking about shane.
@@erikakrolyte7654 if so then they could of made it so much shorter by saying CANCELED like every other SJW loser.
@@rorythompson5410 small brain cant handle big words? sorry hun, here I'll put it in simple words for you "shane racist, sexist, shouldn't be popular" if that helps you any
Society is irredeemably fucked up?
I could care less about the drama tbh Gary was the real star here 🐶
So racism, pedophilia, scams, and defamation is “NoT WoRtH iT” for Shane Dawson...?
“I want to go back to why I started a RUclips back in 2005” was making black face and saying the N word in his videos. Uhh ok then ....
When shane said he was deleting his post cause he was too sensitive, my first thought was how is that humble pie tasting mr shane
He's losing thousands of Twitter followers every minute on social blade
Good he deserves it.
wait who I'm confused?
@@l1nkiii both Shane and jefrey are
Deserve
@@alexis.rodriguez oh okay thanks they deserve it.
I feel like Shane at least knew. At the very least he knew what was going on.
He did knew.. have you watched Kam Lester and Ashley Kyle videos? His statement contradicts evidence, and evidence is stronger than testimony. All evidence so far points at Jeffree and Shane planning everything long before Tati's video.
Shane Dawson “documentary’s” are trash I never understood why people thought they were good. He’s definitely a snake too.
I liked taking a look into someone else’s life and seeing a different perspective, but Shane ended up being such an awful person.
... expert in parseltongue.
@@alexanderpumpkin3423 no literally all of them are redeeming people - tana, jake paul, jefree star, etc.
Bru his only good videos were his conspiracy theory ones, I stopped watching when he started tryna make me "understand" those weird ass fucken yt pricks lol.
Yeah none of his documentaries have any actual facts. Just accusing people of being sociopaths, and sympathizing with people who did bad things without holding them accountable. All of his documentaries are just about him being way too naive and becoming friends with the “enemy” in the first five seconds and then it’s just all lies from there.
Bruh we say 'putting him on blast' like they didn't accuse James of being a PREDATOR and a DANGER TO SOCIETY like ..... they didn't just expose some cute texts they made serious claims
Exactly !!!
Just imagine being almost 40 years old and trying to ruin a 19 year old.
I love how he made millions off the makeup world and then dipped because it was too much drama. What... 👁👄👁
he said: no actually i am gunna leave 👁👄👁✌️
collected the cash and fled, yet his fans still think he cares
Not to mention, I think they restocked his pallets just before or after this statement.
The more I stare at this drama the more my brain rots. It's all ridiculous and could've been easily prevented if Tati talked to James in private n shit and Jeffree wasn't slimey but y'know tEa SiS
hehehehehehhehehehehehe sister cancel culture teehee
In a way, if the adults actually acted maturely and had a good conversation offline, the Dramaggedon that was unearthed recently should have never happened. But no. 😩
Anyone else catch on to the fact that Shane didn't even acknowledge the fact that Jeffree threw him under the bus in those leaked texts?
Shane only “joined” the beauty community for his cash grab collab with Jeffree
If James deserves a slice of humble pie then Jeffrey deserves the whole pie
Shane Dawson acts like a 5 year old 90% of the time. I haven't forgotten the weird remarks about kids and I consider him an accomplice to Eugenia Cooney's illness and abuse, so no, I do not think he's a harmless idiot
What happened with Eugenia cooney?
Jennifer Norman she went to rehab for anorexia she was really really bad to the pint you could see her bones through her skin. She finally got help and after she returned to RUclips Shane did a “series” with her and that was the last time I really watched anything of his. It disturbed me.. I just don’t see how you could put your friend who just came home from rehab in that kind of environment..
Shane dawson does not deserve to talk when he friends with someone like Trisha paytas and Jeffrey star. Birds of a feather flock together. He needs to be real and hold them accountable. He always tries to minimize the damage his friends have done and shift the blame
trisha is just like a troll and everyone knows that, he doesn’t deserve to talk because hes friends with JEFFREE
@@gemaenriquez5681 no trisha is more then a troll who needs to be cancelled already
I agree with you , but don’t you think it would be hard to cut someone who’s like family to you out ? And being friends with someone doesn’t really mean that you support whatever shit they do . Just an opinion no hate
Queen of Dark I agree but you need to be able to call them out on there bullshit and hold them accountable.
tamara sky bro she used to makes videos talking about how she doesn’t believe dogs have brains. its a tactic for money & it works, weve been trying to cancel her, but it only gives her the attention she wants. Jeffree was friends with a pedophile and defended his actions, and thats only the tip of the iceberg. Jeffree needs to be gone first, then trisha.
I'm so early that the max quality is still 360p
Honestly😭
“I need to get back to why I started youtube back in 2005 and that was to make things that bring me joy (not drama)”
hun, weren’t you doing blackface and saying the n-word in those videos?
I like how Shane is still defending Jeffrey even though James Charles was the actual victim in all of this and he says James is not an angel
Let us all remember when Shane was accused of being a child predator. I am sure that was not an easy time for YOU sir.
You should honestly make a video of some of the major things that Jeffree Star has done.
I would really like to see that. But then again he may get a huge hate wave and maybe even have the video taken down (not sure if itll actually happen, that just may be why he hasnt yet)
Liam Mcevoy has already made a few good exposé type videos on J*. Worth a watch
I think he was feeling pressure from Ryland and family, it had the "There! I did it... are you happy now?' feel to the post.
This whole drama just gave me MAD respect for James, and so much disrespect for Shane for surrounding himself with such toxic characters.
I think people are forgetting that Shane and Jeffree Star are in their 30s and they are DEGRADING a 21 year old young adult
Omg im soo fat ugly poor and quirky accusing a kiddo that could be my son of crimes he didnt commit. Me and my three friends are soooo quirky and niceeeee. Feel sorry for me even though im tots not the victim yassss tati snapped slay queen.
Ok shena
@B.R. V. true, however Jeffree and Tati are old enough to be his parents, and overall, they should have called his actual parents if they had such concerns about his behavior
@@Firegirl483 very true
Tati is a year or so younger than me. James Charles is the same age as my son. If she came for my kid the way she did him, she'd be screwed.
Wait so Jeffree constantly starts drama with others because he's jealous, he has scandals with actual proof of him being shitty and his whole thing is kinda flaunting his money and success yet Shane is friends with him, and yet he decides James, a young adult whos starting out and trying to find his way in society (whos made mistakes, as everyone does) needs to be humbled despite being so much younger. And honestly even if he did need to be 'humbled,' bringing out false accusations that nearly ruined his career was a terrible thing to do, it's not humbling it's just straight up shitty and hypocritical.
I'm not a fan of James but what Jeffree, Shane and Tati done to him was just shitty and they don't deserve to get away with that shit.
shane, jeffree and tati don’t deserve to be served a humble pie. the humble pie needs to be thrown in their face.
isnt it funny how when you look at shane’s and jeffree’s pasts (aka when they were in their 20’s), they did horrible things on camera yet they still like to say that it doesn’t matter because that was in the past but when james was accused of sexual assault without any proof at the age of 19, they thought he was big enough to be bullied by the world
This has nothing to do with the James Charles scandal but let’s not forget the racist Shane and Jeffree Shane black faced and Jeffree said slurs and so did Shane bring light to this cancel both no matter their power
Bro shane literally called a 6 year old sexy and googled naked babies he's a pedophile why does everyone ignore that just because he uses the 'im sensitive' bullshit or the 'i have anxiety' he always says the same shit and everyone believes him
@@random_2965 he didn't do that but okay. I listened to the podcast and it was a dark joke. Jokes in poor taste are still jokes. He's apologized for his past fuck ups. Why even bring up past stuff that doesn't matter anymore?
Shane already apologized for this shit plus alot of mainstream comedians made the exact same mistake shane made regardless but jeffree has too much shitty stuff to apologize for anyway. If jeffree apologize for one of the things he did wring in his past people will dig up more then just say he is apologizing because he got caught not because he matured which in jeffree case i doubt
Shane's blackface is years ago though, judging based on things that were okay a decade earlier isn't the way to go
@@naneki1992 Yes, i know i shouldn't have brought it up but no one actually knows if it's a joke only he does and after all the bullshit he's pulled how is anyone supposed to know if he was actually joking or not? If he's capable of bullying a 19 year old boy into a dark state what else is he capable of? in my opinion he's a 30 year old man who cries and complains everytime someone points fingers at him eventhough he does it to other people
Shane Dawson is so overrated, he's literally just being used by jefree lmao
I thought i was the only one
He's not even funny anymore. His whole humor is "I'm poor" and "I don't shower"
Yeah. I agree.
@@JohnCena-yy7wk right, i feel like he cant make me laugh when its him alone like he needs someone with him to make it somewhat funny, garrett always had me rollin but shane was just "im so fat" "im too poor for that" "omg ME" "EW" like just stale as fuck lol
@@JohnCena-yy7wk I think it's because he is uninspired and unmotivated when it comes to humor and he defaults to self depreciation in his videos when he is actually funnier outside of his channel like on Ryland channel where he would say something funny or do something funny
Shane WAS involved since he KNEW about a video tf.
"Am I only going to answer yes once and then deny everything else? Yes."
Atozy: ‘LA is filled with bloodsucking leeches’
Gary: 👁👄👁
When the day comes that Jeffree throws Shane under the bus that statement is going to be thrown back into Shane's face, "what do you expect he's Jeffree f@#king Star!"