I think Forbidden Dropplet at 3 is a must if you are going for the Toybox engine since it gives u another way to send your toy soldier and tank if you are missing souls/ioc. I would also consider playing more ioc/prep when playing toybox since they are rarely a brick even without toybox in your hand. And Cartesia plus Quem are also to good to not be played in DM ToyBox.
A striker engine can work too, have a few higher link monster (link 3 and 4) to keep engange alive to get the extra advantage even with toybox. And if you plau raw ref you just put goon to the extra monster zone
It might be worth exploring a pseudo smokescreen strategy. Dragoon is most powerful when using his double pops. Sidedeck 3 Ref, 3 Insight, 3 Thrust and switch them out for some of main deck's extenders only. Keep the handtraps and staples in the main and not side them out.
I think Magician of Chaos is actually really good in Dark Magician. It can trigger dark magician support cards, has 2 really strong effects, can be revived with magicians' soul, and if summoned with advanced ritual arts it can send dark magician from Deck to GY. I also think The Dark Magicians is better than dragoon if u can summon multiple copies, cuz drawing into handtraps can give you more interruptions than 1 dragoon can.
I use DM with toy box and Diviner of the Herald. In Extra, dragoon, baronne and winda. But with white forest, you can summon dragoon, magia and baronne
Soul drain for malis and Fiendsmith shuts off their recursion. Ultimate slayer will shut off pure ryzeals end board and a non deseray ryzeal fiendsmith board so long as you play aggregator. Kashtira engine is going to be insane because unicorn banishing requiem is really good. If you can afford it, the fiendsmith engine in dark magician is fun because it sets up some decent interruption and it’s probably the best thing rod+souls can go into.
0:15 Where do you get the "Rush-like" format for the cards you show? I feel like they look more readable with the Bolded "you can", "once per turn" and so on.
Hi Loza, been testing a lot, and I think the best way to make DM work and compete, is Primite DM. Right now I`m playing with three engines: Toy Box, Grandguignol and the Shaddoll Package, just like Matchie used to play, will share the list on disc!
@LOZA-DM I'll make it. Fingers crossed I get my bystial lubellion today. Been over a month waiting. Rebirth judgment been waiting a week for em to send. Had to get refund from someone who didn't send the buster blader swordsman that destroys all monsters opponent controls. Just just the gain 500 attack buster blader I got. Yeah been having some problems, but it's 99% built thankfully
Going to say white forest had some DM decks. But definitely run toybox and chicken game. Cool thing with chicken game is you can draw a card, send it for WF ss, go into your lvl8 syncro, get back chicken game to draw another card, maybe your also drawing card viva servant Theres still your branded version, maybe Ashen, or perhaps primordial. Ill be honest with dragoon it isn't what it used to be. To many outs now a days. I can't keep one on board typoon is a real thing along with all the other cards you mentioned.
The best way to play DM would honestly be to play White Forest with IOC/Souls package. "But that isn't Dark Magician!" Okay, so play 1 vanilla to send off Souls and fuse with through the Muddy/Albion combo. I don't think anyone can say it's not a Dark Magician deck if it literally has Dark Magician in it.
@@djjjjjd so true Ive posted decks with 21 Dm specific cards in the main deck and had people in the comments say it's not a dm deck.. taught me we should play however we please.
Best of luck at the YCS! Routing for you ! The game is in such an odd place in regards to DM, in an otherwise healthy format. Feels like so many things are viable, but are bad into the current format. It’s gona be a lot of work trying to figure out a way to put DM in a “comfy” spot.
Idk if crossrose dragon is available in tcg but its a consideration with verte or another plant to get to rose dragon synchros while allowing you to summon with souls and spirit of eyes of blue
Realistically, you need 15 handtraps at a minimum, this isn't a DM issue, its the format. You'll also want going second tools like Talents. Big board breakers like Nib are still decent. Bystials are decent and have some synergy with the deck during this format as well. I'm skeptical of Maximus, Ryzeal would love to have certain XYZs in the grave for Twins. I'm very iffy on Dogmatika in general, maybe a punishment splash but even there you're also committing main deck space to a bricky Shadoll Trap. You also probably do not need the apprentice girl, and I could even see outright cutting DMG. Yes it hurts the potential draw power, but consistency is key this format. Part of me even wants to cut down to just 1 DM but I know in a grindier situation, you want 2. Although, he still just not the win-con.
Matchie and I have been bouncing white forest dm ideas back and forth, personally I think white forest is the way to go for dm at the current time brother, will send you some stuff on pms x
I'm testing this list: Monsters 1 Dark Magician 1 Dark Magician 1 Red-Eyes Black Dragon 1 Red-Eyes Black Dragon 1 Timaeus the United Dragon 1 Dogmatika Fleurdelis, the Knighted 1 Apprentice Illusion Magician 1 Dark Magician Girl 1 Red-Eyes Black Meteor Dragon 1 Blazing Cartesia, the Virtuous 1 Dogmatika Ecclesia, the Virtuous 1 Toy Soldier 1 Toy Tank 1 Magician's Rod 2 Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring 2 Droll & Lock Bird 3 Magicians' Souls 3 Illusion of Chaos Spells 2 Nadir Servant 1 Preparation of Rites 3 Red-Eyes Fusion 3 Red-Eyes Insight 1 Terraforming 1 Called by the Grave 2 Crossout Designator 1 Secrets of Dark Magic 2 Soul Servant 1 Dark Magical Circle 3 Toy Box 2 Secret Village of the Spellcasters Traps 2 Infinite Impermanence 1 Eternal Soul 1 Shaddoll Schism Extra 1 Dark Magician the Dragon Knight 1 Master of Chaos 2 Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon 1 The Dark Magicians 1 El Shaddoll Apkallone 1 Garura, Wings of Resonant Life 1 El Shaddoll Winda 1 Chaos Angel 1 Super Starslayer TY-PHON - Sky Crisis 1 Underworld Goddess of the Closed World 1 Accesscode Talker 1 Dharc the Dark Charmer, Gloomy 1 S:P Little Knight 1 Relinquished Anima Side 3 Chaos Hunter 3 Artifact Lancea 1 Harpie's Feather Duster 3 Book of Eclipse 3 Dimensional Barrier 2 Evenly Matched
I think the White Forest/Azamina cards are pretty good, Toy Box is clutch and have very good synergy with the best DM cards (Souls), Kashitra just splashes with everything, I've had great success with it in DM and Sarc at least on MD. DMs versatility is its ability to work as a decent draw engine as well as giving access to things like Dragoon. I know DM players dont like to hear it but DM is really are secondary and supplementary engine in the Deck, at least till Konami blesses us with more modern support. Figuring out which of the current available decks and engines work with it is best.
What I've found out is that magicians navigation can bring out Diabellze allowing you to get DM and her to the field that will then bring you a sinful spoils spell alongside having magicians navigation in the graveyard that can help next turn with its effect
you can run a guiding quem and a blazing cartesia instead of the dogmatikas to give you easy access to the winda lock. still searchable off of toy soldier. just need to link a body off to bring the cartesia out and fuse them into granguignol. also chaos angel is easy to make with the toy tank bringing out the dark magician girl. i think cutting the circle,. eternal souls and rod down to 1 is better. less dark magician cards the better. probably dark magician at 1 is fine with that too. i think a second engine like kashiras or the diabel + azamina works well. and more hand traps or just board breakers. droplet works well with the toy box engine. rainbow bridge of salvation is also sendable from magicians souls to give you easy access to secret village.
@@LOZA-DM I think dm control is the best way to play this format. 1 Engine Toy Box, the goal is Winda Lock, because malls and Ryzal have Dark monster. 2 Primite engine the Goal is with 2 bricks Red eyes and DM go into Heratic Seal. Summon in Opponent turn Albaz from deck to Fusion Summon. You could go in dragon with this Strategy. How zu Think about this ?😃
I just spent half an hour writing a very thought out comment on White Forest DM and Going Second REF Turbo, then accidentally refreshed my page and lost it all Might try again later or just message on Discord lol
Diviner of the herald can be a good add in the deck, get to crystal wing with Tzolkin but I guess you already know that, adds consistency for sure. REF without anaconda is garbage, dragoon cannot win the game alone and often not even with some backrow. Toy box is amazing with droplet even more, for the rest... floodgates☠
I like toy box but I just think it's not wise to be running an engine requiring another card to function, while running it in a deck that runs vanilla bricks and other cards that also require other cards in order to then function 🤷♀️ I guess what i'm saying is brick using decks really wanna focus more on 1 card combo cards. toybox adds another layer of bricking I just don't think it's worth it
Well my advice is that you should follow the 70:30 ratio 28 cards(Engines+Techs/Extenders) and 12 cards non engine (Handtraps+Spells/Traps) and salvation gotta go chief, play a 3rd soul servent instead and keep toy soldier, circle and ES at 1
ive been playing with the fiendsmith and toy box engine in dm in a 50 card build. its quite nice since toy box can other than quem also search lacrima and the deck can easily at least get two bodies for fs combo in case u get interrupted
what about "Black illusion'" trap card to protect your dragoon? you cant search it but with circle and upstarts you can draw it more often. with a turbo dragoon deck it would protect him from everything during the opponents turn. plus secret village out there too. am i cooking or nah?😄
I played fiendsmith DM in OCG.. in just 2 card combo can give 5 interruptions, Magician's rod + Primite another beryl End field 2 negate summon of DDD Caesar, 1 masquerena, DM, DMG dark burning magic, And primite banish
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I think Forbidden Dropplet at 3 is a must if you are going for the Toybox engine since it gives u another way to send your toy soldier and tank if you are missing souls/ioc. I would also consider playing more ioc/prep when playing toybox since they are rarely a brick even without toybox in your hand. And Cartesia plus Quem are also to good to not be played in DM ToyBox.
A striker engine can work too, have a few higher link monster (link 3 and 4) to keep engange alive to get the extra advantage even with toybox. And if you plau raw ref you just put goon to the extra monster zone
It might be worth exploring a pseudo smokescreen strategy. Dragoon is most powerful when using his double pops. Sidedeck 3 Ref, 3 Insight, 3 Thrust and switch them out for some of main deck's extenders only. Keep the handtraps and staples in the main and not side them out.
I think Magician of Chaos is actually really good in Dark Magician. It can trigger dark magician support cards, has 2 really strong effects, can be revived with magicians' soul, and if summoned with advanced ritual arts it can send dark magician from Deck to GY. I also think The Dark Magicians is better than dragoon if u can summon multiple copies, cuz drawing into handtraps can give you more interruptions than 1 dragoon can.
@@kuribro443 dark Magicians is a stinker but I agree that magician of chaos is ver good
Why don’t we have a DMG in white artwork? She looks great!
I use DM with toy box and Diviner of the Herald.
In Extra, dragoon, baronne and winda.
But with white forest, you can summon dragoon, magia and baronne
@@AxelMonsterGroot sadly magia is tcg is like 600 bucks 😂
White forest is really growing on me. I cant wait for the azamina stuff to come to md. Great video habibi!!
@@kingmahde1 thank you based habibi!
Soul drain for malis and Fiendsmith shuts off their recursion. Ultimate slayer will shut off pure ryzeals end board and a non deseray ryzeal fiendsmith board so long as you play aggregator. Kashtira engine is going to be insane because unicorn banishing requiem is really good. If you can afford it, the fiendsmith engine in dark magician is fun because it sets up some decent interruption and it’s probably the best thing rod+souls can go into.
My man nailed that yu-gi-oh theme on the piano !!! Awesome !!! ❤
@@SabriEmini yee haw 😎
@@LOZA-DM whats the name of the theme? 🤔 cant remember
0:15 Where do you get the "Rush-like" format for the cards you show? I feel like they look more readable with the Bolded "you can", "once per turn" and so on.
YGO Omega!
Great video. That outro song is nice. 👍
I'd cut out Apprentice Illusion Magician; these days it does nothing for us that other cards can't do better
Hi Loza, been testing a lot, and I think the best way to make DM work and compete, is Primite DM.
Right now I`m playing with three engines: Toy Box, Grandguignol and the Shaddoll Package, just like Matchie used to play, will share the list on disc!
Triple eye of timaeus
@@kaizerdxd imagine 😂😭
That card is not searchable. It's actually bad
I know the Primite cards helps vanilla monsters a lot but, I'd think you need 2 DMs in deck to make use of it.
Hey, I'm also going to YCS Sydney. My first tournament. Taking my buster blader
Good luck, see you there!!
Keen to see the Buster Blader list!
@LOZA-DM I'll make it. Fingers crossed I get my bystial lubellion today. Been over a month waiting. Rebirth judgment been waiting a week for em to send. Had to get refund from someone who didn't send the buster blader swordsman that destroys all monsters opponent controls. Just just the gain 500 attack buster blader I got. Yeah been having some problems, but it's 99% built thankfully
Going to say white forest had some DM decks. But definitely run toybox and chicken game. Cool thing with chicken game is you can draw a card, send it for WF ss, go into your lvl8 syncro, get back chicken game to draw another card, maybe your also drawing card viva servant
Theres still your branded version, maybe Ashen, or perhaps primordial.
Ill be honest with dragoon it isn't what it used to be. To many outs now a days. I can't keep one on board typoon is a real thing along with all the other cards you mentioned.
The best way to play DM would honestly be to play White Forest with IOC/Souls package.
"But that isn't Dark Magician!"
Okay, so play 1 vanilla to send off Souls and fuse with through the Muddy/Albion combo. I don't think anyone can say it's not a Dark Magician deck if it literally has Dark Magician in it.
@@djjjjjd oh you'd be surprised 😆
@kingmahde1 true 🤣 some people won't be happy unless you play 3 circle, 3 eternal soul, and 3 eye of Timaeus 😭
@@djjjjjd so true
Ive posted decks with 21 Dm specific cards in the main deck and had people in the comments say it's not a dm deck.. taught me we should play however we please.
Best of luck at the YCS! Routing for you !
The game is in such an odd place in regards to DM, in an otherwise healthy format.
Feels like so many things are viable, but are bad into the current format.
It’s gona be a lot of work trying to figure out a way to put DM in a “comfy” spot.
@@MatchieYGO ye I'm struggling to find what I really like
Absolutely brilliant video mate, love the music endings.
Idk if crossrose dragon is available in tcg but its a consideration with verte or another plant to get to rose dragon synchros while allowing you to summon with souls and spirit of eyes of blue
Maybe you could use a Regulus combo, because you can make a rank 4 with the toys.
Not a bad idea! Can search it with the Gadget Rank 4 and then link it away, banish it to summon Regulus.
You are cookin sir!
I cant imagine running dark magician without toy box.
I do think toy box is the best, I like it with cartesia/quem
Realistically, you need 15 handtraps at a minimum, this isn't a DM issue, its the format.
You'll also want going second tools like Talents. Big board breakers like Nib are still decent. Bystials are decent and have some synergy with the deck during this format as well.
I'm skeptical of Maximus, Ryzeal would love to have certain XYZs in the grave for Twins. I'm very iffy on Dogmatika in general, maybe a punishment splash but even there you're also committing main deck space to a bricky Shadoll Trap.
You also probably do not need the apprentice girl, and I could even see outright cutting DMG. Yes it hurts the potential draw power, but consistency is key this format. Part of me even wants to cut down to just 1 DM but I know in a grindier situation, you want 2. Although, he still just not the win-con.
Matchie and I have been bouncing white forest dm ideas back and forth, personally I think white forest is the way to go for dm at the current time brother, will send you some stuff on pms x
@@JamTheLad oooo 👀
Make DM great again!
I used DM dragon knight, eternal soul and imperial iron wall against a Maliss deck. They went to next game.
I'm testing this list:
Monsters
1 Dark Magician
1 Dark Magician
1 Red-Eyes Black Dragon
1 Red-Eyes Black Dragon
1 Timaeus the United Dragon
1 Dogmatika Fleurdelis, the Knighted
1 Apprentice Illusion Magician
1 Dark Magician Girl
1 Red-Eyes Black Meteor Dragon
1 Blazing Cartesia, the Virtuous
1 Dogmatika Ecclesia, the Virtuous
1 Toy Soldier
1 Toy Tank
1 Magician's Rod
2 Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring
2 Droll & Lock Bird
3 Magicians' Souls
3 Illusion of Chaos
Spells
2 Nadir Servant
1 Preparation of Rites
3 Red-Eyes Fusion
3 Red-Eyes Insight
1 Terraforming
1 Called by the Grave
2 Crossout Designator
1 Secrets of Dark Magic
2 Soul Servant
1 Dark Magical Circle
3 Toy Box
2 Secret Village of the Spellcasters
Traps
2 Infinite Impermanence
1 Eternal Soul
1 Shaddoll Schism
Extra
1 Dark Magician the Dragon Knight
1 Master of Chaos
2 Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon
1 The Dark Magicians
1 El Shaddoll Apkallone
1 Garura, Wings of Resonant Life
1 El Shaddoll Winda
1 Chaos Angel
1 Super Starslayer TY-PHON - Sky Crisis
1 Underworld Goddess of the Closed World
1 Accesscode Talker
1 Dharc the Dark Charmer, Gloomy
1 S:P Little Knight
1 Relinquished Anima
Side
3 Chaos Hunter
3 Artifact Lancea
1 Harpie's Feather Duster
3 Book of Eclipse
3 Dimensional Barrier
2 Evenly Matched
I think the White Forest/Azamina cards are pretty good, Toy Box is clutch and have very good synergy with the best DM cards (Souls), Kashitra just splashes with everything, I've had great success with it in DM and Sarc at least on MD. DMs versatility is its ability to work as a decent draw engine as well as giving access to things like Dragoon. I know DM players dont like to hear it but DM is really are secondary and supplementary engine in the Deck, at least till Konami blesses us with more modern support. Figuring out which of the current available decks and engines work with it is best.
Hello loza, Nadir servant at 3, Maximus, shadoll skisim, winda, apkalone, construct and Garura
Play talents at 2 and don't play circle or eternal soul. These 2 cards are trash against ryzeal
The deck should be dragoon and winda turbo
Maximus is terrible and sucks
sh1t deck
What I've found out is that magicians navigation can bring out Diabellze allowing you to get DM and her to the field that will then bring you a sinful spoils spell alongside having magicians navigation in the graveyard that can help next turn with its effect
Ultimate Slayer is good against ryzeal and other extra deck monsters plus works very good (hand to hand) with Dogmatika Maximus
Magikuriboh to not die and then kill turn 3 or make surprise otks
you can run a guiding quem and a blazing cartesia instead of the dogmatikas to give you easy access to the winda lock. still searchable off of toy soldier. just need to link a body off to bring the cartesia out and fuse them into granguignol. also chaos angel is easy to make with the toy tank bringing out the dark magician girl. i think cutting the circle,. eternal souls and rod down to 1 is better. less dark magician cards the better. probably dark magician at 1 is fine with that too. i think a second engine like kashiras or the diabel + azamina works well. and more hand traps or just board breakers. droplet works well with the toy box engine. rainbow bridge of salvation is also sendable from magicians souls to give you easy access to secret village.
The Question is, how do you want play DM? Control or Combo?
@@MetaMagia91 I want to win
@@LOZA-DM I think dm control is the best way to play this format.
1 Engine Toy Box, the goal is Winda Lock, because malls and Ryzal have Dark monster.
2 Primite engine the Goal is with 2 bricks Red eyes and DM go into Heratic Seal.
Summon in Opponent turn Albaz from deck to Fusion Summon. You could go in dragon with this Strategy.
How zu Think about this ?😃
I never tire of the the dragon night with eternal soul borad as a turn 1 .. and then get to dragon
Personally I like have chaos archfiend which can get summoned from DmG + TS or Palladium + Rod(just realized I met chaos angel) lol
@@erubadhronyoung6447 oh yeah chaos Angel is a must. I completely missed it in this video 😱
I just spent half an hour writing a very thought out comment on White Forest DM and Going Second REF Turbo, then accidentally refreshed my page and lost it all
Might try again later or just message on Discord lol
@@matmontani sorry to hear king. Thanks anyway and ye the discords a good place for a long comment 😎
The primite build is just better. Looping Drillbeam is a win condition on its own. Awesome stuff though! Good luck!
Diviner of the herald can be a good add in the deck, get to crystal wing with Tzolkin but I guess you already know that, adds consistency for sure. REF without anaconda is garbage, dragoon cannot win the game alone and often not even with some backrow. Toy box is amazing with droplet even more, for the rest... floodgates☠
I like toy box but I just think it's not wise to be running an engine requiring another card to function, while running it in a deck that runs vanilla bricks and other cards that also require other cards in order to then function 🤷♀️
I guess what i'm saying is brick using decks really wanna focus more on 1 card combo cards. toybox adds another layer of bricking I just don't think it's worth it
@@BlackRose-rp7kv yeah I get that!
Toy soldiers not too bad coz he is a decent normal summon but tank is a full on brick 😂
Well my advice is that you should follow the 70:30 ratio 28 cards(Engines+Techs/Extenders) and 12 cards non engine (Handtraps+Spells/Traps)
and salvation gotta go chief, play a 3rd soul servent instead and keep toy soldier, circle and ES at 1
I run triple dark hole dragon incase they out my dragoon
ive been playing with the fiendsmith and toy box engine in dm in a 50 card build. its quite nice since toy box can other than quem also search lacrima and the deck can easily at least get two bodies for fs combo in case u get interrupted
You have a magia?
nope :(
1dm 1 illusión 1 souls+ white forest azamina
Include Mahad
Mr Bubbles, but why?
@@LOZA-DMCause his soul is our eternal servant
what about "Black illusion'" trap card to protect your dragoon? you cant search it but with circle and upstarts you can draw it more often. with a turbo dragoon deck it would protect him from everything during the opponents turn. plus secret village out there too. am i cooking or nah?😄
REF @ 4? 😂
primite engine
I played fiendsmith DM in OCG.. in just 2 card combo can give 5 interruptions,
Magician's rod + Primite another beryl
End field
2 negate summon of
DDD Caesar,
1 masquerena,
DM, DMG dark burning magic,
And primite banish
Branded Magician
@@frankiephantom3000 sadly with the branded nerfs I don't think it's worth it