Bang PD is a visionary and looks at the big picture and trends. Between him and Namjoon’s leadership, I’m starting to understand how Hybe and BTS went from nothing to the top of the industry.
💜 Cindy 38:40 Bee I Agree With You So Much 💜 Because Of Bang PD And Namjoon’s Leadership And Both Being Visionary’s Is How HYBE And BTS Are Known All Over The World 🌎 And Will Continue To Grow 💜 💜I Purple You 💜 💜 We Will All Continue To Grow Together Because Of KPop 💜 💜A Big Thank You To Bang PD💜 For Creating BTS 💜🙏 A Your Huge Growth With HYBE 💜
@CindyBee I so agree with you. Bang PD is a genius. Through his vision of combining the artists, fans and technology, he created the world's biggest group in BTS. The members popularity grew organically and they inevitably were the ones responsible for their continued, consistent and massive growth through their music, performances, and most importantly, personalities, and have sustained that level and surpassed all other artists in the best way possible - human interaction, virtually through social media and actually through live shows and fan meetings. In fact, in my lifetime, BTS is the biggest group EVER; bigger than The Beatles and Michael Jackson (he's not a group anyway). And I don't see any artist replicating this feat. Finally, I love Seoulite TV. Thank you for this enlightening video. 💜
Take it or leave it, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, K-pop is no different from any business. K-pop is an Entertainment business, therefore, it doesn't matter whether you like Bang PD or not. If you look at how Asian's Musical status was, it has been K-pop that has been well known but now we have J-pop and other Asian's artists coming up and that is slowing down K-pop popularity until BTS came in to light up the fire. Yes, K-pop is well known mainly in South Korea but I think things need to be evaluated within K-pop in order for K-pop to be world wide just like BTS as made it well known in the world. Music entertainment shouldn't be mainly about looking beautiful and handsome according to Korean's beauty standard but should base on talents. If Bang PD had base on Korean's beauty standard that means RM, J-Hope, Suga, and Jimin wouldn't have been chosen by any of the well-known companies. Bang PD was confidence and he based his thoughts on talents, therefore, RM, J-Hope, Suga and Jimmin were picked and look where we are now. BTS did not start K-pop but they paved the way to the international market especially the US. It doesn't mean there were no artists that came and performed in the US because there were a lot of K-pop members but they never Penetrated the US market as BTS did. For this reason this is why the statement that says "BTS Paved the Way" meaning out side of Korea especially in the US. I know folks don't want to accept the fact but let see how many will make it in the US market since BTS will be enlisted in the US. It is my thought.
And if y’all gonna say they paved the way then let others walk the pavement they’ve paved without y’all trying and hinder other kpop artist from becoming a major success in the west/US cause you don’t want anyone else to be as popular or successful in the west/US as bts yet again your continuously screaming bts paved the way, no one can ever take away what bts has achieved in the west/US no matter who comes after them so why not let others have there chance to shine if their being received well in the west/US
@@lovelydiva06 no one is gatekeeping the the path to success in the western media lol. so many idol groups are already being invited to daytime shows and late night nows, attending music awards, and charting billboard. Maybe you need to redefine your meaning of "success". it won't be the same level of BTS, that's why you probably feel like people are "hindering" your artists.
@@DaisyDee5610 Way to let a small percentage of people influence your perception. There are toxic "fans" in every fandom. You see more ARMY because it's a massive fandom.
@@lovelydiva06 You see what's hindering other groups' success in the west is the quality of their own music. When you want a market to patronize you, you have to offer them something different/unique. Something that people can relate to. The kind of music that makes you think and makes you feel something. You don't want to offer a music lover just the visual of a group/artists all the time because they just wouldn't care. In short, it's not BTS/ARMY's fault if your favorite groups aren't just good enough to have a global impact. Just like any major artist, BTS didn't have many fans at first, didn't top the music charts at first, didn't win at award shows at first and no one knew them 10 years ago but because of all the hard work they have done and all the patience and persistence they have given in putting up good music, they slowly made their way to the top. They've waited 3-4 years to get big in their home country and 7+ years to expand globally and then there are fans like you who expect your favorites to suddenly get big without much experience and QUALITY in what they offer. BTS paved the way but it doesn't mean they will spoon-feed other groups.
I love how Bang PD explains everything about K-pop. He is genuinely knowledgeable. He is really a committed person whose heart is into music. He loves what he is doing and wants to share it with everybody. Here's hoping that all managers would be like him. More people like him are needed in the industry. I really admire his sincerity and love for the Kpop industry. Kudos to Bang PD, the David of the music industry against the three Goliaths!!! Thank you for giving us BTS!!! - grandma army (74 yrs old)
Thank you Sean for the sharing the speech...Mr Bang is a great leader...for me, among the best thing he created was The Weverse app...it is simply awesome...when our artist goes live, we can see, converse, express our feelings and also help the artist share their feelings or some insecurity with us...that makes it magical...u can see the millions of fans joining the live and interact with artist; but somehow the atmosphere turned into like friends chatting, being less formal. Like recently JK had a 4 hr long concert and took in song requests not forgetting when JK dosed off during another live in front of 15 M friends; it is so endearing...💜
This breakdown of the speech is so helpful. Appreciate the translation to English. Hybe is moving forward. Keep up presenting this content. So interesting and insightful 👏🏽
I somehow believe that maybe Namjoon influences Bang PD alot when it comes to Hybes decisions. I feel like he checks with Namjoon to get his opinion on issues. Whereas Jin has nore of a. drinking Hyung relationship with him. Namjoon is probably someone he bounces ideas off that affects the decisions they make for Hybe.
One of my favorite things that he talked about is the health of the artists. While I love being able to interact as a fan, if the artists aren't healthy physically and mentally, then it's not beneficial for me as a fan and it sure isn't beneficial for the artists. I really like PDnim's visions. I hope the industry can become safer for staff and artists. Profit is good, but not on the backs of those who are struggling and suffering from the weight of trying to make said profit.
Thanks for sharing the translation and your personal thoughts. As a consumer of HYBE (Weverse, BTS, Seventeen, New Jeans, etc…) they truly do an amazing job connecting the fans with the artists. The groups I follow have openly expressed their gratitude to Bang and HYBE for giving them the support they need. Not every company is perfect but I believe they are moving in the right direction for the artists and the fans. Also, another RUclips vlogger (DKDK) during the early days of the SM drama looked into the breakdown of employee salaries, HYBE was the highest paying company for executives, artists, and support staffs. Being an international entertainment company the company needs to be equitable in salary considering they acquired Ithaca Holdings. Bang is definitely looking forward and being sustainable. And looking forward to how Bang leads. So far, I’ve been impressed with his leadership.
Thank you for this Sean. I think SM Artists are going to wish they had been taken over by HYBE and in the long run I think HYBE is missing out on a headache with SM. Someone had gotten a hold of contract info toward the end of last year...HYBE artists had the best contracts of all the large companies and SM artists had the worst (after finding out about the founders deals I understand why now). I was rooting for HYBE because I felt it would have been really amazing for SM creatively and I believe PD knows how to maintain SM as SM yet still improving it. I think that Kakao and SM are made for each other but I will miss seeing what amazing impact I think HYBE would have had on SM
Dear Seoulite , Your voice.. is 7💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 I can listen to your perfection of speech as therapy to the core of my soul. The upmost difficult business speech spoken with so much grace and punctuation... I could visualise every comma... You deserve 1 million followers per month! 🇧🇷Greenhae to Borahae🇰🇷 Thank you - obrigado- gracias-mercy -grazie- shukran- 고마워요.🧚♀️🦋
Bang PD is so ambitious & he never seems to be satisfied. He’s something for sure. I really like him. I like his approach very much & his emphasis on catering to the fans .& listening to the artists! I like how strategic he is & he thinks about future trends & possibilities & he’s not wrong it’s a solid analysis of future events.
Bang PD is brilliant. He has used his voice over and over and I hope more people listen to him. He is shaking up the industry for the better. To bad some can’t understand his vision.
i really loved what he said about respecting the artist as people. and finding talent who wants to make this a a career and not just entertainers for the fame and money. if you get artists the ability to contribute and have a say in what type of music they want to make makes them happy and proud and want to do more. that´s what happened with BTS
Make this a career is good from a musical point of view. In terms of western music industry, the pace of how music groups and artists are debuted and retired is unthinkable. It requires adjusting longevity over quantity.
I think, they already had a masterplan, but didn't share with us. It's possible that they start their own agency as soon as they are back from military. I don't think that they want to retire, but they need more time for vacations and personal life. I hope that they work together in the future, but they deserve the freedom to use at least half of their time as they want for individual activities. It's possible that RM become the leader of HYBE eventually.
Still. Will they break through into the western music industry. If their treatment by the grammys is an indicator. They have an uphill battle for acceptance.
@@rosean374 like Drake, said not winning a Grammy, does not define an artist success in the music industry. Having loyal fans who buy tickets to your concerts and buy your products that is success.
@@rosean374 Grammy is nothing anymore. They should dissolve that. They are not fair to foregners and until they are, they are nothingness in my book and alot of others. They rode the shirttails of BTS. BTS deserve a grammy, and I'm not just saying that because I am Army. Grammy dropped the ball. Grammy's are no more without BTS . There is alot going down without BTS. BTS is more than music and dance. It is a way of life. Of kindness. Of saving so many souls including mine. To love and speak ourselves. BTS is forever💜 Finding our guys saved my life, for real, from myself...
“ Grammy's are no more without BTS” what a clown, mad big time because ur fave didn’t get a prize. If they are nothing as u claim they are why are so desperate to get noticed by nothing. Go out touch some grass u say that only because u are their fan
As you were reading his comments I could not help thinking about Min Yoongi. I feel that at sone point in the future he may be following in the same footsteps of Mr Bang. It would be good for the next step to once again have someone who has come up through the ranks moving K Pop along 💜
And this is why SM will regret fighting off HYBE without even meeting with them. HYBE is a whole company, not just an entertainment company. It is the reason Bang Si Hyuk received the first ever Clive Davis Innovation in Music award presented by the Grammys this year. Bang is a business innovator, leader and genius. Thanks for sharing the whole speech with us Sean. I appreciate you.
Thank you for reading Bang PD 's speech and your breakdown and thoughts. It's good to know where he truly stands regarding the present and future of K-Pop
Definitely one of the graters Bang PD never fails to brought in to the table the most relevant aspects to think globally and to prevail relevan by betting in to the public intelligence and look at technology as a way to bring fans and artists closer in a respect and humane manner but what I loved the most “to prepare the artis for the challenge sacrifice that this industry demands but Al so respect them so they can get to love what they’re doing” 💜
The drama occurred because KAKAO was being sneaky. KAKAO was waiting in the shadows pulling the strings of their SM puppets. When HYBE came into the picture they were forced to come out with all their messy and illegal strategies. Good luck to SM artists and I really mean it.
SEAN, AGAIN, HE IS MY BOSS CRUSH!!! The man is a GENIUS, VISIONARY, PIONEER. HIS BRAIN IS MAD SEXY. OMG💜 This is my second time hearing this speech. He is not EGO driven. He believed in artistic freedom and growth when he started BH. He said previously he did not like some of the industry practices. K-Pop is right up there with the importance of semi conductors. YES! We will see if SM does more than pay lip service and KaKao. Bang playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Sexy Nukim.
There is a man Sam Richards a Sociologist, he was on [The Globalists] Subject: Korea as seen by a world-renowned sociologist. He is talking about Korean K-pop going forward, very interesting, needs to be watched..
Thank you Sean, you are really good at what you do. I admire Hitman Bang's leadership, mindfulness and vision,,, it's hard to concentrate on Bang PD's speech, because Taehyung looks so hotttt. 😂😘🔥🔥 It would be nice if Hybe hires you as a spokesman or advisor or something.
As for the popularity of K Pop in the United States I believe the pandemic and the horrific situation of our political situation played an important role.A lot of us were looking for an outlet to relive our stress and depression for something positive.Who would ever imagine seven guys that wear makeup dressed in satin and singing in Korean would change our lives.The reception from the US fans for BTS And other groups shows they are not just a passing phase. It’s so refreshing to have talented creative artists who are also Nice to look up to.With their popularity and their earning ability the companies need to make sure they take care of them.These are young kids that dedicate themselves to their careers at a critical time in their lives and they mental health and wellbeing are important.BIG Hit the HYBE are one of the better companies in the way they treat their employees. He has always been a positive influence on BTS and their success.
We'll hear from many people leaving SM in the near future. Kakao needs SM for other reasons than compete in music production. They need creative content as accessory to make themselves grow and gain weight. HYBE's CEO instead is worried about how strong will be this industry to keep being relevant as a company so he's working with that focus. Very interesting speech and intrigued about how this will settle.
Once Kakao Entertainment is an independent IP from Kakao Corp, they can let the whole thing tank, since their core business lies elsewhere. Unlike HYBE whose core business IS MUSIC. Good luck to SM artists and employees. Because SM management have secured their position inside the Kakao ship so they wont sink with the whole lot.
Awe i still reminisce the Cantopop era of the 90s but yeah the spark went out and I moved onto manga jpop/rock until I discovered YG 2011 and have been on the hallyu wave since.! Mr bang is right tho,he does need to scale up if he wants to fight the big U.S. companies but he also need to look into why there is a slow down in the growth of kpop ..has kpop reached its peak already? Or is it because the music sound or group dimension needs to change. Furthermore let's address the elephant in the room ..the past 5 years growth of kpop were that of BTS and many fans are of just BTS How many armys have gone onto being a multi stan? Not enough and it now shows when bts goes on their hiatus.
World music moves by trends, the same as cinema and fashion. Trends usually start with a bang becoming a fever, and then after a period these slow down, which doesn't mean they die but become globally less relevant until the trend bounces back in a few decades or the next generation.
Loved your take and updates on this Hybe-SM-Kakao saga. Had all the elements of scandal, betrayal and revenge. And with the revelation of EXO-CBX legal fight with SM (which I heard were initiated months ago prior to the tentative final episode of Season 1), I believe hidden embers are only starting to rekindle a fire within. While the concept of slave contracts has been rehashed, it might now be possible to introduce the real reason for inexplicable suppression of activity and comebacks certain groups experience that have left many scratching their heads. Anyways, perhaps you are already somewhere between pre and post-production, but ne'er has the time ever been more ripe for the start of a spin-off series.
BTS ARMY and HYBE are the triumvirate that broke the shell and became a household name like Samsung and Hyundai. It was pure genius and when I learned about Bang PD. I knew it was the.mind behind the phenomenon . South Koreans should listen to Hitman Bang. He makes sense and a real visionary.
Thank you again, Sean. Again, i see a lot of comments where people listen or read to react in steady understanding. No one said only BTS can geow out side Korea,anyone can,any groups have their own style,of singing and dance,but how many would have stayed in a group if they have to go through that BTS did,it was not easy for them,they worked hard,went through alot,save their company from bankruptcy ect,but they chose to stay together and fight together for their place,they stayed till today humble,their government and people using and abusing them,dont think narrow minded that they got it easy,no they did not,the practice, work hard,ect ect and still today they dont have attitude that only they the best,they humble themselves before every achievement, they pour trillions into their country,❤and i pray God Bless them even after 2025
i think the main thing they need to tackle to become mainstream is the reputation of kpop. the crazy fandoms are scaring people away. i think if they show good faith between all labels and work together and have the same main goal for the artist it might help. and they should also focus on highlighting the solo singers and find someone with an amazing voice can translate well on the global market. western people have a grown hate against boybands and also girl Groups but not as much. and when you throw kpop in top og that it makes a dangerous cocktail. i love BTS, i love them because they speak for themself not only in their music but what they want in general. they were allowed to be goofy and silly and just be themself. it made them happy that people love them for who they are not someone they are told to be. like so many groups before them. the whole controlment issue is the problem. i know they need to have some rules but let idols clap and smile when other groups perform and let them date and have friends. if fans see that they wont have a problem supporting them. and fandoms might also lighten up. as of yesterday i saw once and army Communications and congratulating each other and it made me so happy and to see that you might also want to look at more of their music. it is the whole fighting between labels for the top spot is creating those super crazy fandoms. so they need to all work together and not think of themself. lastly they need music that appeal to western market too. like j-hopes new song and RM´s wildflower is good additions that fit both worlds.
Free will exists, so I'm not sure how you want to change the fans. Btw, it's not like the same toxicity doesn't exist in the fandoms of western artists, it's the same game just less dedicated and less organized. As for actions between artists, I agree it should be more lose, but it will take some time. There have always been interactions though. I know from my second fandom MOA for TXT, that the leader Soobin had a first cross ever live (not just shirt visit) with Seventeens Seungkwan. I thought that was great. They said that it was super hard though to do it, based on the fact that idols have busy schedules it took then 5 month to finally be able to do it. TXT have also lots of friends in other groups like Ateez, Stray Kids, Enhypen etc. and show that on award shows. It was kinda the same with BTS until they became superstars and people bscked off. They didn't intend that, but it just happened, and Jin as well as Suga talked about that openly on the veriety shows. I think they really try to break that by openly tslkimg about it and trying hard to open mlre to others. I mean SUGA did a Tik Tok dance challenge with TXT, j-hope with everyone and wven though I hate the app, if things like these help, why not. I also think people will see them as more normal after they did military time. What I hope for are more normal interactions with females, but it will take more time. On the other side, Kpop has already been there, so it can go back.
U are very naive about the frind and dating part, a big selling point of group in particolare of boy group is selling the boyfriend fantasy, even more in kpop where music is more on the level of a tshirt
Yes...their evolution was fantastic over the 10 yrs. And frankly the mega powerhouse original CEO Big Hit (now Chairman of Hybe) Bang Si-Hyuk is a genius with his forward thinking risk-taking approach to the K-pop industry. Unfortunately from a medical standpoint I fear for his long-term health.
ARMYs already knew what Bang PD was trying to do. I was wondering why he didn’t mention all this at the time during the drama. I guess others didn’t do their research on his past words, like DKDKTV.
I'm grinning because Hitman Bang, while explaining his management and production strategies, also just subtly explained why another company hasn't been able to create 'the next BTS'. Very simply, most other companies don't do what he did: they don't emphasize the creativity and individuality of their artists, they don't work WITH the artists, and they don't experiment. They put the money in, but they don't invest the time. They call it luck and intuition and pass it off as a fluke when actually it's just a departure from industry standards. Which, of course, was exactly what Big Hit was severely criticized and ostracized for; they broke the old standards and created new ones and how dare they?! This is pretty much Hitman Bang's 'I told you so' to everyone who gave him and BTS attitude. And the real irony is that if people just paid attention, they would see that he's been doing this all along. This press release is insightful, but I don't think ARMYs are at all surprised to hear Bang-nim being his usual consistently innovative, think outside the box, focus on the artist, improve connections between artist and fan self. The big question is, which companies will listen to and act on his advice? I'm kinda thinking Kakao won't. I'm very curious to see what happens with Weverse and Bubble going forward; I've been wishing HYBE would develop their own stream/view platform and pull away from Spotify-who-filters and RUclips-who-freezes-and-deletes, and also refuses to disclose their view-count data. I had a feeling that improving that would be one of the things HYBE would want to prioritize; live-streaming is such a good way to get past the physical seat limitations of stadium and arena shows. AND it would make all of us fans so much less dependent on Ticketmaster (insert swearing) and really devalue scalping. Something I picked up- I trust the source, K-PopShock, but anything that comes from 'industry insiders' is a bit doubtful, so take it as rumor- apparently, many of the SM contracts for their solo and group artists are due to end this year/next year. And the word that's drifting around is that these artists are unwilling to re-contract to SM with Kakao in charge of management. I think this may help explain why Hitman Bang and HYBE backed off instead of running with the stock bidding war. If all they have to do is wait for the idol exodus and then offer contracts to these now-free-agents..... then they will have broadcast rights over at SM *and* management rights over THEIR new contractees. Who would just happen to already be highly popular and experienced idols. (And on a side note, what a blow that'd be for MBC, who continues to stupidly ban all HYBE artists from appearing on their broadcasts.)
Artists also are aware when they will play second fiddle in other companies should they transfer. when they can be the first fiddle in their own company. Artists just dont jump to a bigger company. They likely to sign with a smaller company that focus solely on them. Ie to anyone thinking that SM artist are ready to junp ship to Hybe when their contract is up.
@@rosean374 That's a logical argument, but the fact is that even the small companies will have their own groups in training that they'd want to focus on. Remember, there's over 4K entertainment companies in SK; not all of them train idol groups, but those that do almost always have several groups active and several more being trained. Finding trainees is not a problem when it's time to recruit, but squeezing a whole new group in and disrupting the entire train-and-debut schedule is another matter entirely. Plus, a small company will have considerably less of a budget for a newly-hired former rival than a powerhouse company. And there's the question of salary, as well. A group like EXO or NCT is probably not going to sign a contract for rookie wages.
Bts being able to break into the west/US and becoming a global success was more so luck right place right time and having that hit that took off in the west, than anything else cause if it was just what the companies are doing there would be more successes like bts cause it’s not like some kpop groups that don’t have music that appeals to american listeners
@@lovelydiva06 That's really not true. Hitman Bang was the first CEO to concentrate on reaching the Western audiences; the standard K-pop tactic is to gain an audience in Korea first, then branch out to the East, and finally approach the West. The standard K-pop tactic is to wait patiently for Korean TV and radio to notice a group and begin inviting them to promote; Hitman Bang didn't care to wait and didn't like how the media was treating idols- his own boys got verbally abused and insulted- so he bypassed the media and went straight to the internet. The company even established their own little variety show; that's what Run BTS was born from. Another standard K-pop tactic is for the company to write and produce the songs and the idols to sing and dance what they're told, how they're told, when they're told. They do not get input; idols have been thrown out of their groups for daring to question or suggest changes to their management. Hitman Bang wanted his boys to express their own experiences and connect with their listeners, and from that came BTS working with writers, producers, and choreographers, and settling the line distribution among themselves. BigHit didn't always use their suggestions, but they were free to suggest and ask questions. Typically, K-pop idols have very limited interactions with their fans, as management decides what they may say, when they may say it, when they may acknowledge fans and when they have to ignore them. BTS were among the first to interact directly with fans via Twitter, to release personal logs, and to show the behind-scenes efforts of practices and mv shootings. None of that is luck or coincidence.
I am watching this on May 30, 2024 and in the midst of the Hybe vs Ador CEO fiasco. Listening to the whole speech convinces me that Bang PD is a very wise businessman. There may have been mistakes here and there or decisions that may seem harsh to the GP. However, I respect the choices that he has made so far as well as the vision he has for growth and expansion. There are anti's who say BTS should leave BigHit/Hybe because they hate Bang PD. Where would BTS go? To SM? Start their own label? BTS members are artists who are still breaking the boundaries of their own artistry. They still need Bang PD to handle the tedious and exhausting matter of running the business. Maybe in 5-10 yrs, they will be ready. I hope by then, all the legal battles from 2024 are long gone, most of what Bang PD said in his speech has materialized and some, if not all, of BTS members are directors-in-training, preparing for Bang PD's turnover to them.
Mr. Bang, I love a sexy brain. You stated plainly why K-pop must globalize and modernize to remain viable. Hybe has endured disrespectful talk from people who understand visuals, but don't understand the business. Numerous times those same folk have sought to dismiss the American music market as unimportant. I have one word for that, BEYONCE! K-pop has only 1 artist who can perform at her level. Mr. and Mrs. Carter are discovering and preparing new artist to continue the legacy of American music dominance. It's only a matter of time before they compile a group to out K-pop, K-pop. With BTS out of the picture, there's a vacuum waiting to be filled. English speaking artist will have an advantage, but only real performers, those who can dominate the stage, will succeed. K-pop visuals age, their way of performing and lack of diversity leads to stagnation. Longevity should be the focus of every artist and company. Being innovative, creative and collaborative are vital tools of longevity. Sexy brain Hitman Bang, gets it. Sean, thanks for sharing Hybe's vision, current and future, with your viewers. It was very helpful.
Wait r u suggesting Beyoncé will enter K-pop space? That’s the most ridiculous thing ever heard. If K-pop falters, the vacuum will not be filled by dinosaurs like Beyoncé or Gaga etc. K-pop represents and appeals to alternative musical genre in the West. This is why K-pop will never be mainstream in West no matter what Hybe tells their investors. Beyoncé/Gaga already occupy dominant mainstream position in world music. If they’re looking at K-pop space it’s purely out of curiosity or intrigue of the genre they may not understand and it’s crazed active but niche fanbase
“ alternative musical genre in the West” girl they make the same lame shit they make in the west… literally the people that the company get to make their song are from the west
Quick question: Do idol contracts pause during mil service? Like a 7 year contract is then 7 years PLUS 18 months enlistment? Asking bcs of the contract expiry date given in the IPO by HYBE.
Some one says business is business no matter... I am just glad that it was and is until now Bang pd that is handling BTS. He believes and push them to be become who they are now. Thank you Sean for reading for us the speech.
But it’s still business at the end of the day just cause he speaking fantasy words don’t mean he’s not about business, like anyone else running a business especially in regards to kpop, it’s business and making money hence why they were trying to acquire sm shares cause that’s more talent I.e. more money
Sm seems to just want to do well in South Korea. Hybe would have been good for them. A lot of times, though, companies that start something like sm did aren't willing to change their ways. To each his own, but I think it was a dumb move to not go with hybe.
I was truly amazed I can tell how much he truly believes in people not just $$$ he knows the $$$ but cares for music ,artists, fans I'm impressed with all he said.
Bang PD is a genius in the k-pop industry that’s why it’s no wonder that BH/HYBE managed to beat the top three labels and spreading their influence globally.
I hope the govt and the military realizes how much money they're losing with BTS' enlistment. Im sure they already feel a pinch and would eventually reconsider
I heard this from a k-army idk if this is true The govt gave the people the option if bts will enlist or not but bts already annouce that they will enlist, I hope Jin stays safe bc I heard from k-armys that he's on the north korean board the most dangerous one
SM CAN BE SM WITH ONLY BY THEM ITSELFS NO ONE CAN MAINTAIN SM's BLOOD RHYTHM ONLY SM WITH SM CAN! I WISH MIRACLE HAPPENS WITH ARTISTS COME TOGETHER TAKE CONTROL OF SME BY THEM.
There was a good comment about moving kpop more into freeing their artists to become more like independent artists who create their own music. But she must have deleted it due to the rigorous replies she was getting, including from me. Which is a pity because she had very good points to make. Meanwhile, trolls and unhinged comments are still all over this comment section. This is the ultimate failure of a place like RUclips to achieve anything productive in the comment section and through content creation, at least in the kpop space. What a pity.
43:15 Just want to remind you, HYBE is the blank slate that already proved their method works. Their artists are gaining on a global level. SM would be no different than the other sub labels under HYBE. That includes Big Hit, Pledis, Source Music, etc.
Sean. I would love to know your opinion of Hybe's non response to Billboard hot 100 changing the rules to knock BTS Jimin out of first place on his solo album Face.
I honestly hope Bang PD doesn’t take it too hard when he realizes ..it’s BTS. It’s always been BTS. K-pop isn’t doing anything Great, it’s BTS that is, but K-pop just jumped on their coat tails. ARMY could have told you this. Bang, if your reading this, listen to it.
It's true. BTS was the epitome of kpop group success, so anyone trying to replicate that is going to keep failing for the foreseeable future. New Jeans has potential with their similar authenticity, but they need time to grow and become their own voices. I think they can get there but need space and time to be allowed to do it, and that's if the members decide this really is the life for them. I honestly think the next big Korean artist (that isn't a BTS member) is going to be either a soloist or duo because people are fatigued keeping up with the massive groups. Whoever it is will be someone who has ditched the bad boy or bad girl schtick and shows a more down-to-earth side that was popular among 90s icons like Jewel or similar acts. Music happens in cycles and this one is coming to an end.
@@Haegemon BTS persevered despite prior acts failing to break into the west and despite the big companies holding them back. Let's not pretend the industry gave them a boost. Inspiration, yes -- help breaking through, no.
I really liked his speech. I feel he treats his artists better than alot of companies. The only thing I would say is if he wants to compete with the American companies, more of the kpop songs need English versions. I love the music as is but alot of people don't listen.
Well that says u rly haven’t listened to music 🎶 if u’re concerned abt the translation to English. BTS would of never reached their level popularity success in US if that was a legit concern…by their fandom. 💜
American companies have a diversified set of artists beyond borders. They cover most of the market for English speakers but also got latin music and other generes and languages. Some Bjork works were published by Universal Music for example. From a corporative point of view the issue isn't about having more Kpop in english but if a Korean Music Company can manage artists not related to Korea, and HYBE now is doing it through their adquisitions in the U.S.
I'm not saying BTS hasn't reached millions of fans in the US with their music. I am saying I can say to most people I'm a BTS fan and I get the same reaction no matter the age. I have heard of them but I don't know their music. They do not get the radio air play on their non English songs as they do with their English songs... Most people say it doesn't matter, but it does if you want them to take over the American market. By the way, I prefer their Korean songs. Just saying what I see.
No not really, Mr Bang Hybe Chairman was the one decided to let it go, because to him it was never was about power for greed for money, it's about make the right decision for his business, However He does wish He could save SM Artist or Idols, because KAKAO only thinks about more power and money greed for their own benefits to use SM Company for something else and not cares about SM Idols or Artist at all, which means SM Artist or Idols will not get paid much or hardly nothing at all to help themselves, and their families which is why Mr Bang feels sad for because He knows how talented these SM idols are ok, So that's why He said, and I quote said SM Artist or Idols needs to think about their future more when it comes to KAKAO take over SM, but these SM idols will find out at end how KAKAO works at end they may not like it how these People operates in SM company at end. (Translated by Google)
Actually BANGPD chairman HAD won because acquiring PLATFORMs like WEVERSE AND BUBBLE is more profitable, so SM now its up to them deal with their artists...
@@Xstarzones2 Yeah, that's what's so sad because SM artists are about to be (hopefully not) overworked with no pay. Do you personally think some artists will leave sm?
SM unfortunately lost an opportunity to become more successful under HYBE. Like attracts like and their merger with Kakao was better for them in their eyes. Mr. Bang or the godfather of K-Pop, because he has turned his company into a global entity; had SM's artists in his heart while trying to acquire SM. He is absolutely right in all fronts when it comes to the entertainment business. SM and Kakao should take notes. 😉
HYPE feels that it is very risky to depend on BTS for revenue. Maybe that is why PD Bang says they are not sure whether BTS will return as a group. Maybe he wants army to focus on other group.😅. For me, I am BTS Army for life.
Maybe BTS is just done with ARMY. Ever thought about that? Being forced to be the people ARMY wants for the rest of their lives? While ARMY carries on with their own lives getting married having children getting older?
Hybe still has their shares and they are a K-pop company Kakao is not. Hybe may be sitting back to watch Kakao fail then they can go in and save SM. Or maybe like you said maybe the artists will get together with each other and their families and get the rest of the stock and take control of the company. I still think they would be better off with Hybe.
Ok. I hate that I am going to say something so negative about a group of people I am a part of: KPOP fans. I've been a KPOP fan for a relatively short amount of time. Yet, I've frequently been scolded and reprimanded. Now as an elderly person I was shocked and really turned off by this behavior. At the same time there were many fans who were kind and welcoming. I never felt resentful of the fans who have been teaching me about KPOP and BTS in specific. But, I have found a dark rot that needs to stop. it puts new fans off, chasing them from KPOP. The mean attitude that a few fans exhibit. I have never once said anything bad about KPOP in general or about specific groups. I have merely stated an opinion here and there, none of it nasty. Having a different opinion shouldn't mean a rabid 'corrector' should slam you/me. I also think it is not good to hear from other new fans they are being attacked, scolded or roasted. This is NOT a good behavior. I apologize for sneaking this only peripherally related comment here. But it is part of growing KPOP as a world level brand.
Your thoughts are relevant. I understand your hesitancy to express this opinion, however, as I was listening to the strategy employing new platforms such as Weverse and the enormous cash cow it could become I immediately wondered how fandoms would be managed and toxic behaviours towards some artists would be dealt with. It will be interesting to see how it develops when business is on the line.
Sean, hi from Uruguay 🇺🇾 💜 I know you care about bts for your other videos as much as I do. You don't find it ironic that bang pd says that "he cares about further expanding kpop in the world and at the same time sends bts to military service????? I'm actually SO mad at this guy for doing NOTHING to exempt bts. In the whole interview I think this guy doesn't realize that the Korean wave is basically BTS. And that if bts disappears by going to the army there will not be "another bts" Seeing his words, it seems that he wants to "create" successful kpop groups like someone who makes any product. In my opinion bts is more than just aesthetics, it's more than original songs, it's more than everything that says a group needs to succeed! What attracted me the most to bts is the abilities of each one that I have not seen in any other group: for example, Jimin's dance! I've never seen someone dance like that! JK's voice, suga and rm's intelligence and producer skill. and also the personalities! What makes a run of them fun?? is that they are happy beings! people love them because they are people with a lot of charisma any of them!! and that that you can not "invent" I see other groups and for me they have zero charisma!! They are young boys with zero personality who only do what they are told to do! and also do not produce their music. Bts has a bond between them that I've never seen in a group! they really love each other and care and support each other. that's why they got this far. People are inspired by them and find joy in them. because? for their particular personalities! people find a shelter of love in them. and that is not something that "can be manufactured" I have seen many comments on your channel and other networks from people who think like me. I DON'T LIKE KPOP, I LIKE BTS bts are unique and now they are ruining them with the military service that they deserved to exempt!! It breaks my soul that they ruin their career at their best and put them in danger after all they have done! not only for society, but this bang pd guy should take care of them like gold after THEY were the ones who brought big hit out of ruin and made the company it is today! from all that bts has earned about 20 million each, which is very little! being that the company has earned Billions and contributed to Korea also billions!! They have been exploited a lot.And now, instead of taking care of them and claiming an exemption, they ruin them! and not only his career but EMOTIONALLY!! How do you think they feel about having to leave everything they've achieved with hard work, being on top of the world! when they could continue getting even MORE things! They could go on a world tour and fill the biggest stadiums in the world! and instead of that go to a barracks to be treated like garbage and wear out their physiques and make their lives bitter!! I think bts doesn't realize the POWER HE HAS. Those 7 guys with their fandom of 100 million people are more powerful than the government and the company itself!! if they had said, "we want to continue our careers, please don't cut us all off right now" and made VALID for all their achievements the army would have supported them and demanded that they be exempted I can't understand how they just settle for "ok, the government doesn't exempt us so let's go" when it is more than clear that they have PLENTY of merits to exempt. How is it that the defense minister made any ridiculous excuse for not exempting them and that remains as if nothing? and you have to "pay attention to what he says" even if it's something absurd!?? It hurts me to see the level of submission of bts! when they have a LOT of power in their hands! And they could make everything change. They are guys with a huge heart, they really are a manifestation of love, kindness, joy, simplicity and good values!! and that is very difficult to see in artists today! and military service is THE OPPOSITE!! it is violence, abuse, weapons, and everything bad. They are going to take all the smile and joy out of their personalities and ruin them emotionally!! and that annoys me!! 💔😡
Bang PD has no control over the law of the land. They had already investigated exemption. It did not fly because new laws would have to be made just for BTS (and maybe others). Completing military service is a BIG DEAL in Korean society. Their popularity as a group could take a huge hit if they did not go. Look up what happened to Steve Yoo. He tried to avoid military service and it did not go well for him. BTS needs to be seen as having pride in their country and that includes serving in the military like all able bodied Korean men, just as JHope said. They can't turn their backs on it just because a foreigner doesn't like it.
It seems absurd to me that one of the "points" for kpop to continue growing is not: the exemption for kpop groups that have global success like bts!! How can they expect kpop to grow if when they reach stardom as bts they cut off their career at their best moment!! when they have MUCH more to keep achieving! and he does not speak at any time of that! it's stupid!
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It would behoove HYBE to take a hard look at the American juggernauts and not copy most of what they do. It’s an open secret the music industry in the States eats their artists for breakfast! The entertainment, if you can call it that, that is available now is cringeworthy. The emphasis on mindless sexuality is most distasteful and it is not a trend to be embraced by female Korean artists. For the most part the music is predictable. Songwriting has been dumbed down. In short there is nothing appealing about it! HYBE might want to consider Canada as a launching pad to the North American expansion. True it is a drop in a bucket market, but it is a a completely different one. The best comparison I can draw is Americans want the entire experience, the lights, the sparklers, fire, the speakers on acid, the sis-boom ba! And good on them! Meanwhile in Canada, we are just as pleased to sit in a small venue, a warm atmosphere, while the singer sings his songs, tells a few jokes, happy to share their gift with us, knowing our spirits have been lifted, perhaps our hearts crushed but most certainly feeling we got value for our money.
I agree that a lot of Americans want the noise, but there are maaaaaany Americans who want more substance but can't find it anywhere in the current market. Which is why so many of us are attracted to BTS and their wide-range of genres presented with authenticity. I honestly don't even pay attention to radio or charts because it's all the same crap (as you described so accurately).
@@Anne-pd2hk Here's a weird idea check out some Canadian artists: William Prince (velvet voice Nashville has just discovered him but we want him back) Daniel Caesar, Begonia, Arcade Fire, the Arkells (the world's nicest band) Tegan and Sarah, Bare Naked Ladies, Blue Rodeo (Canada's House Band - every darn song is good!) Doug & the Slugs (Wacky guys Jann Arden (start with Insensitive) and there's two more but I have drawn a blank. There's lots of Canadian compilations on RUclips. ENJOY!
Lee Cox - your thoughtful analysis re the American juggernaut is spot on. As well as all the other cookie cutter mindless acts which pollute the music scene. I love BTS and its evolution over 10+ years. Unfortunately as a Canadian I'm always dismayed about the extraordinary difficulty that Canadian talent IN ALL DOMAINS (music, entertainment, business, technology, scientific discovery etcetc) has in "making it" in our country. They invariably have to go to the USA (& frequently stay for good) to really make it big not only worldwide but also within Canada herself. So sad.
Something I don't understand is: why didn't I ask for an exemption for BTS!! please don't tell me that they "want to go" because it is absolutely absurd and unbelievable!! who in their moment of international glory like them, after sacrificing more than 10 years deciding without pause to get where they are, would want to leave everything to go to a military service that everyone says is horrible and that they have had a VERY bad time! the testimonies of people say that they are treated like garbage, if they are injured or do not care, they make them undergo inhumane tests such as the gas chamber, etc! many are left with significant psychological sequelae. Idols have told how they suffered constant bullying and horrible things! they think bts wants to go!! Why don't they see beyond the obvious of a simple statement that I sure wrote it that way to be in good standing with Korean society!! at the yet to come concert, they looked sad and depressed at a concert in los angeles permission t dance on the 4th day jhope said: i hope this is not the last concert. I could be happy but I still have "a stone in my shoe that bothers me" I am afraid that my biggest fears will come true (if that is not a hint that your fear is the SM!! please!) He also said at an awards ceremony when he was alone: all 7 of us are heartbroken over things we can't say out loud. 😳💔 and so I can continue with many other hints that the boys have said It's unfortunate how my company let them talk about it and REALLY say what they think and feel! At festa 2022 some absolutely heartbroken were noticed! They clearly did not want to leave the group and knowing that they would have to leave everything for military service would destroy anyone! Didn't they see how bad Jin was in his last vlive!? He even said "I'm very sad" and for him to say that really hits me because he always wanted to be happy!! It broke my heart in a thousand!! JK's vlives don't see so well how sad it was that even one of them shed tears! this service destroys bts!! ruin their personalities because they are going to walk out of there with everything but a smile and a cheerful personality!! people say: I'll wait for you! and yes me too but 3 years is unfair and music is very competitive! They will not have the boom of today! and neither will they continue as they were doing until they were 40 years old!! Now is your GOLDEN time! I don't know ANY kpop artist that has come out of there and they are the same as before. BTS DESERVED TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR MUSIC!
Did Bang PD also factor in the Korean or KNetizen cancel culture as far as the development and promotion of talented artist and trainees. As soon as there is some negativity associated with an artist or trainee, the knetizens villify them and the company never stands by their artists. Instead they dump them. Rip Kim Garam and Trainee A JJ. I have my doubts about the quality of future Kpop artists because of the cancel culture.
Caae in point. American artists are rarely dropped by their labels because of a scandal. I mean Travis Scott concerts can result in the loss of lives but he just continues with his career. Countless artists are arrested and are in an out of jail for drugs, assault etc but they get bailed out or get pardoned by the president.😅 . Their careers still flourish while in Korea this would be the end of an artists career.
It’s sad that SM propaganda spewing vitriol about HYBE worked. They’re the only Kpop company I’ve heard of that truly values the artist and treats them well, and doesn’t consider them simple money-making products like other companies do. SM employees and fans truly fell for SM’s lies. Good luck to em under giant money-hungry conglomerate Kakao.
KQE values their artists. There are probably some other less known companies as well, but certainly, HYBE seems to take better care of their artists than the rest of the big 4.
How can nobody understand that this guy DOES NOT CARE about BTS!! They could have done much more than remain silent with the whole issue of the exemption! As you say, it is a powerful company, and perfectly after all that bts has achieved and after having been ambassadors so many times for the benefit of Korea as the UN, White House, Expo, Seoul commercials, erc! Why not ask for an exemption!?? After having won an order of merit medal, they already deserved it! Ahira bts cuts their careers in their prime and endangers their physical and mental health in an army!! when they are people with incalculable cultural value!! Bang ps also missed the opportunity last april when the transition committee of the new government met with him to discuss the exemption of bts and he said "there is no reason to exempt bts" WTF!?? this guy is ungrateful and doesn't care about the members! he sees them as a mere product that he thinks he can replace!! I can't imagine how bts feel after being on top of the world after fighting for more than 10 years of pure sacrifice and leaving everything to go to a barracks to have a bad time! to be treated like trash after they have done everything for their country!! 💔😡 Seeing them one by one and knowing that they won't see each other for a long time is horrible!! they could be doing what they do best: music and concerts and getting back together soon! but not! bang ps did nothing for them and the government is a disgrace! with those ridiculous excuses from the defense minister and the culture minister saying: "let's ask people and see what they think" INCREDIBLE the level of hypocrisy and injustice!! today thousands are crying oor to see bts go through this!
Sorry but I think that SM/Kakao will be a disaster and those stocks are going to tank. Good for the people who were able to make money but the artist aren't going to benefit from this merger the way they would have had HYBE taken over .
This is why sending BTS to the military was short-sighted. Unfortunately Korean law makers and the general voting public are old and mostly conservative and nationalistic. BTS was not popular within Korea until after they became global stars. Just as they got their first hit in the US “Boy With Love,” COVID hijacked the world and BTS never really got the chance to make a real impact before Jin had to enlist. I am glad that Bang Shi-yuk is finally speaking up about the threats to K-Pop’s future. Korea is a young democracy and takes too much for granted, particularly the efforts of its younger generation. This is a wake up call for Koreans and I hope that they finally listen to the changes that must be made for the forecoming future.
Bang PD is a visionary and looks at the big picture and trends. Between him and Namjoon’s leadership, I’m starting to understand how Hybe and BTS went from nothing to the top of the industry.
💜 Cindy 38:40 Bee I Agree With You So Much 💜 Because Of Bang PD And Namjoon’s Leadership And Both Being Visionary’s Is How HYBE And BTS Are Known All Over The World 🌎 And Will Continue To Grow 💜
💜I Purple You 💜
💜 We Will All Continue To Grow Together Because Of KPop 💜
💜A Big Thank You To Bang PD💜 For Creating BTS 💜🙏 A Your Huge Growth With HYBE 💜
@CindyBee I so agree with you. Bang PD is a genius. Through his vision of combining the artists, fans and technology, he created the world's biggest group in BTS. The members popularity grew organically and they inevitably were the ones responsible for their continued, consistent and massive growth through their music, performances, and most importantly, personalities, and have sustained that level and surpassed all other artists in the best way possible - human interaction, virtually through social media and actually through live shows and fan meetings. In fact, in my lifetime, BTS is the biggest group EVER; bigger than The Beatles and Michael Jackson (he's not a group anyway). And I don't see any artist replicating this feat. Finally, I love Seoulite TV. Thank you for this enlightening video. 💜
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@Cindy Bee, I totally agree with you.👍👍✌️✌️
Still i question the leadership of jumping into the SM mess so quickly as they did.
Take it or leave it, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, K-pop is no different from any business.
K-pop is an Entertainment business, therefore, it doesn't matter whether you like Bang PD or not.
If you look at how Asian's Musical status was, it has been K-pop that has been well known but now we have J-pop and other Asian's artists coming up and that is slowing down K-pop popularity until BTS came in to light up the fire.
Yes, K-pop is well known mainly in South Korea but I think things need to be evaluated within K-pop in order for K-pop to be world wide just like BTS as made it well known in the world.
Music entertainment shouldn't be mainly about looking beautiful and handsome according to Korean's beauty standard but should base on talents.
If Bang PD had base on Korean's beauty standard that means RM, J-Hope, Suga, and Jimin wouldn't have been chosen by any of the well-known companies.
Bang PD was confidence and he based his thoughts on talents, therefore, RM, J-Hope, Suga and Jimmin were picked and look where we are now.
BTS did not start K-pop but they paved the way to the international market especially the US.
It doesn't mean there were no artists that came and performed in the US because there were a lot of K-pop members but they never Penetrated the US market as BTS did.
For this reason this is why the statement that says "BTS Paved the Way" meaning out side of Korea especially in the US.
I know folks don't want to accept the fact but let see how many will make it in the US market since BTS will be enlisted in the US.
It is my thought.
And if y’all gonna say they paved the way then let others walk the pavement they’ve paved without y’all trying and hinder other kpop artist from becoming a major success in the west/US cause you don’t want anyone else to be as popular or successful in the west/US as bts yet again your continuously screaming bts paved the way, no one can ever take away what bts has achieved in the west/US no matter who comes after them so why not let others have there chance to shine if their being received well in the west/US
@@lovelydiva06 no one is gatekeeping the the path to success in the western media lol. so many idol groups are already being invited to daytime shows and late night nows, attending music awards, and charting billboard. Maybe you need to redefine your meaning of "success". it won't be the same level of BTS, that's why you probably feel like people are "hindering" your artists.
@@Musubee there are some toxic army who resent TXT and were spamming their music vids.
@@DaisyDee5610 Way to let a small percentage of people influence your perception. There are toxic "fans" in every fandom. You see more ARMY because it's a massive fandom.
@@lovelydiva06 You see what's hindering other groups' success in the west is the quality of their own music. When you want a market to patronize you, you have to offer them something different/unique. Something that people can relate to. The kind of music that makes you think and makes you feel something. You don't want to offer a music lover just the visual of a group/artists all the time because they just wouldn't care.
In short, it's not BTS/ARMY's fault if your favorite groups aren't just good enough to have a global impact. Just like any major artist, BTS didn't have many fans at first, didn't top the music charts at first, didn't win at award shows at first and no one knew them 10 years ago but because of all the hard work they have done and all the patience and persistence they have given in putting up good music, they slowly made their way to the top. They've waited 3-4 years to get big in their home country and 7+ years to expand globally and then there are fans like you who expect your favorites to suddenly get big without much experience and QUALITY in what they offer. BTS paved the way but it doesn't mean they will spoon-feed other groups.
I love how Bang PD explains everything about K-pop. He is genuinely knowledgeable. He is really a committed person whose heart is into music. He loves what he is doing and wants to share it with everybody. Here's hoping that all managers would be like him. More people like him are needed in the industry. I really admire his sincerity and love for the Kpop industry.
Kudos to Bang PD, the David of the music industry against the three Goliaths!!!
Thank you for giving us BTS!!! - grandma army (74 yrs old)
Excellent speech. HYBE is grounded, and it shows. Thank you so much for presenting this.
Thank you Sean for the sharing the speech...Mr Bang is a great leader...for me, among the best thing he created was The Weverse app...it is simply awesome...when our artist goes live, we can see, converse, express our feelings and also help the artist share their feelings or some insecurity with us...that makes it magical...u can see the millions of fans joining the live and interact with artist; but somehow the atmosphere turned into like friends chatting, being less formal. Like recently JK had a 4 hr long concert and took in song requests not forgetting when JK dosed off during another live in front of 15 M friends; it is so endearing...💜
I cannot concentrate when there’s a picture of this beautiful man looking right at us! 😍😍😍
ik right?
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it's like torturing us little by little
V looks so manly..oh god
I am still looking for the jacket he is supposed to be wearing…😊
This breakdown of the speech is so helpful. Appreciate the translation to English. Hybe is moving forward. Keep up presenting this content. So interesting and insightful 👏🏽
oh to be a fly on the wall whenever Bang Si-Hyuk and Kim Namjoon talk about the industry and the future! That would be fascinating
💜 That would be awesome 💜 To Be A Fly 💜
I somehow believe that maybe Namjoon influences Bang PD alot when it comes to Hybes decisions. I feel like he checks with Namjoon to get his opinion on issues. Whereas Jin has nore of a. drinking Hyung relationship with him. Namjoon is probably someone he bounces ideas off that affects the decisions they make for Hybe.
One of my favorite things that he talked about is the health of the artists. While I love being able to interact as a fan, if the artists aren't healthy physically and mentally, then it's not beneficial for me as a fan and it sure isn't beneficial for the artists. I really like PDnim's visions. I hope the industry can become safer for staff and artists. Profit is good, but not on the backs of those who are struggling and suffering from the weight of trying to make said profit.
SEAN: you need to get a job doing audiobooks. Your voice is so relaxing and comforting. Thanks for reading the entire speech.
Thanks for sharing the translation and your personal thoughts. As a consumer of HYBE (Weverse, BTS, Seventeen, New Jeans, etc…) they truly do an amazing job connecting the fans with the artists. The groups I follow have openly expressed their gratitude to Bang and HYBE for giving them the support they need. Not every company is perfect but I believe they are moving in the right direction for the artists and the fans. Also, another RUclips vlogger (DKDK) during the early days of the SM drama looked into the breakdown of employee salaries, HYBE was the highest paying company for executives, artists, and support staffs. Being an international entertainment company the company needs to be equitable in salary considering they acquired Ithaca Holdings. Bang is definitely looking forward and being sustainable. And looking forward to how Bang leads. So far, I’ve been impressed with his leadership.
Thank you for this Sean. I think SM Artists are going to wish they had been taken over by HYBE and in the long run I think HYBE is missing out on a headache with SM. Someone had gotten a hold of contract info toward the end of last year...HYBE artists had the best contracts of all the large companies and SM artists had the worst (after finding out about the founders deals I understand why now). I was rooting for HYBE because I felt it would have been really amazing for SM creatively and I believe PD knows how to maintain SM as SM yet still improving it. I think that Kakao and SM are made for each other but I will miss seeing what amazing impact I think HYBE would have had on SM
Dear Seoulite ,
Your voice.. is 7💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I can listen to your perfection of speech as therapy to the core of my soul.
The upmost difficult business speech spoken with so much grace and punctuation... I could visualise every comma...
You deserve 1 million followers per month!
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Thank you - obrigado- gracias-mercy -grazie- shukran- 고마워요.🧚♀️🦋
If I was an SM artist I would be thinking really seriously about not re-signing when my contract is over…but I guess we will see…
All the other Korean entertainment company CEOs be playing checkers, while Bang PD is playing wizards chess IRL 😂
His playing dnd lmao
If you say so
Bang PD is so ambitious & he never seems to be satisfied. He’s something for sure. I really like him. I like his approach very much & his emphasis on catering to the fans .& listening to the artists! I like how strategic he is & he thinks about future trends & possibilities & he’s not wrong it’s a solid analysis of future events.
@@jupiterj2969 this is about bts future and future of kpop not about V ,besides he looks happy now
I respect so much the Integrity and genius brain of bang PD.
Omg V is hottie 💜💥🌟 ..he is so beautiful 💜🤩
His mention of the Hong Kong hey day really hits home for me. Because they are indeed only memories and it is so so so sad.
Bang PD is brilliant. He has used his voice over and over and I hope more people listen to him. He is shaking up the industry for the better. To bad some can’t understand his vision.
i really loved what he said about respecting the artist as people. and finding talent who wants to make this a a career and not just entertainers for the fame and money.
if you get artists the ability to contribute and have a say in what type of music they want to make makes them happy and proud and want to do more. that´s what happened with BTS
Make this a career is good from a musical point of view. In terms of western music industry, the pace of how music groups and artists are debuted and retired is unthinkable. It requires adjusting longevity over quantity.
@@Haegemon AMEN. Kpop the way it is is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Unless it want to remain niche.
I think, they already had a masterplan, but didn't share with us. It's possible that they start their own agency as soon as they are back from military. I don't think that they want to retire, but they need more time for vacations and personal life. I hope that they work together in the future, but they deserve the freedom to use at least half of their time as they want for individual activities. It's possible that RM become the leader of HYBE eventually.
They can become their own subsidiary label within HYBE.
Still. Will they break through into the western music industry. If their treatment by the grammys is an indicator. They have an uphill battle for acceptance.
@@rosean374 like Drake, said not winning a Grammy, does not define an artist success in the music industry. Having loyal fans who buy tickets to your concerts and buy your products that is success.
@@rosean374 Grammy is nothing anymore. They should dissolve that. They are not fair to foregners and until they are, they are nothingness in my book and alot of others. They rode the shirttails of BTS.
BTS deserve a grammy, and I'm not just saying that because I am Army. Grammy dropped the ball. Grammy's are no more without BTS . There is alot going down without BTS. BTS is more than music and dance. It is a way of life. Of kindness. Of saving so many souls including mine. To love and speak ourselves. BTS is forever💜 Finding our guys saved my life, for real, from myself...
“ Grammy's are no more without BTS” what a clown, mad big time because ur fave didn’t get a prize. If they are nothing as u claim they are why are so desperate to get noticed by nothing. Go out touch some grass u say that only because u are their fan
As you were reading his comments I could not help thinking about Min Yoongi. I feel that at sone point in the future he may be following in the same footsteps of Mr Bang. It would be good for the next step to once again have someone who has come up through the ranks moving K Pop along 💜
And this is why SM will regret fighting off HYBE without even meeting with them. HYBE is a whole company, not just an entertainment company. It is the reason Bang Si Hyuk received the first ever Clive Davis Innovation in Music award presented by the Grammys this year. Bang is a business innovator, leader and genius. Thanks for sharing the whole speech with us Sean. I appreciate you.
Thanks for reading this out!
Thank you for reading Bang PD 's speech and your breakdown and thoughts. It's good to know where he truly stands regarding the present and future of K-Pop
Definitely one of the graters Bang PD never fails to brought in to the table the most relevant aspects to think globally and to prevail relevan by betting in to the public intelligence and look at technology as a way to bring fans and artists closer in a respect and humane manner but what I loved the most “to prepare the artis for the challenge sacrifice that this industry demands but Al so respect them so they can get to love what they’re doing” 💜
The drama occurred because KAKAO was being sneaky. KAKAO was waiting in the shadows pulling the strings of their SM puppets. When HYBE came into the picture they were forced to come out with all their messy and illegal strategies. Good luck to SM artists and I really mean it.
Bang Shi is a visionary so he is really far ahead…..Some of these companies will come around to him he already proved his model works
Thank you for this, fascinating.
SEAN, AGAIN, HE IS MY BOSS CRUSH!!! The man is a GENIUS, VISIONARY, PIONEER. HIS BRAIN IS MAD SEXY. OMG💜 This is my second time hearing this speech. He is not EGO driven. He believed in artistic freedom and growth when he started BH. He said previously he did not like some of the industry practices.
K-Pop is right up there with the importance of semi conductors. YES!
We will see if SM does more than pay lip service and KaKao.
Bang playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers. Sexy Nukim.
There is a man Sam Richards a Sociologist, he was on [The Globalists] Subject: Korea as seen by a world-renowned sociologist. He is talking about Korean K-pop going forward, very interesting, needs to be watched..
Thanks for this Sean! As always, looking out for us, to keep us updated. 💜
Mr Bang is a true creator, has an excellent eye for spotting potential I people,systems, what a legend
Thank you Sean, you are really good at what you do. I admire Hitman Bang's leadership, mindfulness and vision,,, it's hard to concentrate on Bang PD's speech, because Taehyung looks so hotttt. 😂😘🔥🔥
It would be nice if Hybe hires you as a spokesman or advisor or something.
Did I tell you lately that I love you? Lolz. I so enjoy your channel! Thank you
BANG PD is a true leader Thanks for sharing BORAHE
As for the popularity of K Pop in the United States I believe the pandemic and the horrific situation of our political situation played an important role.A lot of us were looking for an outlet to relive our stress and depression for something positive.Who would ever imagine seven guys that wear makeup dressed in satin and singing in Korean would change our lives.The reception from the US fans for BTS And other groups shows they are not just a passing phase. It’s so refreshing to have talented creative artists who are also Nice to look up to.With their popularity and their earning ability the companies need to make sure they take care of them.These are young kids that dedicate themselves to their careers at a critical time in their lives and they mental health and wellbeing are important.BIG Hit the HYBE are one of the better companies in the way they treat their employees. He has always been a positive influence on BTS and their success.
Brillent commentary by HYBE’s president Bang Si-Hyuk
TYSM for the translation..👍made it so much better understand exact details opinions rly helpful. 💜
We'll hear from many people leaving SM in the near future. Kakao needs SM for other reasons than compete in music production. They need creative content as accessory to make themselves grow and gain weight. HYBE's CEO instead is worried about how strong will be this industry to keep being relevant as a company so he's working with that focus. Very interesting speech and intrigued about how this will settle.
Once Kakao Entertainment is an independent IP from Kakao Corp, they can let the whole thing tank, since their core business lies elsewhere. Unlike HYBE whose core business IS MUSIC. Good luck to SM artists and employees. Because SM management have secured their position inside the Kakao ship so they wont sink with the whole lot.
Thanks for translating the speech. Important points made.
Awe i still reminisce the Cantopop era of the 90s but yeah the spark went out and I moved onto manga jpop/rock until I discovered YG 2011 and have been on the hallyu wave since.!
Mr bang is right tho,he does need to scale up if he wants to fight the big U.S. companies but he also need to look into why there is a slow down in the growth of kpop ..has kpop reached its peak already? Or is it because the music sound or group dimension needs to change. Furthermore let's address the elephant in the room ..the past 5 years growth of kpop were that of BTS and many fans are of just BTS
How many armys have gone onto being a multi stan? Not enough and it now shows when bts goes on their hiatus.
World music moves by trends, the same as cinema and fashion. Trends usually start with a bang becoming a fever, and then after a period these slow down, which doesn't mean they die but become globally less relevant until the trend bounces back in a few decades or the next generation.
Loved your take and updates on this Hybe-SM-Kakao saga. Had all the elements of scandal, betrayal and revenge. And with the revelation of EXO-CBX legal fight with SM (which I heard were initiated months ago prior to the tentative final episode of Season 1), I believe hidden embers are only starting to rekindle a fire within. While the concept of slave contracts has been rehashed, it might now be possible to introduce the real reason for inexplicable suppression of activity and comebacks certain groups experience that have left many scratching their heads. Anyways, perhaps you are already somewhere between pre and post-production, but ne'er has the time ever been more ripe for the start of a spin-off series.
BTS ARMY and HYBE are the triumvirate that broke the shell and became a household name like Samsung and Hyundai. It was pure genius and when I learned about Bang PD. I knew it was the.mind behind the phenomenon . South Koreans should listen to Hitman Bang. He makes sense and a real visionary.
Thank you for all you do and for the news in English it is much appreciated 😊
You should do Audio books, you have a beautiful voice for reading.
Thank you again, Sean. Again, i see a lot of comments where people listen or read to react in steady understanding. No one said only BTS can geow out side Korea,anyone can,any groups have their own style,of singing and dance,but how many would have stayed in a group if they have to go through that BTS did,it was not easy for them,they worked hard,went through alot,save their company from bankruptcy ect,but they chose to stay together and fight together for their place,they stayed till today humble,their government and people using and abusing them,dont think narrow minded that they got it easy,no they did not,the practice, work hard,ect ect and still today they dont have attitude that only they the best,they humble themselves before every achievement, they pour trillions into their country,❤and i pray God Bless them even after 2025
He sounds as if he has a good head on his shoulders, looking forward to how he handles the industry in the future. Smart Man
i think the main thing they need to tackle to become mainstream is the reputation of kpop. the crazy fandoms are scaring people away. i think if they show good faith between all labels and work together and have the same main goal for the artist it might help. and they should also focus on highlighting the solo singers and find someone with an amazing voice can translate well on the global market. western people have a grown hate against boybands and also girl Groups but not as much. and when you throw kpop in top og that it makes a dangerous cocktail.
i love BTS, i love them because they speak for themself not only in their music but what they want in general. they were allowed to be goofy and silly and just be themself. it made them happy that people love them for who they are not someone they are told to be. like so many groups before them.
the whole controlment issue is the problem. i know they need to have some rules but let idols clap and smile when other groups perform and let them date and have friends. if fans see that they wont have a problem supporting them.
and fandoms might also lighten up. as of yesterday i saw once and army Communications and congratulating each other and it made me so happy and to see that you might also want to look at more of their music. it is the whole fighting between labels for the top spot is creating those super crazy fandoms. so they need to all work together and not think of themself.
lastly they need music that appeal to western market too. like j-hopes new song and RM´s wildflower is good additions that fit both worlds.
Free will exists, so I'm not sure how you want to change the fans. Btw, it's not like the same toxicity doesn't exist in the fandoms of western artists, it's the same game just less dedicated and less organized.
As for actions between artists, I agree it should be more lose, but it will take some time. There have always been interactions though. I know from my second fandom MOA for TXT, that the leader Soobin had a first cross ever live (not just shirt visit) with Seventeens Seungkwan. I thought that was great. They said that it was super hard though to do it, based on the fact that idols have busy schedules it took then 5 month to finally be able to do it.
TXT have also lots of friends in other groups like Ateez, Stray Kids, Enhypen etc. and show that on award shows. It was kinda the same with BTS until they became superstars and people bscked off. They didn't intend that, but it just happened, and Jin as well as Suga talked about that openly on the veriety shows. I think they really try to break that by openly tslkimg about it and trying hard to open mlre to others. I mean SUGA did a Tik Tok dance challenge with TXT, j-hope with everyone and wven though I hate the app, if things like these help, why not. I also think people will see them as more normal after they did military time.
What I hope for are more normal interactions with females, but it will take more time. On the other side, Kpop has already been there, so it can go back.
@@dagmarbubolz7999 You have to admit. Kpop fandoms are ON ANOTHER LEVEL OF TOXIC.
This is very true. Being welcome and open is vitally important.
U are very naive about the frind and dating part, a big selling point of group in particolare of boy group is selling the boyfriend fantasy, even more in kpop where music is more on the level of a tshirt
Very Smart Man👏
Thank you for bringing this to us Sean. I really enjoy your content and how you bring important issues to the forefront.
Thank you for reading this. I was not in the mood to read it myself😁
Two distinct visions for acquiring SM. I know which one I'd want to work for.
Yes...their evolution was fantastic over the 10 yrs. And frankly the mega powerhouse original CEO Big Hit (now Chairman of Hybe) Bang Si-Hyuk is a genius with his forward thinking risk-taking approach to the K-pop industry. Unfortunately from a medical standpoint I fear for his long-term health.
Thank you.
ARMYs already knew what Bang PD was trying to do. I was wondering why he didn’t mention all this at the time during the drama. I guess others didn’t do their research on his past words, like DKDKTV.
I'm grinning because Hitman Bang, while explaining his management and production strategies, also just subtly explained why another company hasn't been able to create 'the next BTS'. Very simply, most other companies don't do what he did: they don't emphasize the creativity and individuality of their artists, they don't work WITH the artists, and they don't experiment. They put the money in, but they don't invest the time. They call it luck and intuition and pass it off as a fluke when actually it's just a departure from industry standards. Which, of course, was exactly what Big Hit was severely criticized and ostracized for; they broke the old standards and created new ones and how dare they?! This is pretty much Hitman Bang's 'I told you so' to everyone who gave him and BTS attitude. And the real irony is that if people just paid attention, they would see that he's been doing this all along. This press release is insightful, but I don't think ARMYs are at all surprised to hear Bang-nim being his usual consistently innovative, think outside the box, focus on the artist, improve connections between artist and fan self. The big question is, which companies will listen to and act on his advice? I'm kinda thinking Kakao won't.
I'm very curious to see what happens with Weverse and Bubble going forward; I've been wishing HYBE would develop their own stream/view platform and pull away from Spotify-who-filters and RUclips-who-freezes-and-deletes, and also refuses to disclose their view-count data. I had a feeling that improving that would be one of the things HYBE would want to prioritize; live-streaming is such a good way to get past the physical seat limitations of stadium and arena shows. AND it would make all of us fans so much less dependent on Ticketmaster (insert swearing) and really devalue scalping.
Something I picked up- I trust the source, K-PopShock, but anything that comes from 'industry insiders' is a bit doubtful, so take it as rumor- apparently, many of the SM contracts for their solo and group artists are due to end this year/next year. And the word that's drifting around is that these artists are unwilling to re-contract to SM with Kakao in charge of management. I think this may help explain why Hitman Bang and HYBE backed off instead of running with the stock bidding war. If all they have to do is wait for the idol exodus and then offer contracts to these now-free-agents..... then they will have broadcast rights over at SM *and* management rights over THEIR new contractees. Who would just happen to already be highly popular and experienced idols.
(And on a side note, what a blow that'd be for MBC, who continues to stupidly ban all HYBE artists from appearing on their broadcasts.)
The average contract is 7 years, so many NCT members should be nearing the end of their contracts.
Artists also are aware when they will play second fiddle in other companies should they transfer. when they can be the first fiddle in their own company. Artists just dont jump to a bigger company. They likely to sign with a smaller company that focus solely on them. Ie to anyone thinking that SM artist are ready to junp ship to Hybe when their contract is up.
@@rosean374 That's a logical argument, but the fact is that even the small companies will have their own groups in training that they'd want to focus on. Remember, there's over 4K entertainment companies in SK; not all of them train idol groups, but those that do almost always have several groups active and several more being trained. Finding trainees is not a problem when it's time to recruit, but squeezing a whole new group in and disrupting the entire train-and-debut schedule is another matter entirely.
Plus, a small company will have considerably less of a budget for a newly-hired former rival than a powerhouse company. And there's the question of salary, as well. A group like EXO or NCT is probably not going to sign a contract for rookie wages.
Bts being able to break into the west/US and becoming a global success was more so luck right place right time and having that hit that took off in the west, than anything else cause if it was just what the companies are doing there would be more successes like bts cause it’s not like some kpop groups that don’t have music that appeals to american listeners
@@lovelydiva06 That's really not true. Hitman Bang was the first CEO to concentrate on reaching the Western audiences; the standard K-pop tactic is to gain an audience in Korea first, then branch out to the East, and finally approach the West.
The standard K-pop tactic is to wait patiently for Korean TV and radio to notice a group and begin inviting them to promote; Hitman Bang didn't care to wait and didn't like how the media was treating idols- his own boys got verbally abused and insulted- so he bypassed the media and went straight to the internet. The company even established their own little variety show; that's what Run BTS was born from.
Another standard K-pop tactic is for the company to write and produce the songs and the idols to sing and dance what they're told, how they're told, when they're told. They do not get input; idols have been thrown out of their groups for daring to question or suggest changes to their management. Hitman Bang wanted his boys to express their own experiences and connect with their listeners, and from that came BTS working with writers, producers, and choreographers, and settling the line distribution among themselves. BigHit didn't always use their suggestions, but they were free to suggest and ask questions.
Typically, K-pop idols have very limited interactions with their fans, as management decides what they may say, when they may say it, when they may acknowledge fans and when they have to ignore them. BTS were among the first to interact directly with fans via Twitter, to release personal logs, and to show the behind-scenes efforts of practices and mv shootings.
None of that is luck or coincidence.
Bang pd is a visionary he is a good man thinking about others that is why he is loved 🥰 💜more power to him
I am watching this on May 30, 2024 and in the midst of the Hybe vs Ador CEO fiasco. Listening to the whole speech convinces me that Bang PD is a very wise businessman. There may have been mistakes here and there or decisions that may seem harsh to the GP. However, I respect the choices that he has made so far as well as the vision he has for growth and expansion. There are anti's who say BTS should leave BigHit/Hybe because they hate Bang PD. Where would BTS go? To SM? Start their own label? BTS members are artists who are still breaking the boundaries of their own artistry. They still need Bang PD to handle the tedious and exhausting matter of running the business. Maybe in 5-10 yrs, they will be ready. I hope by then, all the legal battles from 2024 are long gone, most of what Bang PD said in his speech has materialized and some, if not all, of BTS members are directors-in-training, preparing for Bang PD's turnover to them.
Hybe/Bang Si-hyuk seems like they do everything by the books and are transparent.
Mr. Bang, I love a sexy brain. You stated plainly why K-pop must globalize and modernize to remain viable. Hybe has endured disrespectful talk from people who understand visuals, but don't understand the business. Numerous times those same folk have sought to dismiss the American music market as unimportant. I have one word for that, BEYONCE! K-pop has only 1 artist who can perform at her level. Mr. and Mrs. Carter are discovering and preparing new artist to continue the legacy of American music dominance. It's only a matter of time before they compile a group to out K-pop, K-pop. With BTS out of the picture, there's a vacuum waiting to be filled. English speaking artist will have an advantage, but only real performers, those who can dominate the stage, will succeed. K-pop visuals age, their way of performing and lack of diversity leads to stagnation. Longevity should be the focus of every artist and company. Being innovative, creative and collaborative are vital tools of longevity. Sexy brain Hitman Bang, gets it. Sean, thanks for sharing Hybe's vision, current and future, with your viewers. It was very helpful.
Wait r u suggesting Beyoncé will enter K-pop space? That’s the most ridiculous thing ever heard. If K-pop falters, the vacuum will not be filled by dinosaurs like Beyoncé or Gaga etc. K-pop represents and appeals to alternative musical genre in the West. This is why K-pop will never be mainstream in West no matter what Hybe tells their investors. Beyoncé/Gaga already occupy dominant mainstream position in world music. If they’re looking at K-pop space it’s purely out of curiosity or intrigue of the genre they may not understand and it’s crazed active but niche fanbase
“ alternative musical genre in the West” girl they make the same lame shit they make in the west… literally the people that the company get to make their song are from the west
@@sofypi7493 Not really..but if you want to tell yourself tuna taste the same as chicken go right ahead.
Why is the market declining in SE Asia? Is the music market oversaturated?
The trainee process sounds just like Motown’s artist development in the 1960’s.
I heard that is where KPOP gets it from.
Quick question: Do idol contracts pause during mil service? Like a 7 year contract is then 7 years PLUS 18 months enlistment? Asking bcs of the contract expiry date given in the IPO by HYBE.
Some one says business is business no matter... I am just glad that it was and is until now Bang pd that is handling BTS. He believes and push them to be become who they are now. Thank you Sean for reading for us the speech.
But it’s still business at the end of the day just cause he speaking fantasy words don’t mean he’s not about business, like anyone else running a business especially in regards to kpop, it’s business and making money hence why they were trying to acquire sm shares cause that’s more talent I.e. more money
He’s really looking into the future of K-pop.
He has very interesting outlooks for the industry.
I hope that he’s successful in achieving his goals.
💜
Sm seems to just want to do well in South Korea. Hybe would have been good for them. A lot of times, though, companies that start something like sm did aren't willing to change their ways. To each his own, but I think it was a dumb move to not go with hybe.
I was truly amazed I can tell how much he truly believes in people not just $$$ he knows the $$$ but cares for music ,artists, fans I'm impressed with all he said.
Bang PD is a genius in the k-pop industry that’s why it’s no wonder that BH/HYBE managed to beat the top three labels and spreading their influence globally.
Well. They still have an uphill battle of acceptance in the western music industry. If the snubs at the Grammys is any indicator.
@@rosean374 yes it’s uphill but for what its worth kpop lovers don’t care about scammys
@@rosean374 The Grammy's, are bias towards boy bands. They do not consider them as real musicians that's why no boy band have ever won a Grammy.
I hope the govt and the military realizes how much money they're losing with BTS' enlistment. Im sure they already feel a pinch and would eventually reconsider
It's time to let go buddy,,,,the boys already started this chapter
It's far too late to reconsider and it was always obvious they would have to do it in the end.
I heard this from a k-army idk if this is true The govt gave the people the option if bts will enlist or not but bts already annouce that they will enlist, I hope Jin stays safe bc I heard from k-armys that he's on the north korean board the most dangerous one
SM CAN BE SM WITH ONLY BY THEM ITSELFS NO ONE CAN MAINTAIN SM's BLOOD RHYTHM ONLY SM WITH SM CAN! I WISH MIRACLE HAPPENS WITH ARTISTS COME TOGETHER TAKE CONTROL OF SME BY THEM.
Top tip: avoid using all capital letters. It reads as if you’re *SHOUTING* 👍
Loved the Kardashian dig!
There was a good comment about moving kpop more into freeing their artists to become more like independent artists who create their own music. But she must have deleted it due to the rigorous replies she was getting, including from me. Which is a pity because she had very good points to make. Meanwhile, trolls and unhinged comments are still all over this comment section. This is the ultimate failure of a place like RUclips to achieve anything productive in the comment section and through content creation, at least in the kpop space. What a pity.
43:15 Just want to remind you, HYBE is the blank slate that already proved their method works. Their artists are gaining on a global level. SM would be no different than the other sub labels under HYBE. That includes Big Hit, Pledis, Source Music, etc.
Do you know that Bang’s dad was a workers’ union fighter?
Sean. I would love to know your opinion of Hybe's non response to Billboard hot 100 changing the rules to knock BTS Jimin out of first place on his solo album Face.
I honestly hope Bang PD doesn’t take it too hard when he realizes ..it’s BTS. It’s always been BTS. K-pop isn’t doing anything Great, it’s BTS that is, but K-pop just jumped on their coat tails. ARMY could have told you this. Bang, if your reading this, listen to it.
It's true. BTS was the epitome of kpop group success, so anyone trying to replicate that is going to keep failing for the foreseeable future. New Jeans has potential with their similar authenticity, but they need time to grow and become their own voices. I think they can get there but need space and time to be allowed to do it, and that's if the members decide this really is the life for them.
I honestly think the next big Korean artist (that isn't a BTS member) is going to be either a soloist or duo because people are fatigued keeping up with the massive groups. Whoever it is will be someone who has ditched the bad boy or bad girl schtick and shows a more down-to-earth side that was popular among 90s icons like Jewel or similar acts. Music happens in cycles and this one is coming to an end.
BTS only existed over the work of many other before. So, is not only BTS, but them became the "gold fever" moment.
@@Haegemon BTS persevered despite prior acts failing to break into the west and despite the big companies holding them back. Let's not pretend the industry gave them a boost. Inspiration, yes -- help breaking through, no.
I really liked his speech. I feel he treats his artists better than alot of companies. The only thing I would say is if he wants to compete with the American companies, more of the kpop songs need English versions. I love the music as is but alot of people don't listen.
Well that says u rly haven’t listened to music 🎶 if u’re concerned abt the translation to English. BTS would of never reached their level popularity success in US if that was a legit concern…by their fandom. 💜
American companies have a diversified set of artists beyond borders. They cover most of the market for English speakers but also got latin music and other generes and languages. Some Bjork works were published by Universal Music for example. From a corporative point of view the issue isn't about having more Kpop in english but if a Korean Music Company can manage artists not related to Korea, and HYBE now is doing it through their adquisitions in the U.S.
I'm not saying BTS hasn't reached millions of fans in the US with their music. I am saying I can say to most people I'm a BTS fan and I get the same reaction no matter the age. I have heard of them but I don't know their music. They do not get the radio air play on their non English songs as they do with their English songs... Most people say it doesn't matter, but it does if you want them to take over the American market. By the way, I prefer their Korean songs. Just saying what I see.
He cares about music,artists ,staff and fans.
He cares about the health.
Artistry.
I really feel for Bang it seems like he actually wants to make a huge impact on the world. And “losing” SM really hurt his expansion.
No not really, Mr Bang Hybe Chairman
was the one decided to let it go, because to him it was never was about power for greed for money, it's about make the right decision for his business, However He does wish He could save SM Artist or Idols, because KAKAO only thinks about more power and money greed for their own benefits to use SM Company for something else and not cares about SM Idols or Artist at all, which means SM Artist or Idols will not get paid much or hardly nothing at all to help themselves, and their families which is why Mr Bang feels sad for because He knows how talented these SM idols are ok, So that's why He said, and I quote said SM Artist or Idols needs to think about their future more when it comes to KAKAO take over SM, but these SM idols will find out at end how KAKAO works at end they may not like it how these People operates in SM company at end.
(Translated by Google)
Actually BANGPD chairman HAD won because acquiring PLATFORMs like WEVERSE AND BUBBLE is more profitable, so SM now its up to them deal with their artists...
@@eight8592 mmmm true!!
@@Xstarzones2 Yeah, that's what's so sad because SM artists are about to be (hopefully not) overworked with no pay. Do you personally think some artists will leave sm?
SM unfortunately lost an opportunity to become more successful under HYBE. Like attracts like and their merger with Kakao was better for them in their eyes. Mr. Bang or the godfather of K-Pop, because he has turned his company into a global entity; had SM's artists in his heart while trying to acquire SM. He is absolutely right in all fronts when it comes to the entertainment business. SM and Kakao should take notes. 😉
HYPE feels that it is very risky to depend on BTS for revenue. Maybe that is why PD Bang says they are not sure whether BTS will return as a group. Maybe he wants army to focus on other group.😅. For me, I am BTS Army for life.
Maybe BTS is just done with ARMY. Ever thought about that? Being forced to be the people ARMY wants for the rest of their lives? While ARMY carries on with their own lives getting married having children getting older?
Hybe still has their shares and they are a K-pop company Kakao is not. Hybe may be sitting back to watch Kakao fail then they can go in and save SM. Or maybe like you said maybe the artists will get together with each other and their families and get the rest of the stock and take control of the company. I still think they would be better off with Hybe.
LOL SM WILL BE BETTER WITH ONLY SM ITSELF. I WISH SM ARTISTS TAKE CONTROL OF SME.
5:00. Ironic is the fact Bang PD sees and hopes for a HYBE without his founder. The same as Lee Soo Man with SM Entertainment 😢
Not the same. The opposite.
I think as usual hitman bang is a genius at what he does. Thank you for sharing the speech with us.
Ok. I hate that I am going to say something so negative about a group of people I am a part of: KPOP fans.
I've been a KPOP fan for a relatively short amount of time. Yet, I've frequently been scolded and reprimanded.
Now as an elderly person I was shocked and really turned off by this behavior. At the same time there were many fans who were kind and welcoming. I never felt resentful of the fans who have been teaching me about KPOP and BTS in specific.
But, I have found a dark rot that needs to stop. it puts new fans off, chasing them from KPOP. The mean attitude that a few fans exhibit.
I have never once said anything bad about KPOP in general or about specific groups. I have merely stated an opinion here and there, none of it nasty. Having a different opinion shouldn't mean a rabid 'corrector' should slam you/me.
I also think it is not good to hear from other new fans they are being attacked, scolded or roasted. This is NOT a good behavior.
I apologize for sneaking this only peripherally related comment here. But it is part of growing KPOP as a world level brand.
Your thoughts are relevant. I understand your hesitancy to express this opinion, however, as I was listening to the strategy employing new platforms such as Weverse and the enormous cash cow it could become I immediately wondered how fandoms would be managed and toxic behaviours towards some artists would be dealt with. It will be interesting to see how it develops when business is on the line.
Sean, hi from Uruguay 🇺🇾 💜
I know you care about bts for your other videos as much as I do.
You don't find it ironic that bang pd says that "he cares about further expanding kpop in the world and at the same time sends bts to military service?????
I'm actually SO mad at this guy for doing NOTHING to exempt bts.
In the whole interview I think this guy doesn't realize that the Korean wave is basically BTS. And that if bts disappears by going to the army there will not be "another bts"
Seeing his words, it seems that he wants to "create" successful kpop groups like someone who makes any product.
In my opinion bts is more than just aesthetics, it's more than original songs, it's more than everything that says a group needs to succeed! What attracted me the most to bts is the abilities of each one that I have not seen in any other group: for example, Jimin's dance! I've never seen someone dance like that!
JK's voice, suga and rm's intelligence and producer skill.
and also the personalities!
What makes a run of them fun??
is that they are happy beings! people love them because they are people with a lot of charisma any of them!! and that that you can not "invent"
I see other groups and for me they have zero charisma!! They are young boys with zero personality who only do what they are told to do! and also do not produce their music.
Bts has a bond between them that I've never seen in a group! they really love each other and care and support each other. that's why they got this far.
People are inspired by them and find joy in them.
because? for their particular personalities!
people find a shelter of love in them.
and that is not something that "can be manufactured"
I have seen many comments on your channel and other networks from people who think like me.
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bts are unique and now they are ruining them with the military service that they deserved to exempt!! It breaks my soul that they ruin their career at their best and put them in danger after all they have done! not only for society, but this bang pd guy should take care of them like gold after THEY were the ones who brought big hit out of ruin and made the company it is today!
from all that bts has earned about 20 million each, which is very little! being that the company has earned Billions and contributed to Korea also billions!!
They have been exploited a lot.And now, instead of taking care of them and claiming an exemption, they ruin them! and not only his career but EMOTIONALLY!!
How do you think they feel about having to leave everything they've achieved with hard work, being on top of the world! when they could continue getting even MORE things! They could go on a world tour and fill the biggest stadiums in the world! and instead of that go to a barracks to be treated like garbage and wear out their physiques and make their lives bitter!!
I think bts doesn't realize the POWER HE HAS. Those 7 guys with their fandom of 100 million people are more powerful than the government and the company itself!!
if they had said, "we want to continue our careers, please don't cut us all off right now" and made VALID for all their achievements the army would have supported them and demanded that they be exempted
I can't understand how they just settle for "ok, the government doesn't exempt us so let's go"
when it is more than clear that they have PLENTY of merits to exempt.
How is it that the defense minister made any ridiculous excuse for not exempting them and that remains as if nothing? and you have to "pay attention to what he says" even if it's something absurd!??
It hurts me to see the level of submission of bts! when they have a LOT of power in their hands! And they could make everything change.
They are guys with a huge heart, they really are a manifestation of love, kindness, joy, simplicity and good values!! and that is very difficult to see in artists today!
and military service is THE OPPOSITE!! it is violence, abuse, weapons, and everything bad.
They are going to take all the smile and joy out of their personalities and ruin them emotionally!! and that annoys me!! 💔😡
Bang PD has no control over the law of the land. They had already investigated exemption. It did not fly because new laws would have to be made just for BTS (and maybe others). Completing military service is a BIG DEAL in Korean society. Their popularity as a group could take a huge hit if they did not go. Look up what happened to Steve Yoo. He tried to avoid military service and it did not go well for him. BTS needs to be seen as having pride in their country and that includes serving in the military like all able bodied Korean men, just as JHope said. They can't turn their backs on it just because a foreigner doesn't like it.
It seems absurd to me that one of the "points" for kpop to continue growing is not: the exemption for kpop groups that have global success like bts!!
How can they expect kpop to grow if when they reach stardom as bts they cut off their career at their best moment!! when they have MUCH more to keep achieving!
and he does not speak at any time of that! it's stupid!
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It would behoove HYBE to take a hard look at the American juggernauts and not copy most of what they do. It’s an open secret the music industry in the States eats their artists for breakfast! The entertainment, if you can call it that, that is available now is cringeworthy. The emphasis on mindless sexuality is most distasteful and it is not a trend to be embraced by female Korean artists. For the most part the music is predictable. Songwriting has been dumbed down. In short there is nothing appealing about it!
HYBE might want to consider Canada as a launching pad to the North American expansion. True it is a drop in a bucket market, but it is a a completely different one. The best comparison I can draw is Americans want the entire experience, the lights, the sparklers, fire, the speakers on acid, the sis-boom ba! And good on them!
Meanwhile in Canada, we are just as pleased to sit in a small venue, a warm atmosphere, while the singer sings his songs, tells a few jokes, happy to share their gift with us, knowing our spirits have been lifted, perhaps our hearts crushed but most certainly feeling we got value for our money.
I agree that a lot of Americans want the noise, but there are maaaaaany Americans who want more substance but can't find it anywhere in the current market. Which is why so many of us are attracted to BTS and their wide-range of genres presented with authenticity. I honestly don't even pay attention to radio or charts because it's all the same crap (as you described so accurately).
@@Anne-pd2hk Here's a weird idea check out some Canadian artists: William Prince (velvet voice Nashville has just discovered him but we want him back) Daniel Caesar, Begonia, Arcade Fire, the Arkells (the world's nicest band) Tegan and Sarah, Bare Naked Ladies, Blue Rodeo (Canada's House Band - every darn song is good!) Doug & the Slugs (Wacky guys Jann Arden (start with Insensitive) and there's two more but I have drawn a blank. There's lots of Canadian compilations on RUclips. ENJOY!
@@leecox6241 Ooh -- Arcade Fire! I have to check out the rest. :)
Lee Cox - your thoughtful analysis re the American juggernaut is spot on. As well as all the other cookie cutter mindless acts which pollute the music scene. I love BTS and its evolution over 10+ years. Unfortunately as a Canadian I'm always dismayed about the extraordinary difficulty that Canadian talent IN ALL DOMAINS (music, entertainment, business, technology, scientific discovery etcetc) has in "making it" in our country. They invariably have to go to the USA (& frequently stay for good) to really make it big not only worldwide but also within Canada herself. So sad.
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Something I don't understand is: why didn't I ask for an exemption for BTS!!
please don't tell me that they "want to go" because it is absolutely absurd and unbelievable!!
who in their moment of international glory like them, after sacrificing more than 10 years deciding without pause to get where they are, would want to leave everything to go to a military service that everyone says is horrible and that they have had a VERY bad time! the testimonies of people say that they are treated like garbage, if they are injured or do not care, they make them undergo inhumane tests such as the gas chamber, etc! many are left with significant psychological sequelae. Idols have told how they suffered constant bullying and horrible things!
they think bts wants to go!!
Why don't they see beyond the obvious of a simple statement that I sure wrote it that way to be in good standing with Korean society!!
at the yet to come concert, they looked sad and depressed
at a concert in los angeles permission t dance on the 4th day jhope said: i hope this is not the last concert. I could be happy but I still have "a stone in my shoe that bothers me" I am afraid that my biggest fears will come true
(if that is not a hint that your fear is the SM!! please!)
He also said at an awards ceremony when he was alone:
all 7 of us are heartbroken over things we can't say out loud.
😳💔 and so I can continue with many other hints that the boys have said
It's unfortunate how my company let them talk about it and REALLY say what they think and feel!
At festa 2022 some absolutely heartbroken were noticed!
They clearly did not want to leave the group and knowing that they would have to leave everything for military service would destroy anyone!
Didn't they see how bad Jin was in his last vlive!? He even said "I'm very sad" and for him to say that really hits me because he always wanted to be happy!!
It broke my heart in a thousand!!
JK's vlives don't see so well how sad it was that even one of them shed tears!
this service destroys bts!! ruin their personalities because they are going to walk out of there with everything but a smile and a cheerful personality!!
people say: I'll wait for you! and yes me too but 3 years is unfair and music is very competitive! They will not have the boom of today! and neither will they continue as they were doing until they were 40 years old!!
Now is your GOLDEN time! I don't know ANY kpop artist that has come out of there and they are the same as before.
BTS DESERVED TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR MUSIC!
Did Bang PD also factor in the Korean or KNetizen cancel culture as far as the development and promotion of talented artist and trainees. As soon as there is some negativity associated with an artist or trainee, the knetizens villify them and the company never stands by their artists. Instead they dump them. Rip Kim Garam and Trainee A JJ. I have my doubts about the quality of future Kpop artists because of the cancel culture.
Caae in point. American artists are rarely dropped by their labels because of a scandal. I mean Travis Scott concerts can result in the loss of lives but he just continues with his career. Countless artists are arrested and are in an out of jail for drugs, assault etc but they get bailed out or get pardoned by the president.😅 . Their careers still flourish while in Korea this would be the end of an artists career.
It’s sad that SM propaganda spewing vitriol about HYBE worked. They’re the only Kpop company I’ve heard of that truly values the artist and treats them well, and doesn’t consider them simple money-making products like other companies do. SM employees and fans truly fell for SM’s lies. Good luck to em under giant money-hungry conglomerate Kakao.
KQE values their artists. There are probably some other less known companies as well, but certainly, HYBE seems to take better care of their artists than the rest of the big 4.
How can nobody understand that this guy DOES NOT CARE about BTS!!
They could have done much more than remain silent with the whole issue of the exemption!
As you say, it is a powerful company, and perfectly after all that bts has achieved and after having been ambassadors so many times for the benefit of Korea as the UN, White House, Expo, Seoul commercials, erc! Why not ask for an exemption!??
After having won an order of merit medal, they already deserved it!
Ahira bts cuts their careers in their prime and endangers their physical and mental health in an army!! when they are people with incalculable cultural value!!
Bang ps also missed the opportunity last april when the transition committee of the new government met with him to discuss the exemption of bts and he said "there is no reason to exempt bts"
WTF!??
this guy is ungrateful and doesn't care about the members! he sees them as a mere product that he thinks he can replace!!
I can't imagine how bts feel after being on top of the world after fighting for more than 10 years of pure sacrifice and leaving everything to go to a barracks to have a bad time! to be treated like trash after they have done everything for their country!! 💔😡
Seeing them one by one and knowing that they won't see each other for a long time is horrible!!
they could be doing what they do best: music and concerts and getting back together soon! but not!
bang ps did nothing for them and the government is a disgrace! with those ridiculous excuses from the defense minister and the culture minister saying: "let's ask people and see what they think"
INCREDIBLE the level of hypocrisy and injustice!!
today thousands are crying oor to see bts go through this!
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Sorry but I think that SM/Kakao will be a disaster and those stocks are going to tank. Good for the people who were able to make money but the artist aren't going to benefit from this merger the way they would have had HYBE taken over .
This is why sending BTS to the military was short-sighted. Unfortunately Korean law makers and the general voting public are old and mostly conservative and nationalistic. BTS was not popular within Korea until after they became global stars. Just as they got their first hit in the US “Boy With Love,” COVID hijacked the world and BTS never really got the chance to make a real impact before Jin had to enlist. I am glad that Bang Shi-yuk is finally speaking up about the threats to K-Pop’s future. Korea is a young democracy and takes too much for granted, particularly the efforts of its younger generation. This is a wake up call for Koreans and I hope that they finally listen to the changes that must be made for the forecoming future.